Obama Administration Backpeddling On Mammogram Pronouncement

After taking office, Obama established a task force to study how to health care more efficient, and thus cheaper, for we Americans. On Monday I posted on one of the panels findings. Namely, that women should refrain from self-testing for breast cancer at home and delay routine mammograms until their fifties. Both findings running contrary to long-standing recommendations from organizations like the American Cancer Society.
Today Obama’s Health Secretary, Katherine Sebelius, is doing damage control telling Americans to ignore the findings of this panel.

WASHINGTON – Women should continue getting regular mammograms starting at age 40, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said Wednesday, moving to douse confusion caused by a task-force recommendation two days earlier.
Sebelius issued her statement following a government panel’s recommendation on Monday, that said most women don’t need mammograms in their 40s and should get one every two years starting at 50.
That recommendation was a break with the American Cancer Society’s long-standing position that women should get screening mammograms starting at age 40.
The task force does “not set federal policy and they don’t determine what services are covered by the federal government,” Sebelius said. …
“The task force has presented some new evidence for consideration but our policies remain unchanged,” she said. “Indeed, I would be very surprised if any private insurance company changed its mammography coverage decisions as a result of this action.”

The problem, of course, isn’t that this task force’s recommendations for breast cancer screening were to immediately become policy. The reason people are up in arms over this is because of what it portends for government-controlled health care.
Remember that the health care bill that passed in the House would require that all Americans and employers choose their health insurance policies through a government health care exchange that includes only plans approved by the government. Meaning that if some government task force or panel or bureaucrat determines that covering mammograms for women in their thirties is unnecessary, or covering screenings that are initiated by a woman detecting a lump in an at-home self exam, then they won’t be covered.
And we’ll all have to accept that. Because the government will control our health insurance for us.
Now, I realize that there are differing opinions on when breast cancer screenings should begin in earnest. There are similar differing opinions about all sorts of medical issues. Meaning that government attempts to control our health care and health insurance coverage for our own good might not just put us in danger, but will also undoubtedly create resentment among segments of the public who might not agree with the level of coverage the government determines is adequate.
That’s why the key to health care reform isn’t more government control. It’s choice.

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  • http://Array sayanything-12

    Mike Adamson:

    Actually it’s been running since 1984 as I poke around a little more. I’m curious why you think that the Obama Administration commissioned this study and why you think the motive is health care savings rather than updating the previous set of recommendations based on new evidence. The process for determining study topics seems reasonably clear and would likely preclude an Obama reference.

    Actually the White House website itself says they tasked this group to study this question in March.

    I can guarantee you nobody in the field would appoint such a hackneyed group to study such an important question. Not a single oncologist on the board? You have got to be frucking kidding me!?

  • sayanything-45

    That’s what I figured…no source. You guys are good at messaging though so hats off to you in that respect.

  • sayanything-43

    I”ve heard of plenty of women in their 40′s dying of boob cancer. I’m sure even more have been cured.

    I’m sure lots of these women still have children at home.

    Way to go Dumbama. Trying to cheap out and kill moms. Just how evil can they get?

  • sayanything-12

    Bat One, I don’t think it’s exactly hidden in the Pelosi bill. This is exactly how they will decide what services we’d be eligible for and which we wouldn’t.

    Want to know a secret guys?

    There wasn’t a single oncologist on the board that made these ridiculous recommendations. Not one.

  • sayanything-2

    Wow, what a string of lies and sh*t spew so early on a Monday morning. You must be so proud of your talking points email, to share it with everybody!

    So, tell us, oh Svengali, how did W Bush load all his people on this task force AFTER Barri was in office? Or is it that W Bush created this task force, back in the ’80s? Enlighten us.

  • sayanything-203

    I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if there is a provision buried deep in the Obama-Pelosi health care “reform” bill which stipulates, however backhandedly, that “advisory” panels just like this will ultimately determine which procedures such as mammograms will be covered, how often, at what age brackets, and more importantly, which and when and how often they will NOT be covered or reimbursed under Medicare/Nationalized Healthcare.

  • sayanything-2

    And if it is not Barri’s dog pissing on the carpet why is Barri&ThePosse scrambling to clean it up?

  • sayanything-2

    Barri placed people on the Task Force, as each President has. No twirl&spin some more, it is quite entertaining.

  • sayanything-2

    Poor little spark. You are the only one here spewing lies and “propaganda” and you are simply too stupid to figure out we are laughing at you. Just as your “students” are.

  • Lioncourt

    So if you’re poor, you don’t get mammograms, and get treated when the cancer becomes symptomatic. At which point it is usually incurable.

