Braindead Brent: I hate to break it to you (actually, I don’t!), but putting one’s hand over one’s heart is not a “Nazi salute”, but it is certainly as accurate as anything else you’ve ever cr@pped out here!

If you want to educate yourself (got to be a first time for everything!) since you are so enamored of wikipedia, you could go here for an illustration of a “Nazi salute”:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_salute

BTW, I don’t have “trouble” with people like Dino or his dimwitted cousin Brent, they are merely a nuisance, like dog cr@p one might get on one’s shoes in the park.

Brent: If you think for an instant that I share any ideology with Dino, then your reading comprehension is on a par with that of burnt toast or you are irreparably brain damaged.

Either way, I shall waste no more time refuting your witless arguments tonight. Be sure to wash your hands after you’re through pulling your pud.

Proof,

Read the wikipedia links. You are once again on the side of a bunch of big government socialists… funny how that happens time and time again, isn’t it?

If you must know more, there are plenty of references at the bottom of the wikipedia links. There is also a book by John Baer called “The Pledge of Allegiance: A Centennial History, 1892-1992″ (Free State Press, 1992).

Bellamy was a “Jesus was a socialist” type of idiot who got kicked out of the clergy for it. He wrote the pledge because he wanted school children to look up to and have solidarity with the “one republic” — i.e., he hated the idea that the states were ever sovereign entities, because he wanted us all to be in “solidarity” with one big, centralized socialist state.

You can think whatever you want, but the pledge is decidedly revisionist — and revisionist in a socialist way by a socialist whack job — in its hostile treatment of America’s history and pro-liberty traditions.

I like those pledges a Hell of a lot better.

“The Pledge” we are so up in arms about was written by an idiot for idiotic purposes, complete with an idiotic Nazi salute, and only… well, Proof likes it and that about says it all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bellamy

I’m not the one who shares an ideology with Dino, Mr. McGovern.

No. I just take for granted that the liberal Ninth Circus court is wrong and that is usually the case! This time is the exception that proves the rule!
BTW I take Dred Scott as an example of the Supreme Court not being infallible.
Maybe you could Google it sometime?

I don’t have a problem with the pledge of allegiance. If Brent and Dino want to hold their crotches like Obama during the flag salute, that’s their problem, not mine!

Poor Brain Dead Brent! I give him a chance to redeem his pathetic performance and he only digs the hole deeper! You’d think that if I exhibited statist, fascist or Nazi like tendencies “at every turn” and “time and time again” (to quote one mindless, brainless twit), that he might have been able to come up with at least one citation that I hadn’t already quoted (to show his mindless criticisms), as evidence of the noise he keeps passing through his kazoo hole. I myself gave the Letterman link because I know what an utter fool it makes Brunt look like!

“Why are you always…calling people “poopy heads”? “

Other than quoting your fellow traveler Hannitized, I don’t believe I did. Again, if I am “always” doing this (is always yet another English word that you have trouble comprehending?), then, by all means, give us the citation where I did so. Bonus points if you can show where I “always” do it! (Yeah. I crack myself up!)
I’m not sure why you have such a hard on for me, Low rent Brent, but all you’ve done is regurgitate mindless insults (I don’t suppose you have any other kind!) and make baseless accusations (which makes you perfect Paul-fodder, I guess?).

“You still don’t have a clue about the Pledge, do you”

I don’t have a problem with the pledge, the flag or the republic for which it stands, do you? Speaking of “not understanding”, this thread was about a court decision about the words “under God”. It was not a defense of the pledge, per se. Though, in my opinion, the pledge does not need defending.
If you however, wish to write a reader blog, where you take two remaining brain cells and rub them together (You don’t have two? Maybe you could borrow one from your Uncle Dad?), and write a criticism of the pledge, be my guest! If you want to cut and paste a couple of wiki citations (as you’ve done here) and pretend you’ve made an argument, that’s fine too! We suffer fools and small children at this blog. Just not lightly nor too long.

Make your case if you have one, Low rent Brent. But if you want to insult me and make accusations about who I am, when you are clearly quite clueless, be prepared to back up what passes through your pie hole. Or maybe Wankertized will make room at the Kiddie Pool for you?

