Obama Administration Orders Halt To Some Cooperation With Arizona Officials On Illegal Immigration Arrests

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If any sentence in today’s Supreme Court ruling on Arizona’s immigration laws could sum up where we are a on thie issue it’s this one from Justice Kennedy’s opinion: “Arizona may have under­ standable frustrations with the problems caused by illegal immigration while that process continues, but the State may not pursue policies that undermine federal law.”

This is an acknowledgement by the court that the federal government’s lax enforcement of immigration law is a problem, but a recognition that Arizona cannot simply take matters into their own hand.

Keep that in mind as you read this article about the Obama administration reacting to the ruling by halting some cooperation on illegal immigration enforcement with Arizona officials:

The Obama administration said Monday it is suspending existing agreements with Arizona police over enforcement of federal immigration laws, and said it has issued a directive telling federal authorities to decline many of the calls reporting illegal immigrants that the Homeland Security Department may get from Arizona police.

Administration officials, speaking on condition they not be named, told reporters they expect to see an increase in the number of calls they get from Arizona police — but that won’t change President Obama’s decision to limit whom the government actually tries to detain and deport.

“We will not be issuing detainers on individuals unless they clearly meet our defined priorities,” one official said in a telephone briefing.

The impetus for Arizona’s illegal immigration law is the federal government’s unwillingness to protect the state from the illegal immigration problem. The Obama administration is seeking to compound that problem by ordering federal officials be even less cooperative with the state on enforcement.

That’s good election year politics for the President, maybe, as it will placate his leftist base, but it’s a troubling decision from a leader whose job is, by definition, executing the law.

The federal government’s laws on illegal immigration are clear. It’s a troubling development for the rule of law to have a leader who will only enforce it selectively, hinging on which is most politically convenient.

Wherever you may stand on this issue, President Obama needs to be removed for the sake of the rule of law if nothing else.

Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • Matthew

    All the administration said here is they are going to stick to the established priorities on who to detain and deport.

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      No, read it again, that’s not all they did.

    • Vazir_Mukhtar

      “We will not be issuing detainers on individuals unless they clearly meet our defined priorities,” one official said in a telephone briefing.

      So tell law enforcement entities of the state of Arizona and the public what those defined priorities are.

      Really, that’s not so much to ask: what you think your job description says. How can we “trust, but verify” if we don’t know what you’re supposed to be doing, eh?

      And will we ever find a reporter willing to lose her/his job by revealing the name of the ever-willing-to-talk anonymous official? BTW, how do you get a job as someone who gets to talk off the record or on background?

      • ellinas1

        Hassiktir  piç .

        • two_amber_lamps

           Yes, you are.

          • ellinas1

            Do you know what it means?

          • two_amber_lamps

            Oh no… no idea whatsoever… no clue that you were insulting the original poster but didn’t even have the balls to do it in english since you like to pretend to wax “profound” when you churlishly chide people in other guttural languages.  Nonetheless, we all know you for the despicable pederast you are.  No worries…   coward.

          • ellinas1

            Amber little girl. Your concern about me possibly insulting someone is very touching.
            Your kindness, love, sensitivity,respect and tenderness toward others brought tears to my eyes.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Lol…  such an interesting deplorable combination….  pederast AND faggot!! 

            One, two, three four, who chugs $%$# just like a whore?  Hurray Ellinasty!

          • ellinas1

            I cannot argue with the opinions of crazy right wing nuts.

          • two_amber_lamps

             Correction, you cannot argue with FACT, pedogreekling.

        • Onslaught1066

           sübyancı

          • ellinas1

            Hello Joe!
            How are you today?

          • two_amber_lamps

            How cute!  You don’t even bother to deny the truth Pedo-greek…. 

          • ellinas1

            You never deny our trysts, why should I deny the truth my sweet assed  Amber. Especially after last night…..

          • two_amber_lamps

            Oh silly pedogreekling…  as has been proven time and again your lie like a sübyancı.  When will you learn that EVERYONE here worth mention (even your Choom Gang buddies) agree that you’re as morally bankrupt as your home town of Stockton is broke. 

            There’s no point in denying any of your idiocy because you have zero credibility to begin with.

            No hard feeling though, I found you a Turkish proverb that you will certainly find to be true in your twisted little mind….

            Adam adama gerek olur.

