NRA Compared To The Ku Klux Klan By Sports Columnist

Ku-Klux-Klan

Jason Whitlock, who was last seen blaming an NFL football player’s murder/suicide on the existence of guns in our society, wants you to know that the NRA is like the Ku Klux Klan.

On CNN contributor Roland Martin’s podcast posted to his website Monday, Jason Whitlock, the columnist who inspired Bob Costas’ commentary on gun control during halftime of Sunday’s Dallas Cowboys-Philadelphia Eagles game on NBC, revealed his peculiar take on the National Rifle Association (NRA).

Whitlock spoke out against the NFL’s handling of the aftermath of Jovan Belcher’s suicide and gun issues in his Sunday FoxSports.com column. During Martin’s podcast, he likened the NRA to the Ku Klux Klan and tied the group to the dangerous street culture that unfortunately dominates “so many black youths.”

“Sports gets so much attention, and people tune out the real world, that I try to take advantage of the opportunity to talk about the real world when sports lends itself to that and try to open people’s eyes,” Whitlock said.

“You know, I did not go as far as I’d like to go because my thoughts on the NRA and America’s gun culture — I believe the NRA is the new KKK. And that the arming of so many black youths, uh, and loading up our community with drugs, and then just having an open shooting gallery, is the work of people who obviously don’t have our best interests [at heart].”

When “sports journalists” (an oxymoron in most of the instances that term is applied) foray into issues more weighty than games played by grownups we usually get hilarity like this. Whitlock probably doesn’t know this, but gun control laws were actually promoted by the Ku Klux Klan as a way of keeping blacks disarmed and incapable of defending themselves, their families and their property. In fact, the original draft of the federal Anti-Klan Act of 1871 made it illegal to “deprive any citizen of the United States of any arms or weapons he may have in his house or possession for the defense of his person, family, or property.” That part of the law was ultimately deleted as it was seen at the time as federal overreach (a novel concept), but the intent was to protect blacks by extending to them the right to be armed.

The very first gun control law ever enacted in America was in the Virginia colony in 1640 which disallowed blacks, even free blacks, from owning guns.

In the infamous Dred Scott Supreme Court decision, which upheld slavery even in states with laws against it, Chief Justice Roger Taney held that blacks could not be considered citizens because if they were citizens they would have gun rights. “[I]t would give them the full liberty to keep and carry arms wherever they went.”

So to compare the NRA, which has always supported gun rights for all citizens, to the Ku Klux Klan which supported gun control laws to keep their victims defenseless is not only unfair, it’s a monstrous case of historical ignorance.

Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • HG

    I missed the part where the NRA is “arming.. so many black youths”. Is the NRA running guns into inner cities and selling them to “black youths”? If that is the case, it would be easy to stop since the laws prevent anyone under 18 from purchasing a firearm. In addition, the law requires registration of all firearms at the time of purchase. It would be simple to bring charges against the NRA for doing this sort of thing.

    • Roy_Bean

      They tell a lie and repeat it until people believe it. Both lying to the public and disarming the public were methods used by the German government in the 1930s to gain absolute control.

      • HG

        It’s as if “black youth” have a civil right to a gun-free society.

        • Roy_Bean

          I believe that the 2nd amendment, like the rest of the constitution, applies to everyone. All races, all ethnic groups. The liberals seem to want to exempt blacks. Republicans since Abe Lincoln have been fighting for equality for all.

          • HG

            Well, if some feel they have a “right” to a gun-free society, who are we to deny them that right.

          • $8194357

            We have been left with the “illusion” of the
            Constitution since at least 1913…
            We are an ‘international rule of olagarchy elitists”
            above the Constitutional Republic…..

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You are not a big fan of the constitution, eh Pointy?

          • $8194357

            The one the internationalists use to usurpt our freedoms?
            The soviet steering committe all powerful OZ version elitist olagarchy
            rule of men above the rule of “common law” given over to “corperate ownership law”?
            No…
            The one the Founders gave us…Yeah.. suits me just fine..

