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Friday, August 24, 2007


Not Everyone Defaulting On Their Home Mortgage Is A Victim

I’m shocked:

Memo to the media: Everyone who is defaulting on a home mortgage is not necessarily a victim.

I feel sorry for anyone in that situation. Losing a home is an awful thing. Some were undoubtedly pressured into buying by unscrupulous lenders. Too many greedy players on Wall Street got away with making shaky loans for too long. They sliced and diced mortgage debt into increasingly exotic paper and lost sight of the risks involved, figuring the Fed would bail them out if things got out of hand.

Of course, the way to protect against that sort of behavior in the future is for the government to deny everyone, from borrowers to lenders, any bailouts at all.  They should all reap the consequences of their own bad decisions.

That’s not going to happen, though, because politicians are in charge.  All politicians have constituencies, and they’re all going to pander to those constituencies by making them out to be victims and then working to get them a government payout.

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Comments

Where’s my bailout for the net worth I lost back in 2000 to March of 2003, caused by the Clinton/Gore tax increases, tech bubble and algore’s Y2K fiasco?


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Kevin on August 24, 2007 at 08:23 am
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I watched a news article on this several months back down here in the Twin Cities.  A guy was going to a house to repossess the house.  It was a relatively expensive house, something like $350-400,000 and parked out front was a luxury car and a Hummer H2.  Extended themselves too far without thinking of the long term consequences.  Something that I think credit card companies have trained a lot of Americans to do.

GregB999 on August 24, 2007 at 10:06 am

This is about bailing out the mortgage lenders who give money to the politicians.


1% of Americans pay 40% of the income tax.
5% of Americans pay 60% of the income tax.
10% of Americans pay 70% of the income tax.


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The Whistler on August 24, 2007 at 10:17 am

Something that I think credit card companies have trained a lot of Americans to do.

Yes, in those training centers where the people are forced to attend at gunpoint.  /sarcasm


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on August 24, 2007 at 10:25 am
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Well, guessing that the Fed is going to bail you out has historically been good business, and that fact had to have weighed on the minds of those underwriting those loans.  It’s not like the Fed is going to allow deflation or anything when loans go bad and contract the money supply, after all.

Robert Perry on August 24, 2007 at 01:05 pm
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Yes, in those training centers where the people are forced to attend at gunpoint.  /sarcasm

They’re called homes and universities/colleges.  Students are often given credit cards and it’s often implied that it’s free money.  No one, from parents on down, seems to teach how to budget anymore.  And it’s not something they seem to learn by the time they’re out looking to buy a house.

GregB999 on August 25, 2007 at 03:42 pm

it’s often implied that it’s free money.

I’m going to call you on that one.


1% of Americans pay 40% of the income tax.
5% of Americans pay 60% of the income tax.
10% of Americans pay 70% of the income tax.


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The Whistler on August 25, 2007 at 03:44 pm

Who would have thought that deregulated financial markets would be unable to regulate themselves? Me! Looks like ol’ uncle Milty was wrong yet again.

This reminds me of a quote I saw the other day:

Why will capitalism always survive? Because socialism will always be used to save it.—Ralph Nader’s Dad


“Keynes had located the fundamental defect of the free market system in its incapacity to distinguish between `speculation’ and `enterprise.’ Hence, it had a tendency to be dominated by speculators, interested not in the long-term yield on assets but only in the short-term appreciation in asset values. Their whims and caprices, causing sharp swings in asset prices, determined the magnitude of productive investment and, therefore, the level of aggregate demand, employment and output in the economy. The real lives of millions of people were determined by the whims of ‘a bunch of speculators’ under the free market system.”—Prabhat Patnaik

Angry Vertebrate on August 25, 2007 at 06:06 pm

The free enterprise system is the natural order of things, when people are free to make free choices in a market where they own the means of production and the capital, and where they are free to do what makes sense for them.
Socialism always fails because it’s totalitarian, and the human spirit yearns to be free.

As far as Ralph Nader’s dad is concerned, the apple doesn’t fall very far from the tree.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on August 25, 2007 at 06:15 pm

The free enterprise system is the natural order of things…—Robert108

Says who? I hope you have some evidence to back that up.


“Keynes had located the fundamental defect of the free market system in its incapacity to distinguish between `speculation’ and `enterprise.’ Hence, it had a tendency to be dominated by speculators, interested not in the long-term yield on assets but only in the short-term appreciation in asset values. Their whims and caprices, causing sharp swings in asset prices, determined the magnitude of productive investment and, therefore, the level of aggregate demand, employment and output in the economy. The real lives of millions of people were determined by the whims of ‘a bunch of speculators’ under the free market system.”—Prabhat Patnaik

Angry Vertebrate on August 25, 2007 at 07:52 pm
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I’m going to call you on that one.

OK, I deserve that one.  The credit card companies are careful about that, but friends really push the college students on that.  Probably because those self-same friends are already having credit card problems and want to go out and continue to have fun…

I’ve also heard young people talking in restaurants about the shock of actually having to pay a credit card bill.

And I do remember friends getting credit card offers in the early ‘90s that talked about all the cash they could get in nice large print and kept the fine print on the back, out of the way.

GregB999 on August 25, 2007 at 09:08 pm

Greg: T’was truly said:  “A fool and his money are soon parted.”  The remedy for foolishness is life experience.  You expect too much from the young, and blaming others for their errors doesn’t help.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on August 25, 2007 at 09:13 pm
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