          • ellinas1

            You did not deny our tryst.
            Why not?

            Adam adama gerek olur is a turkish proverb that means: People will always need each other.
            Your point being?

          • two_amber_lamps

            The literal translation little gay-fag… not the idiomatic translation. 

            Though in your case it would be something like “man needs little boys.” 

            Your moral bankruptcy is matched only by that of the fiscal bankruptcy of your native Stockton, Comrade Stockton Sodomite…  LOL!!! 

            :DDDD

          • ellinas1

            Amber baby.
            You are a crazy wingnut, who has not denied her love for me.

          • two_amber_lamps

            What’s to deny?  You only target children…  you sick f#$%$k… lol!

          • ellinas1

            Evet, Mehmet efendi. Evet olduğunu olan sen.

          • Onslaught1066

             Ellin-A$ $ souhaite inviter tous les garçons de 12 ans pour profiter de pédérastie grecque dans son sous-sol

          • ellinas1

            Evet, Mehmet efendi. Evet olduğunu olan sen.

          • Onslaught1066

             Ellin-A$ $ souhaite inviter tous les garçons de 12 ans pour profiter de pédérastie grecque dans son sous-sol

  • Random Passerby

    the Established Priority is called the law. Something administrations tend to have….memory issues with, shall we say.

    This is a serious case of sour grapes. This would have happened if there was anything but a complete repudiation of the state law by the SCOTUS.

    Since Arizona was able to keep the core of its state law intact, the Feds have said they are not going to cooperate with the state by simply not answering the phone when it comes to following up on illegal status identification checks.

    This is purely retaliatory because it is only happening to states that dared to do something about immigration based crimes (note there are laws on how to enter the USA legally, hence if not followed are a legal violation, and thusly are illegal).

    States that do not have state level immigration laws are still receiving the full cooperation of the INS/Border patrol.
    Were it applied to all states, then I could by the ‘priorities’ arguement. (although I can buy the priorities arguement on the grounds that their priority is getting someone re-elected)

    • Random Passerby

      ..Full cooperation of ICE…etc

      I have acronym failure today it seems.

    • Vazir_Mukhtar

      What do the feds do when their caller ID shows “caller not identified”? Assume the call is from Arizona?

      Perhaps a member or members of the Arizona congressional delegation would be willing to have calls routed through a staff member in one of their offices.

      There’s a way around Secretary Napolitano; Arizonans just need to find it.

  • Game

    Not to let
    the facts get in the way of your conservative talking point, But the Obama admiration
    has deported more people per year than any administration in history. Last
    year, it was an all-time record high of 392,826.

    The point is
    not if the Obama administration is doing enough. It never has been. It is about
    finding a way to suppress the immigration of Spanish speaking people into
    Arizona. The far right will not be happy until government thugs bust into homes
    and rip families apart for not showing the correct paperwork

    But hey, how
    about a lecture about how the GOP supports family values and limited government
    interference in the lives of the individual. .

    • Bat One

      Not to let facts get in the way of your anti-law enforcement, deportation talking points, but please explain by what constitutional, legislative, or case law authority does a president gets to pick and choose which laws are to enforced or which states are to be cooperated with?   And when Congress, elected by the people, declines to pass parts of his pet legislative agenda (the “DREAM” Act) by what authority does he decide to implement that legislation by executive fiat?  Where is the president given the authority to write and implement his own legislation as only he sees fit, or decide what laws, or federal court orders. are valid and which ones he can choose to disregard, all for the sake of buying votes?

      Those of you on the Left screamed bloody murder at President George W. Bush for supposedly upsetting the constitutional balance of power between the branches of government and “usurping for the Executive branch” power that was rightly that of the legislature.  And of course you were wrong in that assessment.  But this failed amateur, Obama, goes well beyond any power grab that Mr. Bush ever thought of, and partisan hacks like you are all too willing to spout whatever trivial excuses you can think of to rationalize Obama’s unconstitutional arrogance.

      No, you don’t get the lecture about family values, which is nicely irrelevant anyway.  You get the one about blatant, in-your-face, unconstitutional Leftwing hypocrisy instead!

