Now That Republicans Are Out Of Power, Suddenly They Propose Spending Cuts And Tax Cuts

If they’d done this while they were in the majority they’d still be in the majority.

WASHINGTON – Republicans in the House Wednesday pressed a budget plan that would cut taxes and radically overhaul Medicare, offering a stark alternative to blueprints offered by President Barack Obama and his Democratic allies.
The plan, drafted by Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, the top Republican on the Budget Committee, also freezes overall spending on domestic programs passed by Congress each year and repeals most of the spending in Obama’s recently passed economic stimulus bill.
Despite spending reductions, the plan projects permanent deficits exceeding $500 billion into the future, fueled largely by big tax cuts.
The GOP plan would offer a dramatically simplified tax code in which couples would have the option of a 10 percent rate on the first $100,000 of income, with a 25 percent rate thereafter, with the first $25,000 of income exempt from taxation. Single could get a $12,500 exemption and a 10 percent rate on income up to $50,000.
Taxpayers could also opt to remain in the current system.
On Medicare, workers under the age of 55 would enroll in private plans and receive premium subsidies equal to the average Medicare benefit when they retire. Benefits would not be changed for people in the program or people 55 or older.

In this time of reckless spending and massive debt inflation, I’ll admit that this comes as a breath of fresh air. But it’s also frustrating to see Republicans do this now, when really they should have been doing it four or five years ago.
Regardless, this is exactly what Republicans need to be doing right now. Get back to conservative basics, and offer something that contrasts favorably with what Democrats want to do. Democrats want more spending. More debt for future generations. More government in our lives. Republicans want less of all of that.

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  • http://Array carrick

    Neither is OK. Where is your outrage over Barney Franks?

  • robert108

    Remember a guy named Abramoff and all the other republican scandals that took power away from them in 2006?

    Another lie from you, little dinostem! It was a guy named Mark Foley, who the Dem culture of corruption used as gay smear against all Republicans, and who was never even indicted for doing anything illegal, that won a very narrow victory for the spendthrift Pelosi/Reid/Obama Congress in ’06.

    How about the recession that started in Dec 07?

    Right after the Pelosi/Reid/Obama Congress passed it’s first wave of pork, and blocked reform of the Dem social engineering affirmative action loan mandate debacle that started the present situation, made much worse by Obama’s record destruction of wealth and record debt creation.
    It’s all Dems, moron!

  • robert108

    Yes, republicans did such an awesome job when they ran the country over much of the last 30 years that we’re mired in a Depression.

    Carter+Clinton+Pelosi/Reid=14years; you can’t do simple arithmetic, dumb little dinostem. The Dem culture of corruption has stifled our domestic energy development for the last thirty years, resulting in the loss of trillions in income and millions of lost jobs.
    BTW, until Obama’s record wealth destruction and record debt creation puts us there, we’re not in a depression.
    You have no econ education, little dinostem, and it shows.

  • carrick

    Dragon Poker, as long as I understand this is just a pie-throwing contest, I’ll ignore your and Robert’s back and forth.

  • robert108

    Surely you are not defending what Foley did?

    I just refuted dumb little dinostem’s bullshit, so don’t try that lie with me, little groupie. What did Foley actually do, btw? Do you know? There were no “serious transgressions” by Foley, not even in the same ballpark as Barney Frank, so you’re being hypocritical, as well as inaccurate.

    You give the ammo to the opposition, then blame the opposition for using it.

    Only in your distorted imagination, little groupie.

    The Mark Foley demonization was classic attack propaganda. If you knew anything, you would know that Foley was never indicted, much less convicted, of doing anything.

    The responsibility is all on the Dem culture of corruption, for using gay smear against their opponents, while posing as defenders of homosexuality.

  • Bat One

    Ryan’s proposal IS a breath of fresh air. And it raises once again the confrontation between those who recognize that cutting taxes has always worked to stimulate an economy out of slow growth or recession mode, while massive Keynesian deficit spending has yet to be shown to have a similar stimulative effect.

