Obama: Democrats Are For Children And Republicans Are For Corporate Jets

National Journal noticed a bit of class warfare going on during President Obama’s press conference today:

Kids versus corporate jets.

If President Obama’s news conference accomplished anything on Wednesday afternoon, it underscored, in striking tones, his strategy for winning the debt ceiling fight with Republicans: Make it a clash of classes. …

In Obama’s world, Democrats are for kids and Republicans are for corporate jets. That is a sharp distinction that could help put the GOP on defensive, but it may not be enough to persuade Republicans to change their posture on the debt-ceiling talks.

Republicans have cast Obama as a tax-raiser and a Big-Government spender. This was his jujitsu move to turn their arguments against them. With a hint of disdain, Obama even dredged up the death of Osama bin Laden to score a political point.

In other words, the Republican message is “Hey, we’re spending beyond our means.”

Obama’s message is, “You hate little kids and love corporate jets!”

And we wonder why we can’t get anything done in Congress.

Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • DopeyDem

    You wish there was just one person in the press with any sort of cajones. They could make minced meat out of BHO for all his BS comments. Especially about Congress and vacations.

  • 2hotel9

    “Obama: Democrats Are For Children”  Really? So that is why he pushes abortion. We get it, now.

    • Wayne

      Not only that but the dimcrats are ensuring that my 4 yr old will be giving all his money to the almighty government when he grows up.  His standard of living will be approaching that of the North Koreans.  I have a 76 yr old mother and a 4 yr old son.  Do they really think I “hate” the both of them?  How absolutely ridiculous. Why don’t more people see through this BS?  It’s the dimocrats that are destroying the middle class.  Just look at what is happening to the middle class today with the dimocrats in charge.

      Let me fix that for big O.  Dimocrats are for special interests and republicans are for Americans.

      • WOOF

        Your 76 yr old mother is getting a Treasury check or two and if she runs you over guess the kind of checks your 4 year old will get till his majority..

        • Wayne

          What your point?  My Mom will still get her puny Social Security check with Ryan’s budget.  Tell me if you believe I want to push my Mom off the cliff.  The more money I get to keep, the more I have for my son and Mom.  Raising taxes on me takes more from them than Mom’s puny Social Security check.  Obama and his friends in Congress are hurting my Mom today with high gas and food prices which are the result of the dimacrats policies.  And I can’t even bear to think what Obama’s crushing debt will do to my little boy when he grows up.  So F you and your, gee the government gives your mother money too.  That is no excuse for them to ruin peoples lives.

          • Wayne

            And when the finacial crisis hit (thanks again dimacrats) my brother lost his job with the bank that he’s had for 30 years and is still unemployed (thanks again dimocrats).  So again F U.  ASSHAT

          • Wayne

            financial 

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            He’s unemployed because he’s unemployable, sad to say.  Lot’s of Americans who never worked hard to prepare themselves for hard times have it rough when easy street closed down.

            I thought republicans believed in survival of the fittest and lifting yourself up by the boot straps?

            I’m making more money now than I did under bumbling Bush.  Thank you, O.

          • Wayne

            This is the most irresponsible thing you have every said.  I’ve never been in a fight in my life but right now I would like to punch in the nose.  You don’t know a god damn thing about my brother who is a very good man and very hard working.  We learned that from my parents.  We learned to earn what we get.  Tell me, with unemployment at 16% are all these people simply unemployable.  You are one of the biggest idiots I’ve ever encountered.  Don’t insult my family.  You are a peice of shit.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You blame your brothers unemployment on Democrats and then expect to be taken seriously about making “responsible” comments?  Are you here to make people giggle or respond?  You’ve managed to get both responses from me.

            Here’s what I do know about your brother; he’s not unemployed or not working because of Democrats.  The minute you can look in the mirror and admit that to yourself, and us, will be the minute we can have a serious discussion.  Sadly, like most of the SAB nut jobs, you aren’t capable of it, so let’s just pass along insults, eh?