      • Game

        Every law enforcement agency in the country sets enforcement priorities. All agencies are limited by budgets as well as public pressure to enforce some laws over others. For example, public drunkenness is illegal in most area’s. If law enforcement wanted to, they could go into any bar on any night and arrest people for public drunkenness. However, that would not be a good use of law enforcement  time resources.
        I really don’t think you are ignorant enough to think that all laws are always enforced exactly the same in all situations. I just think you are being sucked into an fox news anti-President talking point.
        Using the federal resources every time Sheriff Joe from AZ wants to get a speaking engagement or book deal is not a good use of public resources. He does not get to tell the executive branch how to spend their time and resources. Never has, never will, and the Supreme Court agrees with me.
         According the US Constitution, the President is responsible for setting priorities of  Executive Branch. Federal Law Enforcement is part of the Executive branch. Your examples of the Bush Administration not enforcing gun laws and pollution controls actually happened. It sucked, but elections have consequences.
        In regards to the DREAM act, I the President has the constitutional right to pardon every child in the country who risks deportation because of the actions of their parents. If Congress does not act soon, I hope he does take advantage of the fiat of power he is given.
         

        • Bat One

          If the sheer witless stupidity of your answer wasn’t so frightfully common, I’d ignore it, or at worst laugh it off.  The problem is there are more than a handful of simpletons who’d believe what your said here.

          First, to talk about prioritization and budgets might work at the state level, but this is the federal government…with apparently unlimited resources… the very same Obama regime that has wracked up nearly $6 trillion in debt in just short of 4 years, and projected $1 trillion deficits (new debt!) as far as the eye can see.  To intimate that Obama’s actions here are budget priority related is moronic in the extreme.  And of course, not even the Obama White House has been fool enough to make that suggestion.

          As for pardons, yes the Constitution confers that authority.  But Obama has not claimed to be issuing pardons, has he?  And those 800,000 too 900,000 he arbitrarily (and politically) decided to excuse from federal law, haven’t yet been convicted of anything, have they?

          I’ve asked for a constitutional, legislative, or case law source for the authority Obama is implicitly claiming to have in dealing with the immigration question and today’s defeat in the Supreme Court.  What you’ve offered in reply is, charitably, horse manure.

          • Game

            Bat One Ignorant Point 1: “As for pardons, yes the Constitution confers that authority. But Obama has not claimed to be issuing pardons, has he?”

            First off, I said that if Congress does not pass the Dream Act, the POTUS has the power to pardon. I said he should. I never said he has claimed to be issuing pardons.

            Next, conviction has nothing to do with pardons. Read Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution. The President can pardon anybody for any crime or suspected crime.

            Bat One Ignorant Point 2:  “First, to talk about prioritization and budgets might work at the state level, but this is the federal government…with apparently unlimited resources… ”

            The DOJ Budget has went down by over a billion dollars since 2008. You are trying to say that because the deficit is up, then all government agencies spending is up. You are confusing spending with deficits and completely ignoring congressional allocations.  Deficits are spending  and costs minus income. The rising cost of deficits is way more than spending. It includes interest on the national debt and lack of tax revenues due to the recession. 

          • Bat One

            Nice prattle!  Irrelevant… but if its the best you can do, it is what it is..

            Now, to get back to main point here, how about the constitutional, legislative, or case law authority for the illegal actions Obama has taken regarding illegal immigration?  Got any sort authoritative answer to back up the Amateur’s disregard for the law in his quest for reelection?  Or are you gonna try to change the subject again?

      • Matthewthawkinss

        It’s called prosecutorial discretion.

        There are12M illegals in the US. Are you willing to give him the budget to deport all of them? If not, shouldn’t he have priorities?

        Or do you just want to build the mythical wall and have talking points.

        • Bat One

          Your answer is no better, Matthew.  And you know it!  Directing the federal government to ignore federal law – and for obvious partisan purposes – is not remotely akin to deciding to charge someone with either murder two, manslaughter, or justifiable homicide.

          I expected a more worthy, more intelligent response from you than this .

        • two_amber_lamps

           Lol… is that what the government told you?  Or the leftist media?  12M illegals eh?

          If you believe that to be the actually number of illegal immigrants residing here in the US… lol….  let’s all welcome the newest member of the Choom Gang….

          http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/douggells/Album%20II/obamaweed-1.jpg

          • ellinas1

            The 12 million are an estimate.
            What is your estimate?

