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Well, NYC can pick and choose which part of the Constitution is more equal than others.  Strange though, if one is talking about guns that somehow the 2nd Amendment should be censored out of the discussion.

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With the Supreme Court ruling the the DC handgun case due within the next 6 weeks or so, and every indication that the Second Amendment will be vigorously upheld, I can’t imagine that Judge Weinstein is so doddered that he would think that a ruling in favor of the City’s motion won’t get shot down on appeal.

I wonder if Michael Bloomberg isn’t maneuvering for a shot as Obama’s VP nominee?

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

I can’t imagine that Judge Weinstein is so doddered that he would think that a ruling in favor of the City’s motion won’t get shot down on appeal.

So, you’re suggesting he keep his powder dry?

Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

B1: I think you wrote the primer on this kind of ruling! Weinstein will probably only be a shell of his former self when he is through!
I think the DC ruling is going to go Number one, with a bullet!

Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

Sorry to provide a break from the puns, but it seems to me that Bloomberg’s trying to get his quote inserted into the definition for “begging the question.” Yeesh.

Proof,

I get a real charge out of this stuff.  And I believe you’re right on target with your assessment of the upcoming DC ruling.  It should trigger a massive reassessment of our gun control laws across the country, including NYC, and those liberals who keep trying to ignore or rationalize away the Second Amendment are going to be positively shell-shocked.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Judge Weinstein might think he’s over a barrel because of this case! It’s by no means a lock!
Bloomberg’s stock could rise with the libs, though!

Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

(Some of B1’s puns are a flash in the pan, though!)

Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

B1: I must be off to the dentist soon,(Hope he doesn’t bust any caps!) so do not doubt the flint of my resolve in answering any puns in my absence. I shall prove a match for you any day!

Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

I think we should keep our sights trained on what goes on his Judge Weinstein’s chamber.  If the DC ruling hits the target sooner than expected there’ll be a whole new round of consultations and motions in the NYC case.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

I wish I could be so sure that the DC case will uphold the Second Amendment. I suspect it will be a mushy decision as the Supremes will want to keep control of every future appeal, which would not be necessary if the decision was clear.

No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Hmmmmm. A suit/trial about firearms and no mention of the 2nd Amendment. I guess Bloomie and his lawyers are thinking themselves above the rest of us??!?!?!
Maybe the trial should be held in Sheridan, Wyoming. Wouldn’t that get Bloomies knickers in a bunch. Not to mention the possibility of an improvised necktie party.

Hmmmm, sounds like Bloomie and his buddies are jumping the gun in this case.

lawyers for Mr. Bloomberg argued that the amendment “was not intended to vest armed power in citizens acting outside of any governmental military effort — either federal or state.”

Why would the 2nd Amendment be the only one in the Bill of Rights that doesn’t apply to individual rights?  No one argues that the freedom of the press is restricted only to newspaper companies and other media outlets.

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Just got back from the dentist...too much elevator music! No Pachelbel’s Canon, no Beatles’ Revolver!
B1: I expected a man of your caliber to fire off a few more in my absence! Personally, I think you have a lot of brass to have done as many as you did! Did someone muzzle you?

Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

A suit/trial about firearms and no mention of the 2nd Amendment. I guess Bloomie and his lawyers are thinking themselves above the rest of us??!?!?!
Maybe the trial should be held in Sheridan, Wyoming. Wouldn’t that get Bloomies knickers in a bunch. Not to mention the possibility of an improvised necktie party.

This is why blue staters don’t trust liberals and people like obama. The second ammendment is a VERY important part of their lives. Bloomberg needs to read the second ammendment.

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Did someone muzzle you?

He was equipped with a silencer.

Something caused him to bolt! I’ve seen wide receivers that didn’t move that fast! (Faster than a safety! -I think I read that in a magazine somewhere!)

Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

How does the rest of New York feel about Bloombergs decision that the bill of rights doesn’t apply to New York? If Bloomberg wants New York to secede, no sweat off my butt, as long as New York gets none of my tax dollars and New York is no longer considered part of the United States.

Bloomberg needs to be careful when it comes to wishing, the I-80 corridor was built to move products from the west to the east, I somehow think New York, New Yorkers won’t find rat-it-2e pleasant when it actually contains rats.

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Lawyers for the gun store say the two hidden cameras brought in by investigators malfunctioned less than halfway into the purchase and fail to show the precautions taken by the sales staff at the store to prevent a straw purchase.

I’m sure NYC’s argument is that the 2nd amendment isn’t relevant to the instant case.  It’d be like a judge precluding a defendant from arguing that the law under which s/he is charged is a bad law.

That’s not a legal argument; it’s nullification.  And judges tend to frown on nullification, IIRC.  If the law is really defective (here, if NYC’s legal theory controverts the 2nd amendment), it’s for an appellate court, and not a jury, to decide.

That’s the argument, at any rate.  If the judge agrees that mention of 2nd amendment is akin to a plea for jury nullification, it wouldn’t surprise me if s/he ruled in NYC’s favor. 

At the same time, I ain’t no trial lawyer, so it shouldn’t surprise anyone else if I’m wrong.

I thought Congress had enacted some legislature to protect gun stores from this type of law suit.  What am I missing?

Being liberal is never having to admit you’re wrong

jpe,

I believe the lawsuit in question is civil, not criminal, and federal not state.  As such, I don’t think jury nullification applies in this case.

I also don’t expect Diane Melnick to represent the defendants.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

I thought Congress had enacted some legislature to protect gun stores from this type of law suit.  What am I missing?

A federal lawsuit was dismissed against gun manufacturers, not the same thing.

They are being sued for knowingly ignoring the background check in federal and state law.  Because we don’t allow firearms to be sold to felons, the 2nd amendment is irrelevant to a trial court.

Should felons be able to purchase guns?

"Should felons be able to purchase guns?”

Depends on the felony.

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Felons aren’t allowed to own a gun…

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2hotel9:  After yet another cop-killing in Philly by three thugs, each with an extensive rap sheet, and armed with a Chinese assault-weapon, I have to say I support no guns for criminal felons. The weapon was purchased at a gun show where minimal documentation was required.

I am 100% behind the 2nd Amendment, but I am also certain that the Framers had no intention of including criminals among “a well-armed militia.”

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THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT TWO THINGS: WINNING THE WAR ON TERRORISM AND SAVING THE SUPREME COURT.

Yes, violent criminals should NOT be legally allowed to purchase firearms. On the obverse, you should go down the list of what is classified as a felony. If you are convicted of the felony of tampering with a “wetland” because you placed topsoil in a low area on your property should you lose your right to keep and bear? The EPA says yes. There are many things you can receive a felony conviction for, and nowhere near all of them involve violent criminal behavior.

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2hotel9:  It’s bureaucratic idiots like EPA who are the best argument for the right to own guns! 

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THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT TWO THINGS: WINNING THE WAR ON TERRORISM AND SAVING THE SUPREME COURT.

As for the Gunshow meme. It is the same as buying from a private individual, a person to person transaction. All licensed gun dealers at gunshows in PA do instacheck, just as the government requires. I believe it is different in Virginia, quite a bit more lax. Same for Alabama and Tejas, also. Docdave and Toot are rather familiar with the regs on gunshows.

Bloomburg and the lawyerscum are merely speaking out of both sides of their mouths in their attempts to abrogate the Constitution. And gun rights are not their primary targets. Not by a long shot.

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Felons like burglars, robbers, muggers, anyone who used a weapon while committing a crime, etc., should be prhibited from owning. That’s understandable. Your cations cause you to forfeit that right.

But non violent offenses like theft, white collar crime, etc., or like the example Hotel just used, shouldn’t cost you that right.

It’s a back door way to crack the Second Amendment.

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