          • Gil

            “He’s unemployed because he’s unemployable, sad to say.  Lot’s of Americans who never worked hard”

            I guess you missed the part where he worked for a bank for 30 years. Pay attention, pansy boy.

          • 2hotel9

            tranni never pays attention, it just spews its sh*t and lies direct from the DNC weekly talkingpoints email.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Lot’s of union people worked the same job for 30 years, just as people do working for the state.  Are they also hard workers in your mind?

          • Gil

            Are they also unemployable in your little mind, pansy boy?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Well, if they have been unemployed for an extended period of time and can’t find a job, I guess that answers that, eh mickey?

            Of course anyone can find a job if they want it.  They might not find the job they want or believe they should have, but they can find a job.

          • Gil

            “I’m making more money now”

            Does that make you less of an asshole? No

          • Stu

            I’m making more money now

            Considering what the cost of living is in Hawaii, you’re probably not making any more than anyone else in your field that lives on the main land. And if you are, who really gives a shit?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Thanks for the invective, Stu.  But that really does nothing to counter his argument that it’s the democrats fault that his brother is unemployable.  I just received 3 unsolicited job offers in the last month.  How can that be if it’s the Democrats fault people cant get jobs?

          • Stu

            I was responding to your self serving comment, not his. And your 3 job offers, who gives a shit?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            I think his anecdotal response deserves another.  The fact that you don’t like mine only shows your pettiness and unwillingness to discuss the issues, or anecdotals themselves, now doesn’t it?

          • WOOF

             Who is raising your taxes?
            Obama lowered them.
            Who sent your mom extra money”
            O did.

          • robert108

            Two more lies from you.  obama has raised taxes; he just lied about it.  He has crippled our economy, so there is no “extra money”; have you seen the debt figures?  He’s running us into the ground, and lying about it every step along the way.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            President Obama signed the largest tax cut bill in US history.

          • 2hotel9

            And yet another lie from another sh*t spewing liar.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You mean another fact your brain refused to process properly and that your republican-poisoned mind turned into an alternate reality.

            People like you ignore facts so that you can live comfortably in your ignorance, you realize that don’t you?

          • 2hotel9

            No, I mean yet another lie you spewed from your sh*tstained spewhole, you whinny lying c*nt.

          • 2hotel9

            Poor widdle tranni! Crying again. What a c*nt. No wonder you vote for Democrats and suck sh*t out of Muslim terrorist’s a$$holes, you c*nt.

          • Wayne

            The dimocrats want to raise taxes and will if the republicans cave.  The republicans lowered taxes and forced the dimocrats to keep them that way.  Obamao didn’t lower taxes he was forced not to raise them like he wanted to.  Obamao didn’t send my Mom money either.  You guys are liars.  Do you think I want old people and kids to starve?  It is such BS.  It’s the dimocrats and Obamao that are starving people by putting people out of work and destroying the economy.  I’m not interested in talking to you if all you have are stupid comments like this last one.  

          • robert108

            What is in the way of old people getting checks is the public employees’ unions bloated pension demands.
            They buy Dem votes with our tax money.  That’s just wrong.

          • Wayne

            Just so you know my Mom worked for 38 years as a school cook.  She retired when she was 74 (and they begged her to stay).  She paid into SS the entire time (as did my Dad who died on the job as a fireman and never collected a dime from the government).  And based on the little SS check she gets every month, she will never break even.  I don’t see how anyone can live on SS.  And you guys want to make it sound like such a big deal.  You, like all other dimocrats, are a lying hypocrite.

          • Wayne

            I just talked to my brother and he corrected me.  My Mom worked as a cook for a public grade school for 41 years and a cook for a Catholic grade school for seven years before that.