          • two_amber_lamps

            I would estimate you’ve molested at least that number of children.  Care to tell us exactly how many kids lives you’ve ruined over your career of pederasty?

        • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

           “prosecutorial discretion” And age discrimination is inherent to prosecutorial discretion? Whoda thunk it?

    • Vazir_Mukhtar

      Count me among those who detest and will do all they can to prevent harassing Latinos. Count me, also, among those who equally detest selective enforcement of the law because it doesn’t happen to fit the president’s politics.

      Given his actions to the contrary, President Obama would do well to remember the words of Theodore Roosevelt: “No man is above the law and no man is below it: nor do we
      ask any man’s permission when we ask him to obey it.”

      • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com Goon

         The Latino vote is what the Dems are trying to get because they need to illegals to help Barry O get re-elected.

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          Interesting “conclusion”, Goon.  What percentage of the vote do you think is cast by illegals?

          Please don’t let your cowardliness get in the way of paranoid delusions. I would really like to hear your answer.

          • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com Goon

             I think in corrupt Democratic strong holds I think the number is very high. I would be willing to bet that hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens vote in many northeastern states as well as in California. Heck hundreds of thousands of dead Chicagoans vote every election.

          • ellinas1

            “Heck hundreds of thousands of dead Chicagoans vote every election.”
            Damn! How do you know this?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Heck hundreds of thousands of dead Chicagoans vote every election.

            Interesting.  Got any evidence to support that claim?

          • LenYol

             http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/14/us/politics/us-voter-registration-rolls-are-in-disarray-pew-report-finds.html?_r=1&scp=3&sq=dead%20people&st=cse

          • two_amber_lamps

            Mr. LenYol….  we shall have none of that (ie “TRUTH”) here.  It appals leftist sensibilities…

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Those are voter rolls, not evidence dead people had voted, or that there was voter fraud.  The last time that was investigated it turned out to be a farce.

          • Tina

             There’s a reason Holder is trying to stop the purging of the dead and non citizens from voter rolls.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Just because you’re paranoid, it doesn’t mean people who are walking behind you down the street, and in broad daylight, aren’t trying to kill you with a plastic fork.

          • two_amber_lamps

            No, a plastic fork is what Hanni-turd would use to kill someone since he’s fearful of guns and his state politicians have made it onerous to obtain one, much to Hanny’s delight.

          • Awfulorv

            The air flowing over, and providing lift to a bird, or a planes wing, is invisible, and yet you can be certain it is there. 

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

             Just because you are paranoid, doesn’t mean someone isn’t chasing you, right?

          • Awfulorv

            Is it further to Bismarck, or by bus? Makes as much sense as your above words, and it was meant to be nonsense. Go to beach, lie on coral, let waves massage your back, and infect same. cheers…

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Keep walking down the street and looking over your shoulder, Orv.  Someone is bound to be chasing you with a plastic spork, someday. And when that day comes, you can tell us you told us so.

            Until then, I’m just going to laugh my ass of at you.

    • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

       Bravo!  Dead center, 10 ring.

      • two_amber_lamps

        Hey King Choom… shouldn’t you lefties be using your own vernacular?

        Like bogus, hang-ten, 4:20….  or whatever you pot-heads talk amongst yourselves with. 

        Lol… in HI you have to beg for a permit to own any firearm?  Mother may I?

        Reference §HRS 134-2

        No person shall acquire the ownership of a firearm, whether usable or unusable, serviceable or unserviceable, modern or antique, registered under prior law or by prior owner or unregistered, either by purchase, gift, inheritance, bequest, or in any other manner, whether procured in the state or imported by mail, until the person has first procured from the chief of police of the county that the person is in, a permit to acquire the ownership of a firearm as prescribed in this section.

        Hell, you losers can’t even own autos, SBR’s, suppressors, AR pistols… 

        Do you even know what a 10-ring is?? 

        No wonder the 2nd Amendment means nothing to you…  ya’ll forwent your rights to defend yourself w/o onerous bureaucracy long ago. 

        Silly leftist twits.

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          Did you stop drinking long enough to attempt to say something?

          Hawaii has a very low murder rate (it’s in the bottom 10) even though
          it’s a minority white state. But Hawaii is only 1% black and 9%
          Hispanic. The “minorities” who live there are not a violent lot.

          http://www.halfsigma.com/2011/03/murder-rates-by-state.html

          • Bat One

            Interesting.  By your own statistics it would appear there is a relationship between Hawaii’s low percentage of Blacks and its equally low murder rate.

