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Wednesday, September 12, 2007


New York Times Gave MoveOn A 61% Discount On “General Betrayus” Ad

I’m not surprised.

Jake Tapper at ABC News reported that MoveOn.org paid $65,000 for its full page anti-war advocacy sliming of General David Petraeus. This figure raised the suspicions of attentive blogger Confederate Yankee whose intuition appears to be correct. (h/t Michelle Malkin) While looking up the current New York Times rate book he discovered that MoveOn.org received a $102,000 discount on the standard political advocacy rate that is advertised at $167,157.

For a newspaper that pretends to be objective purveyors of news this discount seems a bit steep for the deep pocketed liberal advocacy group. In fact the amount MoveOn paid is less than any rate listed in the New York Times schedule.

Doing special favors for far-left political organizations?  Just another victory for our oh-so-objective and disinterested mainstream media.

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So that makes them doners to Move On?


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The Whistler on September 12, 2007 at 11:42 am

This accusation would hold water if Jake Tapper came up with a list of advertisers that paid substantially more than MoveOn for the same ad size, type, and positioning.

I purchased ad spots for 20 years and never paid over 50% of the published rate. It’s a typical closing ploy by ad sales people to tell prospects that they talked to their publisher and were able to get the advertiser over a 50% discount because they are so excited to have the advertiser’s business. Upon the next insertion, they always try to have a rate increase.

ews48 on September 12, 2007 at 11:50 am

The discount is probably more related to the type of organization.  Nonprofit organizations such as moveon.org usually receive a discounted rate.  The NYT should probably explain how the rate was chosen, since it probably was based on a standard rate chart, and not given as a special favor to moveon.org…

Carrick on September 12, 2007 at 12:32 pm

I read somewhere else that this was a discount off of their political advocacy section of their rate card.

So it would be a discount, not a special rate.

So if they actually would have printed a Swift Boat Veterans ad what would they have charged?


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5% of Americans pay 60% of the income tax.
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The Whistler on September 12, 2007 at 12:39 pm

I’m not an expert on election law, but it seems to me that unless NYT can document that they have offered substantially the same discount to conservative 527 groups (such as the Swift Boat Vets), then the discount would have to be reported to the FEC as a contribution to the MoveOn.org PAC, which actually sponsored the defamatory Petraeus ad.

Everyone knows that the NYT stopped being America’s newspaper long, long ago, and is now little more than a mouthpiece for the Democrat party.  Still, it would be amusing to have that fact documented by the Federal Election Commission and the Times Company’s 2007 corporate tax return.


“Capitalism is optimism monetized.”

Bat One on September 12, 2007 at 01:00 pm

It’s a typical closing ploy by ad sales people to tell prospects that they talked to their publisher and were able to get the advertiser over a 50% discount because they are so excited to have the advertiser’s business. Upon the next insertion, they always try to have a rate increase.

I used to know a prostitute who did exactly the same thing.  Come to think of it, there probably isn’t much difference between her and the NYT.  Except that she always managed to turn a handsome profit from being a whore.


“Capitalism is optimism monetized.”

Bat One on September 12, 2007 at 01:15 pm

Bat One:

I used to know a prostitute who did exactly the same thing.

That reminds me of a true story. A friend and I were in Chicago for a meeting, late a night many years ago, we were walking back from a bar (meal only, wink, wink)) to the hotel, we saw a prostitute propositioning a young guy in a business suit. Apparently, he wasn’t interested in making any purchases at that time, at which point the prostitute grabbed his crotch and held on to his hoohoo for three more blocks hoping to close the sale. I don’t know the outcome, but I admire a salesperson that is not willing to take no for an answer and has more direct sales technigues in mind to close the sale.


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Neiman on September 12, 2007 at 04:00 pm

Neiman,

Thank you!  I enjoyed your little anecdote.  Of course, the New York Times has been famously unable to hold onto either its advertisers of its subscribers for quite a few years now, but your story does suggest another analogy… the federal government.  Think about it.


“Capitalism is optimism monetized.”

Bat One on September 12, 2007 at 07:26 pm

Neiman,

Thank you!  I enjoyed your little anecdote.  Of course, the New York Times has been famously unable to hold onto either its advertisers of its subscribers for quite a few years now, but your story does suggest another analogy… the federal government.  Think about it.

That is funny.


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goon on September 12, 2007 at 11:14 pm

At least the prostitute is honest about what she is - can’t say that about the Times.


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Hoss on September 13, 2007 at 06:11 am
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