          • WOOF

            unmarried children who are younger than age 18 (or up
            to age 19 if they are attending elementary or secondary school full
            time) also can receive benefits. Your children can get benefits at any
            age if they were disabled before age 22 and remain disabled. Under
            certain circumstances, benefits also can be paid to your stepchildren, grandchildren, stepgrandchildren or adopted children.
            http://ssa.gov/pubs/10084.html

            Benefit is 66 2/3% of employee’s average weekly wages for spouse or
            spouse with children, plus an additional $10 per week for each dependent
            child, up to 110% of the state average weekly wage. Minimum and
            maximum amounts apply. Spouse receives additional lump sum of $1,200 and
            $400 for each dependent child. Maximum payable total is $300,000 over
            the life of the claim. Children are considered dependent until age 18,
            age 23 if a full-time student, or longer if disabled or incapable of
            self-support. All medical bills acquired by the firefighter’s death are
            paid. WSI pays all medical bills directly related to the compensable
            injury and death of a worker.

             
            http://www.firehero.org/resources/benefits/nd.html

          • 2hotel9

            ah, ain’t that cute?!?! More lies and sh*t spew from the lying sh*t spewer. Bless its welfare whore heart.

          • Guest

            You’re stupid, and you’re proud of it. You’re a loser!

          • 2hotel9

            No, lying c*nt, W lowered taxes, Barri has been blocked from raising them, lying c*nt.

          • Wayne

            It is absolutely crazy how all the libs will “like” any lie no matter how obvious or ridiculous that they think makes Obamao look better.  I think it says a lot about them.  Democrats are ruled by partisanship not principle.

        • Guest

          One of those checks is the money SHE paid into HER social security. You dope!

          • ellinas1

            So? Be an example to the rest of America. Do not accept S.S. or Medicare.

          • Wayne

            Where did you get that from?  What the hell does that have to do with the lie that republicans are for corporate jets and democrats are for kids?

          • ellinas1
          • 2hotel9

            More lies and sh*t spew from the arch sh*t spewing liar.

          • ellinas1

            Wingnuts (con-nuts and religionuts) cost $0.99 per ton here on SAB blog.

          • 2hotel9

            And you have lost here, too. Go ahead, c*nt. Prove it to everyone by posting another comment. I order you to, c*nt.

          • Wayne

            You guys can’t answer a question can you?  This is pure BS.

          • ellinas1

            I gave you several links, where you can see for yourself, republicans in action cutting funds for the mentally ill, infirm and mentally disabled children.
            Either follow the links, or do your own research.

          • 2hotel9

            See?!? All ec*nt does is spew sh*t and lies. She is entirely incapable of doing anything else.

          • 2hotel9

            I already explained top you, ec*nt’s whole point is to steal from real human beings by defrauding the California Public Assistance System. She bragged to us for a full year about being an illegal alien from Greece and how she was so smart no one would ever catch her stealing from the system. Just ask her, she is proud of it. She will also tell you all about how all the world’s problems are caused by those dirty Jooos she hate so much, and how when they are all killed the world will be perfect. Just ask her, she will gleefully regale you with her NAZI sh*t, endlessly without end.

          • 2hotel9

            See, welfare whores like you want the government to steal money and then block people from getting it back. F*ck you.

          • Guest

            Why shouldn’t I accept it when the time comes, it’s what was taken from my pay, I earned it.

          • 2hotel9

            Ya see, ec*nt’s whole point is to stop Americans from getting back the money stolen from them, that way she continues to get her phat welfare payouts.

          • ellinas1

            Wingnuts (con-nuts and religionuts) cost $0.99 per ton here on SAB blog.

          • 2hotel9

            And you have lost here, too. Go ahead, c*nt. Prove it to everyone by posting another comment. I order you to, c*nt.

          • ellinas1

            You should not accept it because, correct me if I am wrong, you are a conservative republican, an uber patriot, who loves this country and do not wish to see it go broke because of those socialistic/communist programs the socialists/Democtrats enacted in violation of our constitution.

          • 2hotel9

            And you have lost here, too. Go ahead, c*nt. Prove it to everyone by posting another comment. I order you to, c*nt.

  • fedupny

    “all your kid belong to us”
    These kids will grow up never being able to have the opportunity to own a corporate jet. Sounds a little like he might be trying to foment an ‘American Summer’ here.