          • noblindersonme

            Whenever I read some ‘republican’ today write about his party and LINCOLN in the same sentence , it sends up a big red flag up and tells me ‘ stupid thinker commenting -beware!’.
            Guys like you seem to equate the ‘fact ‘ that Lincoln being a republican and the republicans of today are of the same cloth is pure stupidity! It only proves the republicans want to claim Lincoln’s great name in their ‘column of greatness’ , without actually analyzing if even Lincoln would even been welcome in the Republican party today
            Roy Bean ( he was the hanging judge of western lore wasn’t he!) Lincoln of 1865 HAS VERY LITTLE IN COMMON with the republican party today !
            Political parties are conglomanation of shifting, morphing events and idealogies! The GOP has twisted itself around so many times it resembles a pretzel , as has the Democrats.
            Republicans of today have as much in common with the republicans of yesteryear as today’s Ford Fusion has with Ford’s Modet T!
            To claim ‘republicans since Lincoln have been fighting for equality for all’ … is pure bullshit!!! All one has to do is harken back to a time that I REMEMBER!!! and a time not buried in history books!
            In the 60’s and 70’s CONSERVATIVES stampeded to the REPUBLICAN party because the party was the place where their overt racism became more suitable ! THAT IS A FACT!!! Conservative racist democrats like Wallace, Maddox etc were becoming the scorn of the Democratic party and LIBERAL republicans ( Rockefeller Lindsey etc) were becoming unwelcome in the more conservative GOP! ANTI- EQUALITY FOR ALL CONSERVATIVES switched to the GOP! The best example of the hundreds of southern conservative dixie crats who switched to the GOP was Strom Thurmond who ran as President on the SEGRAGATIONIST TICKET!
            I could go on and on , but as Churchill once said ” Truth is incontrovertible , malice may attack it and ignorance deride it , but in the end, there it is!”
            You should read your own quote! Repeating a lie over and over again is very Hitler -like and the lie that you are repeating is that the GOP has been on a steady march of freedom when it comes to blacks is pure bullsh*t, it sure aint working when the blacks go to the polls does it! ( AND REMEMBER THE CONSERVATIVES WHO FAVORED THE POLL TAX FOR BLACKS )!

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You bear false witness, you understand nothing of what you preach.

          • $8194357

            Pot calling the kettle black “falsely”.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SHv2K1ktRg&feature=player_embedded#!

            Liberals are all about love. They love poor people… as long as they stay poor.

            They love choice… as long as it’s not in education, energy, healthcare, or commerce.

            They love rights… as long as we’re not talking about the rights of the unborn. They love black people… as long as they stay on the Democrat plantation.

            Weapon
            of A.S.S. (American Socialist States) Destruction
            obliterates liberal lies —
            from the so-called “party switch” to the money-grubbing
            self-righteousness of the green movement.

            Poverty pimps, Afrocentrics, RINOs, Demon-crats, whatevuh…

            All of you jive turkeys better watch out!
            ’Cause Zo’s about to drop some truth bombs up in here!

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You bear false witness again. You’ve learned nothing.

          • $8194357

            Is the dope still good on the island?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Do you remember your drugs being good? I would have no idea, either way.

            Bearing false witness again?

          • $8194357

            Casper learned a ‘new’ phrase…
            Parrot boy boo boo…
            hanni want a cracker?
            What ya going to do with your new found toy?
            Puke it out in all the places you go, huh..
            The plane boss..
            the plane….

          • $8194357

            Choom choom…
            Frank Marshall Davis sold it to Barry and the
            “crew from the hood”.

          • Roy_Bean

            I guess I struck a nerve with that post, a little too close to home I guess. Here are the vote totals from the Civil Rights Act of 1964. About 80% Republican support, less than 65% (on average) democrat support. It was signed by Lyndon (“I’ll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.”) Johnson, so he got the credit. Sorry for the offensive language but it was what he said.

            The original House version:[16]
            Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%)
            Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%)

            Cloture in the Senate:[17]
            Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%)
            Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)

            The Senate version:[16]
            Democratic Party: 46–21 (69–31%)
            Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)

            The Senate version, voted on by the House:[16]
            Democratic Party: 153–91 (63–37%)
            Republican Party: 136–35 (80–20%)

      • $8194357

        Islam practiced it with its jihadist conquests as well for the last 1400 years.

  • yy4u2

    Say what you want about liberal indoctrination, but this is living proof of its success. Saddens me.

    • $8194357

      100’s of millions of these ‘little success’ stories around the globe..

