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Saturday, April 12, 2008

New York Now Charging Sales Tax On Internet Purchases

They claim that the new tax “levels the playing field” for in-state retailers who complained that the lack of a tax on internet purchases put them at an unfair disadvantage.

With the passage of the hotly debated state budget last night, New York legislators approved a bill that will require many online retailers to begin collecting sales taxes on purchases shipped to the state, even if they have no operations or employees working there.

New York Governor David Paterson is widely expected to sign the measure.

The so-called “Amazon tax” closes a loophole for Internet retailers who derive sales through affiliate programs in which Web site owners place a link to the merchant on their site and earn a commission on sales made from referrals. In lobbying for the bill, the industry group representing New York retailers had argued that the exemption from the sales-tax collection requirement gave out-of-state online retailers an unfair competitive advantage.

First, they level the playing field by raising taxes?  Why not just give the in-state retailers a tax break?  Why is the solution always to raise taxes?

Second, how much of an advantage can internet retailers really have when all of their products must be shipped?  Someone purchasing a book or DVD from Amazon instead of a local store is going to usually pay shipping fees greater than the sales tax.  Or, if they choose some sort of free economy shipping, they still pay a price in terms of a delay between the purchase and when they get their product.  So what is this tax really correcting?

The real advantage internet retailers have is that it allows people to shop from their homes.  But why would New York lawmakers want to make it harder for New York citizens to enjoy that convenience?

This plan makes no sense.

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First, they level the playing field by raising taxes?

Because we have a dumbass Gov who will sign any stupid shit.

This plan makes no sense.

Tell me about it. Here’s me searching for jobs in other states…


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Hairy Polemic on April 12, 2008 at 01:27 pm

I hate it when I get charced.


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realitybasedbob on April 12, 2008 at 01:31 pm
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Great point Rob.  Who needs taxes when we go about fighting wars that cost trillions of dollars?

We should be able to pay for that out of charity.  Right?

Hannitized on April 12, 2008 at 01:36 pm

Great point Rob.  Who needs taxes when we go about fighting wars that cost trillions of dollars?

My state sales taxes aren’t paying for any wars. Dumbass.


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Hairy Polemic on April 12, 2008 at 01:44 pm
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If you’re so concerned about Iraq war spending, Hannitized, why aren’t you concerned about out-of-control entitlement spending?

Iraq is a drop in the bucket compared to that.


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Rob on April 12, 2008 at 01:55 pm
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Does this mean I now skip buying anything on the net from a NY seller. I can live with that even though I have bought several (of the 600 + purchases) items out of NY.

The nuts can divide up the money that would be saved if we pulled out of Iraq. It might last them until they get killed in a terrorists attack.  I want the money spent on the criminal Mexicans that slipped across the border to rip us off.

Scrapiron on April 12, 2008 at 06:43 pm

The liberals will tax anything that breathes or moves.  Hold onto your wallets everyone.



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dougee on April 13, 2008 at 12:48 am

The democrats really know how to put a socialist jack-boot up the ass of economic growth.

TAX IT and drive it out of business!!

Eneils Bailey on April 13, 2008 at 07:23 am

“The power to tax involves the power to destroy.”

-John Marshall


Those who think the party or the country, will be “taught a lesson” by handing the levers of power over to the liberals will learn a lesson, but it will be at the expense of our country and her liberties. And there are no guarantees that the party or the country will come out stronger, more conservative or better positioned to win elections against the incumbent liberals.

Proof on April 13, 2008 at 07:29 am

even if they have no operations or employees working there.

Sounds like taxation without representation. Wasn’t there a war fought over that?

Kevin on April 13, 2008 at 10:20 am
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As a former NY resident, I have to chuckle at this.

Idiocy like this is one of many reasons I happily left NY, never to return again (live in Fla. now, no income tax, better weather, nicer people, list goes on).

But, putting aside the stupidity of this, it’s not even constitutional, as this article shows:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE1D71430F934A15756C0A964958260

I would expect a successful challenge to the law in short order…

Rudy on April 13, 2008 at 11:32 am
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