Obama Lies About Increasing Oil Production On Federal Land

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During tonight’s debate between Mitt Romney and President Barack Obama there was a serious bone of contention between the two candidates over domestic oil production in response to a question about gas prices. Obama said domestic oil production is up, even over Bush-era production, but Romney said it’s actually down on federal lands where the president’s policies have the most impact.

Obama accused Romney of not telling the truth, but the Republican is right. Under Obama oil production on federal hit a nine-year low, declining 40% over the level 10 years ago.

Permitting on federal land takes an atrociously long time under Obama as well.

Update: Per the comments, the chart above is for total fossil fuels and not oil production on federal lands specifically. That’s a fair point, but it still doesn’t make Obama right. Here’s oil and gas production on federal lands compared to production in ND:

And permitting has been the real problem under Obama:

Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • Roy_Bean

    I think Candy Crowley is on Obama’s payroll. It looks like she is one of the people he put to work.

    • $8194357

      Without the commie?
      Pravda wouldn’t be needed, huh.

  • kevindf

    Obama also wants college graduates to work in factories.

    • Hal625

      Yea, that was puzzling. College educated guy asks for job advise and Obama tells him he is working to bring manufacturing jobs back from China. It seemed like that was the only talking point he could remember without his teleprompter.

      • $8194357

        What can a man with a liberal arts degree expect these days?

      • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

        At least he didn’t say he has binders full of jobs available for the kid, as soon as he could implement affirmative action on his behalf, like Romney had.

        • Hal625

          Desperate attack that is meaningless.

    • http://Sayanythingblog.com The Whistler

      The moderator apparently wants Americans to do the assembly jobs for Apple. You know the jobs that the factory has to install safety nets to keep it’s workers from jumping off of the building.

      Thanks Candy.

  • mikemc1970

    Here’s my shocked face :0

  • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

    Summary of Obama’s debate theme: “Don’t believe your lying eyes.”

    • $8194357

      Regan must of had Barrys ideologies in mind when he said:
      “I’m from the government and I’m here to help.”

      • Bubba

        Must *have.

    • Rob Portly

      You won’t hear about this in the media, but Rob Port’s sole aspiration
      is apparently to divert attention from his unprovoked aggression.
      First, the misinformation: he suggests that his treacheries provide a
      liberating insight into life, the universe, and everything. Where the
      heck did he come up with that? I apologize if my answer is perceived as
      ignotum per ignotius, but what I’m about to say can’t be
      understood unless one realizes that Rob’s satraps are too lazy to
      ratchet up our level of understanding. They just want to sit back,
      fasten their mouths on the public teats, and casually forget that Rob
      has secretly been making incorrect leaps of logic. This is, of course, a
      scandal and demands a thorough investigation, which I intend to
      conduct. I expect to find that if Rob isn’t covinous, I don’t know who
      is. Before you read this letter, you might have thought that we have
      too much freedom. Now you know that my task—our task—is to tackle the
      multinational death machine that Rob Port is currently constructing

      • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

        For God’s sake! Take your meds, and quickly!

        • $8194357

          Take two .38’s and call the doctor in the morning..

          • two_amber_lamps

            doctor mortician

            TWO .38’s? Lol… probably a good idea. Leftist would probably f-up his own suicide.

          • $8194357

            First the dry run..
            Then the foul up…
            They can’t do anything right.

        • two_amber_lamps

          Yup…. Ol’ Krushednutz goes beyond just recalcitrant about taking his meds… he’s flat-out crack-addled!

      • Thresherman

        Talk about posting long and saying nothing. Yet addressed not a single thing about Obama clearly lying about oil production on federal lands.

      • WOOF

        satraps– a subordinate official : henchman covinous Deceitful; collusive; fraudulent; dishonest. I’m lovin it,

      • Elizabeth K

        Huh?

      • mickey_moussaoui

        Sybil “hannitized” strikes again. How many personalities do you have now?

        “Now you know that my task—our task”………one flew over the coo coo nest bat shit crazy Freudian slip there Handiwipe

      • mickey_moussaoui

        Sybil “hannitized” strikes again. How many personalities do you have now?
        “Now you know that my task—our task”………one flew over the coo coo nest bat shit crazy Freudian slip there Handiwipe

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          You smoke too much dope, Canadian.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Said King Kumoniwannaf#$kyouranus the Hawaiian choomer…..

            Why you gotta be an ethnocentric prick? Why do you hate Canadians who naturalize?

          • mickey_moussaoui

            Which one of you personalities are we dealing with now?

  • Rob Superliar

    Wow, the speed with which you start the distortion is amazing. Did you not understand what Obama said. Are your ears deaf to anything but Fox?

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      I’ve got the video of what Obama said, and I’ve got the facts which show he lied.

      The number of permits, and oil production, on federal lands has gone down under Obama.

      • $8194357

        In spite of the Democrats production is up, not because of them.

      • Rob Spinmore

        When you play the video, play Obama’s response. As the master spinner of course you leave out what Obama said. Obama said the permits were pulled because the oil companies were not using them. The idea was to give the permits to companies that would use them. Anyone who looks at the WHOLE video and then reads your shit, will instantly see how this blog works.

        • $8194357

          Pulled for future crony profit for who?
          big Democratic donors thats who..
          pay to play baby…

        • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

          The whole exchange is there, in context.

          Obama, simply, is wrong.