            By comparison, in Chicago, which Wikipedia variously quotes the 2010 census as being either 32.9% Black or 36.8% Black (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Chicago), Black on Black crime has skyrocketed out of control to the point where the city averages more than one murdered Black child/youth per day.

            So, you’re implying that Blacks are more inclined to violence and murder than other racial/demographic groups?  ‘Cause that’s the sort of suggestion that could lose you your DNC/Progressive race-bailing merit badge and de-coder ring. Of course, spin aside, Hawaii’s statistics are what they are.  But honesty about matters racial ain’t exactly your strong suit either.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Oh I don’t think he’ll lose his decoder ring for the fact that he just outed himself as a bigot, his leftist herd will merely banish him for ADMITTING his racism.  After all the Democratic Party is the OPR!  (Original Party of Racism!)

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Um, I copied and pasted from a conservative site.  Thanks for admitting their racist.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Silly troll, I don’t have time to research your references for you or guess your “intent” or lack thereof.

            You used it…   YOU OWN IT!  Lol!

          • Bat One

            Thanks for admitting their [sic] racist.

            You’re the one who made the correlation… and got caught at it!

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            No, I didn’t.  I posted the comments from a conservative.

          • Spartacus

             If you’re not lying about where you claim to have copied it from you shouldn’t have any problem linking the comment. That’s what it’s going to take given your credibility.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            The link is there, dumbass.

            And you’re the last person to question anyone’s credibility, misogynist.

          • Bat One

            Typical!  Blame someone else.

          • Spartacus

            As I said, you’ve got no credibility. You’ve linked a blog post, not the comment as you claimed above.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You’ve linked a blog post, not the comment as you claimed above.

            It’s the 10th paragraph in the body of the link I posted, idiot.

            I can’t help it if you are too stupid to know how to click a link and read a story.

          • two_amber_lamps

            We have neither the time nor the inclination to guess what your intent is or find the trash you use to support your untenable positions.  STFU and own what you say you bigoted coward… 

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            There’s also a low percentage of whites, maybe that’s the secret to low murder rates, eh? Then again, maybe it’s our gun laws? Stop blaming blacks, Bat.

          • Bat One

            But then you haven’t explained the black-on-black murder rates in Chicago, Baltimore, Oakland, etc, have you?  

            And, yes, I am “blaming blacks.”  And rightly so!   As Are the mayor of Chicago (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30/chicago-murder-rate-up-35_n_1392494.html), Black, liberal commentator Juan Williams (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303404704577307613183789698.html), and most importantly those in the communities effected by the out of control killings of Blacks by Blacks (http://www.chicagoreporter.com/news/2012/01/more-young-people-are-killed-chicago-any-other-american-city).

            Perhaps you should get your self-righteous head out of your race-baiting ass, and take a look around to see just what reality looks like!

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            If you want to start another subject bashing blacks, without going into the socioeconomic issues, start your own post and blog.

            I was answering the insult that Hawaii has gun laws.  Looks like that’s a good thing for us.

          • Onslaught1066

             The only insult to Hawaii is you.

            And we already have an answer to that insult… It’s called drowning.

            Now run off to the deep end lil feller.

          • Bat One

            I’d love to hear about your so-called “socio-economic issues” that result in out of control Black on Black murder in urban areas.  That’s got to be the mother of all liberal excuses for bad behavior.  Why don’t you  get a Reader’s Blog and write about it?  Or is our host disinclined to allow you one?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            So your contention is that blacks murder blacks because they are black?  And you wish for people to stop calling you a racist?

            Hilarious.

          • Bat One

            Stop lying!  I’ve made no such “contention.”  All I’ve done is point out that you posted a correlation between Hawaii’s low murder rate and its low percent of Black population.

            And of course if there is no such correlation, why did you post it, and why are you trying to blame the “conservative site” from which you took it?