  • SigFan

    Mr. Whitlock joins Mr. Costass for the “stuck on stupid” award of the week. The NRA does some things I wish they didn’t at times – supporting political candidates from either party strictly on the basis of the person’s position on the 2nd Amendment for one – but in general it is a force for good and safe, responsible gun ownership. Whitlock obviously knows not of what he speaks.

    • reggy

      Your complaint with the NRA is that they actually adhere to their mission and aren’t just a full-on partisan group? Do you get mad at your accountant for not also being a dentist?

      • $8194357

        No but I get mad at my POTUS because he is a islamic/communist.
        does that count?

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      I don’t think the NRA should be blamed for sticking to their issue instead of making partisan endorsements.

      What is frustrating is when they endorse someone despite a clear historical record of anti-gun votes. Like Pomeroy over Berg in 2010.

      That was ridiculous.

      • SigFan

        I generally agree, but I have a difficult time with many single-issue groups. By being so hidebound to the one issue (whatever issue you choose) many times other things that are equally as important are overlooked. To the NRA’s credit though they are consistent in their focus on 2nd Amendment rights and try to stay above the fray on other political or social issues.

      • noblindersonme

        Once again Port is claiming he knows MORE than the NRA when it comes to gun rights ! and he again uses the NRA endorsement of Earl over Berg as his proof! it couldn’t possibly be that PORT is ever wrong ??? That is what is ridiculous! a large body of conservatives, like minded as he supposedly is, not going along with his perveted views , so THEY must be wrong NOT HIM!

  • borborygmi

    HIs conclusions are hogwash, blather and illogical.

    • HG

      Yep.

  • borborygmi

    All one can gather from this is the lrresponsible use of guns or knives or clubs or any other weapon is just that irresponsibility of the user. If a child shoots himself with daddies gun it was an irresponsible gun owner that effed up. Guns don’t make you safer by themselves,otherwise “the ‘ hood” would be the safest place on earth everyone owns a gun, some legally some illegally. Responsible use and ownership of a gun will not harm you.

  • mickey_moussaoui

    I bet this fatty momma’s boy has a gun. He looks like the wannabe gansta type

    • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

      And more stereo typing of a black male, complete with childish fat jokes.

      • $8194357

        Your momma is so phat….
        the back of her neck looks like a pack of hot dogs….

      • $8194357

        Daniel went to the lions den because he would not bow to the ways of men..

        Social justice communist false morality is what ya all bow down to son..

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98jNS8MmEqw

      • $8194357

        Don’t be talking bout my momma now, hear?
        Hee…hee…

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbajAL-lwzg

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          Dude can pick…

          For my friends who passed..
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOZv9Xlk62Y

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          Why would I do that? I don’t know your momma and I’m not Poofy. :)

      • $8194357

        Stereo types?

        Like working class white rednecks, perhaps?

        Naw…on the left it is only a one way street, huh shark bait.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-8b7x7_Sco

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          I’ve got nothing against white working-class rednecks, unless they are a-holes. If there’s an a-hole who happens to be a working white redneck, then maybe. But the same goes for any color a-hole, like Col West, for example.

          • $8194357

            Allen West is a patriot who swore to defend the Constitution
            against all its enemies, foriegn OR domestic..
            Cornell West now is another story…
            Race baiting communist social justice ideolog from hell..

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession
          • $8194357

            Sharkbait?
            Do you and Barry share one brain cell together..
            Your “emperor” has no clothes on..

          • $8194357
          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            I wish you actually understood or believed this. You accuse people of being communists, socialists everyday…and it’s a lie.

          • $8194357

            They “self identify” until the light of Truth shines on em sharkbait…
            I am not accusing anyone of anything they haven’t
            admitted and wrote about their own bad selves..

          • $8194357
          • $8194357

            Non revisionist actuality..

            MLK Jr.
            Republican Babtist Minnister…
            Cival rights leader…..
            Who wanted a nation where all men where judged on the
            content of their character..
            We got Barry and social justice communism instead…

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

            char·ac·ter(krk-tr)

            n.

            1. The combination of qualities or features that distinguishes one person, group, or thing from another. See Synonyms at disposition.

            2. A distinguishing feature or attribute, as of an individual, group, or category. See Synonyms at quality.

            3. Genetics A structure, function, or attribute determined by a gene or group of genes.

            4. Moral or ethical strength.

            5. A description of a person’s attributes, traits, or abilities.

            6. A formal written statement as to competency and dependability, given by an employer to a former employee; a recommendation.