    Furthermore, in the case of the 2003 Bush tax rate cuts and the Clinton 1997 tax rate cuts as well, tax revenues actually increased in the years following the cuts. The deficits that liberals were so angst-ridden over were the result of increases in spending, not tax rate cuts. Of course, those on the Left can’t very well use deficits as an argument against Republican tax rate cuts anymore. Not after embracing Obama’s budget proposals.

    Thank you, Mr. Ryan. I like it!

  • carrick

    DragonPoker:

    I am not outraged over Barney Franks behavior. He is what he claims to be.

    Nice job demonstrating how to rationalize something that is inherently unpalatable, and a double standard to boot.

  • dragon poker

    Barney Frank does not justify Mark Foley.
    Telling folks that something is ok since the other guys does stuff also is weak and will never win a single election.
    Go after Frank if you like, but dont use him as justification for others poor behavior or dirty deeds.
    Sounds like a 3rd grade argument to me.

  • carrick

    RBB, I R spelling beez here. They are both words.

    In particular….

  • dragon poker

    Thanks RBB, I was going to post this as well, but thought, why should I go to the trouble for a dipshit like knobert.
    He is the only person I know who would defend Foley and blame others for what Foley did to himself. knobert is a dipshit of the highest order, but then everyone but knobert knows this, so whats the point anyway.

  • dragon poker

    Dipshit,
    You didnt answer the question. You are defending Foley huh?
    Of course I know what he did. Do you? If it were your kids involved you would have a different song. You are a hypocrite.
    Dipshit,
    You also, as is typical of you, didnt attack the main point, that handing the opposition ammo then attacking them for using it is not smart. You are an emotional buffoon.
    You chose to resort to name calling and insults once again instead of simply replying in a rational manner.
    I will once again treat you like you treat others, you repulsive bully.
    You are a repugnant dipshit. The sooner you expire, the better everyone else will be. Hurry up will ya?

  • http://sillytroll.com/ Dino2

    Yes, republicans did such an awesome job when they ran the country over much of the last 30 years that we’re mired in a Depression.

    Conservatism never works. Greed and selfishness are not a good foundation for growing a healthy and prosperous society.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    gop Bait and Switch.

    It started in Jan. ’81.

  • robert108

    Even little ribby refuted your claim of “suddenly”.

  • dragon poker

    Carrick,
    Not a bad idea. It does get ugly.

  • carrick

    Barney Frank is still in office.

    Where’s the faux outrage?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    R180′s gop hero:

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    Maf54 (7:47:11 PM): are you

    Maf54 (7:47:11 PM): good so your getting horny

    Xxxxxxxxx (7:47:29 PM): lol…a bit

    Maf54 (7:48:00 PM): did you spank it this weekend yourself

    Xxxxxxxxx (7:48:04 PM): no

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    Maf54 (7:50:56 PM): i am sure

    Xxxxxxxxx (7:50:57 PM): i dont do it very often normally though

    Maf54 (7:51:11 PM): why not

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    Xxxxxxxxx (7:51:57 PM): not me

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    Xxxxxxxxx (7:52:36 PM): actually usually i dont do it in the shower

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    Xxxxxxxxx (7:52:47 PM): and quickly

    Maf54 (7:52:50 PM): in the bed

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    Maf54 (7:53:54 PM): do you really do it face down

    Xxxxxxxxx (7:54:03 PM): ya

    Maf54 (7:54:13 PM): kneeling

    Xxxxxxxxx (7:54:31 PM): well i dont use my hand…i use the bed itself

    Maf54 (7:54:31 PM): where do you unload it

    Xxxxxxxxx (7:54:36 PM): towel

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  • robert108

    I am not outraged over Barney Franks behavior. Of course not; you’re a far left partisan, and a hypocrite. He is what he claims to be. Another lie from you; when his homo partner was found to be operating a dating service out of the home they shared(at taxpayer expense, probably) he denied knowing anything about it. How credible is that? When he was told that Fannie and Freddie were not in good shape, he flatly denied it, even though the numbers proved it. He’s a liar, and a key part of the Dem culture of corruption.

