Obama Flip Flops On Gay Marriage

• July 2, 2008

Obama before the election: States should decide gay marriage
Obama during the election: California’s attempt to decide gay marriage for itself is “divisive and discriminatory.”
Which, as far as I can tell, means Obama is a federalist only when states settle on policy he agrees with. Which isn’t really the sort of federal leader you want, is it? If you go to the polls and vote for some bill, do you really want a President Obama to come along after that vote and stick his nose in where it doesn’t belong?

Barack Obama told a San Francisco-based Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender group on Sunday that he opposes a California ballot measure that would ban same-sex marriage.
Prop 8 was added to the November ballot after the state supreme court ruled that a previous voter initiative barring gay marriage was unconstitutional.
“I am proud to join with and support the LGBT community in an effort to set our nation on a course that recognizes LGBT Americans with full equality under the law,” reads the Obama letter, available on the Alice B. Toklas LGBT Democratic Club Web site.
Obama said he supports “extending fully equal rights and benefits to same sex couples under both state and federal law,” and called the measure a “divisive and discriminatory” effort to amend California’s constitution.

Discussion question: Is it just me or does Obama’s never-ending carousel of policy positions make him more and more like John Kerry each day?

Tags: Asshats, Domestic Issues, Politics, The Loony Left

http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

Oddly enough, States have been attempting to decide the issue for themselves, referenda against the contradiction-in-terms Gay Marriage being passed by wide margins in every case.

The need for a Constitutional amendment protecting marriage is needed because in state after state, after the People have spoken, runaway judiciary take it upon themselves to write law from the bench and throw out State attempts at protecting normal marriage.

Make no mistake: this forced-gay-acceptance is being rammed down from above.

From corporate leadership –> down,
from governmental management -> down,
from school and university administrations -> down,
and from state supreme courts –> down.

Meanwhile the cheerleaders from Hollyweird and the Recording industry are pushing pro-gay crap on the rest of the country.

This is a top-down cram-down, not an upwelling of popular opinion.
todd

You cannot say it is a States Rights Issue and ignore and overrule the expressed will of the citizens of those states.

According to Rob, you can’t even root for your side to win on the state-wide ballot!
Neiman

Move_Zig:

The need for a Constitutional amendment protecting marriage is needed because in state after state, after the People have spoken, runaway judiciary take it upon themselves to write law from the bench and throw out State attempts at protecting normal marriage.

Great comments. It is not a states rights issue at all, because the will of the people in those states are being ignored by liberal, legislative minded justices in those states. You cannot say it is a States Rights Issue and ignore and overrule the expressed will of the citizens of those states.
sayanything-2407

Maybe Wright was right…..

It went down very simply. He’s a politician. I’m a pastor. We speak to two different audiences. And he says what he has to say as a politician. I say what I have to say as a pastor. Those are two different worlds. I do what I do, he does what politicians do. So what happened in Philadelphia where he had to respond to the soundbites, he responded as a politician.

The pastor also insisted Obama “didn’t denounce” him and “didn’t distance himself” from Wright’s controversial remarks, but “did what politicians do.”

Wright implied Obama still agrees with him by saying: “He had to distance himself, because he’s a politician, from what the media was saying I had said, which was [portrayed as] anti-American.”

“I said to Barack Obama last year, â€˜If you get elected, November the 5th I’m coming after you, because you’ll be representing a government whose policies grind under people,’ Wright said.

“He didn’t distance himself. He had to distance himself, because he’s a politician, from what the media was saying I had said, which was [portrayed as] anti-American. … He did, as I said, what politicians do.”

He did as politicians do…….
scott whitaker

Obama sais he supports states right to decide this question. That does not mean he doesn’t have an opinion on what states should do when faced with that question. He is merely weighing in on the issue, which does show leadership.
Brainmaggot

he will say whatever he thinks the mob, you what to hear his goal get there no matter what he has to say or do wake up kids and smell the backed up sewer.
todd

I think states should decide gay marriage issues for themselves–it’s not a federal issue. I think statewide bans of gay marriage are discriminatory and dismissive. I hope the ballot measures are defeated, and I would vote against them myself.

How stupid do you have to be to believe my last paragraph contains a contradiction? Because Rob does.
Neiman

Barak Obama (B.O.)

said he supports states right to decide this question. That does not mean he doesn’t have an opinion on what states should do when faced with that question. He is merely weighing in on the issue, which does show leadership.

Leadership, true leadership requires one having a clear position on such issues that the voter [follower] might be able to trust them to do what they say when given power. For B.O., like Billy Jeff, he triangulates every issue and that should scare the hell out of voters, because having taken every possible position on every possible issue, to vote for him is akin to picking a pig in a poke (A common colloquial expression in the English language, to “buy a pig in a poke,” is to make a risky purchase without carefully inspecting the item beforehand.)

The truth is, Obama is a card carrying, extreme Left Wing Liberal and as such, he cannot help but promote gay marriage while just as emphatically making a silly pretense at being a Christian. We have had a thread here at SA wherein Michelle Obama made it clear that B.O. will overturn “don’t ask, don’t tell” for the military, the “defense of marriage act,” and will use the bully pulpit of the White House to promote Gay Marriage and I assume more special hate crimes laws for homosexuals.

This is not leadership, this is national deception by a Prince of Liars, a Student Prince of Appeasers (To Jimmy Carter) and you refuse to open your eyes, because he is your Messiah to save America and the world, and his little lies need to be ignored, right?
Bill

Guys there is a great LGBT civil rights organization called the Empowering Spirits Foundation. They are very creative in how they approach this hot topic issue, in that they engage in service oriented activities in communities typically opposed to equal rights to foster thought and change for LGBT equality.

A friend of mine told me about it and I thought it was a great, positive approach to the issue. We had so much fun at the last event and it was great to give back to the community. Plus it was great to converse with others on the other side of the table in a way that wasn’t confrontational.

Anyway, this can be such a heated issue and I thought this was a unique approach.
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