            7. Public estimation of someone; reputation: personal attacks that damaged her character.

            8. Status or role; capacity: in his character as the father.

            9.

            a. A notable or well-known person; a personage.

            b. A person, especially one who is peculiar or eccentric: a shady character; catcalls from some character in the back row.

            10.

            a. A person portrayed in an artistic piece, such as a drama or novel.

            b. Characterization in fiction or drama: a script that is weak in plot but strong in character.

            11. A mark or symbol used in a writing system.

            12. Computer Science

            a. One of a set of symbols, such as letters or numbers, that are arranged to express information.

            b. The numerical code representing such a character.

            13. A style of printing or writing.

            14. A symbol used in secret writing; a cipher or code.

            adj.

            1. Of or relating to one’s character.

            2.

            a. Specializing in the interpretation of often minor roles that emphasize fixed personality traits or specific physical characteristics: a character actor.

            b. Of or relating to the interpretation of such roles by an actor: the character part of the hero’s devoted mother.

            3. Dedicated to the portrayal of a person with regard to distinguishing psychological or physical features: a character sketch.

            4. Law Of or relating to a person who gives testimony as to the moral and ethical reputation or behavior of one engaged in a lawsuit: a character witness.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession
          • $8194357

            Using it falsly after I gave it to you don’t make it right shark bait…
            Only in a libtard universe could you even try your bait and switch and think it would fly, huh..

          • $8194357

            Did you even watch what this man had to say?
            Or just do the Alinsky throw it right back at the target?

          • $16179444

            this coming from the Queen of the a-holes.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You refer to yourself as the Queen of a-holes?

  • mickey_moussaoui

    This is an old analogy but more people are killed by doctors than guns. Frankly, the number one cause of death in America is by falling. To appease the left we better ban “height”.

    • Onslaught1066

      Doctors wear a lot of white, do they not?

      Go about masked quite often too, if I am not mistaken.

      Mrs. Byrd to Mr. Byrd on the night their little Bobby Byrd was inducted into the Klan: “My son, the doctor!”

      [IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/2v7tici.jpg[/IMG]

      • $8194357

        “By any means”
        to keep the power over others
        is “still” working for the leftist internationalist
        lucifer ideologs, huh..
        KKK was but one chapter to this agenda they embrace…

    • noblindersonme

      Maybe you would prevail in a debate if you actually wrote something ‘ intelligent’ , your ‘point’ is pretty stupid and hardly relevant to the dramatic issue of guns and their ‘need to be regulated and how much?’. Guns are a manufactured product and this is the issue , guns cars booze cigarettes etc are man made and we will argue how much of that needs to be regulated for a very long time , you TOO asshat, I am sure favor some sort of ‘regulation’ when it suits your needs , so cut the ‘appease the left’ crap!
      Snarky comments like blaming ‘height’ for accidents solves NOTHING – it only satisfied your smug needs , and we all know what that is worth.

  • mickey_moussaoui

    “Whitlock probably doesn’t know this, but gun control laws were actually promoted by the Ku Klux Klan as a way of keeping blacks disarmed and incapable of defending themselves, their families and their property.”
    How very Democrat

  • awfulorv

    It’s dem white devils again, is it? Now it’s the NFL, the entity that pays them millions per year for playing a game, for jumping, running, catching, and hitting, that’s at fault. Hows about the black ghetto culture, getting it’s, rightful, share of the blame? The missing fathers, the absurd notion of killing for disrespect, or sneakers, a jacket, or drugs? Believe me when I state that if whites were to move out of the US, to exchange this land for a like amount of African land, it wouldn’t be twenty years and this place would look like Zimbabwe does today. Which, BTW, is a prime example of what happens when corrupt black politicians, are there any other, attempt to run a country. And now you damn fools have put them in charge of this greatest of countries. You ignorant, reverse, racists deserve what you’ll soon be receiving. Too bad the rest of us and, in particular, my beautiful little grandson I’m sitting with this afternoon, will, likely, go down with you…

  • $8194357

    Did he bother to mention they were the militant arm of the Democratic party
    and hung Christian Republicans along with blacks?