    Foley on the other hand, claimed to be something he was not, Another flat out lie; he didn’t “claim” anything of the kind. and brought a fair amount of ruin to the GOP with his poor behavior. Still another lie; it was the MSM and the Dem culture of corruption that used his homo behavior to demonize all Republicans, and he was never even indicted for any criminal behavior. This was a witchhunt by you lefties, using gay smear to win an election on false premises.

    Your predigested leftie lying pablum doesn’t fit the facts.

    Please present the evidence to support your claim that Foley “claimed to be something he was not”. That is a lie, and you have no proof at all.
    Barney Frank, on the other hand, claims to be an honest politician, and he is deeply corrupt, and has cost the taxpayers untold amounts of money.

  • http://sillytroll.com/ Dino2

    Barney Frank, the conservative idiots’ new bogeyman, never had a Congressional page sex scandal. That was Gerry Studds (D) and Dan Crane (R) in 1983.

    Frank had a roommate/boyfriend running an escort service from Frank’s home.

    No one forced Foley to resign.

    You’re out of your fevered conservative minds if you think Foley took your guys down in 2006. It was Abramoff, Delay et al.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    For shame, r180!

    Can we get a Spelling Bea to the pabulum aisle please?

  • dragon poker

    Where is your outrage over Barney Franks?

    I am not outraged over Barney Franks behavior. He is what he claims to be. There are no surprises with him. You know what you get with Barney. He is a liberal gay man with piles of skeletons in his closet. We all know this, and his voters know this.
    Foley on the other hand, claimed to be something he was not, and brought a fair amount of ruin to the GOP with his poor behavior. He gave the Dems just what they wanted, and they used it against the GOP with great skill. Foley was in large part responsible for the beginning of the great downfall of the GOP, and I resent that alot.
    Blaming the Dems for using it to their advantage is not intellectually honest. The GOP would have done the same thing had they had that ammo to work with.
    If Barney Frank gave the GOP exploitable ammo, that would be fine with me. The problem is that he cant, because for all his faults, Barney Frank is willing to admit what he is. Foley is not. Thats the outrage.

  • dragon poker

    It was a guy named Mark Foley, who the Dem culture of corruption used as gay smear against all Republicans

    Surely you are not defending what Foley did?
    Blame the Dems all you want, that doesnt change the responsibility of the individule who committed the serious transgression.
    You give the ammo to the opposition, then blame the opposition for using it.
    Not a good plan.

  • http://sillytroll.com/ Dino2

    The Conservative Revolution. The New Republican Century. The Permanent Conservative Majority.

    Oh how you people would love to forget creating those phrases and crowing about how you ideas dominated the agenda and set the political tone of the last 30 years.

    The masses haven’t forgotten. They blame the capitalists, bush and the republicans for our present situation.

    We’re going to destroy you people in 2010.

  • robert108

    To sum up, dumb little groupie: Little dinostem lied about the cause for the narrow Dem victory in ’06; he said it was about Abramhoff(who had as many Dem buddies as Republican ones, although the MSM tried to cover up that fact), it was about the gay smear campaign against Republicans using the persecution of Mark Foley(who was never indicted for any crime).
    You then tried to change the subject by lying about Mark Foley, and I smacked you with the truth, pointing out your hypocrisy of using gay smear against a Republican, but not against a flaming Corruptocrat like Frank.

  • robert108

    Little ribby: Any indictments or convictions to support your claims? Nice cherry-picking, as usual. You really have the “Ransom Note Method” down pat. That’s good, because the facts are never on your side.

  • robert108

    Nice try at irrelevant and fact-free namecalling, little groupie. Still no facts, logic or cause and effect reasoning, I see; along with your usual inability to stay on topic.

    Do you have anything intelligent to offer on the subject of this thread?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    pabulum
    One entry found.

    Main Entry: pab·u·lum
    Pronunciation: \ˈpa-byə-ləm\
    Function: noun
    Etymology: Latin, food, fodder; akin to Latin pascere to feed — more at food
    Date: 1733
    1: food ; especially : a suspension or solution of nutrients in a state suitable for absorption
    2: intellectual sustenance
    3: something (as writing or speech) that is insipid, simplistic, or bland

    Ya know r180, like most of what you write.