          • Bubba

            FACT CHECK: Oil production on federal land: Romney claimed oil production on federal land is down 14 percent under Obama. But that’s one-year number. Last year, oil production on federal land was down 1 percent, compared to the previous year. But overall, oil production on federal land under Obama is up from 566 million barrels in 2008 to 626 million barrels in 2011, a 10.6 percent increase.

          • Bubba

            Will verify, rob, you need an intern, fast on the trigger again. I also know a thing or two about blm and federal mineral lease utilization, and yes, from experience. The point is to push forward the revenue owed to the leaseholder that juatified the extraction tax and reit tax structure provided to the extractor, preventing inequitable tax waste

          • $8194357

            Can you tell me why State owned leases go on the BLM auction and bring 5 to 16 thousand an acre lease and private owned leases on the same spacing unit go for 50 to 150 dollars an acre lease?

          • Bubba

            Less upside, reduced risk premium.

          • $8194357

            And what kind of fancy jargon is that?
            Means taxpayer subsidized cronism?

          • Bubba

            Lower risk investment yields less reward, sometimes due to tax advantage and proven results or reserves. Traditionally, the difference between investing in safe tax preferred bonds like munis vs. speculative instruments like junk bonds. Or, stable large cap domestic equities vs. small cap international.

          • $8194357

            And why does that explain the “state” getting 1000 times more lease value for the same dang minerals on the same dang hole drilled compared to private ownership?
            One hole with less risk for the state owned minerals vs.
            privately held minerals.
            Or crony capitalist middlemen getting the 1000 times more value
            when they lease “privately held minerals?
            Same politicians who benifit from the “windfall profits”
            write the dang legislations and tax scales huh.
            Did Greg Tank ever win his lawsuit on that?

          • $8194357

            When did fracking start on federal land?
            Remember the evil fracking bringing up production?

          • Bubba

            Who said anything about fracking? Wv and met coal suffered due to lack of domestic demand and limited export infrastructure, s.c. Couldn’t handle for shipment to china. shift is to lower cost dirty coal for energy in ill, western ky, and ind, ironically due to epa required scrubbers. A lot of fed coal is supercompliant, and underground mined. You guys don’t get your candidate at all. Eia report on fossil production,decrease in total btu is attributal to coal.

          • Bubba
          • Bubba
          • $8194357

            Did fracking on federal land increase bopd or not?
            Your sounding more like an apoligist for insider cronyism than anything else to me..

          • Bubba

            Oil production is up, gas flat to negative, and coal down. Rob refers to a chart showing total fossil btu to prove (i should say mislead at worst or fail to prove at best) his premise; oil production is down on fed land over four years.

          • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

            You’re actually right. I went to fossil fuel production, and I should have gone to permitting.

            http://energytomorrow.org/blog/politics-energy-and-the-president/#/type/all

            Point stands, Obama is hostile to energy production on federal land.

          • Bubba

            Oil permits from 1985 to present, notice fy 2009 to present are higher than basically all years save fy 2004 to 2008. That is notable. https://explore.data.gov/widgets/d4jt-6asd

          • Bubba

            Take a look at producing oil leases and acres, essentially constant for the past eight years. Obama mentioned this http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wo/MINERALS__REALTY__AND_RESOURCE_PROTECTION_/energy/oil___gas_statistics/data_sets.Par.69959.File.dat/table-01.pdf

          • Bubba

            time to respond to permit app, broken down by applicant prep time and blm response once app is taken. Blm response time is actually faster, but regs make for more industry due diligence

          • Bubba
          • Bubba

            And finally, staring in fy, industry asked for far less federal land by acres. Less acres probably means less permit applications. Conicidentally, over those years private exploitation boomed inwestern nd. Read some data, rather than hash blog work. http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wo/MINERALS__REALTY__AND_RESOURCE_PROTECTION_/energy/oil___gas_statistics/data_sets.Par.40656.File.dat/EOIs%20Acres%202006-2011.pdf

          • Hal625

            “probably means”

            Now you are really stretching. Back to the facts; Obama lied again.

          • $8194357

            10X

          • Bubba

            If you can’t find the logic between less acreage requested and less permits applied for, i feel sorry for you.

          • $8194357

            Crony a$$ windfall with complicit legislations…
            just like I said huh.

          • $8194357

            10X
            Rob

          • Bubba

            So you cite as authoritative api’s blog? As you know, api is the oil and gas industry’s key lobbying group. Happens to be chaired by jack gerard, who is a close friend and de facto bundler for romney who is under consideration for a cabinet position. I know cronyism is supposed to bother you all, so what do you call this?

          • Hal625

            FACT CHECK:
            You are being dishonest. Romney said permits and licenses on federal lands and waters, NOT production. Watch the above video.

          • Bubba

            I was responding to rob’s assertion, dude.

        • GunnySarge

          Sir every time President Obama moved his lips he was lying

          • $8194357

            10X
            Gunny…
            Its a liberal thing….

        • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister
        • HG

          So what your saying is Obama was incorrect to claim oil production on federal lands has increased as opposed to his admission that it has decreased.
          Got it.

        • robert108

          No, the object of obama’s oil policies is to jack up the price of oil to make the nosebleed cost of his “green” energy crony payoffs look better by comparison. So far, he’s failing, his crony payoffs are failing, and the American taxpayers are stuck with the bill.

          • $8194357

            10X
            and crony profits on both…

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          10x these useful idiots of the right are aimed to do one thing, convince other useful idiots that their bullshit doesn’t stink.