  • matthew_bosch

    LOL…
    I’m sure Black Youth are tuned into the NRA. You know, all the old white guys
    and Black Youth getting together and discussing the pros/cons of M14 vs M4.
    Or if the 5.45×39 is a better cartridge than the 5.56. I even bet they have long discussions into the night about appreciating the ascetics of a Mil Surp rifle, rather than moding it out into a new composite stock and modern accessories.

    Good grief…

    • $8194357

      2 tru

  • sbark

    Say Bob Costas….wasnt he the guy that used to announce football games with a partner by the name of OJ Simpson?………..
    What weapon did he use to kill his ex and her boyfriend…………….Ya’ figure OJ was a KKK member also?

  • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

    In other news, a black teen is shot by a 45yr old white man, over loud music. Rob…..fails to cover the story.

    The white male was a gun collector who happened to love the NRA and fight for gun laws so he can have his precious guns to fire at teenagers blasting their music.

    Gee?

    • LenYol

      Says the hypocrite who owns semi automatic weapons. Who are you planning to kill with those weapons?

      Your addiction to SAB is running very strong today.

      • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

        Oh come on now, Oklahoma mike, you know you live in the poorest state in the country. I pay more in taxes in just one year than you make in two.

        • LenYol

          I love it when you keep making a fool of yourself, and you do it so easily. No one cares what you make, or what you claim to pay in taxes. Oh wait….you’re the mooch with the tax lien who didn’t pay!!!
          Braahahahahaha!!!

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Oklahoma mike, you know you are a liar who can’t compete.

        • $8194357

          Treason pays well huh..
          30 pieces of silver perhaps..

    • Chris

      Why don’t you post the story yourself, you lazy piece of filth. You’re mooching on your employers time anyway. You are employed aren’t you, you tax cheat?

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      Why don’t you start your own blog, and then you can write whatever you want?

      By the way, I’m sure there are also stories every day about blacks killing whites. Why would we pick out one story and hold it up just because, within the context of that one story, whatever partisan trope you’re pushing is upheld?

      • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

        Because I have to spend my time writing the truth every time you post your lies, misinformation and stupidity.

        • LenYol

          But…but…you could make believe to write the “truth” on your own blog. Or is your addiction to SAB just too over whelming for you to think of anything else?

          • $8194357

            A surfer boy from the island?
            Loves old white boys from
            the land of the hunger games?
            Proof got some compitition for boo boos affections, huh…

        • $8194357

          (Because I have to)
          Narcisits calling?

        • $8194357
    • $8194357

      To bad he wasn’t surfer bias?

    • $8194357
      • Hannitized, Proofs obsession
        • $8194357

          Boys got some pipes…
          His message your message sharkbait?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Yeah, take a break and just enjoy some good ol music.

          • $8194357

            Peace out rabbbit…
            7 mile….

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            G’night.

        • $8194357

          These folks sing what I believe kid…

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rEl9yvoJTo

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bqhcYjA7bQ

          Yourself?
          Mother russias anthem?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            I don’t know much about Russia, cept that have some pretty cool bears over there.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHuBPe5_xxY

            Why not just relax today?

          • $8194357

            Shark bait…
            The cross before the crown..
            Universalisms lies will take most of your generation with it, IMO..
            Deigo and Dora along with the dophins won’t save ya..
            Mother earth? or mother russia…
            The ideologies all originate with the fallen one who wants control…
            If ya knew Jesus in Spirit and Truth?
            Ya would know that…

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession
          • $8194357

            Beware the deception of “universalism lies” shark bait…

            Jesus is the Truth the Way and the Life..
            The created creature longs to be worshiped just as the ‘Creator’.
            It has been lucifers lie to bring the ‘world’ together under him..

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            I know, I wish you understood that:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjrC94lyPi0

          • $8194357

            According to what is written,
            not worldly traditions grasshopper..
            According to the Word of Truth
            and the Testimony of the Spirit…
            The ‘two’ will be of ‘one accord’…
            Did Issac sing about that?
            Did he sing about anyone coming into the
            house by any other access but “thru Christ”
            is a robber and a theif and has
            “no place” in the house?
            Or did he “make you feel good about “religion”
            and/or spirituality?

            Isaiah 45:12-14
            New King James Version (NKJV)

            12 I have made the earth,
            And created man on it.
            I—My hands—stretched out the heavens,
            And all their host I have commanded.