    ARe the poor uninsured getting mammograms now or are they being treated when it becomes symptomatic?

  • sayanything-2

    Keep screeching, we will keep laughing. And dumping your comment adds to the hilarity!

  • sayanything-45

    Rob

    “After taking office, Obama established a task force to study how to health care more efficient, and thus cheaper, for we Americans. On Monday I posted on one of the panels findings. ”

    Obama didn’t appoint this task force…it’s been running since 1999. That doesn’t make much difference in terms of the substance of the recommendations but it does demonstrate how pundits bend the truth to suit their argument.

  • sayanything-2

    Ah, sad little leftard, got your teeth kicked in again. Now screech&wail for us, thats funny. And complain some more.

  • lock’em’up

    They are clarifying because you chicken littles acted like this board was the surgeon general or the President. So silly.

  • sayanything-2

    Prove Barri did not place people on that Task Force, or shut your f&cking mouth, a$$hole.

  • AMAM1976

    Want to know another secret: The Bush Administration appointed these experts.. NOT Obama.

  • sayanything-2

    Sorry, Mike, the Obama Admin put this particular group of people ON that task force, it is not a set, permanent group of people. spark? These people get their way and your girl will be one of the millions of people to suffer for it. Why are you so gleefully happy about that?

  • halfacarafe

    The “death panels” have already passed and been funded in the Stimulus Bill in February.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_mccaughey&sid=aLzfDxfbwhzs

  • sayanything-12

    Lioncourt:

    ARe the poor uninsured getting mammograms now or are they being treated when it becomes symptomatic?

    So if we provide medical care for them, we are to deny them mammograms?

    That’s what passes for logic these days?

    I guess you missed the part where this could be adopted as part of the public option, right?

  • sayanything-12

    (Placed in correct thread. Sorry about that.)

    Here’s criticism from an expert in the field. Thought it was worth sharing. There are literally hundreds of firestorms in the diagnostic profession over this blooper of a study.

    But no problem with Mike and Sparkie defending it, shills for centralized, government wipes our a$$ for us that they are.

    “Mammography is not a perfect test, but it has unquestionably been shown to save lives—including in women aged 40 to 49,” said Dr. Carol H. Lee, chair of the ACR’s Breast Imaging Commission. “If Medicare and private insurers adopt these incredibly flawed USPSTF recommendations as a rationale for refusing women coverage of these life-saving exams, it could have deadly effects for American women.”

    Since regular mammography screening began in 1990, the mortality rate from breast cancer, which had remained unchanged for the preceding 50 years, dropped by 30%, ACR and SBI said.

    Don’t worry though. The White House assures us only poor women will be affected by this decision.

  • sayanything-2

    Your inferiority.

  • sayanything-2

    I would feel bad for you, but that would be a waste of time, you revel in your inferiority.

  • sayanything-45

    Your inferiority.

    Just seemed like the thing to say.

    The Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality (AHRQ) solicits nominations for members of the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force (USPSTF) through an open process announced in the Federal Register, an official Government publication for notices from Federal agencies and organizations. Anyone can nominate a candidate for the Task Force. Self-nominations are also accepted. Members of the Task Force are selected based on recognized expertise in prevention, evidence-based medicine, and primary care.

    http://info.ahrq.gov/cgi-bin/ahrq.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=9&p_created=1151080977&p_sid=w1qu3mNj&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_srch=1&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NDUsNDUmcF9wcm9kcz0mcF9jYXRzPTE2LDUmcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0yLjUmcF9wYWdlPTE!&p_li=&p_topview=1

    I’d appreciate a link to information indicating that this procedure wasn’t followed this time.

  • sayanything-2

    Funny, oncology specialists from all over America are denouncing this as total crap, and yet leftards are defending it and going down in flames. That political ideology is more important to them than the lives of their mothers, sisters and daughters. Really sad.

  • sayanything-12

    And Mike… they themselves say one of the tasks of the group was to identify “effective clinical preventive services”.

    As to “new evidence”. Way to be a shill for political hacks, man.

    Their evidence is a computer model that was not well informed by data. And their conclusions were complete BS.

  • sayanything-12

    Rob it has to get tiring that every time somebody like Mike twists your words (I don’t think you ever said anything about how long that organization has existed, which is all he’s established. There is nothing in his chain of arguments that points to how long this particular group of hacks have worked together) that all the libs stand up and crow about you being a liar.

    The sad fact is, you are essentially correct on the facts as I know them.

    Of course this group met to study a question at the behest of the White House.

    Of course it was related to “effective medical care” (read cut out wasteful treatment protocols, aka “cut costs”).

