New York Times/CBS Poll Says 72% Of Americans Support Health Care Reform

Proof • June 22, 2009

This would seem to indicate a lot of support for government-run health care:

Americans overwhelmingly support substantial changes to the health care system and are strongly behind [72%] one of the most contentious proposals Congress is considering, a government-run insurance plan to compete with private insurers, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.

The problem is that 66% of the people polled were Obama voters.

According to the actual poll data, of the 73% of respondents who said they voted in 2008 only 34% voted for McCain and 66% for Obama. The actual vote was 48% McCain.

And there are more problems than just that:

In this poll, the sample identified as 27% liberal, 37% moderate, and 29% conservative. In contrast, last week’s Gallup Poll showed Americans identify as 21% liberal, 35% moderate, and 40% conservative.
But wait… there’s more. The same NYT/CBS poll previously published more information about this very sample, showing that 16% was temporarily out of work, and another 10% was not in the market for work. Democratic pollster Stanley Greenberg tells us that those who have been unemployed within the past year (or have an immediate family member in that category) are the most supportive of a government takeover of the US healthcare system. So a sample with much higher unemployment than the national average tells us something about the skew here also.

This is the sort of poll you see a lot in the media. It’s not so much conducted and reported on to measure public opinion but rather to shape public opinion. The liberals in the media want Americans to feel like there is broad support for government-run health care, and that it’s passage is inevitable because it is the will of the people.
But I don’t think government-run health care really is what Americans want. And those Americans who do want it should have to spend a couple of years on a waiting list for surgery to fix incontinence in Canada and then be polled about their support.

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http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

According to the actual poll data, of the 73% of respondents who said they voted in 2008 only 34% voted for McCain and 66% for Obama. The actual vote was 48% McCain.

That poll is way flawed then.
http://www.dartemis.net/blog/ sayanything-42

And we all saw how well throwing money at the problem worked for education in CA…
Lioncourt

I heard the other day that 3/4th’s of Americans are satisfied with their Health care as is. Hmmm…

Fuck the other quarter of the population. They are probably just whining because they are sick.
2Hotel9

Jeff, your friend died because of government interference in the healthcare system. And your solution is to turn ALL healthcare over to the government, so more people can be denied needed healthcare. Not to intelligent, Jeff.
TomTom

Anything the NYT is involved in is propaganda for Obama.
http://www.willisms.com/ Zsa Zsa

I heard the other day that 3/4th’s of Americans are satisfied with their Health care as is. Hmmm…
Hoss

Fuck the other quarter of the population. They are probably just whining because they are sick.

More likely too lazy to get a job, or for whatever reason feel that someone else should pay for their healthcare so that they don’t have to alter their lifestyle needs…government parasites enabled by the dems, or are sick because they’ve made one piss-poor decision after another (still smoking, still pounding down 15,000 calories per day,etc).

If you leftists are so concerned for your sick countrymens health, why don’t you see if you can get legislation passed where all registered democrats can pay higher marginal tax rates in order to pay for it. Put your fucking money where your mouth is for once…not somebody elses.
Mark

It’s not about health care refrom, it’s about more government control!
http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

Fuck the other quarter of the population. They are probably just whining because they are sick.

That’s the folks that think everyone else owes them anything they want.

THEY should get off of their butts and help themselves.
jimmypop

According to the actual poll data, of the 73% of respondents who said they voted in 2008 only 34% voted for McCain and 66% for Obama. The actual vote was 48% McCain.

so why doesnt zog or anyone do a poll of the opposite %?
sayanything-5371

Fuck the other quarter of the population. They are probably just whining because they are sick.

Translation: Liberals are never satisfied with anything.

Case in point, the “Great Society” and its “War on Poverty”. After 45 plus years of welfare and several generations of people living in government housing on welfare we still have massive poverty. Yet the liberals still want to throw more money at this problem.
http://forums.kikizo.com/ Eddie_the_Hated

I knew that sounded fishy to me. I’m politically active though, and I didn’t even bother to look much into it. I can only imagine now newsmedia’s gonna pick up on this number.
http://www.willisms.com/ Zsa Zsa

Lion, There are already health care programs set up to provide for those who can not afford their own health care. Why do we need to nationalize health care?
http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

The founding fathers would be sorely disappointed in us if they could see the people dying and families losing everything because they got sick, because of the greed and corruption in the insurance, pharmaceutical and medical industries.

I’m pretty sure the founding fathers would be appalled that you think they’d be in favor of stealing our money to go to people unwilling to earn what they need.

And I don’t call it greed and corruption because they don’t give you what you think you should get without paying for.
robert108

LC reveals the ethical poverty of the leftie mindset: destroy three quarters of the population financially to make the other quarter of the population dependent on govt.
jeff

I lost friends brother to cancer Dec 21 2007. He was a US postal worker for 20 years with 2 kids and a wife but a rural carrier whose 34hrs wasn’t considered full time = no benefits = no cancer screen = dead.

His mother had a stroke last year at 90 but she is completely back. Former USMC = VA + Medicare = alive.

The founding fathers would be sorely disappointed in us if they could see the people dying and families losing everything because they got sick, because of the greed and corruption in the insurance, pharmaceutical and medical industries.

I have seen it first hand for the last 15 years as a contractor.

Drugs companies: with 34 hr work weeks, 5 cafeterias, 2 weeks vacation, 2500 manicured acres, on site gyms, jogging trails, discount entertainment tickets, free parking, free insurance all paid for by the sick and dying.
The largest for profit corporations in the world profiting off the sick and dying.

PS–the top force against the Clinton health plan was the AUTO insurance industry! Why? With Universal health care they would have to give up the billions of free money each auto insurance policy includes to cover injuries that would be covered by health care.

Hundreds of billions of dollars that they keep FREE every time a safe driver pays for his MANDATORY Auto Insurance!
There’s a ton of money to finance a health care system out there–it’s just been being misappropriated so to speak by some very familiar names.
tothestars2

liberals still want to throw more money at this problem

Yeah, the money you and I work very hard for.
http://sayanythingblog.com robport

I agree, Jeff, that health insurance and care being so unaffordable is a problem. But do you really think the problem lays with drug/insurance/medical companies pricing their products and services so high that most people can’t afford them? Or maybe with a system of health care that allows prices to get so out of whack?

In a truly free market system these companies wouldn’t price themselves out of the market. What we need isn’t more third-party payers (i.e. the government). What we need is empowerment for idnividuals to be able to buy and manage their own care.

Government isn’t the solution, and I doubt very much that any of our founding fathers would be in favor of the government running health care.

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