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Saturday, September 08, 2007

New York Times Slips Up And Implies That Fetus Was Actually Alive

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If a fetus is just a lump of cells, just another part of a woman’s body, how can it die?  Or potentially have lived despite the mother having died?

And if a fetus isn’t a lump of cells or a part of a woman’s body, then how can we justify killing them as though they were?

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Fetii die; no one denies that.  The question isn’t about whether they’re alive but whether they’re legal persons with rights, etal.  Pretty basic stuff, and I’m a bit surprised you aren’t fluent in the issues surrounding the question.

At any rate, WTF?  A pregnant woman knife fight?  One can’t help but wonder which one Vick had money on.

jpe on September 8, 2007 at 07:53 pm
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fyi, a better demagogue, or perhaps one that wasn’t looking over his shoulder at the enticing wii would’ve pointed to a later sentence, in which the story mentions that doctors tried to save the “baby.” There’s your a-ha! moment.  Cripes, I gotta do everything around here myself.......

jpe on September 8, 2007 at 07:55 pm

I gotta do everything around here myself.......

Your moment in the sun. Better relish it while you can.  It won’t last long.


Being liberal is never having to admit you’re wrong

docdave on September 8, 2007 at 08:07 pm
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Killing a fetus without the consent of the mother, except in the case of a medical procedure required to save the life of the mother when consent can not be gotten, is treated as homicide types in the New York Penal code.

125.00 Homicide defined.
Homicide means conduct which causes the death of a person or an unborn
child with which a female has been pregnant for more than twenty-four
weeks under circumstances constituting murder, manslaughter in the first
degree, manslaughter in the second degree, criminally negligent
homicide, abortion in the first degree or self-abortion in the first
degree.

Relevant statute link

(And yes, I am admitted in NY, though I rarely admit it in person.)

The Comedian on September 8, 2007 at 10:36 pm

Killing a fetus…

Don’t you mean “a human fetus”?


"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

robert108 on September 8, 2007 at 11:12 pm
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This topic always sickens me to the bone, I don’t give a fuck about what you people say, I admire anyone that kills an abortion doctor and if i was on that jury i would hang it.

Anybody that kills an abortion doctor deserves a metal. And I’m willing to bet that God himself will reward them. God bless all the abortion doctor killers.

You abortion doctor killers are my HERO. and fuck who ever thinks otherwise.

WETBACK on September 9, 2007 at 12:46 am

Homicide means conduct which causes the death of a person or an unborn child

Interesting how the penal code says nothing about a fetus while implicitly identifying it as the unborn child that it is.  More evidence that what abortionist are doing is killing humans.


Being liberal is never having to admit you’re wrong

docdave on September 9, 2007 at 03:35 am
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If a fetus is just a lump of cells, just another part of a woman’s body, how can it die?

Tsk, tsk. You clearly don’t appreciate the nuance, the fine, subtle shades of meaning here.

rightwingprof on September 9, 2007 at 08:25 am

If the human fetus isn’t alive until just after it is delivered, who is responsible for this miraculous event of life being somehow instilled into an inanimate object?


"If the good men are silent only the wicked are heard.” - Edmund Burke

robert108 on September 9, 2007 at 08:34 am

If the human fetus isn’t alive until just after it is delivered, who is responsible for this miraculous event of life being somehow instilled into an inanimate object?

Exactly, robert.  Classifying the unborn as something other than human baby defies all logical reasoning.


Being liberal is never having to admit you’re wrong

docdave on September 9, 2007 at 08:43 am
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