    • 2hotel9

      Besides, kids are so hard to fly, I really do prefer a jet.

  • http://randysroundtable.blogspot.com/ Randy G

    He is so far gone he losing to a dog catcher(as long as it a Republican) in polls, the class warfare meme won’t work anymore. It just pisses people off. Too many are watching Mooshelle and Barry wasting money traveling the globe and golfing every weekend while destroying the economy to even take the “liar in chief” seriously anymore.

  • Neiman

    He is right and they will win the issue on that basis. The appearance conservatives project is one of hating children, the old and the handicapped and and no matter what the costs are, you make it appear that conservatism is for the rich, wanting to make them richer and the poor – poorer. It is their fault, your fault, your brand of conservatism deliberately, despite every appeal by a few fellow conservatives, are the “let em eat cake, are their no prisons and their no poor houses” conservative branch in your every utterance, well except for showing deep concern for homosexuals.

    To a man you all refuse to change your language, you refuse to communicate the conservative message in human terms, in your view it is always that every one else is just too damn stupid and they don’t deserve your wisdom and when someone dares to speak in those terms like Ryan, you all turn against him like savage wolves.

    If I were advising Obama I would suggest just such a strategy, tell the people the conservatives are in love with money and will cast out old ladies, evicting them into the snow, starving children and etc; knowing your brand of conservatives will not challenge that by showing how conservatism will benefit everyone and speak of any real concern for people, you will just argue the account books don’t balance and call for everyone (poor people) to suffer and you will LOSE and you deserve to lose the issue, because you will not change your way of communicating with the people no matter the costs to the party or conservatism.

    • robert108

      Hate to see you preaching Marxist dialectic, Neiman.  It’s a false dichotomy, in that caring for children doesn’t require you to be fiscally irresponsible.  On the contrary, the more fiscally responsible we are, the better off the next generation will be.  obama is a Marxist, and proves it once again with this speech.

      • Neiman

        That really irritates me 108: I NEVER – I mean NEVER said conservatism was NOT better for the children and for future generations or that I favored Marxism  in the least, I have always framed the debate as a communications problem on our side. It is a matter of conservatives needing to stop sounding like heartless, green eye shade accountants; and, as Ryan has set the example, using language (honestly) that shows the people our compassion for the future generations and even current citizens through applying sound conservative principles.

        If Obama and the Democrats box us in by painting us as being against the elderly, children and the infirmed, why won’t conservatives like you consider even for one freaking, atomic moment in time that, just possibly it is our fault that the Obama type formula is so effective, how maybe we just poorly communicate, that is the freaking problem? We let them win, we let Marxism win, because we are wholly unable and/or unwilling to talk about how conservative principles help those children the elderly or infirmed, not in cold numbers but in effect.

        Forget it, I know I am talking to a freaking brick wall whenever I try to appeal to conservatives to improve how they communicate the conservative message, not change it one iota, but look up from the ledgers and talk about how idea X = Y real benefits to little Johnny, or old Mrs. Johnson or Mr. Johnson and their need for medical care or financial help. No, it is impossible because truthfully, conservatives are just smarter than everyone else and they don’t need to do anything but talk about cold numbers and mean old socialism and if the people don’t get it, screw em.

        • robert108

          So, you want us to be con men like the Dems, instead of telling the truth?  There are real differences between conservatives and the other guys, Neiman, and we won’t win by becoming like them.
          The Dems are going to lie and spin, no matter what we do or say, so we might as well tell the truth, IMO.

          obama’s speech today was a mixture of Marxist “fixed pie” economic nonsense and Marxist class envy.  The real problem is that a lot of Americans don’t realize what he’s really preaching.  It’s a matter of education, not advertising/PR, IMO.

