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Monday, March 31, 2008

North Dakota Democrats Will Have Hillary Speak At Convention As Well

The Democrats are getting both of their remaining Presidential candidates at their state convention.

Which, as much as I hate to admit it, is pretty impressive.

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No Way, No How am I going to be in town this weekend.

Hopefully we get an Alberta Clipper blowing through to clean the place up.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on March 31, 2008 at 01:14 pm

Will there be an 8-year-old girl on the tarmac to greet her?

Ah, but that’s a coup for the Dems, if not the NPL, no doubt about it.

I really am looking forward to the invocation: Dear Father, we humbly beseech you, no, not to God save America, but to God damn America.

Amen.

Pomerdorgrad on March 31, 2008 at 01:24 pm

This just goes to show how desperate these people are.

Kevin on March 31, 2008 at 01:42 pm

Good Gracious Kevin, I absolutely agree with you 100%.  We are desperate to get rid of Bush and we have two great candidates who will stop a third Bush term.  Thanks.

Puzzlefeet on March 31, 2008 at 04:49 pm

Puzzlefeet, is George Bush going to be on the ballot in November?  There is a little thing you might not have heard of called the Constitution that limits presidents to 2 terms in the White House. 

You liberals need to get over the fact that President Bush isn’t on the ballot cause saying so won’t help you.  The American people are too smart to buy that!

And how would McCain be more of a 3rd term president than having Clinton in the White House again?



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dougee on March 31, 2008 at 04:57 pm

we have two great candidates who will stop a third Bush term.

Heh, Hillary and Obama are not exactly Roosevelt and Truman.

Why anyone thinks these two are ‘great’ is beyond me.

Ken McCracken on March 31, 2008 at 05:06 pm

Oh, au contraire, Dougee, I think the public is smart enough to realize that McCain is the third Bush term.  Why are you running away from Bush?  I’ve never heard Reagan’s name so much over the last 6-8 months fromn the Republicans because they are running from the Bush presidency too.

Come on Dougee, embrace Pres Bush, we plan to show Bush and McCain regularly embracing.

Puzzlefeet on March 31, 2008 at 05:08 pm
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we have two great candidates who will stop a third Bush term.

Someone get this lady a tinfoil hat! STAT! First of all, we have a Constitution that will stop a third Bush term.
Second, ”two great candidates”? When do we get to meet them? And won’t Hillary and Barack be mad at being replaced this late in the game???  smile



For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

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Proof on March 31, 2008 at 05:09 pm

I think the public is smart enough to realize that McCain is the third Bush term.

How is McCain just like Bush?  Until he got the GOP nomination the liberal media loved him and they hate President Bush.

Why are you running away from Bush?

I am not running away from my President!  I think he has done an amazing job keeping our country safe after 9/11.  There has been what like 34 consecutive months of job growth?  The stockmarket has reached an all time high under Bush’s presidency.  Bush’s tax cuts helped jump start our economy after the tragedy of 9/11.  I 100% agree with his veto on embryonic stem cell research (McCain is for it). 

Get a clue.



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dougee on March 31, 2008 at 05:30 pm

I’ve never heard Reagan’s name so much over the last 6-8 months fromn the Republicans because they are running from the Bush presidency too.

So wouldn’t McCain saying he was a foot soldier in the Reagan revolution mean that he is running away from the Bush presidency?

On another note your argument is full of holes and can’t hold the water of reality.



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dougee on March 31, 2008 at 05:32 pm

Well, then Dougee, you should be proud that McCain is running for the third Bush term.  Really, why are you all getting so bent out of shape? 

Perhaps you can tell me how many times the republican presidential candidates mentioned Bush in the debates and how many times they mentioned Reagon a president from almost 25 years ago. 

Oh yeah and the economy is doing just peachy.

Puzzlefeet on March 31, 2008 at 05:47 pm

You did a nice job of trying to dance around the question but you did not answer it.  You said that the GOP is mentioning Reagan because they are running away from Bush.  So by your own logic doesn’t that mean that McCain is running away from another Bush term when he mentions Reagan in every one of his speeches?  I hope you will answer the question this time.

I haven’t kept track but the GOP has mentioned Reagan a lot more than Reagen because of his steadfast conservative principles.  They want to establish themselves as a conservative to the base of the GOP party.



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dougee on March 31, 2008 at 05:59 pm

Reagan a lot more than Bush, sorry.