          • $8194357

            SQUAWK
            hanni want a cracker….
            Parrot boy from the island…
            The plane boss..
            The plane…

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            ^^ Proof that the right-wing idiots will say and believe anything once they are given an excuse to double down on their preconceived delusions.

          • LenYol

            You actually believed obama when he said he’d cut the deficit in half and reduce the debt. You believed him, and his administration when they blamed a film trailer that had been on YOUTUBE for 2 months for the murder of Americans.
            You believed your mongoloid parents when they said they cared about you! You maroon.

          • $8194357

            SQUAWK

          • Todd

            obama has lost the independent vote, and a large portion of the female vote.

            He’s done.

        • Herb

          And which companies are now using that land?

  • kevindf

    Someone should explain to the pigeon-toed President that the second amendment has nothing to do with hunting.

  • $8194357

    Romney should just of asked him:
    “Why you shut down domestic off shore and have the taxpayers
    subsidize off shore Petro Brazil for Soros?

  • NoeValleyJim

    http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/02/22/429785/gas-prices-fact-domestic-oil-production-has-soared-under-president-obama/

    The number of oil drilling rigs in the U.S. hit a record last week, having quadrupled in number over the past three years. Between oil and gas drilling rigs, the U.S. now has more rigs at work than the rest of the world combined. The current oil boom hasbuoyed the projections of some leading oil industry analysts:“It’s staggering,” said Marshall Adkins, who directs energy research for the financial services firm Raymond James. “If we continue growing anywhere near that pace and keep squeezing demand out of the system, that puts you in a world where we are not importing oil in 10 years.”

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      The problem with that is that nobody is disputing that overall oil production in the US is up. It is, thanks to produciton on private land in places like North Dakota.

      Where it’s down is off-shore and on federal land, where Obama has control.

      That’s the point Romney was making.

      • Bubba

        The point is fed oil land production isn’t down. Are you sticking with this? I know you aren’t lying, you just don’t research and verify much of anything.

        • Hal625

          You don’t know what you are talking about. More rigs and more production on private lands unless EPA stops fracking. The claim about oil leases on federal lands has been fact checked by several outlets and Romney is correct.

          The Democrat war on oil and gas has been confirmed.

          • $8194357

            Until their crony benifactors get control…

        • Hal625

          You are being dishonest. Romney said permits and licenses on federal lands and waters, NOT production.

      • NoeValleyJim

        What’s the truth? Oil production did fall by 14 percent on federal lands – onshore and offshore – but that was only in one year, from 2010 to 2011.

        And it was mainly the result of fallout from the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico in 2010.

        But Obama is correct, that since he took office, oil production on federal lands is up.

        http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/16/14494024-truth-squad-the-second-presidential-debate?lite

        Read that last sentence again and get back to me.

        • Hal625

          If you watched the debate or the video Rob included as part of this post you will clearly see that the subject was about FEDERAL PERMITS AND LICENSES ON PUBLIC LAND AND WATERWAYS. You, like Obama, know that current production numbers are benefited by the leases and permits issued by Bush. That is why you are trying to change the question.

          Obama is such a failed President he is now taking credit for the benefits that Bush has left him.

    • $8194357

      Private held minerals not government held.

  • kevindf

    Obama was asked about guns and he starts babbling about teachers.

    • two_amber_lamps

      Assault Weapons Ban? UN Agenda 21?

      “This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.”

      -Barack “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” Obama

      • $8194357

        The last twenty years in DC has been all about selling Americans out to the UN and globalism…I first really started checking into it when Billary and Soros were running amok in the 90’s…
        Grandpa warned me way back in the early 60’s tho..

  • Mitt Shitte

    What about your stumble bum Mitt on Libya. He really got caught on a big lie. The moderator confirmed Mitt lied. Of course Rob the spinner missed it. Where is the spinneroo on that one Rob?

    • HG

      No lie. Obama may have said that we will not tolerate “acts of terror”, but he and his administration proceeded over the following two weeks to tell us it was a spontaneous act in response to a video. Obama conveniently ignored his claims.

      • Jerry

        Crowley is now retracting her statement. She knows she effed up. And now even more attention has been drawn to the issue, which heavily favors Romney.

        • HG

          Saw that this morning. She may have done Romney a favor.

      • http://Sayanythingblog.com The Whistler

        And that was right after he made a tribute to 9/11 so it’s safe to assume that at the time he was talking about the World Trade Center.

        • HG

          Maybe. It personally think he knew it was an act of terror and let it slip. The video and spontaneous attack nonsense was intended to cover up a terrorist attack on America on 9/11 that could easily have been avoided. That’s not something you want a month prior to the election.

          • $8194357

            Besides…
            There was campaign money in Vegas needing to be “harvested”
            the next day…

    • Hal625

      You are wrong. Informed people knew Obama lied when it happened. Where have you been for the past 2 weeks?

      Candy Crowley has corrected her error.
      http://www.redstate.com/2012/10/17/candy-crowley-admits-romney-was-right-on-libya/

  • WOOF

    Not like it matters
    ” Last year, oil production on federal land was down 13.8 percent, compared to the previous year.
    But
    overall, oil production on federal land under Obama is up from 566
    million barrels in 2008 to 626 million barrels in 2011, a 10.6 percent
    increase.”
    Willard’s gotcha costs him undecideds,
    Everyone in the audience were undecideds.

    • $8194357

      Because of private fracking techniqes developed for larger production numbers and inspite of the leftist fear and smear about those same fracking proceedures.

