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Monday, October 31, 2005

North Dakota Democrats Making Trip To Cuba

For the last week or so Democrats have been roundly criticizing the state Republicans for taking a trip to Antigua to discuss trade relations and internet gambling, a trip that was paid for by the Antiguan government.

Now, however, state Democrats are taking a trip of their own. To Cuba. And who is picking up the tab for this trip?

North Dakota taxpayers.

Fargo Forum - North Dakota Republican legislators who took a trip to Antigua early this month, paid for by the Antiguan government, pounced when they saw Agriculture Commissioner Roger Johnson, a Democrat, announce he’s leading a trade trip to Cuba this week.

State Democrats have roundly criticized the Antigua trip, even though no law prohibits state officials from accepting gifts or trips from businesses, lobbyists or foreign governments.

Why doesn’t Johnson’s news release say who is paying for his Cuba trip? the Republicans asked.

We asked Johnson, who said the state Agriculture Department’s marketing budget is paying for the Cuba trip.


Democrats have blasted the Republicans and their Antigua trip as "pandering to foreign interests," among other things. Yet the Dems seem to have no problems making a similar trip themselves. The only difference is that they're going to bill the taxpayers for this trip. The Republican trip didn't cost taxpayers a nickle.

Also note the interesting way the Forum reports this story. When state Democrats "pounced" on the trip to Antigua it certainly wasn't reported that way by Janell Cole in the Forum. Janell reported the trip and then gave plenty of room for quotes from Democrats condemning the trip while giving the short end of the stick to the Republicans trying to defend their trip.

Now, when the roles are reversed, the story doesn't even merit it's own article and the Republicans are depicted as a bunch of back-biting malcontents.

A little balance from the Forum should would be nice.

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Hard to believe

even though no law prohibits state officials from accepting gifts or trips from businesses, lobbyists or foreign governments.

WOOF on October 31, 2005 at 10:10 am
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"We asked Johnson, who said the state Agriculture Department’s marketing budget is paying for the Cuba trip.”

What a joke!! I’m sure that Cuba has a lot of agriculture products that will grow in North Dakota, NOT.  It seems that the leftist liberals in North Dakota are also Castro suck-ups.

docdave on October 31, 2005 at 10:10 am
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docdave this is about selling ND agri products to Castro.

However that is supposed to work when there is supposed to be an economic (and travel) embargo.

likwidshoe on October 31, 2005 at 11:10 am
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docdave this is about selling ND agri products to Castro.

N. Dakota could get rich with a Cohiba Franchise.

WOOF on October 31, 2005 at 11:10 am
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Why do the good people of North Dakota want to do business with a sanctioned dictator?  This sounds alarmingly similar to the Iraqi ‘oil for food’ fiasco.

docdave on October 31, 2005 at 12:10 pm
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I find it interesting as it seems to me that Roger Johnson is being groomed to run for perhaps Dorgan’s seat in 2010. 

Why would he want to associate himself with the last of the Communists?

If anything trade (after the embargo opens up)with Cuba is going to have to be pretty much barter.  Cuba exports Cigars (I don’t use them, but ok; and cane sugar.)

I would think there were better countries to spend our hard earned tax money on.

The Whistler on October 31, 2005 at 07:10 pm
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I agree with Whistler that Cuba doesn’t have much to exchange for North Dakota products.  I doubt that they have much hard cash so barter is probably going to be necessary.  My memory tells me that besides cigars, the most significant Cuban export was communist revolutions that they sent to various parts of the Caribbean and Africa. Don’t think there is a place for that in North Dakota.

docdave on November 1, 2005 at 11:11 am
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The idea is to be in Cuba so when it opens up the mechanisms for trade are in place.
Castro and the embargo can’t live forever, so unless we invade we have to compete in the world market. 10 million Cubans eat a lot of chicken and rice. To large and close a market to ignore.

WOOF on November 1, 2005 at 03:11 pm
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YOu may be right, Woof, but as far as North Dakotans are concerned there are better opportunities on which to spend our time.  Antigua being one of them.


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I would think there were better countries to spend our hard earned tax money on.

Like, say, the new Democratic government in Antigua?


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Rob on November 1, 2005 at 03:11 pm
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