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North Dakota Approval For Bush Down

Approval for President Bush in North Dakota is at 43% according to SurveyUSA. That's pretty low for a state that had 62% of the population casting their votes for him back in November.

Why are they so low? Here's what one North Dakota leftist has to say:

Could North Dakota be rejecting the far-right neoconservative Moral Majority nonsense? It would be refreshing to see a return of Eisenhower-era Republicanism - those guys aren't the ones trying to tell you who to marry or willingly cutting 40,000 kids off of school lunches (though they may accuse you of being a Communist).


That's a typical reaction from the left to low poll numbers for the President, but is it true? Are people really getting down on the President because they're rejecting his "far-right" agenda? Certainly these same people knew what the President's agenda was when they put him in office, therefore I think that it is much more likely that the President is polling low because he's not accomplishing the "far-right" agenda Americans put him office to pursue.

I think that's something to remember when these negative polls are hyped by the left. Negative numbers on the President do not necessarily translate into positive numbers for Democrats. Americans may not be very happy with their President right now, but if there were another vote between him and John Kerry today he'd probably win again. And that 62% of North Dakotans would probably vote the same way they did in the first balloting.

Because people can be unhappy with current leadership and still reject the ideals of modern liberalism.

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[...] North Dakota Approval For Bush Down By Rob on November 19, 2005 at 2:02 pm [...]

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I’m not a pollster, but it seems the poll surveyed a skewed sample.  R (34%), D (27%), Ind (36%).  I suspect that to be an effective comparison to the election, this poll would have be much more heavily weighted to those with a Republican party preference. Here’s the link to the SurveyUSA page that gives the sample breakdown:

KB on November 19, 2005 at 09:11 pm
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KB:  There are many ways to skew a poll.  Unequal questioning in red and blue areas is one.  The exact question(s) also make a difference.  Were the subjects asked simply if they disapproved of the President, without being asked why they disapproved?  It may be that a lot of them want him to be more conservative, so that their disapproval doesn’t mean that they are no longer supporting the conservative agenda.

robert108 on November 19, 2005 at 09:12 pm
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It may be that a lot of them want him to be more conservative, so that their disapproval doesn’t mean that they are no longer supporting the conservative agenda.

In a state as red as North Dakota that is probably the case, though it gets a bit more complicated then that.  Bush has been talking about subsidy cuts.  That’s a big no-no for an Ag state like ND.

Overall, though, I don’t think the President has been taking too much flak from the Democrats without doing much to respond.  He isn’t taking a firm reign to advance his agenda, thus he’s looking weak to North Dakotans.

And his numbers are down, but how far down is open to question as KB shows with his link to the poll’s methodology.


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Rob on November 20, 2005 at 07:12 am
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Since I don’t live there, I will take your word for what is going on in ND, Rob.  If you look into the numbers a little farther, you will probably see that the approval numbers for the Dems have not gone up, which is the real story.  People are disapproving of politics in general, not just the President, but the MSM won’t tell you that.  I know it is true nationally.

robert108 on November 20, 2005 at 08:11 am
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By the same token, even the lockstep Dems have to be somewhat disillusioned by the unending attacks and obstructionist behavior from their side of the aisle. The Republicans, though, are only a victory in Iraq away from high approval.

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Absolutely, robert.  I think Americans are, in general, frustrated with their politicians.  With Bush, specifically, I think it has a lot to do with not advancing the agenda we put in him office to advance.

The key is that Bush’s numbers from Democrats probalby haven’t budged, while they’ve come down significantly from Republicans.


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Rob on November 20, 2005 at 01:12 pm
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That is my breakdown on B to. People put him in office expecting certain things. He has only produced on a few, and they are frustrated. I have been frustrated with government, local and Fed, most of my life. And now it is confession time! I have been using spellcheck since Wed. Hit it by accident, saw it did not automatically change things, which is what always pissed me off about spellcheck progs. Now when I misspell something, y’all will know I meant to. Ain’t the internet fun?!?!?

2Hotel9 on November 20, 2005 at 01:12 pm
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2h9:  I, too am dissatisfied with certain things the Prez has done or not done, specifically trying to be nice to the Dems and spending way too much on social stuff, but consider this:  In 2000, he was delayed with the Algore election crap for months, then the Clinton admin vandalism(remember that?).  Before he could even get a budget going, 9/11 happened, which took the entire attention of the nation for some time.  After that, he had to mobilize to compensate for the potential long-term damage to the economy by 9/11.  Since then, he has been focused on worldwide terrorism, plus having to deal with constant and unrelenting vicious attacks from both the Dems and their minions in the MSM.  Looking at it in that context, he isn’t doing too badly.  Factor in the disinformation campaigns in the MSM about both Iraq and the economy, and he is doing great.  Just the leader we need. When we went after Clinton without the help of the MSM, all he could do was hunker down and stick out his lower lip.

robert108 on November 20, 2005 at 02:12 pm
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r, on the whole I am not unhappy with W’s adminestering of our business, without the full support of his party in both houses of Congress AND the entrenched bureaucratic heads it is pretty much a suckers bet that one man can get much done.

2Hotel9 on November 20, 2005 at 03:12 pm
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