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      Your facts are wrong. In 2011 fossil fuel production on federal land was down from 2008.

      • Bubba

        You said oil production in your post, not fossil fuel. O and r were talking about oil production. admit your mistatement, you can still make a point without false accusation.

        • Hal625

          No, Romney’s point was PERMITS and LICENSES. Obama tried to change the question to be about production to take credit for the permits and licenses approved under Bush and increased production on private lands.

          Obama’s answer clearly shows the truth about permits and licenses that is why he twisted his answer into a lie.

        • HG
          • $8194357

            When the Communist Broadcast Systems turns on boy wonder…
            It must be true, huh…

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      Also, look at how long permitting for drilling on federal land and off-shore is taking. Chart is above.

      • Hal625

        This debate was horrible for Heidi Heitkamp. ND oil was again part of the debate and Obama was exposed lying about federal permits. The result will be more focus on the Democrat war on oil and gas which will continue to hurt Heitkamp.

    • HG

      You couldn’t be more wrong.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPx7YF174Vo

  • $8194357

    Barry 2006….
    The Quote of the Decade:
    “The fact that we are here today to debate raising America ‘s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America ‘s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, “the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”

    ~ Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006

  • mickey_moussaoui

    Ob☭ma: “Gas Prices Low ‘Because the Economy Was on the Verge of Collapse”
    So let me get this straight. Gas prices are twice as high now because we are doing so much better economically?
    WTF is he smoking?

    • $8194357

      Choom choom..
      $1.86 when he came in and over $4.00 now even tho his
      czars want it at $6 to $10….
      Four more and you can bet the czars will get it there, huh.

    • Bubba

      the idea is collapse in demand due to economic conditions. High supply in face of low demand equals fire sale. general economic growth on a global basis plus tight supply in mid east equals higher prices. you know everything on your conputer is viewable?

      • mickey_moussaoui

        The only problem is that economic conditions are worse now than they were then.

        • $8194357

          Doh….
          10X

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          The economy is nowhere as bad as it was the moment America kicked bush int the patoot on the way out.

          Romney didn’t contest it, because he knew. He just stood there, looking like a dog who got his faced shoved in poop.

          • Zog

            “The economy is nowhere near as bad as it was ….”
            Not in North Dakota of course but, try venturing into California or almost anywhere else in the giant wasteland that the Lower 48 has become.

          • donwalk

            How’s it doing compared to June of 2009 when the recession was declared “Over”?
            How’s it doing now that our children and grandchildren have been burdened with over sixteen trillion in debt?

    • HG

      That was a hilarious moment. Anybody with iota of economic sense knows better.

  • Phil Gay

    Scott Hennen’s business filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy, will there also be criminal charges for fraud coming soon? KFGO & Joel Heitkamp pushed him over the edge with 101.9 FM takeover of Rush Limbaug & Scott Hannity. scooter is in big trouble as he has very little advertising.

    • Hal625

      Limbaugh and Hannity were gone before he bought it.

      • $8194357

        Little things like facts don’t register with Leninin’s useful idiots, tho.

  • matthew_bosch

    Fantastic post Rob.
    To those on the left. Do you want Obama to be pro-fossil fuel?
    If I were pro-green energy, these statistics would be promising.

  • HG

    The President showed up tonight. He did a decent job. His demeanor was relaxed and confident. As far as style goes, the edge goes to the President. The facts definitely favored Romney and for most of the debate Obama was unable to overcome them. The one moment the President succeeded was on Benghazi. Romney let command of the facts fall prey to the Presidents scolding. The President played it as if he or his administration never told us for 2 weeks that it was a spontaneous attack in response to a video. Romney, for the most part, let him get away with it. The good news is there is another debate just one week from tonight and I’m certain this will be revisited.
    There is a timeline of the Benghazi story telling here:
    http://hg.sayanythingblog.com/2012/10/12/obama-administration-benghazi-timeline/

    • $8194357

      Fair assesment HG..

      • HG

        thanks. Independents seemed to see it a little different.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPx7YF174Vo

        • $8194357

          Saw it, HG..
          Pravda will be running full bore by morning…

        • Hal625

          This focus group was very focused on what was said instead of the delivery, that is why they went so solidly for Romney. I was surprised it was so lopsided but continue to be very impressed by how engaged and knowledgeable likely voters have become.

    • Hal625

      Obama lied on his Libya question. Candy Crowley has admitted that in fact Romney was right and Obama wrong. That is all that will be remembered especially since it is clear that that lying response was planned for that question that everyone knew would come up.

      • $8194357

        Focused grouped to death I bet.

      • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

        What did Obama lie about? Maybe you want to revisit the definition of lie?

        • robert108

          Lying is saying things that aren’t true, little hanni. That covers just about everything obama says to the American people.