    Of course it was poorly done, the same people who brought us crash-and-burn Stimulus 1.0 brought us this travesty.

    And of course it demonstrate the folly of letting the government decide important decisions for us like this.

    Truthfully, I don’t see too much daylight between what I just said and your original remarks.

    And all Mike wants to do is shill for a$$holes who, if their advice were followed, would lead to the needless deaths of thousands of women. Nice job, Mike. Nice job.

  • AMAM1976

    And thank you for proving you don’t know either.

  • sayanything-4625

    This panel was APPOINTED by the BUSH ADMINISTRATION.

    http://info.ahrq.gov/cgi-bin/ahrq.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=9&p_created=1151080977&p_sid=kYuH-gOj&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_srch=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD0zNDksMzQ5JnBfcHJvZHM9JnBfY2F0cz0mcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MQ!!&p_li=&p_topview=1

    This Panel was first formed in 1984. Bush wasn’t President then. You are wrong.

    How do people get to be on the panel?

    The Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality (AHRQ) solicits nominations for members of the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force (USPSTF) through an open process announced in the Federal Register, an official Government publication for notices from Federal agencies and organizations. Anyone can nominate a candidate for the Task Force. Self-nominations are also accepted. Members of the Task Force are selected based on recognized expertise in prevention, evidence-based medicine, and primary care.

    Bush doesn’t appoint anyone on the panel. You can nominate yourself. You’re wrong again. I’m sensing a pattern here.

    this is a “independent task force” that makes recommendations

    Not if we pass the health care bill. Reality sucks for you!

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mammography-recommendations-form-government-rationing-critics/story?id=9150471&page=2

    Yet, according to language in the current Senate health care reform bill under consideration, only services rated an “A” or “B” by the USPSTF would be covered by a group health plan and health insurance issuers. Under the new recommendations, mammography for women in their 40s is rated a “C.”

    So you’ve been wrong three times now. Why should I listen to you? That’s right, I shouldn’t because you’re a chattering monkey that know’s nothing and is proud of that fact. Begone!

  • sayanything-2

    I have been trying to get someone to develop an electronic Claymore. That would clear all the ID thief leftards off the intertubes!

  • AMAM1976

    Actually Vlad – those organizations did complain about the Bush era appointees recommendations.. They did complain – and have openly done so.. you just live a hate filled bubble so you don’t see or read about anything that you don’t agree with.

  • sayanything-2

    spark, your girl will be a direct recipient of the cut in healthcare. Tell us why you are so f*cking happy about that.

  • sayanything-2

    “Maybe this group is just employed to provide ideas regardless of their usefulness. As harmless as useless ideas are, they eat up a lot of time which could otherwise have been spent being productive.”

    Dingdingdingding!!!!!! You win the cupie doll! That is exactly what this sort of things are for.

  • sayanything-2

    Getting them now, lyingcourt, as you full well know. All on the tax payers dime.

  • sayanything-7775

    The task force does “not set federal policy and they don’t determine what services are covered by the federal government,” Sebelius said. “The task force has presented some new evidence for consideration but our policies remain unchanged,” she said.

    The task force has presented some new evidence for consideration…. Then I guess that this recommendation is still being considered for possible policy? Aside from the given bureaucratic inefficiencies, why is something being “considered” if there is no way it will be used?

    Which brings me to question the composition of this “task-force”. Did Obama pick them willy-nilly or did he search for the best and the brightest? Healthcare reform is very important for Obama, so I can only assume that he put some effort into finding the best “experts”. And if these people are the “experts”, then they would ultimately find their way into the policy decisions of Nationalized Healthcare.

    Maybe this group is just employed to provide ideas regardless of their usefulness. As harmless as useless ideas are, they eat up a lot of time which could otherwise have been spent being productive.

  • sayanything-203

    From that picture of HHS Secretary Sibelius, I’d say perhaps she should be the one asking about Nancy Pelosi’s plastic surgeon.

  • sayanything-19213

    HEY, DON’T MESS WITH WOMEN “CHEECHIES”, UNLESS THEY ALLOW IT. NOT EVEN YOU,
    MISTER PRESIDENT!

  • lock’em’up

    Recommendations aren’t laws or even policy, unless the republican police state that you all wish for comes true.

  • sayanything-2

    This was a limited hangout, just to gauge the reaction from the public. The public started kicking their teeth in, so they are scrambling to cover their a$$.

    lock-m-out? The Surgeon General is not in charge of anything but their office, and the secretarial staff runs that.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Most nearly everyone has access to health plans where they pay for a yearly
    boob check once they reach 40.

    Some don’t, generally because of bad decisions on their part.

