Each Wind Turbine costs an estimated 3.5 million. It produces electricity that costs approx 8-9 cents a kilowat hr…or 3 times the cost of Natl Gas or 4 times the cost of coal fired power. Also..Wind Farms are subsidized at the rate of .2 cents a KWH by the govt. Maintenance and construction costs have skyrocketed the past 2 years. Boone Pickens just ordered 667 Turbines at a cost of 2 Billion.

The Tax Foundation is a right wing organization that didn't raise a peep while bush and the republicans were racking up $5 trillion in debt.

The sky is falling for you people ever since November 4th. Too bad you don't have the intellect to understand that conservative fiscal policies took us DOWN.

Good government implements policies that create incentives to take us towards PROGRESS like cap and trade will incent the development of alternative energies and what we need for a more prosperous future. Bad government, like that we experienced over much of the last 30 years, sits on its hands while the predators and jackals steal us blind, has no vision beyond next week and generally hastens the decline of the culture.

Bad government is the specialty of conservative savages.

Well to be fair to Obama, he probably meant AFTER he applies his mojo to the Postal Service.

Dumbo- Why do we need alternative energy, now?

Dino won't understand this until Obama's policies costs him his job at the dildo factory

How can you tell when Obama is lying?

His lips move.

He never tells the truth, about anything, ever.

Idiots voted for this muslim. We have a lots of idiots, and that is why we are stuck with a radical marxist that is not a cultural American.

Welcome to the Daley machine. You have to pay to play (or else.)

WHFF, you're not helping with the obsession with the idea of him as a Muslim. He's not a Muslim, and does not display a Muslim world view in his behaviors.

We disagree. Obama may not bang his head on the floor 5 times a day, but he was raised in the muslim culture. He has a muslim name. His father and stepfather were muslims. His mother obviously had a thing for muslim men and culture. He spent his childhood in muslim nations, going to muslim madras schools. He bowed down to a foreign potentate. He is deferential to Iran and it's mullah regime. He is a cultural muslim who also happens to have a lot of 1970's radicalism in his worldview.

He's just a classic 70s liberal who arrogantly thinks that government exists to modify the behaviors and nature of the people under it and that he is the man to do it.

Being a classic 1970's lib and being a cultural muslim are not mutually exclusive. Many of his arrogant declarations have the distinct smell of fatwa on them.

the American people were not properly informed of his background and formative influences by the media, even though that's supposed to be their job in this country.

That's why we have a lot of idiots. Anyone paying any attention on the internet had a chance to learn about Obama. The idiots are starstruck with his "rock star persona". Only idiots cast their vote without finding out what the candidate they are voting for is all about. It is the voter's responsiblity to be informed. We have too many idiots who shouldn't be allowed to vote.

He is not "culturally a Muslim" whatever the fuck that is supposed to mean. It's like saying that I'm culturally a Jew or you're culturally a Christian and hence predestined for certain things. Not true and you prove it ever single day you think for yourself, fries or coleslaw.

His childhood has no bearing on what he is now, which is the usual arrogant, egotistical, narcissistic leftist. He's not deferential to the Saudis and Iranians. You've got it all ass backwards. He thinks he and his are superior to them, that they are some inherently different bunch, as you keep assuming I might add, and incapable of being held to the growing and evolving international standards that mankind has prospered by of late, and whether anyone likes it or not those are the principles of western civilization.

It's not that westerners or white people or Christians have some inherent superiority. They don't. It's that the Greeks and the Romans, thanks to history being what it ended up being, had exposure to predecessor civilizations and time and prosperity to engage in philosophy based on what they'd accumulated for knowledge and happened to hit on some very good ideas regarding what humans are.

There's also good things to be found among the Muslims, the Buddhists and Hindus and many others, but what gave the foundation of modern society real traction was the Greeks and Romans.

Liberalism doesn't care about that. Liberals are by nature deeply insecure, deeply fearful, and the only thing they know is the empty temporariness of ego. So they game everything to be about them, to hide what they fear and distract them from it, to get people to look to them for solutions and never question, because if they didn't then others might realize they are really losers and they can't face that possibility so they redouble their efforts endlessly.

Liberalism doesn't work, never has, and never will because it is inimical to and contemptuous of humanity and things also in humanity like trust, faith and hope. Going out and ignoring proof or certitude purposely and choosing a belief of how things will be and simply working towards that is frightening to them and they don't know how and as years pile up they less and less have any real chance of it short of something closer and more personal forcing a cathartic break and realignment of their world construction based on a new sense of their self.

Obama isn't being deferential. He's being haughty. He's looking down his nose at these quaint people just as he does his fellow Americans and humans in general. He assumes he is better, feels better, loves better, judges better, knows better than all others. He deigns to let the Saudis have their sense of superiority but he all the time was the one feeling superior and thinking that the Saudi sense was just something he let them have.