        • donwalk

          On Sept. 11, scores of men with automatic weapons and RPGs launched a night assault on the U.S. compound in Benghazi, killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and set the building ablaze. Using mortars, they launched a collateral attack on a safe house, killing two more Americans, as other U.S. agents fled to the airport.
          On Sept.12, Obama never stated in the Rose Garden that the Libyan attack was an act of terror. Obama used the word “terrorism” in his remarks, but did so only within the context of the commemoration of the 9/11 attacks in New York and Washington. Obama never referred to the Libyan attacks specifically as an act of terror.
          On Sept. 14, White House press secretary Jay Carney said the attack came out of a spontaneous protest caused by an anti-Muslim video on YouTube.
          On Sept. 16, U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice told the entire nation the attack had not been premeditated or preplanned but emanated from a spontaneous protest of the nasty video.
          On Sept. 25, Obama at the United Nations mentioned the video six times, but did not mention acts of terrorism at all.
          Now we have learned that the assault was observed in near real time by the State Department who was in contact with the security section at the Benghazi compound.
          Within 24 hours of the attack, U.S. intelligence had identified some of the terrorists as members of an al-Qaida affiliate.
          There never was any protest at the Benghazi compound—not against an anti-Muslim video or anything else.
          The White House continued with the story of a protest against a video when they already knew within 24 hours who some of the murderers were, and had also watched the attack in real time?
          The explanation is that the truth would have exposed Obama’s boasting about his Libya triumph and al-Qaida being defeated and non-existent as propaganda.
          Al-Qaida is now in Libya, Mali, Yemen, Syria, Iraq and Pakistan.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            On September 11th, 3hrs after several embassies had protests outside of them in response to Terry Jones promoting the anti-Islamic film, armed militants attacked the Benghazi consulate, they stated to eye-witnesses that they were attacking in response to the film. This has been reported already.

            Obama said in the Rose garden specifically regarding the Benghazi attack: “No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.”

            Jay carney said by definition it was terrorism.

            MR. CARNEY: I haven’t, but — I mean, people attacked our embassy. It’s an act of terror by definition.

            Q Yes, I just hadn’t heard you –

            MR. CARNEY: It doesn’t have to do with what date it occurred.

            Any more lies you want to tell?

    • WOOF

      Romney plays gotcha OB on the Libyan attack.
      OB and moderator point out he’s dead wrong.
      Audience applauds Romney being taken down.
      OUCH
      Audiance all undecideds.

    • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

      The problem with your Benghazi analysis is that you forget that it could be both. A terrorist attack in response to the video is most likely. Got any evidence to the contrary or motive?

      • HG

        Except that the facts of the matter completely disagree. We now know it was a planned attack and had nothing to do with the video that had few hits at the time nor was there any riot spontaneous or otherwise. There is no evidence to support the administrations 2 week narrative. On the contrary, there was evidence it was a planned, coordinated, Al Queda terrorist attack.

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          That’s an outright lie. The video that was promoted by Terry Jones on 9/11 was shown on Al Jazeera. It doesn’t take more than 1 hit to post that information on television, which is what the ME saw.

          You are either lying, totally ignorant….or both.

          Where was the plans to attack on 9/11? I wasn’t aware of that evidence being found. Show it to me.

          Now stop lying, HG, and admit what I said is true, or prove it incorrect.

          The video was the motive that spurred the attack which was most likely a targeted site by AQ. AQ is always testing the boundaries and planning targeted attacks….but Terry Jones gave them the motive.

          • awfulorv

            Well shoot, In other words all we need do is give up our right of free speech, so that some left handed ass wipers wont be offended, is that the solution? Good enough, but convincing 75% of the states to do so will take some doing. That’s states, not population…

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Oh what B.S.

          • LenYol

            Yes, you are, nothing but bullshit.

          • Onslaught1066

            hanniturd, did you know there is another nincompoop on this blog just as retarded as you?

            He goes by hanniturdbrc.

            I do believe you two were separated at after-birth.

          • LenYol

            That video had been on YouTube for two months. It had nothing to do with the attacks on the embassy.
            But you keep believing the lie, it saves you the trouble of accepting the truth. No wonder your dumb little daddy always told you to STFU. Even an idiot like him couldn’t stand your stupidity.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            It was promoted by Terry Jones, then Al Jazeera picked it up after his promotion of it and Pastor Terry Jones got what he wanted.

            The terrorist attacks were motivated by Terry Jones.

          • Hal625

            That is not what Obama has said. He said that was faulty information from his intelligence department. Has Obama met with his National Security team yet? How come nobody will answer that question?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Obama first said it was protest against the video, in the rose garden he said no terror attack would go unanswered. Clearly he knew it was both. Just because you fail to understand that AQ could make a terrorist attack in response to Terry Jones promotion of the video isn’t anyone’s fault but your own.

            Either provide evidence that their was a plan to attack on 9/11 or stop.

          • Hal625

            “Clearly he knew it was both.”

            If he so clearly knew it was both why did his administration deny it was terrorism and blame the video for weeks? Obama, at the UN, never said anything about terrorism. Obama on the “View” never said it was terrorism, in fact, he wouldn’t say much beyond that they are investigating what happened. Hillary Clinton didn’t call it terrorism for weeks. Susan Rice emphatically denied it was terrorism during her Sunday tour of the news shows where she lied to the American people.

            Clearly, it wasn’t so clear. Maybe if he had met with his National Security team it would have been much more clear. When did Obama meet with his National Security Advisers? Before or after his Vegas fundraiser? Why won’t anyone tell the American people?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            They didn’t deny it was terrorism. That’s a lie. In fact they said, by definition it’s terrorism and that it was an act of terror.

          • Hal625

            Ambassador Rice denied it was terrorism on her Sunday media tour, I know that doesn’t fit into your narrative but it’s the truth.

