North Dakota Astroturfing Story Makes The New York Times

A few days ago I posted about ads being run in North Dakota by the Environmental Defense Fund looking pay “activists” to go around with cell phones and convince people to call their congressman in support of cap and trade. That post attracted some mainstream media attention, and today there’s an article about it in the New York Times (complete with quotes from yours truly).
The entire article is worth reading. For my part though, I think it’s interesting that the EDF denies that they’re hiring activists….when their ad specifically used the word “activists.”
Also, a point I stressed to the reporter didn’t exactly come through in the article. That point is that I don’t really have a problem with the EDF hiring activists. A lot of political groups do that, and there’s not necessarily anything wrong with it. It’s just that, given the current political context with Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the liberals screaming “astroturfing” and “extremists” every time a few tea party protesters get together, the EDF and other liberal groups actually astroturfing (by the liberal left’s definition) is noteworthy.
Of course, nobody is paying the tea party/town hall protesters to do what they’re doing. They’re motivated by a deep mistrust with those running our government right now. But even if they were being paid, and again they’re not, the liberals have no room to talk about paying activists.

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  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Yeah, but will it be covered by the Fargo Forum?

  • Pilgrim

    Good catch, Rob. The more light that shines on these cockroaches the better.

    If they can’t play with a stacked deck, they can’t win and they know it.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    2H9′er,

    The NYT / Gray Lady has been run by the Father-son Punch – Pinch Sulzberger (kill the American soldier) crowd.

    During the Vietnam War, New York Times scion Arthur “Pinch” Sulzberger told his father that if an American soldier ran into a North Vietnamese soldier, he would prefer for the American to get shot. “It’s the other guy’s country,” he explained.

    In Washington, at least, get the Washington Times. Thinner than the WaPo, but has better and more accurate reporting than the Pravda on the Potomac.

    For other Daily News, there’s DRUDGE, American Thinker (Commentary), NewsMax, NewswithViews, WorldNetDaily and a raft of good blogs like Sweetness and Light, Flopping Aces and MoonBattery.

    That’s enough to get you in trouble at work.

  • headward

    Wow, I think that’s one of the most objective article coming from the NYTimes.

    Nice work Rob. Keep up the good work. They quoted you saying we’re a coal state. I would expand that to saying that we’re strong in oil as well. Not to mention Cap and Tax will hurt ranchers and farmers.

  • mplsbob

    NYT writing about this? wow. Nice job Rob. The reason that the Dems are always saying conservatives are astroturfing is because they are projecting. They just can’t believe that real people would take time out of the day to voice their disgust with the elitist cogressmen without paying them.
    Thats how they do it. They need to pay those smelly hippies to do anything.

  • Bat One

    Very nice! Congratulations.

    If you’re gonna get quoted by the NYT you probably should do it quickly… while there still is a NYT!

  • Greg

    Had they included the point you stressed it would have changed the tone of the article.

    Congratulations, Rob!

  • Buzz

    Nice going rob, though I am a little surprised you are flexible enough to actually pat yourself on the back.

    Regardless, you should be proud of yourself.

  • ndhojo

    Spot on Rob !

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com/ Bike Bubba

    Now a bit more to do; does the EDF get any government money? if it does, as does ACORN, we have government astroturf.

    Rob, suggest that you might do well to elucidate what you do to find some of these things out. I reckon it could change the entire political tone of this nation if a few more guys like you with good basic curiousity and analytical skills were asking these questions and presenting it to an audience.

    Ironically, I’m suggesting you could help the journalists out by starting, effectively, a journalism school like they are supposed to have attended–but obviously didn’t learn journalism in so doing. :^)

  • http://grandforker.com/ Patrick C. Miller

    Good job of of using the old, dead media to get your point across, Rob. ;-)

  • FlyOnTheWall

    Nice going Rob.

    when their ad specifically used the word “activists.”

    Well, “is he an activist” or “is he an activist”? See, the meaning completely changes based on what your definition of ‘is’ is.

  • 2Hotel9

    Good job, Rob. Too bad I dumped NYT from my newsfeed in favor of Al Jazeera and Watching America and Channelnewsasia. Thanks for the link!

    I have been calling for people to respond to these type ads, infiltrate their operations, collect those phat paychecks and undermine the hell out of them.

  • Spartacus

    The EDF is running ads her in Indiana too, complaining that our Representatives are caving in for out of state interests and special interest groups, yet they fail to mention in their ads that they too are a special interest group that doesn’t have an office in this state, cry babies.

  • FlyOnTheWall

    Spartie, you’re making it a joy to visit the page.

    Too bad I dumped NYT from my newsfeed in favor of Al Jazeera

    2H9, I had trouble with how blatantly anti-American the NYT could be too.

  • 2Hotel9

    Their online edition is clunky, and the majority of their articles are just,,,,fluff. Crap. Asinine. I kept having access issues, it kept dropping off of my bloglines feed for no apparent reason. As for bias, AJ is quite open about theirs, NYT, as most American and European news services, is blatantly biased against America and western culture, and pretend otherwise to the point of just pissing me off. It is hard enough to go through WaPo each morning, I just couldn’t muster the ambition to wade through NYT, too.

    If you want to know what is actually going on in the ME go to AJ,you will get it from their perspective, and they actually know the playas!

  • jimmypop

    Yeah, but will it be covered by the Fargo Forum?

    the event will get more press than the tea party. bank on it.

    the fact these people are all paid will make a line on the last page.

  • 2Hotel9

    MZ, I sweep all those on a semi-regular basis, although I have little use for Drudge, he is simply another entrant in the MSM race to the bottom as far as I am concerned. He does not really give a shit about America, just being popular with the “in” crowd.

    I used to be a subscriber to WashTimes, but they also kept having major technical problems for which I refuse to actually pay and their email headline service only worked about 2 days out of the week, switched them over to my bloglines feed and it got worse.

    My regular morning news read-in, http://www.chinaview.cn/ , http://www.foxnews.com/ , http://news.bbc.co.uk/ , http://www.breitbart.com/ , http://watchingamerica.com/News/ , http://english.aljazeera.net/

    That on top of answering email from multiple blogs makes for a rather full 05:30 to 07:00. Also have the radio on, tuned to 104.7 out of Pittsburgh.

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    ROB big honor to be noticed by the New York Times, I am sure most of the NE liberals that read this won’t even know where Minot North Dakota is but nice honor none the less.

  • WOOFX

    Congratulations.

  • sayanything-6955

    Yeah, but will it be covered by the Fargo Forum?

    Or the Bismarck tribune?

    Congrats young man!!

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Thanks for the kin words everyone.

    For the record, I did stress that nd is an oil state. But the context was cap and trade and oil so I guess that didn’t make the cut.

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