Proof, you haven’t proven you have read anything. You are an intellectual lightweight, but take heart, because it is relative. I’m sure on another blog, such as Proof Positive, you are a superstar.

Why are you always talking about butts and calling people “poopy heads”? Really? Are you two years old?.

And just about every post you make is crazy (and ridiculously predictable and therefore boring), so just pick one at random and that one is terrible. But when you have posted something decent, I have told you I think it’s good. There just haven’t been that many.

(The Times article was from 2007.)

Oh look, Proof. You can read some of this (2007 edition) book for free!

http://oldtimeislands.org/pledge/pdgech0.htm

“Dr. Baer has a Doctorate in Economic Education from the Catholic University of America, a Masters Degree in Business Administration from Columbia University, and an A.B. from Harvard. Dr. Baer taught Economics at Salem College and Anne Arundel Community College. Dr. Baer was an officer in the U.S. Navy and an Intelligence Analyst for the National Security Agency.”

But I’m sure you know more about it than him anyway. He only researched it for 20 years.

Dino: As a mind reader, you make a good door stop.
Don’t you ever get tired of being wrong?

The fact that you are still here says you are a lying coward.

To Kevin: “he wasted his time with this nonsense” -Twice!

To Dino: I laugh at your irrelevance!

To Lame in Court: Your delusion is duly noted.

The 9th Circuit also has a long-running streak as the most overturned, which went unbroken this year. The Supreme Court reviewed 22 cases from the 9th Circuit last term, and it reversed or vacated 19 times. By comparison, the Supreme Court reviewed only five cases, vacating or reversing four, from the next-busiest court of appeals, the 5th Circuit based in New Orleans.

In other words, although the 9th Circuit decided only one-third more appeals on the merits than the 5th Circuit, it was reversed nearly five times more often. -LA Times

“Seems much more appropriate to swear to an oath to defend the constitution”
I put a lot of weight on “and to the Republic for which it stands”
If the flag did not represent the Republic, it would just be mere cloth.

“Remember the time you accused me of “suppressing liberty” in a post where I called David Letterman’s blackmailer a stupid crook? Oh, yeah! You’re not a whack job, Brent!”

You think that someone who has information about David Letterman’s extramarital affairs should go to jail for asking David Letterman to pay him NOT to exercise his free speech rights???

Yeah, Proof, that is pretty un-American. And that’s the problem with your posts… you are too incompetent to understand the arguments.

It is both dumbass. It hears far more cases than any other circuit. It is both upheld and overturned more than any other circuit. But if you want to do real analysis, look up the percentages.

I’ve always thought it a bit strange that we pledge allegiance to a ‘flag’… its always seemed a bit Utopian, almost Communist-Esq and contradictory to a free society to me where dissent is such an important . I’ve often wondered what someone like Thomas Jefferson or James Madison would have thought about such a pledge. Why do conservatives get so up in arms about something with such socialist roots?

the most overturned court in the land

Of course you mean the most upheld court in the land.

Wikipedia – lol

That’s some deep thinking.

heh

Brent: You really like to compare me to Nazis and Fascists, don’t you. Bring your brain to your next comment or at least some facts to back up your big mouth.

Yes, Proof, I edit everything I write on the blog for 100% proper grammar. I’ve noticed you do the same… Good Grief. I’ve never stooped so low as to complain about someone’s grammar or a spelling mistake on a blog comment.

Proof, you are an idiot.

You know nothing about the Pledge or damn near anything else. You are a lightweight, which is why you have such trouble with people like Dino.

I think Brent is just following the Cuckoo for Cocoapuffs Paulbots over the cliff. Have a nice fall!

Agreed

I always thought it was silly for atheists to opposed ‘one nation under God’ and ‘In God we trust.’

Surprised that the Ninth Circus agrees, though.

The funny thing is that your ideological ancestors supported the Dred Scott decision.

Newdow will probably bring it to

the strict SCOTUS constructionists.

Your pledge means NOTHING. I refuse to do it.

This isn’t even a country anymore. You might as well use that flag as toilet paper. The united states is DEAD.

God bless America.