          • LenYol

            The video was on YouTube for 2 months. It had nothing to do with the attack in Benghazi. The Al Quada attacks were motivated by their hate for America and the weakness of obama and his foreign policy. Al Quada is on the rise under obama, he’s losing, the USA is losing with him in the Oval office.
            But, thankfully, obama has lost the independent vote, and a large portion of the female vote.
            He’s done.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Eyewitnesses at the scene of the Benghazi attack were told by the attackers that they were angry about the film, no mention of 9/11 was given.

            I don’t know if you are lying, or just patently dishonest. Either way, your poor recollection of the facts along with your muddled thinking in regards to this event do your reputation little good as an honest person who is keen on the facts:

            What do eyewitnesses say about the events in Benghazi? Were they related to the insulting video, or is that a red herring? And was the assault planned for the anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, or was it spontaneous?

            According to reporting by David D. Kirkpatrick and Suliman Ali Zway of The New York Times, eyewitnesses have said there was no peaceful demonstration against the video outside the compound before the attack, though a crowd of Benghazi residents soon gathered, and some later looted the compound. But the attackers, recognized as members of a local militant group called Ansar al-Shariah, did tell bystanders that they were attacking the compound because they were angry about the video. They did not mention the Sept. 11 anniversary. Intelligence officials believe that planning for the attack probably began only a few hours before it took place.

            http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/16/world/africa/election-year-stakes-overshadow-nuances-of-benghazi-investigation.html

            http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/18/us/politics/questions-and-answers-on-the-benghazi-attack.html?_r=0

            Between the two of us, I am in command of the facts, proven with evidence. You merely have muddleheaded thinking and accusations.

          • robert108

            How about obama/biden spiking the football and bragging about how they killed OBL? That’s a lot more inciteful than some primitive video.

          • HG
          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession
          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            There doesn’t need to be a protest at the embassy for the film to have motivated the terrorists to attack. Why is your pea brain too small to figure that out? Eat some brain food.

          • Your_idiot_Father.

            “The terrorist attacks were motivated by Terry Jones”
            Aside from their hatred of the USA, the attacks were motivated by obama and biden constantly running their mouth’s and bragging about killing Bin Laden. obama/biden and their policies are the direct motivation of these, and any other attacks.
            You’re a moron, but you’re all you can be.Now STFU!!

          • your_whore_wife

            but, but, but….Eyewitnesses at the scene of the Benghazi attack were told by the attackers that they were angry about the film, no mention of 9/11 was given.

            I don’t know if you are lying, or just patently dishonest. Either way, your poor recollection of the facts along with your muddled thinking in regards to this event do your reputation little good as an honest person who is keen on the facts:

            What do eyewitnesses say about the events in Benghazi? Were they related to the insulting video, or is that a red herring? And was the assault planned for the anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, or was it spontaneous?

            According to reporting by David D. Kirkpatrick and Suliman Ali Zway of The New York Times, eyewitnesses have said there was no peaceful demonstration against the video outside the compound before the attack, though a crowd of Benghazi residents soon gathered, and some later looted the compound. But the attackers, recognized as members of a local militant group called Ansar al-Shariah, did tell bystanders that they were attacking the compound because they were angry about the video. They did not mention the Sept. 11 anniversary. Intelligence officials believe that planning for the attack probably began only a few hours before it took place.

            http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/16/world/africa/election-year-stakes-overshadow-nuances-of-benghazi-investigation.html

            http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/18/us/politics/questions-and-answers-on-the-benghazi-attack.html?_r=0

            Between the two of us, I am in command of the facts, proven with evidence. You merely have muddleheaded thinking and accusations.

          • Your_Slut_Sister_Lisa

            Aside from their hatred of the USA, the attacks were motivated by obama
            and biden constantly running their mouth’s and bragging about killing
            Bin Laden. obama/biden and their policies are the direct motivation of
            these, and any other attacks.
            You’re a moron, but you’re all you can be.Now STFU!!

          • Paul

            Your “evidence” is a left wing source which will swear to the lies of a liar.

          • HG

            Google “planned coordinated terrorist attack”. There are many, many references using those exact words from numerous sources. Many are in the administration itself like Patrick Kennedy who said “it was a deliberate and organized terrorist attack carried out by extremists.”

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            What does that prove, except Goebbels tactics are employed by the right. Why not show me evidence that the attack was planned for 9/11? Where is your evidence?

          • awfulorv

            Hells bells!! Using that kind of thought process will allow us to save a shitload of police salaries come Saint Patricks Day. We’ll just tell the boys in blue not to come in that day as we don’t expect an undue amount of imbibing will be taking place. I notice you’re unduly fixated on the third Reich. I would have pegged you as someone who has a shrine to Che Guevara, with perhaps even a lock of his beard, in the space under the stairs your mother allows you to foul, day by day.

          • HG

            “The head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, said an intelligence error is to blame.
            “I think we do know what happened now. There’s no question but that it was a terrorist attack, there is no question but that the security was inadequate and I think that there is no question that we need to work on our intelligence,” she said in a recent interview with a local CBS station in San Francisco.”

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            So you have no proof of a plan to attack the embassy on 9/11? All you have is a muddled understanding that terrorists were motivated by a film Terry Jones and Romney promoted.

          • Telly

            All you have is a muddled understanding that terrorists were motivated by a film obama released and Biden promoted.

          • chris

            All you are is muddleheaded

          • Kris

            The attacks were motivated by obama/biden running their mouths and constantly bragging about killing Bin Laden.

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            “a film…Romney promoted”

            I must have missed that, Young Skull Full of Meconium! And of course you have links to evidence of where Romney “promoted” this video”? Or are you merely confused because you are trying to communicate in English, and you know none of the words?