          • Neiman

            No ONCE did I suggest we LIE! Not ONCE did I suggest we act like Liberal Con Men. You are making that up out of whole cloth. I even, though you deliberately chose to ignore it, gave you an example of Rep. Ryan who spoke about changing Social Security and Medicare in a way that would provide peace of mind for those on these programs or nearly on them, while moving others to a program that would provide even greater benefits. He could speak in real conservative terms, while not sounding like the average mean spirited conservative a-hole. It is NOT a con job to look up from the account books and talk about how conservative principles will provide a better way of life for real people, in real human terms.

            I NEVER spoke of advertising, I spoke of improving how we communicate our message. I knew it would all fall on deaf ears, as conservatives like sounding like they don’t give a damn about average people, they love the “hang em” mentality of advancing conservatism, while I think that approach has and always will hurt conservatism.

          • robert108

            “I NEVER spoke of advertising, I spoke of improving how we communicate our message.”

            If we’re not telling the truth, it’s advertising.
            You have it exactly backwards; conservatives care enough about the American people that we want to tell them the truth, so that their lives will be improved, and not spew a bunch of politically-favorable BS.

            If we don’t speak the truth, we would be lying.  Glad you brought up Ryan; he told the truth, and is being savaged for it by the Dems/MSM.  A great example of what we have to do to win.  We need to persevere, not knuckle under.
            Conservatives are not “mean-spirited a-holes”, as you claim; that’s a venomous leftie lie.  Sorry to hear you basing your thinking on it.
            Conservatives are the only ones who care about the average person, along with all Americans; we don’t divide Americans into groups, and target them for special treatment or punishment, like the Dems do.
            Sorry you fall for anti-conservative propaganda, Neiman.

            Please explain your claim about “the hang-em mentality” of conservatism.  I have never seen any such thing.  It’s the Dems who want to lynch(financially and politically) the Americans who disagree with their Marxist crap.

          • Neiman

            This is just my spitting into the wind where you are concerned:
            1. I spokes of the appearances created by YOUR accountant mentality, your inability, your absolute unwillingness to ever admit you are wrong about anything. You would not admit that I did not say the things you accused me of, it is against your nature.
            2. So you are saying that if conservatives speak in terms of how conservative principles help the average person, versus our arguing like accountants, then they are not telling the truth; which means the truth is, conservatism actually does not help people. Glad you made that clear, that conservatism will gladly throw granny and kids in the street.
            3. You are just like Wayne above, all excuses: It is the Democrats, Obama and the MSM that are at fault if the people tend to agree with the condescending, class warfare, lying approach of Obama. We need take no personal responsibility, have absolutely no thoughts that conservatives could be wrong because they refuse to communicate their ideals better, it is all someone else’s fault, right? There is no way it is the fault of conservatives, their not speaking about conservative principles in human terms, we are just poor victims, right?
            4. “Hang-em,” means the message you communicate, like far too many conservatives is that if poor people, old people and children die as a result of conservative values, let them die.

            This conversation will go no where and I no longer have any interest in acrimonious debates. I have been here before and it is always ugly. I think the solid economic, limited government and Judeo-Christian principles of conservatism will absolutely raise the prosperity and quality of life of everyone in America, that it can still help those in need, it can increase individual liberty, while leading us to economic recovery; but that is not what you seem to preach, you are so sure you are right and only you are right that you need never engage in self examination of how we might be able to better communicate our message, your point of view appears that if the people do not agree with cold dollars and cents arguments, then they don’t deserve you, they don’t deserve conservatism, take it your way or the highway and I simply think there is a better way to communicate the conservative message that will inspire people, that will lift their spirits and help them embrace conservatism as being better for America; and we will never – not ever agree about that simple fact. You simply cannot conceive of a kinder, gentler way to communicate the message while not sacrificing the ideals of conservatism one iota, you seem to see kinder and gentler as a sell out, a lie, a con job, while I feel that is what real conservatism means..