  • robert108

    Little ribby: You are wrong, as usual:

    From Merriam-Webster:

    pablum
    One entry found.

    Main Entry:
    pab·lum Listen to the pronunciation of pablum
    Pronunciation:
    \ˈpa-bləm\
    Function:
    noun
    Etymology:
    from Pablum, a trademark for an infant cereal
    Date:
    1932

    It’s a predigested cereal for little babies, like you and your leftie buttbuddies.

  • Bat One

    Dragon,

    You told Robert,

    You are a dipshit and I will treat you the way you treat others.

    But aren’t you the weakling (and the hypocrite!) who earlier said this.

    Telling folks that something is ok since the other guys does stuff also is weak…

    If you are going to use your indignation at Robert’s comments to justify your own, then you have no business telling others NOT to do the same thing, do you?

  • carrick

    Hey Dragon Poker, nice detailed intellectual analysis.

    Mind if I use it in a scholarly paper I’m writing? With attribution of course.

    /laughingoffmindlessidiots

  • dragon poker

    Bat,
    I only treat knobert like this, and I do it for a reason. There is no debate with it(knobert), only its constant bullying and blather.
    So, in answer, yes it is a bit hypocritical of me, but I balance that with the understanding that there is no hope for real debate with it(knobert), and the way it(knobert) throws itself around here, I am pretty safe saying it(knobert) gives alot more than it(knobert) takes.
    Guilty as charged, but with the understanding that knobert is a special case. Bullies should be challenged and revealed as to what they are whenever possible, and he is the biggest bully on the SAB block.

  • http://sillytroll.com/ Dino2

    A republican proposing tax cuts is “fresh air”?

    More like a day old fart trapped in a spacesuit.

    It’s the one-trick pony strategy that has helped destroy our economy.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    gop Bait and Switch.

    It started in Jan. ‘81.

    Huh?

  • robert108

    Well then it’s about time they started getting attention.

    Well, now it’s convenient for the MSM to be doing their “Party of No” propaganda, isn’t it?
    Forgive me if I’m wrong, but you seemed to be saying that Republicans never did this before, and that wasn’t accurate. The combination of RINOs and Spendocrats just kept it from happening during the Bush administration; the spending cuts, that is. We did pass tax rate cuts.

  • http://sillytroll.com/ Dino2

    You foolishly think that the republicans’ downfall was due solely to their spending.

    How very wrong that is.

    Remember a guy named Abramoff and all the other republican scandals that took power away from them in 2006?

    How about the recession that started in Dec 07? The bank failures, financial sector meltdown? Housing crash? Credit crisis? Horribly unpopular republican President? Trillion dollar deficits?

    Lots of choices o what debacle helped destroy the republican party, not the least of which is the fact that they’re such ignorant ASSHOLES.

  • Mickey

    Elect a Republican president in 2012 and hold him to it.

  • dragon poker

    pablum

    The only food knoberts old worn out intestines can handle. Still, the poopypants persist, hence the depends.

  • robert108

    So, nothing to say, as usual, little ribby?

  • dragon poker

    knobert,
    More blather and name calling by you makes no difference. You present opinion as fact and pretend your shit doesnt stink. You deflect, avoid, disregard, and bully. You are a dipshit and I will treat you the way you treat others.
    Use the last few pathetic years(weeks I hope) you have left on this earth any way you want(buying your depends and yelling at children to get off your lawn), but this is a one way street. I will tell you what I think, then I will ignore you. You deserve nothing more and should expect nothing more. Being irrelevant must suck for you. 29,869 and still nothing. Tragic.

  • robert108

    Actually, Rob, there have been Republicans proposing this all along. I know we did it during both Clinton and Carter, so this is nothing new. Even during the Bush administration, there were Republicans who opposed his spending, while supporting his tax rate cuts.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Actually, Rob, there have been Republicans proposing this all along.

    Well then it’s about time they started getting attention.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Carrick, you fool, you’ve forgotten the first rule of liberalism: It’s ok when liberals do it.

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