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Tuesday, March 18, 2008

New York Times In Spitzer Spin Mode: Monkeys Aren’t Monogamous, So Why Should Humans Be?

Because we’re all just animals, right?

You can accuse the disgraced ex-governor Eliot Spitzer of many things in his decision to flout the law by soliciting the services of a pricey prostitute: hypocrisy, egomania, sophomoric impulsiveness and self-indulgence, delusional ineptitude and boneheadedness. But one trait decidedly not on display in Mr. Spitzer’s splashy act of whole-life catabolism was originality.

It’s all been done before, every snickering bit of it, and not just by powerful “risk-taking” alpha men who may or may not be enriched for the hormone testosterone. It’s been done by many other creatures, tens of thousands of other species, by male and female representatives of every taxonomic twig on the great tree of life. Sexual promiscuity is rampant throughout nature, and true faithfulness a fond fantasy. Oh, there are plenty of animals in which males and females team up to raise young, as we do, that form “pair bonds” of impressive endurance and apparent mutual affection, spending hours reaffirming their partnership by snuggling together like prairie voles or singing hooty, doo-wop love songs like gibbons, or dancing goofily like blue-footed boobies.

Yet as biologists have discovered through the application of DNA paternity tests to the offspring of these bonded pairs, social monogamy is very rarely accompanied by sexual, or genetic, monogamy. Assay the kids in a given brood, whether of birds, voles, lesser apes, foxes or any other pair-bonding species, and anywhere from 10 to 70 percent will prove to have been sired by somebody other than the resident male.

All due respect to the New York Times, but as a human I like to think that I’ve evolved beyond the mating habits of birds and monkeys.

Comments

Monkeys also fling their own poop at the people who watch them through the bars. Is it all right for politicians to do the same?

Oh, wait....they do. Figuratively speaking, of course.


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Pilgrim on March 18, 2008 at 07:11 am

All due respect to the New York Times…

Bullshit!!!  No such respect is warranted.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on March 18, 2008 at 07:36 am

I agree with bat one.

This is the problem with trying to use evolution to excuse inhuman behavior.

Liberal Stupidity.


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And they go down fighting.

Gene on March 18, 2008 at 07:40 am

If Charles Manson was a rabid Democrat, the NY Times would defend mass murder.

Kevin on March 18, 2008 at 08:30 am
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Will the NYT stop at nothing to defend misbehaving “Liberals”? It is getting to the point that you will not be able to use the NYT to line a bird cage!

Ralph on March 18, 2008 at 09:54 am

....and a lot of those animals will kill each other over the females, too.  Perhaps the Times is endorsing mass murder to get girls?

Bike Bubba on March 18, 2008 at 01:22 pm
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All due respect to the New York Times, but as a human I like to think that I’ve evolved beyond the mating habits of birds and monkeys.

Funnily enough, the above is the exact same argument that I use against those who use the natural defense for polygamy.

Thats just an FYI there for anyone who is interested. As to the original topic, I couldn’t agree more with all the above comments and the original post itself. We are more than animals and we should be expected to behave accordingly. No excuses.

Peggy on March 18, 2008 at 10:05 pm
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People who try to justify misdeeds by pointing to nature and human’s natural impulses ignore we stigmatize such behavior precisely because it the default default/genetic/natural behavior.

If our genetically programmed behaviors were suffecient to guideus through the world we wouldn’t need culture in the first place. We use culture as a kind of software to override the behaviors encoded in our genetic “hardware.” Our genes program us to desire things like sex, food, status etc in the here and now with little regard to the future consequences. Culture attempts to manage the individuals behavior such that it accomplishes long term goals. We follow cultures sex restrictions (which all cultures have). We eat blandly and sparingly to conserve resources and protect our long term health.

It is culture that seperates humans from animals. Animals do not have the brains needed to run the software necessary to supress their genetic programing. Spitzer et all who ignore their cultural software are not being more honest and returning to their natural roots.

They are turning their backs on what it means to be human.

Shannon Love on March 19, 2008 at 10:21 am
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Monkeys aren’t monogomous, so why should humans be?

Girl monkeys don’t shoot cheating boy monkeys.  Duh. 

They are turning their backs on what it means to be human.

Here, here and amen.

FlyOnTheWall on March 25, 2008 at 12:00 pm

Monkeys aren’t monogomous, so why should humans be?

Because I am not a monkey nor am I descended from a monkey! Others here may be thus descended, I am not!

“An exceptional quote, revealing that specific, pinpointed similarities between two separate species can mean very little. Baboons, according to research, share 90% of their DNA with human beings. Does this, therefore, make them 90% human? The answer is absolutely not. Dr. Barney Maddox, a leading genetic genome researcher, also noted concerning man/monkey genetic differences: “Now the genetic difference between human and his nearest relative, the chimpanzee, is at least 1.6%. That doesn’t sound like much, but calculated out, that is a gap of at least 48,000,000 nucleotides, and a change of only 3 nucleotides is fatal to an animal; there is no possibility of such a change from a monkey to a human being.”

Therefore, my behavior cannot be based on the behavior of lower orders of animals, I am a human being and I have the ability to choose to engage or deny my base impulses.


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Neiman on March 25, 2008 at 12:15 pm

Why expect lawyers to behave better than monkeys?

Kevin on March 25, 2008 at 08:42 pm
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