New Town Murder Is An Argument Against Tribal Sovereignty Over Criminal Matters

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One of the issues in the Senate race between Democrat Heidi Heitkamp and Republican Rick Berg was the issue of tribal sovereignty over crimes of domestic and sexual violence on Indian reservations. The tribes want jurisdiction over non-tribal members who commit those sort of crimes on reservations, and Heitkamp agreed with them hitting Berg for his opposition to it suggesting that he’s soft on domestic violence (it was a part of Heitkamp’s overall “war on women” strategy).

But there are a lot of good reasons to oppose giving the tribes jurisdiction over non-tribal members. For one thing, tribal courts and juries are made up exclusively of tribal members, meaning that a non-tribal member would by definition not be getting tried by a jury of his/her peers, a right guaranteed in the Constitution.

For another, tribal law enforcement is notoriously lax and corrupt. Case in point, the 21-year-old Kalcie Eagle who is now a “person of interest” in the murder of a grandmother and her three grand children on the Forth Berthold Reservation in New Town (Eagle killed himself in Parshall after the murders) had led state law enforcement officials on a 100 mile high speed chase which ended on the reservation, at which point he was turned over to tribal law enforcement:

Law enforcement officials in the area were familiar with Kalcie Eagle, [Mountrail County Sheriff Ken] nHalvorson said. In March, Eagle was arrested after leading authorities on a 100-mile, high-speed chase in western North Dakota in a stolen pickup truck pulling a trailer, Halvorson said.

Since the arrest happened on the reservation, Eagle was turned over to tribal authorities. It isn’t known where the case stands, as tribal authorities did not immediately return phone calls Tuesday.

“He made it to the reservation,” Halvorson said. “That was his goal.”

Sheriff Halvorson’s words are a grim reminder of the havens of crime and corruption many reservations are. That a tribal member would lead law enforcement on a 100 mile chase with the objective of making it to the reservation speaks volumes about the state of law and order there.

Or, perhaps more accurately, the lack of law and order. And I write that as someone who was banished from an Indian reservation in the state, without due process, for writing something the tribe found objectionable. I am intimately familiar with problems some tribes have with fidelity to the law.

If Kalcie Eagle is proven to be the murderer in this tragic case, perhaps some ought to ask why Mr. Eagle wasn’t already in jail.

It might be time for some pointed questions about why crime rates are so much higher on North Dakota’s reservations as opposed to the rest of the state. It has nothing to do with race, I believe, and everything to do with crippling poverty perpetuated by and endless stream of government programs and entitlements.

Update: Per a criminal records search, it does appear as though Mr. Eagle was tried in ND District Court and sentenced to a year in jail with 10 months suspended. Still, Sheriff Halvorson’s words speak volumes about the status of the reservations as safe havens for criminals in many instances.

Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • Tim Heise

    If you are non native and a tribe is able to try non natives then do not go on a reservation. Its all about LIBERTY!
    Also most cops on reservations are BIA Police which is an argument about federal government corruption not tribal.
    Also the only way Congress would pass some sort of law which gives tribes criminal jurisdiction over non natives (which is not likely in any form) is if said law had increase due process such as legal council for defendants among others.
    Futhermore, it would never be system wide. Tribes would have apply for it and be approved.

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      If you are non native and a tribe is able to try non natives then do not go on a reservation. Its all about LIBERTY!

      Going on a reservation does not relieve me of my constitutional rights.

      • Tim Heise

        In some settings it does!

        • Matthew Hawkins

          No it doesn’t. The question is how does having a tribal court remove any constitutional rights? Why are tribal courts not able to provide these rights? I think they can.

          • Tim Heise

            Maybe we should define the argument a little.
            “Why are tribal courts not able to provide these rights?”
            Provide to whom? natives or non natives

          • Matthew Hawkins

            Either.

            I think that tribal courts can provide these rights.

            I disagree with Rob, I don’t think having a Native American jury when you commit a crime on a reservation denies constitutional rights.

          • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

            The Supreme Court court ruled that having am exclusively male jury denies you those rights.

          • Matthew Hawkins

            No it didn’t. It ruled that the pool of potential jurors must include women and that they could not automatically be exempted upon their request.

            If you got a jury of all men that would not be an impartial jury.

            But I think the status of reservations as being semi-sovereign should allow them to administer their own legal system for any crimes in their jurisdiction, not just those of tribal members.

          • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

            It’s a good thing that what you think isn’t what is actually fact in the real world.

            The tribes are not autonomous. The are squarely under the jurisdiction of the federal government and are not exempted from the constitution.

            No it didn’t. It ruled that the pool of potential jurors must include women and that they could not automatically be exempted upon their request.

            If you got a jury of all men that would not be an impartial jury.

            But that’s not what we’re talking about, is it? You’re right that a randomly selected jury resulting in all white men wouldn’t be specifically illegal, violating the constitution’s protections against partial juries. But a jury drawn from a pool made of exclusive white men would be illegal, and the Supreme Court as ruled that way.

            The same logic applies for a jury drawn from exclusively tribal members.

          • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

            For one thing, tribal judges in often have almost nothing in the way of legal education. For another, jury makeup would not satisfy the standard for impartiality.

          • Tim Heise

            Yes there are many that do not. but there are many that do. for example stand rock and turtle mountain Court of Appeals. I know two of the judges personally BJ Jones, Dr Rochette, Michelle Parks. They are brillant in my not so humble view. Chief Justice of Standing Rock William Zuger (a white dude) is also a great jurist.

      • Tim Heise

        “Nonmembers of an Indian tribe who lawfully enter tribal lands remain subject to the tribe’s power to exclude them, this power necessarily including the lesser power to place conditions on entry, on continued presence, or on reservation conduct” Merrion v. Jicarilla Apache Tribe, 455 U.S. 130,

        If a Tribe can kick you off their reservation for ANY reason (which really only includes Trust land not fee land – different conversation) then there goes your first amendment!

        Your constitutional rights as a non native on a reservation are not exactly the same as when you are off a reservation.

        • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

          You’re misunderstanding the ruling. The court is recognizing that the tribes own their land and can kick off who they like. Much like Walmart can bring trespassing charges against known shoplifters.

          That is not a blank check for the tribes to ignore the constitution, and I’m not sure why you would want it to be.

          • Tim Heise

            I know it is not a blank check. but your constitutional rights as a non native are not the same once you enter a reservation. I would even argue that they are diluted a bit.
            Walmart is private property reservations are public land owned by the federal government held in trust for the tribe (among many other types).

  • Tim Heise

    I would argue that the Navajo Nation has a BETTER judicial system then the US of A.
    Most people afraid of “those indians” have never even been on a reservation.

    • $8194357

      Born and raised in Mountrail County.
      Knew the Grandmother well..
      The Grandfather, Father,
      a couple of uncles of the deceased young man in question
      as well….

      The marxist social justice Democratic pension for seperating
      equal under the rule of Constitutional
      law citizens by cause and group is totally opposite Article 28, IMO…
      Wether by, race, religion, sex, or gender bender, disabilities, ect ect…
      The Constitution says no special laws for different people..

      There is no “easy” answer to any of this..
      The divide and destroy strategy of the anti Constitutional left
      is far to advanced down its “intended” road.

      • Tim Heise

        Federally recoginzed Indian Tribes predate the Constitution therefore the Constitution does not apply to Natives . . . for the most part.

        • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

          Actually tribes are required to adhere to the constitution. And all US citizens enjoy its protections in the US, which the reservations are certainly a part of.

          • Tim Heise

            then why did you not enjot due process when you where kicked out of turtle mountain?

          • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

            Because the tribe broke the law. Even under tribal code I was to be allowed a hearing, a right to council, etc.

            I got none of that. Not that I really wanted it.

          • Tim Heise

            Did they brake a federal law?

          • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

            I believe I could have argued that my right to due process was trampled, yes.

          • Tim Heise

            I really do not think you would have won nor do I think they had to give a reason either. I’ll have to look up some cases on this.

          • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

            Since Worcester v. Georgia, 1116 it has been recognized that Indian tribes are unique aggregations possessing attributes of sovereignty over both their members and their territory. 1117 They are, of course, no longer possessed of the full attributes of sovereignty, 1118 having relinquished some part of it by their incorporation within the territory of the United States and their acceptance of its protection. By specific treaty provision, they yielded up other sovereign powers, and Congress has removed still others. ”The sovereignty that the Indian tribes retain is of a unique and limited character. It exists only at the sufferance of Congress and is subject to complete defeasance.” 1119

            http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/article01/35.html

            Also, the Indian Civil Rights Act of 1968.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Civil_Rights_Act_of_1968

        • $8194357

          I believe your wrong on that, IMO.

          • Tim Heise

            “Since neither the Constitution nor the Bill of Rights applied to Native American tribal governments, denying freedom of press and fair jury trials, and performing illegal searches and seizures were common acts within the American Indian communities.[2] This need for an imposition on many of the Native Americans’ provisions was the basis for the creation of the Indian Civil Rights Act of 1968″
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Civil_Rights_Act_of_1968
            If you don’t believe me a random person on the internet then belive wiki a online posting from random people on the internet. sarc.

          • $8194357

            So since dual citizenship applies to natives?
            Could an Indian be POTUS?
            Oh ya…Barry already set that president..
            Never mind…

          • Tim Heise

            Haha.

            It is not tehnically dual citizenship like one would think of lets say Mexico and the United States. Federal Indian Law is, as Clarence Thomas has been quoted in saying, “psychofrenic.”

            Their are blurry exceptions to the Nth degree. We have not even gotten into PL 280 states where the State has criminal jurisdiction of tribes such as Calirfornia and Minnesota and like 6 other states maybe 7. Congress in ’50s gave this authority.

          • $8194357

            In the 50’s huh..
            Like about the same time frame old Joe McCarthy was pointing out how the communists infiltraded America thru FDR’s federal power grabs?
            Think there would be any corelation?

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      It’s not about race. It’s about the practical reality of what the reservations are. They are high crime, high-poverty areas. We ought to have a discussion about that without assuming those bringing the topic up are motivated by race.

      • $8194357

        In modern marxist social justice sensitivity trained America?
        Won’t happen…Did ya see the “meeting” on bias in the law, real or percieved, led by the Lt. Govenor?

      • Tim Heise

        ok thats fair. ma bad.

      • Tim Heise

        It is about race with some of your readership. I have learned that Indians are drunk, violent lunitics.

        • Too Funny

          Absolutely. “Economic injustices” play a small role but RACE IS IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM. RACE IS real and is a proven factor in the propensity for violence, crime and intelligence. Tons of empirical evidence shows us this, like it or not.

          • Tim Heise

            Are you saying that Natives and blacks have a higher propensity for being violent criminals and being dumb then whites?

  • $8194357

    Dang Port…
    That “Truth” you write is
    just plain old hateful and will sting
    for some folks, huh..

    Funny how that works isn’t it..

  • Matthew

    The Constitution does not guarantee you a right to a trial before a jury of your peers. It guarantees you a right to an impartial jury.
    Please explain to me why a jury of native americans cannot be impartial when a crime has been committed on their reservation.

    • Tim Heise

      And Natives when on trial in Federal Court are not before a jury of their peers!

      • nimrod

        Yes they are, because they are basically dual citizens where non tribal members are not.

        • Tim Heise

          Good Point.

      • Matthew Hawkins

        Jury of your peers is a widely misunderstood term. It is from the Magna Carta. Which was written by nobles. Peers at that time meant members of the Peerage, other nobles. All it means is that Nobles will be judged by other Nobles and not the King. Peasants had not protection from this at all. All the Constitution guarantees is a impartial jury. Practically that has meant that in any jurisdiction the selection process is impartial. Nobody has a specific guarantee of a particular makeup of a jury.

        • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

          You, as usual, have no clue what you’re talking about.

          A jury for a non-tribal defendant made up exclusively of tribal members does not meet the standard of impartiality.

          Which is why if the violence against women act passed and extended to the tribes jurisdiction in those cases it would be struck down by the courts.

          Peers, in modern legal parlance, means jurors drawn from the public at large, not a specific group such as tribal members.

          • Tim Heise

            I agree except for the “struck down by the courts” part. I might not. The Sup Ct has given extreme defference to the plenary power of congress with anything to do with Indian Law even in cases where congress took away power in of non natives example civil power in US v Montana.

          • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

            If we’re talking about a non-tribal the courts are not going to give jurisdiction to the tribes.

            You’re wrong.

          • Tim Heise

            I might be. I doubt it. If tomorrow congress said “No More Reservations” the Sup Ct most likely would follow it based on the the PP of congress. In re criminal jurisdiction of non natives for a very limited jurisdiction of Domectic Violence it could go either way.
            We’ll have to what and see.

          • Matthew Hawkins

            There is nothing in the constitution that guarantees a jury of peers.

            You can only claim that a jury on a reservation can’t be impartial if you believe than Native Americans are incapable of being impartial. I don’t believe that and it is racist.

          • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

            Well that’s a very stupid thing to say.

            The courts certainly believe that a jury of peers is required which is why a conviction by a jury drawn from a pool of all white males would certainly be overturned.

            And I’m sure, of we were talking about that sort of jury makeup, you’d change your tune.

        • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

          You may also want to review Duren vs Missouri in which the Supreme Court ruled that a law narrowing jurors to men only violated the 6th and 14th amendments as such juries could not be impartial as they were not drawn from a poll representing a cross section of the public.

          They were not, to put it another way, juries of peers.

    • awfulorv

      Because an ethnic group, unfortunately, but mos assuredly, tends to protect it’s own. Do not the letters O.J. affirm that proposition?

      • Tim Heise

        Are a jury of all white men and women for a trial of a Native going to be impartial? The native having to travel hours outside of the reservation since the nearest federal courthouse is far away is outside of his community and most non natives do not really know what they are talking about in re natives.

  • Clarence A. Herz

    There is no law on the reservation. Underage druge use, sexual abuse, well hell you name the social ill it exists in spades on the reservation. Kids driving at 8 years old, drunk driving is rampant, dogs running wild, break ins, rape, murder. Nothing that happens there is a supprise to me.

    • Tim Heise

      I would not go to that extreme.

      • Clarence A. Herz

        Maybe that is because you don’t live there Tim. I do.

        • Thresherman

          If drug and alcohol abuse could be eliminated, reservations might have a chance. Otherwise it is just the lunatics running the asylum.

          • Tim Heise

            Are the lunatics Indians or the white people running the BIA that “run” the asylums (reservations)?

          • $8194357

            Native culture is focused on clan and extended family.
            Very socialist oriented..The “individual” is brought
            into line by communinal pressures…At least..they used to..
            A strong belief in “no individual” can tell another individual
            how to live…

        • Tim Heise

          You know where I live and have lived? Either way, the statement that there is “no law” on reservations is extreme to me.

          • Clarence A. Herz

            First: the BIA is ran by Indians not whites. Second: I don’t know where you live, but I know where you don’t. You don’t live in New Town because if you did the statement wouldn’t be extreme at all.

          • Tim Heise

            The BIA is run by the DOI which is run by whites. Are you Native?

          • Clarence A. Herz

            Having a criminal code, judicial system, police, etc. doesn’t mean the law is enforced. You can pass laws on Mars, but if you don’t go there and enforce them it is lawless. Like new town. The DOI does not have an office in New Town, but the BIA does, been there many times and have yet to see a white man working in there, but there are plenty of natives working. Why would you ask if I was native? does my being native or not make New Town lawless or not?