            13 I have raised him up in righteousness,
            And I will direct all his ways;
            He shall build My city
            And let My exiles go free,
            Not for price nor reward,”
            Says the Lord of hosts.

            The Lord, the Only Savior

            14 Thus says the Lord:
            “The labor of Egypt and merchandise of Cush
            And of the Sabeans, men of stature,
            Shall come over to you, and they shall be yours;
            They shall walk behind you,
            They shall come over in chains;
            And they shall bow down to you.
            They will make supplication to you, saying, ‘Surely God is in you,
            And there is no other;
            There is no other God.’”

            2 Corinthians 4:13-15
            New King James Version (NKJV)

            13 And since we have the same spirit of faith,
            (according to what is written, )
            “I believed and therefore I spoke,”[a]
            we also believe and therefore speak,

            14 knowing that He who raised up the Lord Jesus will also raise us up with Jesus, and will present us with you.
            15 For all things are for your sakes, that grace, having spread through the many, may cause thanksgiving to abound to the glory of God.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            He is a stranger to you, you know not Him.

          • $8194357

            Oh contrair decieved natures child…
            Mother ocean gave birth to you and
            all the other liberals huh.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            He created the Earth and the universe. Whose to say that He did not create us with the use of the Earth, you?

          • $8194357

            Patriarchal Trinity’s Rule of Law
            vs satans matriarchail majority concensus
            by commitee kid.
            The Spirit and the Word “must agree”..
            Division comes from the deciever..
            God is Spirit and will NOT go against His Word..
            Who is it that decieves and lies to ‘creation’?
            The accuser…..
            lucifer the father of all lies..
            SIN enetered the world thru his lies and deceptions and accusations made against God….
            And ya all on the left keep his fires burning for him..

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            What have I said that’s a lie?

          • $8194357

            Every ideological false hood ya spew out, perhaps?
            Or maybe just “really submitting to Jesus”
            as Lord of lords and King of kings.
            Sin IS the mortal and immortal enemy of Gods creation
            but you and yours are ok with it when it suits your purposes, huh..

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            What part of this is a lie: He created the Earth and the universe. Whose to say that He did not create us with the use of the Earth, you?

          • $8194357

            Your ideology…….
            Why do YOU capitalize earth enviro’mental’
            and not universe?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You are changing the subject from one of your lies to another. What part of this sentence is untrue: He created the Earth and the universe. Whose to say that He did not create us with the use of the Earth, you?

          • Neiman

            Because he has His Spirit to help him to discern truth, while you do not. So, 7p62 is, as best he can, telling you what God says about the issue and what you forgot is that those elements only make up the physical body, being yet without any life – a dead lump of clay; and, the life part is not in the elements at all, it is in the spirit (pneuma). He breathed life into those yet dead elements and Adam became a living being (soul), absent that Adam did not exist.

            So, it is only partially true and misleading to suggest God used those elements to create a man, they only made up his physical body, the life is only in the spirit of man.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You are so filled with hate that you can not even bring yourself to admit that nothing I said in that sentence was a lie. You on the other hand, were only only partially true when you said: He created all things out of nothing, man out of the dust.

            You spoke not of the spirit.

          • Neiman

            1. The only thing I hate is sin and those that by lies, encourage others to sin, I do so in imitation of my Father in Heaven. If you were a Christian, you too would hate sin and those that encourage others to sin, because they separate souls from God and eternal life. Yet, like all you liberals, you throw around words like racism and hate to silence your opponents.

            2. You would not know about the Spirit, you falsely think you do, but you have often denied Christ by refusing to confess Him and by your support of abortion and homosexuality among other things, so the fruits of your words/actions say you have never had a conversion experience, not having His Spirit. I wish you did, but the facts say no.

            3. I don’t believe I said anything you said was a lie, but it was simply not the truth; because, as I explained the life is not in the flesh, but the spirit and so those base elements, that common clay is not a man at all, not until it has the spirit of life (animal life). Having said something that was not false as to facts, but having not all the facts makes it false.

          • Leonard

            “What have I said that’s a lie?”
            That you’re not a tax cheat, that you’re straight and that you’re not the child of mongoloids. I could go on, but the list of your lies would go on for a very, very long time.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            In other words, YOU are the liar. Got it, thanks mikemc1970.

          • Leonard

            All you’ve got is a tax lien, STD’s and your addiction to Rob and SAB. Try to at least get my name right.