          • robert108

            Where is this “appearance” you claim, except in your own mind, Neiman?  Your attempts to create a dichotomy between telling the truth(in your words, an “accountant mentality”, although you just made that up) is misguided.  Again with the dialectic.  I’m making no excuses, so you are just wrong.  Correctly analyzing the present situation is the first step to fixing it.
            You lie; I have never supported having anyone die; in fact, I have spoken against obamacare’s death panels.  Don’t put your negative, hateful fantasies on me; they’re all yours, and you’re welcome to them.  I prefer to be positive and victorious, not negative and defeatist.
            If you think you have a better way, then show it, and stop backstabbing conservatives who are trying to rescue this country from the clutches of obamunism.
            I never bought GW’s “compassionate conservatism”, either; conservatives are compassionate by nature; it’s the liberals who are the vultures, ready to tear the heart out of anyone who doesn’t bow down to their ideology.  Don’t be the same way, Neiman.

          • Neiman

            As I said, trying to communicate with you is spitting into the wind, never producing any positive results.

            I have tried to pursue conservative victory by not repeating our past failed communications, but I’ll let it be and conservatism will never succeed. You want to know why? Of course you don’t! Most Americans, Left and Right and Independents have a heart and they want to feel the government is about doing good for those in need and conservatives always blow it by refusing to talk about real people in real ways.

            This ends it, I knew I was talking to a brick wall!

          • robert108

            All you’re doing is what you wrongly assigned to me: you’re not listening, and blaming me for your behavior.  You are what you project on others here, Neiman.

          • Neiman

            It is over, I tried as usual to appeal to the better angels of your nature on this issue and was disappointed. I will not prolong this and allow it to descend into acrimonious debate. I have stated my position, you eject it, end of story.

          • robert108

            What you have done is to make erroneous assumptions about what I believe and support, exactly as port does when he has no facts.  The acrimony is all yours.  You falsely accused me of many things, for which you have absolutely no evidence, as I am a firm supporter of Ryan and his plan.  I might even want a more fiscally responsible plan, but recognize it as a step in the right direction.

          • Neiman

            I have said what I have said, I have appealed in vain to the better angels of your nature and failed, I will not allow you to drag me into a knock down dragged out fight with you for your evening entertainment.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Old Pal, having trouble with your pal, Big 180 McCain voter?

          • Neiman

            Go back to your father in hell, I am not interested. 108 and I are engaged in a spirited debate, not being enemies or having any anger or acrimony. Your lies about him are wasted.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Old Pal, it was hot out where my Father lives today, but it’s not hell.

          • Neiman

            Jesus tells us that all outside of Him, not Born Again of His Spirit, and you admit you are not a Christian, are children of the Devil, citizens of hell. So, I’ll believe what He says about you and of course your constant lying spirit testifies that you are a child of hell, as the Prince thereof is the father of all liars.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            So Old Pal, all Jews who don’t believe in your Jesus are children of the Devil?
            Bibi is a child of the Devil?

            No wonder you support him so strongly.

          • Neiman

            Since you archive my every comment and post, please do what you are best at, copy and paste my strong spiritual support for the Prime Minister. Why don’t you worry more about your being outside Christ and self condemned, it is your lost soul that should be your greatest concern.

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Well Old Pal, I don’t archive you every comment and post but I have noticed your hypocrisy from time time.
            Why do you proclaim to the world your strong spiritual support to a, as you call it, child of the Devil?

          • 2hotel9

            And you have lost here, too. Go ahead, c*nt. Prove it to everyone by posting another comment. I order you to, c*nt.

          • 2hotel9

            And you have lost here, too. Go ahead, c*nt. Prove it to everyone by posting another comment. I order you to, c*nt.

          • robert108

            Is your life really that empty, drama queen?  Do you have a point? Can you state it simply and make an affirmative argument for it?  Or are you just sniping, as always?

          • 2hotel9

            And you have lost here, too. Go ahead, c*nt. Prove it to everyone by posting another comment. I order you to, c*nt.

          • ellinas1

            You may want to bring as an example that when Republicans and conservatives suggested cuts in the California budget, the first thing they went after was the money allocated for the mentally ill, the infirm, and the mentally disabled children.
            That’s what the cowards agreed to cut with the blessings of two republican governors. Pete Wilson and Arnold Schwarzenegger.