            Sorry, but you can’t deny what you’ve posted when its out there for everyone to read.  And you can’t hang the blame for what YOU chose to post on somebody else, while at the same time denying that it means what it says.  Can’t have it both ways.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

             

            “Accusations of lying is what he does when confronted with reality which is beyond his limited comprehension.  The tactic is similar to that used by seven year-olds and hysterical women.” – Bat One

            4 days ago in reply to Proof

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

             

            Less than a week after Chicago’s first murder- and shooting-free day in nearly a year,
            the city’s mayor and police superintendent announced a
            violence-reduction initiative that targets two districts they say host a
            disproportionate amount of violent crimes.

            Although Chicago’s murder rate is the lowest it’s been in more than 40 years,
            Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy says homicides were up
            about 25 percent during the last four months of 2011, particularly in
            Englewood and Harrison police districts, two of the city’s most
            dangerous areas when examining violent crime rates, according to ABC
            Chicago.

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30/chicago-murder-rate-up-35_n_1392494.html

          • Bat One

            So what is you point exactly? That the Emanuel administration is rearranging the lawn chairs out in front of the dilapidated brownstones? BFD!

            http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-04-12/news/ct-met-chicago-homicides-soar-20120412_1_nonfatal-shootings-chicago-homicides-chicago-lawn

            Homicides in Chicago soared by 60 percent
            in the first three months of 2012, continuing a troublesome trend that began
            late last year. Nonfatal shootings also rose sharply in the first quarter, Police
            Department statistics show. The worsening violence comes as the Emanuel
            administration touts its efforts to combat gang crime and add officers and
            resources to some of the city’s most dangerous neighborhoods…

             

            Crime in every other major category fell,
            including a 15 percent drop in sexual assaults and a 10 percent decline in
            burglaries. Overall crime dropped 10 percent citywide, according to the
            department.

             

            To combat violence in two of Chicago’s most
            violent neighborhoods, McCarthy saturated “conflict zones” in the
            Englewood and Harrison police districts with additional officers early this
            year as a long-term strategy.

             

            But the early results appear mixed. Through
            April 1, homicides fell to six in the Harrison District on the West Side, down
            from nine a year earlier. But killings almost doubled in the Englewood District
            on the South Side, jumping to 15 from eight. Nonfatal shootings rose sharply in
            both districts, however.

            Homicides were also up sharply in the Ogden and Chicago Lawn
            police districts, the statistics show.

            In mid-January, McCarthy trumpeted that Chicago had gone 24
            hours without a single homicide or shooting. But by near the end of the month,
            killings had risen 54 percent. At the time, McCarthy expressed confidence that
            homicides would go down when shootings fell. At that point, the number of
            shootings was the same as in 2011. But since the beginning of 2012, nonfatal
            shootings have risen by more than a third.

             

            FYI: The Ogden, Chicago Lawn, Englewood and Harrison districts
            are all considered to be “minority neighborhoods” (i.e. majority African
            American or Hispanic) according to the ACLU .

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            So what’s your point exactly, that blacks are murdering blacks because their black??

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

             “Why don’t you  get a Reader’s Blog and write about it?” Don’t hold your breath, B-1. Fortunately for the readers of Rob’s blog, Hanni hasn’t a sufficient number of functioning brain cells, a rudimentary knowledge of the English language, an original thought, nor the balls to back it up if he did.

            That saves us from having to skip over an enormous amount of tripe, fantasies and outright lies.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            “But then you haven’t explained the black-on-black murder rates in Chicago, Baltimore, Oakland, etc, have you?  

            And, yes, I am “blaming blacks.”  And rightly so! ” – Bat One

            “I’ve made no such “contention.”  All I’ve done is point out that you posted a correlation between Hawaii’s low murder rate and its low percent of Black population.” – Bat One

            Stop lying!  You clearly made the contention on your own, stating as such in your own words, on several occasions.

            “By your own statistics it would appear there is a relationship between Hawaii’s low percentage of Blacks and its equally low murder rate”. – Bat One

            I personally made no such conclusion.  I merely quoted a conservative, who also happened to point out the low percentage of whites in Hawaii.  I stated that someone could just as easily conclude that fewer whites means less violent crime and murder.  You then said you rightly blamed blacks and chose to look at the data through your own eyes.

            If you want to know my opinion, just ask.  I’d be happy to tell you what I think.

          • Bat One

            I personally made no such conclusion.

            Sure you did.  Trying to blame others for your own racist choice of what to post will only get you more derision.   You posted it, you own it! 

