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Thursday, August 31, 2006

North Dakota is a High Tax State

North Dakota historically has been a low tax state. That fit in with the self reliant attitude by North Dakotans. We felt that government had it's place and that was good enough. It looks like we are at a crossroads as to the direction North Dakota is going to go. Back in April Brenarlo found this source (link added oops) that showed that North Dakota had jumped to 21st in taxes per capita.
North Dakota was the other big gainer, moving up seven spots to No. 21.
So we went from 28th in 2004 to 21st in 2005. I got to thinking that North Dakota percapita earnings were under average while our per capita taxes were well above average. What would our effective tax rate be comparing the per capita income with the per capita taxes. I found the per capita income on a spreadsheet I downloaded from the Bureau of Economic Analysis. We came out with an effective tax rate of 7%. North Dakota didn't jump up the list that much when it came to this analysis. But is is clear that North Dakota is the 19th highest taxed state in this country. Eighteen states tax more than us and 31 tax lower than us. For comparison Minnesota is at 8.3%, South Dakota (my heroes) is at 4.5% and Montana is at 6.5%. When the legislature meets next year they are going to set the course of whether North Dakota goes the way of the high tax states or back to our traditional belief in government. Right now we are sitting with an huge deficit SURPLUS (corrected). Everyone in government has a plan to spend it, from even higher teacher salaries, to spending it on higher higher education to a farm disaster fund. I say we are taxed too high and it must be returned to the tax payer. Every legislative season the legislature looks at what they spent last time and grows it. If we grow state spending with the surplus they'll want an increase on top of the windfall they get this year. So when Governor Hoeven and the state legislature meet next year are they going to push us higher up the list or are we going to take a time out in the growth of state government. I included all of my figures on the extended entry.

I apologize for the spacing. I put spaces in to create columns but it didn't work for some reason. Anyway the data's all there. 2005 Per Capita Tax Per Capita Income Tax Rate 1 Vermont $3,600.16 33,327 10.8% 2 Hawaii $3,477.93 34,539 10.1% 3 Wyoming $3,417.77 36,778 9.3% 4 Arkansas $2,357.84 26,874 8.8% 5 Delaware $3,228.79 37,065 8.7% 6 West Virginia $2,367.17 27,215 8.7% 7 New Mexico $2,319.23 27,644 8.4% 8 Minnesota $3,093.93 37,373 8.3% 9 Alaska $2,786.90 35,612 7.8% 10 Louisiana $1,909.52 24,820 7.7% 11 Kentucky $2,178.50 28,513 7.6% 12 Maine $2,323.12 31,252 7.4% 13 California $2,724.31 37,036 7.4% 14 Mississippi $1,859.69 25,318 7.3% 15 Idaho $2,053.51 28,158 7.3% 16 Michigan $2,404.95 33,116 7.3% 17 Wisconsin $2,429.96 33,565 7.2% 18 North Carolina$2,146.68 30,553 7.0% 19 North Dakota $2,202.97 31,395 7.0% 20 Connecticut $3,300.49 47,819 6.9% 21 Utah $1,897.32 28,061 6.8% 22 Rhode Island $2,443.07 36,153 6.8% 23 Washington $2,359.99 35,409 6.7% 24 Oklahoma $1,933.21 29,330 6.6% 25 Indiana $2,049.42 31,276 6.6% 26 Montana $1,910.14 29,387 6.5% 27 Ohio $2,094.08 32,478 6.4% 28 New York $2,606.62 40,507 6.4% 29 Nebraska $2,158.36 33,616 6.4% 30 Massachusetts $2,815.23 44,289 6.4% 31 Pennsylvania $2,193.32 34,897 6.3% 32 Kansas $2,039.60 32,836 6.2% 33 Arizona $1,853.58 30,267 6.1% 34 South Carolina $1,719.95 28,352 6.1% 35 New Jersey $2,630.31 43,771 6.0% 36 Iowa $1,938.85 32,315 6.0% 37 Alabama $1,711.27 29,136 5.9% 38 Nevada $2,074.72 35,883 5.8% 39 Maryland $2,410.23 41,760 5.8% 40 Florida $1,905.28 33,219 5.7% 41 Illinois $2,069.40 36,120 5.7% 42 Oregon $1,791.45 32,103 5.6% 43 Georgia $1,727.73 31,121 5.6% 44 Virginia $2,103.72 38,390 5.5% 45 Tennessee $1,678.23 31,107 5.4% 46 Missouri $1,645.49 31,899 5.2% 47 South Dakota $1,430.46 31,614 4.5% 48 Texas $1,434.16 32,462 4.4% 49 Colorado $1,639.54 37,946 4.3% 50 New Hampshire $1,543.62 38,408 4.0%

Comments

Avatar for Angus McMurphy

Right now we are sitting with an huge deficit.

I know you meant “surplus”.  Just pointing it out.

Angus McMurphy on August 31, 2006 at 08:13 am

OMG.  Thanks Angus.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on August 31, 2006 at 08:15 am
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It’s nice that someone finally recognizes our greatness (South Dakota).  Thank you!

Chad on August 31, 2006 at 09:20 am

Well I was confining my opinion to taxes.  Bbut you’re better than Montana.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on August 31, 2006 at 09:28 am
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Just compare what what your percentage of state income taxes is to your federal income taxes. It’s obscene and all a result of the decoupling of ND state income taxes from Federal income taxes right before federal income taxes were cut!

KevindF on August 31, 2006 at 09:31 am

Good point Kevin.  I’m paying more in state income taxes than federal income taxes.  That’s not to mention the state sales tax for which there’s no federal counterpart.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on August 31, 2006 at 09:53 am
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I missed where you got the per capita tax data.  I didn’t see it anywhere on the linked page.

It seems a little fishy to me because Texas, while having no income tax, has a relatively high average property tax rate and one of the highest sales taxes in the nation.

kbiel on August 31, 2006 at 12:11 pm

I’m very sorry about that.  I missed the link.

Here it is and I’m also putting it on the main post.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on August 31, 2006 at 12:26 pm
Avatar for kbiel

Thanks, that helps.

We must have a lot of apartment dwellers here (and we do) because our property tax is way to high for our per capita tax to be that low if you only count property owners.

I guess I should quit complaining and move into an apartment myself.

kbiel on August 31, 2006 at 12:52 pm
Avatar for Richard Crabapple

How was this calculated? Does it reflect all taxes, or just state income taxes? I suspect something is being left out. The Taxpayers Network, hardly a liberal cover, ranks ND 43rd in its local and state tax burden, which looks more accurate than the number cited here. Are we really to believe that ND’s tax burden is higher than Mass, New Jersey and Connecticut? (taxpayersnetwork.org)

Richard Crabapple on August 31, 2006 at 01:14 pm
Avatar for gilbyguy

Wistler — I agree we need to be carefu in the rate of gov’t growth and that the “surplus” is going to make that difficult.

I do want to point out that the outfit that says ND is a High Tax state (stateline.org) is wholly funded by the Pew Charitable Trust.

No offense but considering the source I’m not sure I trust the results.

gilbyguy on August 31, 2006 at 01:45 pm

Let’s see on another thread you said the total state budget was about 5 bil.  Divide that by two to get a yearly figure.  2.5b.  Divide that by 600,000 and you come up with about 4k per person.

Stateline claims that our taxes are 2.2K per head, I imagine most of the rest could be made up with federal funds?

That brings up an interesting fact.  The general fund is about a billion dollars a year.  Most people aren’t aware that our total budget is so much higher.

Thanks for your contributions here BTW.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on September 1, 2006 at 04:21 am
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