          • Neiman

            No, I will not participate in your lies!

          • ellinas1
          • Neiman

            No, I will not participate in your lies! You know you are lying by not presenting all the facts.

          • robert108

            You lie, as usual; they went after the insane Dem political spending, foremost of which is the bloated public employee union wages, benefits and pensions.

          • ellinas1
          • robert108

            One lying leftie quotes other lying lefties.  Public emoployee unions and their circle of corruption with the Dems is the cause of the problem, along with Dem obstructions to business, like domestic oil drilling.  Moonbeam isn’t addressing any of that. The Dems obstructed any real reform, as always.

          • ellinas1

            Wingnuts (con-nuts and religionuts) cost $0.99 per ton here on SAB blog.

          • 2hotel9

            And you have lost here, too. Go ahead, c*nt. Prove it to everyone by posting another comment. I order you to, c*nt.

          • 2hotel9

            And you have lost here, too. Go ahead, c*nt. Prove it to everyone by posting another comment. I order you to, c*nt.

          • ellinas1

            Wingnuts (con-nuts and religionuts) cost
            $0.99 per ton here on SAB blog.

          • 2hotel9

            And you have lost here, too. Go ahead, c*nt. Prove it to everyone by
            posting another comment. I order you to, c*nt.
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          • robert108

            I’m as much of an uncompromising American conservative(but I repeat myself) as you are an uncompromising Evangelical.  You get savaged here for honestly and truthfully stating your experiences of God, and you don’t try to repackage it to appeal to unbelievers.  Think about it, Neiman.

          • robert108

            Here’s an injection of truth for you, Neiman:

            http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2011-06-29.html

          • Neiman

            Why is it wrong not to repackage conservatism, but to speak about its positive impact on everyone, including the poor and those in need, so that people can look beyond the balance sheets and see that conservatism is human, the best hope for this country? Anyway, I like the Ryan approach and if conservatives had stood foursquare behind him and fought with and for him, I think he offered a winning strategy for the country and one that if passionately supported by conservatives would have won over conservative Democrats and many Independents.

            I don’t think it is dishonest, a con job or fake, but I do think failing to show conservatism’s human face is a losing strategy.

          • robert108

            I don’t think conservatism has to be “repackaged”, just as you don’t think your Evangelical beliefs need to be “repackaged” because hate-filled Christian bigots spew hate at you.  Are you being insensitive to them?
            This conservative has stood behind Ryan all the way, so you accuse me falsely.  I still think Ryan’s plan is a winning strategy, and we just have to persevere with it, rather than folding up in defeat.
            I do represent conservatism’s human face(what other face is there?), and I object to your port-type smears of me.

          • Grizzler

            Big ol’ 108 and the name calling jesus freak going at it. This is great!  Its like two downs children fighting over french fries. I love it! haha harhar  haha   Now neither one of you have a friend in the world. Thats just funny to me.  Reminds me of this:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIUoLXZ_w8c

            or this:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1ujixYyx1A

            or this:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcJqta2l5_g

            hahaha haha hahaha haha haha

          • robert108

            So, you hate downs children, sockpuppet?  What a guy!  Thanks for sharing your videos, but I don’t care about your emotional problems.

          • Grizzler

            Unlike you and the name calling jesus freak, I do not hate, I laugh. When I see something funny, I laugh. You and the name calling jesus freak are very funny people, so I laugh at you. Hate has nothing to do with it. Put your oxygen tube back in and try breathing deeply.
             Maybe you can reconcile with the name calling jesus freak and you will both once again be together, the geriatric versions of dylan and cleybold, except way more impotent.
             haha harharhar haha!!! You ALWAYS take the bait! lol  lol  lol haha lol

          • robert108

            Lying and denying.  Your toxic hate is obvious, sockpuppet.

          • Grizzler

            Big ol’ 108, always predictable! haha haha Thanks for taking the bait once again! Did you put your oxygen tube back in? More oxygen means less confusion….though in your case it might make you worse.  

