If the auto mechanic can figure this out, why is it so difficult for you? And why do you keep trying to avoid the question and change the subject?

Because he has no answer? Bat you have a better chance of talking the moon into flying to your dining room for dinner than getting Dino to answer that question.

Stupid quote of the day:

Because he approved it as Congressman.

He was a Senator.

Just for you Dino…Congress met today in a joint session…

Coming soon to a location near you!

Really?

The next you’ll be telling me Alabama attracted the Marshall Space Center and billions of federal dollars due to it’s being a mecca of higher education and that Alabama doesn’t get back 68% more in federal tax than it pays.

Predictable as you are stupid. Go read my answer from yesterday. I guess when you have a pea brain you can’t retain knowledge.

Dino, its actually pretty easy, if you have $0.00 and you spend $1.2 trillion then guess what, you have 1.2 trillion deficit.
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/100xx/doc10069/04-2009-MBR.pdf

The deficit for 2009 is projected to total $1.7 trillion if current laws and policies remain unchanged and $1.8 trillion if the President’s proposals for the current fiscal year are enacted.

What’s really happened is that the CBO is required to factor in the law and spending bills in place to see their effect. They then issue a number. You are right in one way Dino, Zero does not have a $1.3 trillion dollar deficit. However, like most of your ranting though you should have kept your mouth shut and quit while you were ahead because now I know that his true deficit is $1.7 if they spend what they have already passed and 1.8 trillion if all the spending they have proposed gets passed.

The deficit for 2009 is projected to total $1.7 trillion if current laws and policies remain unchanged and $1.8 trillion if the President’s proposals for the current fiscal year are enacted.

All that deficit is passed on spending bills pass by your Democrat majority congress. Have fun getting explaining that one.

Greg’s prediction..

Dino talks about the “30 million year conservative dominance” where idiot, rube conservatives pulled the wool over all those smart Dims for years and years and years.

He’ll use words like stem and shit stain and might even tell me I live in the third world. If that’s not crazy enough he’ll tell us about the trillions and gozillions of dollars that the third world has received from the federal government. Not realizing that his own third world slur kinda get thrown out with the bathwater.

So say we all,

Stem Greg in Alabama
ALL HAIL THE EXALTED ONE!

There’s no question that we’re in for some big deficits. What you failed to answer is how, when the deficit was estimated to be $1.3 trillion the day he took office, how that could possibly be from Obama’s supposed profligate spending.

Because he approved it as a Congressman. You know, the people constitutionally responsible for all spending? Its not like he’s some outsider that had nothing to do with it.

Well, this guy warned us of an impending Depression months before Obama got the keys to the car.

Here, watch:

President Bush Addresses Nation on Economic Crisis

Yeah, see, he was the guy who doubled the debt in 6 years. You remember that, right? Had a republican Congress, too.

It’s not 1993. Republicans haven’t been out of power for decades, only a little less than three years. People know what they did.

What is the spending for? To keep the economy from descending into Depression?

Nonsense! The spending is to buy votes for Democrats and pay off those who got the Democrats elected with funds the taxpayers and the government don’t have in the first place. Any serious question of the economy “descending into depression” was already addressed by Paulson and Bernanke before Obama ever took office. The rest is simply more Democrat bullshit. “Never let a good crisis go to waste!”

You people are a disaster for government.

I had to laugh at that one. Yeah, conservatives hate government and want to destroy it, right?

Democrats instituted most of these programs and services the government has no business being involved in and which cost more and more money as the population is conditioned to accept and believe that it should. This public take over of personal responsibility has diverted funds legitimately needed by the federal and state governments for the real responsibilities laid out for them in the constitution.

The federal government needs to be trimmed. Funds need to remain in the individual states which can then decide for themselves how and upon what to spend it.

The federal income tax and social security has given the feds too much power. Those who have the money and pay the bills make the rules. That’s a simple fact of life that has not changed in any time in history.

The spending is to buy votes for Democrats and pay off those who got the Democrats elected with funds the taxpayers and the government don’t have in the first place.

Pure, erroneous speculation.

What got democrats elected was republican corruption and malfeasance.

Yeah, conservatives hate government and want to destroy it, right?

Yes, we know your views Jvette. The country took the wrong road in the 1800s.

No matter what the truth is, and what the numbers reveal, little dinostem keeps singing his same old lying tune.
There is far more Dem corruption and malfeasance.
It is the Dems who are plundering the benefits created by fiscal conservatism.

This is as dishonest as blaming 9/11 entirely on Bush.

Rob is a hack, and that’s all he is good for, kicking shit around.

The spending is to buy votes for Democrats and pay off those who got the Democrats elected with funds the taxpayers and the government don’t have in the first place.

-Bat One

Pure, erroneous speculation.

-Dino

I don’t think so! After all, if I’m wrong, where are the all jobs that so-called “stimulus” spending was supposed to generate? Hmm???

Yes, we know your views Jvette. The country took the wrong road in the 1800s.

Actually it was more like the 1920′s and then made worse in the 60′s. Libs have no more excuses. They have all the power and can do whatever they want, which they will. Their chickens will come home to roost and the conservative grown up patriots in this country will have to try to undo the damage.

The charts show a decrease in the national debt during the 8 Clinton years.

That it isn’t attributed to the republican Congress is seen by the way they spent us $5 trillion into a deeper debt-hole when they gained control of the White House.

Think about the gravity of that for a moment. In 6 years the republicans created as much debt as the previous 230.

Truly an amazing feat of economic mismanagement.