          • Neiman

            Get a King James Bible, Read Genesis One – that it God saying exactly how He created all things out of nothing, man out of the dust.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            And what do you think the dust is made out of???

          • Neiman

            eight elements, oxygen, a negatively-charged ion (anion)
            in crystal structures, is the most prevalent on both a weight and
            volume basis. The next most common elements, all positively-charged
            ions (cations), in decreasing order are silicon, aluminum, iron,
            magnesium, calcium, sodium, and potassium. Ions of these elements
            combine in various ratios to form different minerals. More than eighty
            other elements also occur in soils and the earth’s crust, but in much
            smaller quantities. And God made them all out of nothing.

          • $8194357

            Jesus controls the elements for Gods Glory..

            lucifer wants control of them for his own glory…

            The created creature wants to be worshiped like the
            One whom created him..So does decieved man.

            Christ and Christ crucified and Risen…

            All else is vanity…

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            He made them all out of nothing, then made the Earth with them, then made man from the Earth. Thanks for confirming what I had said.

            Does your bible refute that which you provided and supports my statement?

          • Neiman

            No I did not confirm what you wrote, you are a non-Christian and cannot possibly understand God’s Word, as that requires spiritual discernment and you have not His Spirit.

            He used the base elements that He created (they did not evolve) to instantly create a man, He did not use those elements to evolve a man. More important that created man was without life until God breathed into him the spirit of life (animal spirit) that animated that lifeless lump of clay.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            My Christian Brother, you are so filled with hate you can not even admit truth when you see it, and you hold your religion hostage by believing only you, God Neiman, can interpret The Bible correctly or knows who is and who is not a Christian.

            I said the same thing you did, but you added a lie to my correct comment, proving you are a liar from Hell.

          • Neiman

            All lies..
            1. I have documented why the fruits of your life separate you from God and Jesus, denying your being a Christian,
            2. Your not being a Christian, we are in no way brothers, yet you keep repeating that lie.
            3. The only hate you can prove on my is hatred of sin and those that encourage others in sin and deny them a chance at eternal life by their lies.
            4. Lie number four, I have never claimed nor intimated I thought I was a god and have often confessed being only a sinner saved by Grace. You just do not like straight talk that convicts you of not being what you claim to be – a Christian, which is understandable.
            5. You cannot even confess Jesus as your only savior and Lord, that is by the Bible, by God’s Word – a denial of Him and His salvation.
            6. What lie did I add to your statement? That the life is in the spirit, or breath of man, not the body alone? If you are going to prove a lie, prove it, like I always do when you lie, just making the accusation is not sufficient proof , even for a liberal.

            7. While I am only the least of His servants, you people of this world also accused Jesus of having a demon. If you are

          • $8194357

            10X
            From His ‘created elements’
            He blew the breath of life into..
            Ashes to ashes..Dust to dust…

            Lifes spirit?

            Choose this day…Heaven or hell….
            The deciver and accuser wants mans spirit with him in hell..
            He wants to destroy the temporal to destroy the eternal…
            Jesus is the Truth, the Way and the Life Eternal…

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            You spit on what He created, and you spit on what He inspired.

          • $8194357

            IF that is so according to shark bait…
            What is the ‘punishment’ from your moral/ideological
            understanding for such blasphomy against ‘nature’?
            The Bible and Spirit seem to agree that since ‘sin’
            entered the ‘program’…
            Wrath is going to destroy the corrupted files..
            What say you nature boy toy of the know it all know
            nothing ideological left?
            What does ‘your understanding’ on punishment s that fit the
            crimes in your world view?
            Enviromental nazis get to kill all the evil polluters for
            their sins or just the islamic/jihadists get that task for your global ideology?
            Who gets to nuke who shark bait and for
            “what made up false moral reasons”?

          • $8194357

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_universalism

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_Gospel

            The term Full Gospel is often used as a synonym for Pentecostalism, a Protestant movement originating in the 19th century. Early Pentecostals saw their teachings on baptism with the Holy Spirit, spiritual gifts, and divine healing as a return to the doctrines and power of the Apostolic Age. Because of this many early Pentecostals called their movement the Apostolic Faith or the Full Gospel.