          • Tim Heise

            So . . . Three Affliated has a criminal code, a judical system, police, BIA police, FBI/DOJ response and there is “no law?” I never said it was good, just that there is.

  • Tim Heise

    Mr Port we agree on most thinks including this topic, it is not that easy. Would you be against Native’s having criminal jurisdiction over non natives if their had the same standards as US courts including due process.

  • nimrod

    The reservation created this guy(and many more like him), just like project housing created the inner city gang problem. When youth find they have no need to support themselves ever, and be proud of their accomplishments, they will turn into violent thugs. No amount of law enforcement or new laws will change this. The reservation system needs to be phased out as it only creates despair and hopelessness.

    • Tim Heise

      If the reservation created this guy then reservations must be at fault? Who created the Reservations? Would the creators of the reservations be at fault for something?

      • $8194357

        Socialism and crony capitalist greed created the system.
        shared misery and submission to the tyrany of state….
        While alowing the “illusion of independence and liberty”..
        America is so blind they don’t see we as well are just like the
        reservations now the Federal government is submitting us to
        globalism….A one world tyrany of elitist olagarchs who do the
        devils bidding….IMO..

    • kkkk

      He never lived in the projects or the shitty part of town

  • Harold

    To many serious crimes occur on the res and nothing is ever really done about them, unless they are serious enough to warrant placement in a federal pen. Locally no one is ever locked up for to long even when a serious crime has been committed but doesn’t raise to the level of a placement in a federal pen.

    • $8194357

      I will be Kumar to your Harold..
      I grew up on the res as well…We all lived by a different set of rowdy
      rules that would have got us arrested off the reservation..White and native.
      Way back in the 70’s we knew what “lack of law” was,
      and took advantage of it.
      If no one got hurt to bad, anything went over..
      The majority of whites and natives got along quite well back then
      and still do IMO…
      So many folks having families of both sides…
      Culture clash was and still is real yet today tho.
      Being small and rural, we all knew each other and
      gave each other proper respect and tolerance.
      Very, very good folks will be found every where..
      It don’t take much big city corruption for a few to go
      bad. Real bad…Not the families who love them fault, IMO.
      I did get a very good idea about being not liked for my skin color
      from folks who came in from out of town for pow wows and stuff, tho.
      We locals stuck up for each other most of the time against that kind of crap from outsiders…IMO the bitterness and racism against whites got worse with big city gang kind of mentalities and drug/alcohol feeding the youth.
      When in my day a fight ended with a fat lip and a beer afterwards, it turned to gang stomping, clubs, knives and guns as time went along..
      Inner city style hate and machismo came to the prairies with the rap gansta culture.
      Just a few thoughts from an old timer who been there and done that…

  • Tim Heise

    Mr Port:

    Wouldn’t the fact that the federal government has jurisdiction of any major crime (murder, rape etc) occuring in Indian Country regardless of who (non native or native) commited the crime lead us to think that DOJ can’t handle the crime in Indian Country?

    I think one could just as well stated, “New Town Murder Is An Argument Against [DOJ Jurisdiction] Over Criminal Matters [in Indian Country].”
    What say you Sir?

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      That the DoJ does a poor job doesn’t exonerate the tribe.

      • Tim Heise

        True, but it leads me to think that DOJ is more responsible for high crime in IC then tribal judicial systems that only handle low crimes of tribal members.

  • VocalYokel

    I think ‘Big Oil’ and ‘Dubya’ are the real culprits..

    • $8194357

      And that dang Haliburton and Cheney, huh..
      Global warming must of had a place at the table as well..

  • Just Saying


    Police stopped Eagle on a county road and he sped off when they
    approached the vehicle, eluding police at speeds of 100 mph through Ward
    and Mountrail counties. He eventually struck a boulder, disabling the
    vehicle and was apprehended in a foot chase while on the reservation.