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dougee on March 31, 2008 at 06:07 pm

Dougee queries: how would McCain be more of a 3rd term president than having Clinton in the White House again? Clinton had much higher favorables at the end of his term than Bush does at the end of his.  Therefore, no republican nominee will run using Bush as a sailwind so you have to go all the way back to Reagan to sell a 21st Century republican candidate.

Puzzlefeet on March 31, 2008 at 06:08 pm

Dougee queries: how would McCain be more of a 3rd term president than having Clinton in the White House again?

I don’t know that is the question I asked you.  Here is what I wrote

And how would McCain be more of a 3rd term president than having Clinton in the White House again?

And what does favorable ratings have to do with everything.  Didn’t Hitler have 97% approval ratings before he killed himself?

McCain uses Reagan because like I said earlier the GOP party has a great amount of respect for him.  And you still cannot answer my question



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dougee on March 31, 2008 at 06:15 pm

Boy Dougee, I think what I put in block quote is exactly what you wrote in your earlier post.  I cut and pasted it exactly.  Your repeat of the query is the exact same wording.

Way to bring Godwin’s law into it.  The point was that if Bush had ratings in the 60s or 70s McCain and you all would be citing Bush all over the place.  But you aren’t and neither is McCain.

Puzzlefeet on March 31, 2008 at 06:36 pm

My bad on that but you did not put my question in block quotes (no block around my question) in your 7:08 post.  But here is some points that proves that McCain will not be another Bush.

Bush supports guantanemo bay, McCain said he would close it.

Bush is against embryonic stem cell research.  McCain supports it.

Bush turned down the Kyoto Protocol.  McCain just said last week in a speech that he would bring us into it.

Bush is for coercive interrogation techniques such as waterboarding while McCain is against such measures.

How are they one and the same?



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dougee on March 31, 2008 at 06:52 pm

I would just love to know what kind of disguise The Wistler will wear when he goes to oogle Hillary.

You know he’s got a secret crush on the lady.


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gilbyguy on March 31, 2008 at 07:20 pm

I just threw up in my mouth a bit there.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on March 31, 2008 at 07:38 pm

Dougee, he would stay in Iraq for 50 or 100 years, make the Bush tax cuts permanent, fund charter schools, supported the cutting of Chip. That’s how they are one and the same.

Puzzlefeet on March 31, 2008 at 07:57 pm

Puzzlefeet, how could McCain keep the troops in Iraq for 50-100 years much less live more than 10-20?  I thought there were term limits limiting McCain to 8 years as president.  That’s what my pocket constitution said the last time I looked at it. 

And even pmsnbc gave Obama and Hillary 4 pinocchios for distorting what John McCain said.

You just don’t want a president who is the least bit conservative.  You would much rather have Obama be president and force children in kindergarden to have sex ed.

No thanks, I’ll even take McCain with his liberal policies over that!  And it seems that most independents agree with me.



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dougee on March 31, 2008 at 08:11 pm

You’re right,Dougee, I don’t want a president who is conservative.  And get a grip on the sex ed crap.

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he would stay in Iraq for 50 or 100 years

Unlike Germany or Japan of Korea? I’m over fifty years old and was born just slightly before the Korean Conflict.
Harry Truman (a Democrat at last count) sent the troops in. Can you tell me which Democrat president brought them all home?



For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

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or Korea

(Sorry!)


For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

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we have two great candidates who will stop a third Bush term. 

Someone needs a civics lesson.

I blame the public schools.


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make the Bush tax cuts permanent, fund charter schools,

Wait, those are bad things?  More money in my pocket and a better education for my kids?

Man, you liberals aren’t even trying to hide it any more are you?


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Rob on March 31, 2008 at 08:58 pm

Tax cuts to liberals is like a crucifix to a vampire.

Don’t forget: it is the government’s money not yours, and if they deign to let you keep a little of it, you’d damn well better be grateful!

Ken McCracken on March 31, 2008 at 09:20 pm

You’re completely right Ken.  And on the sex ed “crap” it’s what your candidate said, not mine.



A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.

dougee on March 31, 2008 at 09:46 pm

Dougee, cite the entire quote not the selective piece of what he said, which is typical of you righties.

Puzzlefeet on April 1, 2008 at 04:01 am

Okay, I will just as soon as you answer my question as how McCain will keep the troops in Iraq for more than 8 years. 

BTW, that liberal argument is weak and is typical of you lefties.



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