Just as liberals have with racial and gender politics for years, he is doing with international politics. He's patting those other people on the head in whatever way he thinks will mollify them and give them a false sense of being in charge when he is really the one truly in charge. Liberals patronize everyone, foreigners are no different than their own countrymen in their view, just rubes to be played.

That's why liberals are always purposefully contrarian and always so backstabbing. They have to believe they are in charge and they came up with all the ideas and they have to get their way. It's always about them. Never selflessly about someone else.

Even the rank and file Obama worshippers are no different, all ready to take another step forward in the social ranks as soon as they can walk all over the fallen in front of them. It's all about them.

This has nothing to do with Islam and you're making conservatism look damn stupid with this constant talk with no proper rationale or reasoning to back it up. What I've just given you is not something I made up, it's merely a pastiche of years and years of psychological reviews of the left and has been in my experience entirely borne out. I'll trust that over baseless and pointless nonsense about religious determinism.

We are what we choose to be but we know not why we choose it and instead we make up pretty stories to make the not knowing seem less frightening when in the end, knowing was as easy as dying.

This has nothing to do with Islam…

Wrong again; the fascism of the left and islamofascism have a lot in common; they both subscribe to a totalitarian ruling elite, and both regard the general population as cattle to be herded for the benefit of the ruling elite. They both treat any divergence from their ideology as heresy, to be punished severely. They believe in an all powerful govt that owns and controls everything.
Saddam was the Hitler of the ME until we took him out. The relationship between ME fascism and Euro fascism is a long standing one.

Jimmy Carter's a secret Mooslim!

You're claiming he lived as a muslim in a muslim country as a child, with a muslim father? I think you got that wrong, eddie.

We had a guy like this where I used to live. Stand on the street corner and jive talk your ear off. After a while, everyone knew it was all lies so they even walked to the other side of the street to not have to walk near him.

When you grow up in the military junta of Indonesia, no wonder he thinks he was elected dictator. Americans aren't Kenyans. And Obama isn't the ruler he thinks he is.

His childhood has no bearing on what he is now,

This is a patently absurd statement. It is equivalent to saying a building has nothing to do with its foundation.

Obama grew up muslim, and later sat in a black marxist theology church. He's no Christian, but a poseur who knows he couldn't have been elected without appearing to be Christian.

Suite, I'll make a prediction right now. If Obama gets a second term, shortly afterward he will declare that he has decided to "convert" to Islam. He'll set another historical first, to be the first muslim president of the USA.

You need to wake up, dude.

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And a lot of blahblahblah, blah blah blahblah from dinothefakehomo.

No no… I think all evidence points that not only is Barack Obama not a Muslim, but also that Dino IS gay.

I mean, he's far from closeted.

You're claiming he lived as a muslim in a muslim country as a child, with a muslim father? I think you got that wrong, eddie.

He lived with his stepfather (there's a huge difference), a step father who's friends and family record him being more of a "free thinker" than a devout Muslim, for four years.

I'm claiming Obama, much like a multitude of other Executive Democrats has ties to Saudi Arabia, has brought condemnation on Israel, and has "meddled" in their affairs. Being a "secret Muslim" has nothing to do with his alignment in Middle-Eastern affairs.

He spent time in a Catholic primary school, and quite a few Roman Catholics voted for him… coincidence? You tell me. I think we've got ourselves a closet papist boys! Sound the alarm! Fetch the constable!

Please.

Chicago has more influence on his foreign affairs than Jakarta.

"SQUAAAAWWWK!"

Man! That last guy does a spot on Dino impression! Heh.

OK, I get it. You are saying, along with the entire Muslim World, the Barack Hussein Obama is not only gay, he is Muslim AND gay. OK. That is what his Grandmother said, and he threw her dying ass into a substandard nursing home so she would die.

Whats you point?

I gotta laugh at the Obama shep..Obama is sticking their votes right up their asses! The poor will pay more for cap & trade than anyone..and Obama meant it that way.

Actually, dj, the post I linked to is about a direct rebuttal of Fact Check's analysis. They're merely looking at the direct cost of cap and trade, and not the secondary impact of goods and services getting more expensive.

Trying reading the post again. I know it has some big words in it, but use a dictionary.

This is important.

Rob,

You really need a better class of trolls around here. Can't you find some who at least read the whole article?

Hey DIno

Your 5 trillion deficit number is way off base. You need to get your facts straight before you post. The deficit in the US when Bush left office was 800 billion +. Just last week it was announced that the first time in history the US went 1 trillion in debt…..and that will be closer to 15-20 trillion by the time Obabam leaves office