    So the logic of the leftists is that nobody should be deprived of what other
    people work to get.

  • sayanything-12

    And lock’em up? The White House itself says it plans to use these recommendations for Medicare and Medicaid (though they lace it with a lot of blathering rhetoric reminiscent of Lock’em up):

    the recommendations of this task force would actually be used to provide access to effective preventive services for free or at low-cost.

    So if you’re poor, you don’t get mammograms, and get treated when the cancer becomes symptomatic. At which point it is usually incurable.

    That makes me feel so much better.

  • sayanything-12

    lock’em up:

    Recommendations aren’t laws or even policy, unless the republican police state that you all wish for comes true.

    Thanks for demonstrating that you don’t understand how new Medicare policies get implemented, you moronic idiot. Must suck to have a FAIL brain.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    It seems to me that some of those heartless insurance companies could change
    their standards for what they pay for based upon Obama’s recommendation to
    not do boob tests.

    When they get sued they can reasonably claim that they were following the
    official recommendations.

    Now in this case I think they save enough by actually treating the cancer
    right away than waiting for the cancers to advance.

  • sayanything-12

    Another carefully parsed sentence in the White House missive: Their recommendations would be used in health reform to identify effective clinical preventive services.

    What’s left to question? This would be used for new patients (not existing ones), it would affect the public health option, and since not treating people lowers the cost, it would either put the public option at a competitive advantage or simply forcing private insurers to follow suit.

    This is as plain as day.

    Just as people like lock’em up don’t have the brains of a squid.

  • sayanything-2

    And this will affect poor, minority women far more than rich, liberal White women. Imagine that.

  • sayanything-45

    Actually it’s been running since 1984 as I poke around a little more. I’m curious why you think that the Obama Administration commissioned this study and why you think the motive is health care savings rather than updating the previous set of recommendations based on new evidence. The process for determining study topics seems reasonably clear and would likely preclude an Obama reference.

    http://info.ahrq.gov/cgi-bin/ahrq.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=12&p_created=1151081206&p_sid=wc9UbkNj&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_srch=1&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NDUsNDUmcF9wcm9kcz0mcF9jYXRzPTE2LDUmcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0yLjUmcF9wYWdlPTI!&p_li=&p_topview=1

  • AMAM1976

    Read above – this is a “independent task force” that makes recommendations – then the Obama Admin said – we are not going to listen to the task force.. we think they are wrong..nothing will change

  • sayanything-342

    I have lost track of Obama administration gaffs. Lately it seems like there are at least one or two a week. When he took office I said he would turn out to be a joke but I had no idea it would just keep going and going and going…

  • sayanything-9974

    Early detection is critical for all cancers – This is a sad example of where health care will be rationed and reduced. This Ponzi scheme will work better (for the Government) when people have shorter life spans. I am sure this is only the start of the cost saving initiatives they will come up with. Putting lipstick on this pig doesn’t make it more attractive. Kind of like the Biggest Government Scam of all time – Social Security. The average life expectancy was below the age to draw money. An actuary’s wet dream – Insurance companies would not be allowed to defraud the public like that – But FDR and the Dems pulled it off. The Dem/Libs always have some scheme to get into the wallets of the average citizen.

  • sayanything-12

    MikeAdamson:

    Obama didn’t appoint this task force…it’s been running since 1999.

    That’s true, but this particular task was appointed to them by the Obama administration, which is central to Rob’s comment, rather than when it came into existence.

    The motives are good enough (saving the bankrupt medicare system), but the implementation is the ham-handed fumbling typical of the Obama administration.

  • sayanything-45

    I hate to say you’re wrong Rob but it doesn’t make much sense given that the Task Force gave recommendations on this topic in 2002 and aims to review its recommendations every 5 years. Do you have a source you can point me to?

  • AMAM1976

    This panel was APPOINTED by the BUSH ADMINISTRATION. There was no backpeddling because the current administration did not change anything. This organization may be funded by the government – but with all the “experts” being bush appointees – I wouldn’t doubt they released this to hurt any health care reform. Be afraid of how committed your “conservative” allies are to NOT changing anything.. that is more frightening than change…

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    I’m not lying, Sparkie.

    Truth be told, I’m usually pretty hit and miss on these threads. I don’t follow them all because I write all the posts. And morons like you are always attacking me personally in every thread. And I don’t have the time, or even the interest (even your hilarious thrashing about gets boring after a while), to respond to it all.

    So sometimes I overlook legitimate opportunities to debate with honest critics like Mike.

    But I wasn’t lying here. Members of this task force are nominated as Mike pointed out. But they’re appointed by the government to serve the government’s agenda.