            Hawaii has a very low murder rate (it’s in the bottom 10) even though it’s a minority white state. But Hawaii is only 1% black and 9% Hispanic.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Sorry, but to me that statistic means that if there were more blacks and Hispanics in Hawaii, there would be even less murder.

            Your stated conclusions are your own.

            If you want my opinion, why not ask?

          • Bat One

            to me that statistic means that if there were more blacks and Hispanics in Hawaii, there would be even less murder.

            Hmmm! By that “logic” Baltimore, Oakland, and Chicago should be murder free zones, rather than suffering such appallingly high rates of black on black murder.  Right?

            I just love watching you twist and spin… kinda like a horse thief at the end of a hangman’s rope.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You can’t understand what I said because you don’t understand how socioeconomic factors play a role in the black on black crime you keep claiming is the result of people being black.

            There is nothing that I said or cut and pasted that is inconsistent with my previous statements.

            You are the guy who is talking out of both sides of your mouth, and it cracks me up!

            Hahaha!

          • ellinas1

            Deflecting and redirecting again?
            Your teflon coat wore out long time ago.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Bat’s just trying to distract from his previous race-based conclusions.  That’s blatantly obvious!

            He was promoting the idea that blacks murder because they are black, then dismisses any socioeconomic factors that play into gang violence, all while trying to pin his racially biased opinions on me.

            Pathetic.

            I’m always two steps ahead of Bat.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            “And, yes, I am “blaming blacks.”  And rightly so! ” – Bat One

            “…there is a relationship between Hawaii’s low percentage of Blacks and its equally low murder rate”. – Bat One

            These are your conclusions, not mine.

            Stop distracting from your racially based opinions, Bat.

            You said it, you own it!

          • Bat One

            For someone who is so famously unfamiliar with the truth, whose very screen identities – all 15 to 20 of them – are a lie, you are amazingly, stupidly quick to label those who disagree with you as liars.

            You posted the correlation between Hawaii’s low murder rate and a low percent of Blacks in the population.  And regardless of where it came from, YOU chose to post it here.  Man up!

            Who knows.  If you started behaving and posting like an adult, you might just be awarded your very own Reader’s Blog.  Then you could put up your very own post detailing all those “socio-economic” factors that explain (and no doubt excuse) the unconscionable epidemic of Black on Black murder in places like Chicago.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            The information I posted could mean that if there were more blacks and Hispanics the murder rate would decrease further.

            Face it, you drew your own conclusions to support your previously stated opinion.

          • Bat One

            Like Chicago?

            Forget it, little man.  You chose it… you posted it… you own it.

            End of story.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Why do you keep comparing Chicago to Hawaii?  Why not compare the murders in Iran to those in Texas?

            Hawaii enjoys a different reality for a variety of reasons, some of them socioeconomic, some of them cultural.

            The information I provided states clearly that minorities of Hawaii are not violent, so therefore, we need more minorities; more Blacks and more Hispanics to complete our minority melting pot.

            Stop concluding that Blacks murder Blacks because they are black, on your own.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

             http://abagond.wordpress.com/2012/04/19/what-if-blacks-talked-about-black-on-white-murder-the-way-whites-talk-about-slavery/

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Bat’s Flip Flops; backtracking on race-based conclusions:

            “I’d love to hear about your so-called “socio-economic issues” that result
            in out of control Black on Black murder in urban areas.  That’s got to be the mother of all liberal excuses for bad behavior. ” – Bat One

            “I’ve made no such “contention.”  All I’ve done is point out that you posted a correlation between Hawaii’s low murder rate and its low percent of Black population.” – Bat One

            “But then you haven’t explained the black-on-black murder rates in Chicago, Baltimore, Oakland, etc, have you? 

            And, yes, I am “blaming blacks.”  And rightly so! ” – Bat One

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

             

            The “minorities” who live there (in Hawaii) are not a violent lot.

            Hannitized quoting another.

            Minorities are in quotes because they are the majority in Hawaii.  Whites are the minority in our state.

            The statistics I provided suggest that with more ethnic diversity, murder rates drop.  And since Hawaii has only a small percentage of blacks and Hispanics, the murder rate could drop even more by having more ethnic diversity.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Hawaii has a very low murder rate (it’s in the bottom 10) even though it’s a minority white state. But Hawaii is only 1% black and 9% Hispanic. The “minorities” who live there are not a violent lot.