          • HG

            “The CIA station chief in Libya reported to Washington within 24 hours of last month’s deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate that there was evidence it was carried out by militants, not a spontaneous mob upset about an American-made video ridiculing Islam’s Prophet Muhammad, U.S. officials have told The Associated Press.”
            http://apnews.myway.com/article/20121019/DA20G2701.html

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Terrorists don’t need a mob to carry out an attack that’s motivated by Terry Jones and the film he and Romney were promoting.

            http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2012/09/the_mohammed_movie_and_the_embassy_attacks_romney_betrays_free_speech_.html

          • Hal625

            Not even Obama claims that. It will be interesting if he changes his “facts” again.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You simply don’t understand what he said, it’s on you, not him.

      • Hal625

        Why is Obama so incompetent? Have you noticed he no longer claims AQ is on the run? AQ has overrun Obama’s man in Libya and he tried to cover it up.

  • WOOF

    The Office of the President is a powerful, almost sacred thing.
    Playing gotcha with it is a mistake.

    • $8194357

      The office is…
      The poser holding the seat shouldn’t even be there woof.

    • robert108

      Even worse, running off to Vegas to shill for money right after AQ committed another act of war against us is a BIG mistake.

  • robert108

    He has to lie; the truth is not on his side.

  • HG

    Rob, this deserves its own post. Please consider it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPx7YF174Vo
    Independents swing toward Romney after the debate.

    • $8194357

      Saw that as well…
      Watch the MSM spin it on the am talk shows now…

    • Neiman

      Exactly, but CNN has it 46% Obama and 39% Romney and I don’t believe them. Nevada’s undecided went big for Romney and I think it was close, hard fought, but the people see Romney was right, we deserve better and he can deliver the goods.

      The next few days should tell the tale. Crowley was in the tank for Obama.

      Obama did much better than last time, but at best for him it was a draw and a draw loses.

      Oh, my prediction was correct, it is all “Obama the comeback kid” on the MSM.

      • Jerry

        Obama appeared better only because he was more aggressive. His command of the facts and issues wasn’t any better. The libs will eat it up but it’s all show, no go for The One.

        • Neiman

          The Left Stream Media is making it appear a slam dunk for Obumbler.

          • $8194357

            We knew they would.
            Thats what Pravda’s job is…
            Making the Commie look good
            and lieing to cover the states a$$…

        • $8194357

          Empty chair with an attitude..

      • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

        Shocker, Neiman doesn’t believe reality.

        • Neiman

          I know that CNN,MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, Time News Corporation and every part of the mainstream media are no better than propaganda ministries for the DNC; they are American versions of Pravda and Tass, wholly owned, body, soul and spirit to the Democrat Party and worshippers of Lord Obama – of course I doubt everything they report.

  • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

    Romney should have brought his teleprompter, he got pulverized. Now all you babies can do is claim Obama lied.

    Obama was too nice last time, expecting Romney to be the total incompetent he was during the entire election year. He wasn’t going to make that same mistake twice.

    • willieB

      obama has lost the independent vote, and a large portion of the female vote.

      He’s done.

    • Todd

      Pulverized???? Brahahahaha!!! Another word you should learn the meaning of.

      • HG

        Just shows how completely disconnected from reality H, and those like him, are.
        There is little to no hope for a fool of H’s caliber.

        • $8194357

          Indoctrinated brain washed useful idiot for communisms cause.

  • Mini Spinner

    What topics are on the agenda to distort today Rob? There is no question Heidi, and Obama will do something wrong to day, and of course Mitt will do something right. Just can’t wait.

  • banjo kid

    . What have we come to, is it now we have people winning by telling the biggest whopper ?

  • Sky Rider

    Basically it has all come down to one question. How do you know when Obama is lying? His lips are moving.

  • Sky Rider

    For me I think the debate really did come down to one point, and that was when Romney started talking saying; “We don’t have to live like this.” I think that thought is paramount to Reagan’s “It’s morning in America again”.

  • Confuses Me

    Be very careful not to listen to Public radio about this issue. You will get the truth, that is why Rob, and the Republicans hate NPR. Of course we know you just can’t trust any outfit that tells the truth, that is why we watch Fox.

    • mikemc1970

      You mean the Soros owned NPR? If the truth were BS then yes, NPR is full of it.

  • Harold

    Obama lies about increasing production of oil on federal lands. I think Obama pretty much lies whenever he opens his mouth and because democrats believe him that they will never have to work another day in their lives if he’s elected to a second term that everything will be free to everyone he may very well win in 3 weeks.

    • $8194357

      Liberal lies are the lefts life blood…
      Without them, they would surely die.

  • HG

    After sleeping on it, I’d agree with Mr. Morris. Romney won. He got the most out of the debate and independents are swaying his way, big time. Thank God the President’s days in office are few.
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/10/17/romney-won-second-debate/

    • Hal625

      The MSNBC focus group of undecided voters went for Romney as well.

      • HG

        Saw that. Romney definitely has the wind at his back. It’s looking very good for our ticket.

  • awfulorv

    There it was again, mention of the Bakken oil field. Did we tell you hard working oil field people that we’re proud of what you’re doing. This is how American workers have always solved problems, they work their way through them. Too bad you have to carry so many of the slackers on your shoulders.