    • Wayne

      It’s the dimocrats, with the aid of the MBM, that always get to frame the argument and define what conservatives stand for.  Please pay attention.

      • Wayne

        The frustrating thing is that conservatives seem to be reluctant to fight back.

      • Neiman

        I pay more attention than you do, you a person that wants to blame everyone else for his failure, versus examining what we are doing, then do it better and change to a winning formula. If we fail junior, it is not the Democrats fault, it is not Obama’s fault, it is not the fault of thee MSM or conservative values; it is our fault, we refused to look inward critically, to make necessary changes in how we comunicate and then gain the victory. We will cave in to the Left in the Budget talks, because we are not waging war against Liberalism, we are not on television even now (tonight), all over America casting our conservative principles in human terms, no we just talk numbers, numbers, numbers until everyone’s eyes glaze over and the Left gets through with their message about the meany Republicans.

        No it is much better your way, much easier, much less work -> just blame everyone else boo hoo hoo!

        • Wayne

          Now you’re talking about stuff you know nothing about.  How do you know you pay more attention than me?  What “failure” are you talking about?  You are wrong and insulting me.  I’m saying republicans have to do better.  Fight back.  How exactly is what you’re doing any different?  And remember the media does everything in their power to frame our message and not let the truth get out or the message get out in a way that people can relate.  I’m sure there are many conservatives out there trying to get the message out but they’re swimming upstream, or trying to jump the dam.  The world would be much different without the biased media.  That is a fact.  It is not “blaming (sic) everyone else for (my) failure”.  Please don’t pretend to know me.  You don’t.

          • Neiman

            You accused me of not paying attention at all, have I no right to respond and disagree?

            I can only try and understand you by your words and I gave you my honest assessment. I understand that you don’t like it!

            The failure is in conservatives getting their message out in a way that overcomes the media, Obama, liberals and whomever else; it is no one else’s fault, it is our fault, your fault, conservatism’s fault and that is what I am fighting against, the blame everyone else game, instead of accepting the fact we all have failed, we do not want to look at how we are communicating our message, just complain when we fail.

          • Wayne

            You can disagree but you don’t have to be a jerk about it.  If you are talking about the “failure” of conservatives to get their message out, don’t talk about my “failure”.  And you don’t have to insult me.  The reason I don’t like your “honest assessment” is because you are insulting me and you are being a real jerk about it.  You can do better in getting your point across.  Especially with people that essentially agree with you.  There are enough jerks on this site without you joining in.

          • robert108

            With some people here, the need to generalize gets out of hand.

          • Wayne

            You’re a good one to be giving advise to others about getting their message out.

  • mickey_moussaoui

    Somewhere out there are idiots who will vote for Obama simply because of his class war rhetoric. Sooner or later he will have to held accountable for the damage to the economy that he has caused.

    • awfulorv

      They highest per cent will vote for him because they’re the same skin color.  And what do they call those of us, who merely observe, and comment on, such outrages?  Why racists, of course. 

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com bikebubba

    Democrats are for children….OK, so that explains why Dear Leader works so hard to keep children stuck in failing government schools, provides incentives for divorce and unwed parenthood, and promotes abortion at every turn.

    How’s that Democratic love working out for ya, kids?

  • awfulorv

    Obama is for Black and Hispanic children because he knows he owns their parents votes, even the illegal ones.  They also go to public schools, which, again, benefits those other favorites of his, the Teachers, and their Unions. He gives a crap about the white, home schooling parents.   Matter of fact he has his henchmen throw obstacles in their paths. This is the most racist ,and ignorant, president that other ignorant and racist group, the Liberals, could have elected, other than Alfred E. Neuman, that is.

  • mickey_moussaoui

    This whole corporate jet argument is just another example of Obama’s unserious answers to important issues. Even if you totally wiped out all tax breaks for all corporate aircraft it wouldn’t cover one month of additional federal spending approved by Obama. This is just more diversion by the BS king POTUS to stir up class war and get the dirtbags all excited

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