    Period.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    They are clarifying because you chicken littles acted like this board was the surgeon general or the President. So silly.

    They were a Presidential task force assigned by the President to make recommendations about insurance coverage.

    With the government angling to take over health care, this is scary stuff.

  • sayanything-18467

    Your inferiority.

  • sayanything-7805

    I detected a few ‘cancers’ on this BLOG early. Can we radiate them huh can we?!

  • sayanything-81

    Kitty
    Feel free to contribute something other than taunting one of these days, asshat. What grounds that superiority complex of yours?

  • sayanything-81

    F**K THIS F**KING PURITAN COMMENT CENSOR. THE COMMENT THAT JUST DISAPPEARED TOOK ME FIVE F**KING MINUTES.

  • sayanything-7743

    You think Republicans want a police state? It the Dummycrats who want to:

    Put you in jail or fine you for not having health insurance.

    Install thermostats in your house so they can control the temperature in your home.

    Dictate the color of cars you can buy, how big a TV you can have, what type of health insurance you can buy.

    Fine you for building or making improvements to your property with your own money without the approval of the local zoning and building departments.

    Throw your butt in jail if you touch or disturb wetlands on your own property.

    Ram rod legislation such as conservancy or nature district that regulate and impact what you can do with your property.

    Regulate what food you can eat and the transfat content thereof.

    Tell parents how to raise their children, force schools to teach that homosexuality and other perversions are normal, etc.

    Force the Boy Scouts to lower their standards and allow gays as leaders.

    Force people to join labor unions and take away workers right to a secret ballot when deciding union policies.

    Force PC standards on the rest of society that results in the death of US soldiers at Fort Hood.

    I could go on and on, but it is you left wing nutters who want to use the power of the state to force their views and life style on others, and to force free people into collections and communes. Republicans I know want people to be free to pursue their dreams and go as far as their brains, abilities, ambitions and god given talents will allow.

  • sayanything-81

    Glad to be of service.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    And what happens if the government decides the panel isn’t wrong?

    That’s the point. I don’t want to be dependent on the government and a panel of experts to determine what my health care will be.

  • sayanything-81

    ROb has nothing to say now. Whatever. My satire has more of a grasp on reality than Rob’s attempts at fact presentation.

    What a pathetic little propgit liar.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Mike, you’ve linked to how the task for members are nominated. But they’re appointed by the federal government.

    And they’re funded by the federal government.

    And, true, they issued a report on this particular issue five years ago. Per their website, they review all their recommendations every five years.

    But five years ago they weren’t telling women to refrain from self-exams. They weren’t telling women to get fewer mammograms. Now, suddenly, they are.

    And what has changed from five years ago? Democrats have a majortiy in Congress. Obama has the White House. And both Obama and his fellow Demcorats are pushing government health care under the guise of making health care more affordable.

    And though they won’t admit it, the only way for them to do that is health care rationing. Which is what this panel is.

    A rationing panel. Government experts empowered to dictate to us one-size-fits-all care options.

    Now, I’m not surprised that you’re not seeing a problem here. After all, you seem to enjoy being dependent on the government. I, on the other hand, have no interest in being forced to buy my health coverage through the government and only have it cover what the government decides it should cover.

  • sayanything-5565

    The beginning of the death panels, and where are all the liberal groups allegedly representing all women complaining – NARAL, National Organization of Women, Planned Parenthood, ACORN, SEIU, Code Pink, Democrat party? Silent – I guess increased breast cancers are worth the money saved for Medicaid and to make Obamacare look good – as well as socialism. And to the great thinkers on the left – why are cost/benefit analyses good for mammograms, but not for environmental programs, social welfare programs, etc. ad nauseum? Think Dan Quayle if it’s not too hard…..

  • sayanything-81

    I can see the headlines tomorrow: “Rob Port Backpeddling On Death Panel Pronouncement”

    Oh wait. Rob doesn’t care about the truth, just making propaganda that tugs the emotional hate-strings of the masses.

  • sayanything-81

    Mike
    Thank you for the non-propagandized information about this “death panel” (as Rob called it on Monday). Looks like my satirical scenario about Rob’s headline creation methods ( http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/memo_pretty_new_namememe_for_gov_doggy_lipstick/ ) was not far from the mark.

    1984? Where have I heard of that year before? LOL.

    I guess that makes it Raygun’s “death panel”.

  • sayanything-81

    BTW Mike,
    I *don’t hate* to say that Rob is wrong, so if you are ever feeling sheepish, just let me know.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Mike it was a task force established by the obama administration and the presence of lots of “medical economists” in the panel but not a single oncologist sort of makes their goal pretty clear.

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