            This term has origins in the holiness movement. A. B. Simpson, the founder of the Christian and Missionary Alliance, framed his core beliefs around the “Fourfold Gospel”, that Christ is Savior, Sanctifier, Healer, and Soon Coming King. Many Pentecostals were influenced by Simpson and adopted his Fourfold or “Foursquare” Gospel as an articulation of their beliefs. This term is still used today in the name of the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel.

            The term “Full Gospel” also refers to Romans 15,18-19, where Paul says: “… to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed, through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.”

          • Neiman

            He confesses Jesus as his Lord and you deny Him by not confessing Him. 7p62 has Jesus as the absolute Lord of his life, guiding his thoughts and life, while you kill babies and say homosexuality is not a grievous sin against God, separating homosexuals from Him and His Life. So the evidence is – 7p62 is a Christian and you simply are not, though both of us wish you were and that you loved Jesus more than your own life, sadly your antichrst beliefs have hidden Jesus from you.

          • Neiman

            No one wants to exclude you from the family of God, but only to awaken you to the fact that just your saying you are a Christian, you just attending Church or being a member of a Church does NOT make you a Christian, nor certainly is any desire to be good or do good.

            To be a Christian one must be convicted in their hearts of the horrible nature of their sins, which is why John the Baptist and Jesus called people first to repentance, being a sincere acknowledgement that they are sinners and doomed to everlasting suffering in Perdition; and at the same time, having a desire to be set free from both sin and the guilt of sin. Then to sincerely ask Jesus to be your Savior and absolute Lord of your life, to surrender everything in your life to Him, wherein you rise from such a humble, prayerful place to being born again of His Spirit, your animal spirit dying with Him by faith and having His Spirit come into to you and replacing that natural spirit that only led to death.

            That is being a Christian Hannitized, nothing more, nothing less. Conviction, Repentance, Conversion, having a new life in Christ Jesus and Him living His life in and through yours. That is what 7p62 and I want for you, not exclusion, but being a true child of God by grace alone, by faith alone, in Christ alone.

          • $8194357

            One world end times religon coming your way soon sharkbait..

            Univeralisms:
            enviromental/phycobabble/ secular “religion”
            (in the name of)
            world peace tho, huh..
            The world does indeed love its own… but keep puking up the
            ideological/doctrines and illusions with biblical smoke screens.

            Its fun watching the dog return to its vomit…

            Shark bait…
            The cross before the crown..
            Universalisms lies will take most of your generation with it, IMO..
            Deigo and Dora along with the dophins won’t save ya..
            Mother earth? or mother russia…
            The ideologies all originate with the fallen one who wants control…
            If ya knew Jesus in Spirit and Truth?
            Ya would know that…

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            There’s a difference between a good American and an idiot, like so many here on SAB:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XlqudTC–I

          • $8194357
          • $8194357

            Anarchy dude…
            Rock on…
            Blow some smoke and stick it to the man…
            Sheesh hanni…What a fool tool for the international agenda..

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            I did not see the word Anarchy in the video. Do you interpret The Bible in the same way, seeing things that are not there? Yes you do.

          • $8194357

            Whats your major sharkbait?
            You seem to think your self an ‘expert’ on all things…
            Barry is a narcisist as well..
            Is that why ya support the international elitist pick to rule over the western hemisphere?
            Or because ya hope when he rules the world you will move up with him?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Bearing false witness again in order to avoid the question?

            I will ask again: Where is the word Anarchy in the video? Do you also place words into The Bible that are not there to extract the meaning you want to hear, as well?

          • $8194357

            We have educated you well sharkbait…
            But built on the shifting sand of false morality?
            Your house has no foundation that will stand.
            The Rock of Truth is the only Foundation that
            will stand the test of time as it is what God created
            it all with…False taken as true always rusts and is destroyed by the moth…oh child of the oceans womb….

          • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ Proof

            “There’s a difference between a good American and an idiot, like so many liberals here on SAB”

            There! Fixed it for you, Hanni Boo Boo!

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Of course you consider lying to be a fix. That’s all you do, is “fix” stories on a daily basis. Heh.

          • LenYol

            Everyone already knows you’re an idiot. Through your addiction to SAB, you prove it every day, morning, night.

  • $8194357

    KKK to Stalin and the Nazis….

    What goes around comes around for a new generation of Lenins
    decieved useful idiot know it all know nothings, huh..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JMhH9BQsj6M#!

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