  • $8194357

    And his white house boy Biden lied about running arms in Syria…

    Atlas shrugs

    Obama running weapons to jihadists and al qaeda:
    Syria’s Fast and Furious

    The Moebama adminstration is out of control.

    “The new Middle East coverup: Biden caught in Syria debate falsehood”
    Marc A. Thiessen, Washington Post

    First there was the Libya coverup.
    Now, we have the Syria coverup.

    In last week’s vice presidential debate, Joe Biden asserted that the United States was working to isolate al-Qaeda in Syria by ensuring that aid was directed to moderate elements of the Syrian opposition. “We are working hand and glove with the Turks, with the Jordanians, with the Saudis, and with all the people in the region attempting to identify the people who deserve the help so that when Assad goes — and he will go — there will be a legitimate government that follows on, not an al-Qaeda-sponsored government that follows on,” Biden declared.

    Paul Ryan immediately challenged Biden’s claim, saying that the administration’s inaction has allowed al-Qaeda to get a foothold in Syria. “The longer this has gone on, the more people, groups like al-Qaeda are going in,” Ryan said, adding, “We could have more easily identified the Free Syrian Army, the freedom fighters, working with our allies, the Turks, the Qataris, the Saudis, had we had a better plan in place.” Biden denied it, declaring: “We are in the process now — and have been for months — in making sure that help, humanitarian aid, as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces that we believe, the Turks believe, the Jordanians believe, the Saudis believe are the free forces inside of Syria.

    That is underway.

    ”Well, according to a report in this morning’s New York Times,
    Biden’s statement was not true.
    “Most of the arms shipped at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to supply Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar al-Assad are going to hard-line Islamic jihadists, and not the more secular opposition groups that the West wants to bolster, according to American officials and Middle Eastern diplomats,” the Times reports.

    The paper quotes one U.S. official as saying,
    “The opposition groups that are receiving the most of the lethal aid are exactly the ones we don’t want to have it,” adding that “officials, voicing frustration, say there is no central clearinghouse for the shipments, and no effective way of vetting the groups that ultimately receive them.”

    In other words, what Biden said was false.
    Worse yet, Biden knew his statement was untrue when he said it.

    According to the Times,
    “President Obama and other senior officials are aware [of this conclusion] from classified assessments of the Syrian conflict that has now claimed more than 25,000 lives,” adding the intelligence assessments “casts into doubt whether the White House’s strategy of minimal and indirect intervention in the Syrian conflict is accomplishing its intended purpose of helping a democratic-minded opposition topple an oppressive government, or is instead sowing the seeds of future insurgencies hostile to the United States.”

    If this is the assessment of our intelligence community,
    why did Biden say the exact opposite in the debate last week?

    When Biden was asked during the debate why requests for additional security in Libya were denied, he pleaded ignorance and blamed the State Department, declaring:
    “We weren’t told they wanted more security there.”

    But in the case of Syria, the Times reports,
    the President and his national security team were told that the aid was going to “hard-line Islamic jihadists.
    ” Yet Biden plainly asserted aid was going to “people who deserve the help” and “free forces inside Syria” and not jihadists. It is simply implausible that, if President Obama and his top national security advisers were aware of the intelligence assessments, Biden was not.

    The revelation that the Obama administration has presided over the development of an arms pipeline to al-Qaeda in Syria — and Biden’s apparently deliberate untruth about it in last week’s debate — is the latest Obama foreign policy coverup.

    With foreign policy on the agenda in tomorrow’s presidential debate, Mitt Romney has a golden opportunity to challenge the president on his administration’s latest national security scandal.Speaking at the Virginia Military Institute last week, Romney said that because of Obama’s failure to lead in Syria “we are missing an historic opportunity to win new friends who share our values in the Middle East.” He declared “it is essential that we develop influence with those forces in Syria that will one day lead a country that sits at the heart of the Middle East” and promised that he would “work with our partners to identify and organize those members of the opposition who share our values and ensure they obtain the arms they need to defeat Assad’s tanks, helicopters, and fighter jets.”

    Biden looked the American people in the eye last week and told them the Obama administration was doing exactly that. He apparently knew it was not so.

    Romney needs to ask the president tomorrow night:
    How is it that most of the aid in Syria is going to al-Qaeda and its allies?
    Why did your administration knowingly mislead the American people about this? And when are you going to stop subcontracting our responsibilities to others and start making sure aid and training get to those who share this nation’s values?

  • Bubba

    Think about this, why would federal permit applications be down (less applications and yes less permits). The boom in production is on primarily private land in western nd. I don’t know of large slices of federal land in nd available for oil production.. Keeping in mind tha there are limited extraction resources in the us, it could be that development dollars simply are not interested in blm land as a top priority over the past few years.

  • Demosthenes

    I liked the debate my only real issue is that I don’t believe Romney when he said we were all created by one god… better yet his Mormon god. If you can lie about that what is to stop him about from lying about other things only he believes or only Mormons believe.

  • Lynn Bergman

    Obama’s explanation was even more damning to his case. He admitted changing the rules in leases that were long term to make then short term. Another dictatorial chage in the “contracts” with oil companies.
    This guy is very scary! God help us if the “takers” re-elect him.

  • yy4u2

    Obama lied? You have to be shittin me.

  • Mark

    Could it be that drilling is down in federal lands because the industry does not want to drill in federal lands? Could it be that the greatest reserves and easiest to drill are on private land? You can easily discover these questions if you take the time to research.

    • http://Sayanythingblog.com The Whistler

      They aren’t issuing the permits.

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