Again, from the article:

Notice that while the public debt went down in each of those four years, the intergovernmental holdings went up each year by a far greater amount–and, in turn, the total national debt (which is public debt + intergovernmental holdings) went up. Therein lies the discrepancy.
When it is claimed that Clinton paid down the national debt, that is patently false–as can be seen, the national debt went up every single year. What Clinton did do was pay down the public debt–notice that the claimed surplus is relatively close to the decrease in the public debt for those years. But he paid down the public debt by borrowing far more money in the form of intergovernmental holdings (mostly Social Security).

In the old days we would call people like him functionally illiterate. He can read the numbers on his government check but has no idea what they actually mean.

While I normally subscribe to the old adage “Never assign to maliciousness what may be better described by stupidity”, in Dino’s case it IS maliciousness. Despite his desire to have his opponents publically executed and their families raped, tortured, starved and left desitute…or also killed, he has also admitted (in a few candid moments), that the facts don’t concern him. He will continue to lie and twist to get his narrative through, even though he knows it’s wrong.

Hell the graph even had little up and down arrows, color coded (green good, red bad) and commentary that explained it. No honest person could msunderstand it, but Dino isn’t honest, so he just repeats his lie, even when the truth is presented.

So then no defense of the incredibly bad job done by republicans when they held all the power?

Do you think doubling the debt, cutting taxes during wartime and standing by as things went to hell were good ways to govern?

Imagine if it was the year 2001 and a president Clinton and a democrat Congress had handed president bush a doubled debt, a crashing economy, raidly rising unemployment and a financial sector in tatters. You idiots would be building work camps for democrats.

Only arrogance allows you to gloss over the collosal failures of your party.

The rate of debt increase as a percentage of GDP slowed greatly under Clinton and exploded under bush.

This is becoming tediously irrelevant. What happened under either Clinton or President Bush has nothing to do with monstrous increase in deficit spending being orchestrated by Obama. And President Bush’s spending, castigated by every conservative here, certainly does Obama’s wholesale fiscal irresponsibility.

Continue spouting if you like. Heaven knows you don’t seem to have much else to say… and certainly nothing pertinent. But you ought to be aware that few of us pay much attention to your nonsense any more, and fewer still regard it as meaningful.

Once again, if you want me to agree to what you’ve said, you will have to demonstrate what revenues would have been had there been no Bush tax rate cuts. This really shouldn’t be all that difficult. Particularly if you actually know what you’re talking about.

There’s no question that we’re in for some big deficits. What you failed to answer is how, when the deficit was estimated to be $1.3 trillion the day he took office, how that could possibly be from Obama’s supposed profligate spending. Even considering the increase to $1.7 trillion can’t be laid on him as the downturn continues and receipts are still down. About all you can lay on him is $700 billion for stimulus. The 2009 budget isn’t his.

If you were honest, you would concede that the deficits are mostly due to the spending commitments put in place years ago and declines in revenues that started before he took office. Don’t make me post that video of bush on all the TV stations talking about the meltdown.

As for your weak attempt to blame the one year’s spending of a democratic Congress (under a republican president no less) for the $1.3 trillion deficit, please describe to me the huge increase in spending that the democrats initiated during 2008. What programs?

When you’re done with that, please explain how republicans managed to rack up $5 trillion in debt in just 6 years and where you were while that was taking place?

Wellll, Dino…. yes and no…

A Member of Congress (also known as Congressman, Congresswoman or Congressperson) is term used for a politician who is a member of a congress.[1] In countries with a parliament rather than a congress, the term Member of Parliament (MP) is often used instead.

In the United States, the term technically applies to members of both the upper house Senate and lower House of Representatives as “Congress” technically refers to both houses. In common practice, Member of Congress is used to refer to members of the House of Representatives as members of the Senate are referred to as “Senator.”

Greg was not in error…

Stupid quote of the day:

Because he approved it as Congressman.

He was a Senator.

Well gee, he could have saved us all a lot of time and money by just staying a Senator since a lone Senator has the power to spend trillions of dollars! Nevermind the other 534 people serving in Congress and the republican president. LOL

That had to be the weakest thing you’ve said yet.

You’re running out of excuses for your ignorance and dishonesty. It shows.

So you’re making the claim that ONE budget created by a republican president and slim majority democrat-control Congress was able to create $5 trillion in debt, a $1.3 trillion deficit and an economic meltdown of epic proportions?

WOW! What the HELL was in that budget? I mean sheeit, we coulda financed health care reform in that budget!

Try again simpletons.

This is where you get pissed and start telling each other how stupid I am and how I need to be ignored because what I say makes no sense.

This is where you get pissed and start telling each other how stupid I am and how I need to be ignored because what I say makes no sense.

You’re a day late and a dollar short, sport. We noticed how stupid you are before your comment count matched your age

There’s goon with absolutely nothing to say.

Go cash your government checks.

Your the one that doesn’t say anything worth while.

This is where you get pissed and start telling each other how stupid I am and how I need to be ignored because what I say makes no sense.

No, I started doing that when I provided a link that proved there was no budget surplus. You then claimed that my link showed that the debt went down, when it didn’t.

And every comment since has been another new lie to distract from getting shot down on all your old ones.

Lying STD.

Those cuts … have led to the deficits.

Swish,

Until you can actually PROVE what you say, all you’ve done is offered the same lame-assed assertion. I shouldn’t have to tell you what that’s worth.

If an auto mechanic who earns $40 per hour spends a week in jail for a DUI beef, he knows that he will have lost $1600 in wages. (If he is a union member, his union rep will do the math for him!)

You are asserting…again… that the Bush tax rate cuts caused a similar deficit at the US Treasury. And I am… again… challenging you to prove it by demonstrating how much higher tax revenues would have been had those tax rate cuts not been put in place. If the auto mechanic can figure this out, why is it so difficult for you? And why do you keep trying to avoid the question and change the subject?