            So based on your own supporting quote you adopt the contention that the “minorities” of HI are sufficiently cowed as to be generally non-violent? Or do you imply that minorities are the root of violence in other states? Inquiring minds want to know!

            Lol…  congratulations!  Once again your blatant racist tendencies are made obvious. 

            Like your terminal stage alcoholic “Choom Gang” buddy Sparkless, you’re so steeped in bigotry and pidgeon-holing people by the color of their skin you’re not even capable of self-examination, you can’t even percieve your own racism, it oozes out of your every pore like the alcohol from Comrade Sparkie and you’re inured to your own hateful stench. 

            Thank you for proving once again that the Democratic Party is the OPR (Original Party of Racism)!! 

            And by the way, you didn’t even address my previous post you statist firearms-phobe…  lol!

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Uhh, try again.  The information provided was from a conservative site, the only kind you trust.  That stench of racism is from one of your own.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Oh backtracking now?  Guess what buddy… you used it, you didn’t disclaim it. 

            THEREFORE YOU OWN IT….

            BIGOT

          • ellinas1

            Ooooh! Little Amber is still projecting more than a 12 screen IMAX theater……poor little girl.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Oh look, the Stockton Sodomite has run out of pithy retorts.  I realise this is difficult for you and English is a second language for you but it’s not our responsibility.  Water-wings won’t save your wretched ass in the deep end.  Just admit you’re over your head.

          • ellinas1

            Ooooh! Little Amber is projecting more than a 12 screen IMAX theater……

          • two_amber_lamps
        • Guest

           Little, short hanni already has his semi automatic weapons. The only question is, who is he planning to kill.

          • ellinas1

            An Ibex.

    • Jfisher17

      “It is about finding a way to suppress the immigration of Sanish speaking people into Arizona.” No, it’s about upholding the law that is supposed to suppress the illegal immigration of Spanish speaking people,or whoever else is trying to enter illegally, into Arizona. You idiot.  

    • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com Goon

      The Obumble administration is fudging the numbers on deportations. http://www.limitstogrowth.org/articles/2011/09/29/obama-admits-his-deportation-numbers-are-deceptive/

      Obama used that chat session to admit that his administration’s
      supposedly high numbers of deportations are “deceptive” because the
      stats count the quickie voluntary repatriations that occur every day on
      the border.

  • Thresherman

    The law is the law and should  be enforced.  I’m sure that all the libs would be howling mad if a GOP president refused to enforce gun control laws or or enviromental laws.  But this president now has doubled down on refusing  to enforce immigration laws and all the left can do marvel at how wonderful he is.

    • Game

      Not to let the facts get in the way of your conservative talking point, But the Obama admiration has deported more people per year than any administration in history. Lastyear, it was an all-time record high of 392,826.

      So in now way have they refused to enforce immigration laws. The have enforced it a record levels.

      Facts….the enmey of the GOP talking point.

  • dirka dirka

    Now that we know that Barry was well indoctrined by his real father, Frank Marshall Davis, a well known Communist from Chicago, you can’t leave anything off the table for the subversion of this country by him. He has no love for this country or our Constitution. All you Obama lovers have been well duped by the Communist Party via the two party  system we have and the media. A charge of treason would be to good for this tyrrant. You could ask the poor citizens in the middle east IF they were still alive. His drone attacks have killed many innocent people, not to speak of the long lasting effects of Depleted Uranium, which also effects our own troops.

  • Bat One

    If the Feds aren’t going to enforce the federal laws which they argued were their sole province, and aren’t going to cooperate with Arizona officials and deport those who should be deported according to federal law, the obvious answer is to turn those arrested over to Sheriff Joe.

  • LastBestHope

    KRAUTHAMMER: Obama administration is “lawless”

  • Bat One

    If you THINK  about it – that clearly excludes most liberals – what Obama has done is provide those who oppose his lawless Imperial Presidency with the very ammunition that will be needed the next time a challenge to the Arizona statute goes to court.  Read Justice Kennedy’s opinion carefully and you’ll see that with today’s refusal to acknowledge and abide by the court’s ruling and Obama’s petty withdrawal of federal support for Arizona, Obama is openly defying what was a unanimous ruling against his administration’s position. 

    Good luck selling that to the moderate and independent voters this November.

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