    Northwest
    District Judge Richard Hagar sentenced him to 12 months in jail with 10
    months suspended and three years of supervised probation. Eagle was
    ordered to pay nearly $45,000 in restitution but has paid nothing,
    records show.

    His only other criminal conviction in North Dakota was in 2010 for misdemeanor theft.” Quote from Bismarck Tribune.

    Sounds like the State Freed him not the Tribal Court. Just saying

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      Interesting. Different from the impression the Sheriff gave in his quote, but I think the argument stands. The tribes do aan awful job of law enforcement.

      • Tim Heise

        I agree with that. I just hold DOJ and the DOI responsible since they took/hold jurisdiction.

        • Tim Heise

          more responsible

  • cylde

    Off reservation law enforcement is culpable here as well because there is no good reason why the truck could not have been stooped before he got to the reservation, They do not have nail strips, they could not shoot his tires out, they could not set up road blocks for 100 miles?

    • $8194357

      And put the perpetrator at risk?
      A protected class citizen?
      ACLU lawyers would be all over
      “excessive use of force” or
      some PC line of b/s..

  • Tim Heise

    A really good dissertation is “A Libertarian Farmework in Native Rights” by T. Fodder, SJD. It is not about criminal jurisdiction but how Libertarianism would help Natives.
    http://turtletalk.wordpress.com/2012/07/01/new-scholarship-a-libertarian-framework-for-indian-rights/

  • $8194357

    The Word Discovers Our Condition

    Who’s Truth you going to accept?

    God ‘is not a man’ that He can lie..
    deceptions belong to the devil and the sons/daughters of perdition..

    And then?
    The useful idiots are many.
    Cannon fodder for destruction…

    Psalm 64:2-4

    New King James Version (NKJV)

    2 Hide me from the secret plots of the wicked,
    From the rebellion of the workers of iniquity,

    3 Who sharpen their tongue like a sword,
    And bend their bows to shoot their arrows—bitter words,

    4 That they may shoot in secret at the blameless;
    Suddenly they shoot at him and do not fear.

    Hebrews 4:11-13

    New King James Version (NKJV)

    11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience.

    12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

    13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight,
    but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom
    we must give account.

    end quote

    ‘a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart’.
    ‘Nothing hidden from His sight’….
    The evil plotting of darkness deceptions…
    or its fruit bore out in the flesh….
    NOTHING

  • $8194357

    Testify…..
    Jesus said………..

    Psalm 69:4

    New King James Version (NKJV)

    4 Those who hate me without a cause
    Are more than the hairs of my head;
    They are mighty who would destroy me,
    Being my enemies wrongfully;
    Though I have stolen nothing,
    I still must restore it.

    John 15:17-25

    New King James Version (NKJV)

    17 These things I command you, that you love one another.

    The World’s Hatred

    18 “If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you.

    19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.

    20 Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also.

    21 But all these things they will do to you for My name’s sake, because they do not know Him who sent Me.

    22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin.

    23 He who hates Me hates My Father also.

    24 If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would have no sin; but now they have seen and also hated both Me and My Father.

    25 But this happened that the word might be fulfilled which is written in their law, ‘They hated Me without a cause.’[a]

    The Coming Rejection

    26 “But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me.

    27 And you also will bear witness, because you have been with Me from the beginning.

  • Concerned reader

    This blog is blown out of the water by its own update. You talk about how the tragedy could have possibly been avoided if he had went thru trial by the US court system instead of the tribal courts but in fact he faced the ND district court that you seem to hold to a higher standard and was out of jail. Lack of research and unbiased thoughts seem to be the only thing holding you back from people taking you serious and being considered a real journalist.

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      Everyone makes mistakes. I updated with the accurate information, but I think the Sheriff’s words about the attempt to flee back to the reservation substantiates the points made in the post.

      • WTF

        That a Sheriff’s unprofessional and uncalled for words should mean something? He did not know that. He made an assumption and for some reason told reporters about this. He just let us know his opinion about tribal government and non-tribal; which is what we needed to know.

    • Tim Heise

      What is a real journalist?

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