NDSU Professor Using Taxpayer Resources To Advocate Against Initiated Measures?

Apparently one Dr. Paul E. Nelson, chairman of the Department of Communication at North Dakota State University, has been sending out emails to his colleagues (using his university email address) asking them advocate against North Dakota ballot measures 1 and 2 (the oil trust fund and the 50% income tax cut).
Friends of ATR has a copy of the alleged email in question:

From: Paul Nelson
Date: Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:08 AM
Subject: Vote No on Measures 1 & 2
Colleagues:
North Dakota State University will suffer immediate financial damage if measures 1 and 2 pass on the November ballot.
Many of our students are voting for the first time. Without demanding that they vote a certain way, you can use the attached information to show how the defeat of Measures 1 and 2 will affect their lives. We can hope that they vote self-interest.
If you want or need more information on the measures, Kelly has at her desk an explanation of the ballot measures.
Paul E. Nelson, Ph.D.
Professor & Head
Communication
NDSU Dept #2310

There is indeed a Paul E. Nelson who is the chairman of the Department of Communication at NDSU. I’ve placed a call to Mr. Nelson’s office requesting confirmation of this email.
I hope this email isn’t true. Not only is this probably an illegal use of taxpayer resources, but also you would hope that in an institute of higher learning the professors would let the students think for themselves.
Plus, there’s more than enough money in the state government right now to pass measures 1 and 2 without cutting any spending.
Update: I spoke with Dr. Nelson.
I asked him if he had sent the email, and he straight out confirmed it: “Yes I did.”
I asked him if he used his University email address to send out the email and he responded by saying that “everyone” on campus was doing it “because we don’t want measure 1 and 2 to pass.”
I asked him if he knew the email system was funded by the taxpayers and he said “well put me in jail, it’s full of drug dealers.”
Update: A reader sends along the attachment to the email. You can download it here, or just read it below:

VOTE NO ON MEASURES 1 & 2
TUITION INCREASES FOR A TOTAL OF 8-12%
SIGNIFICANT REDUCTIONS IN NEEDS AND MERIT-BASED STUDENT GRANT PROGRAMS
75% OF ND STUDENTS GRADUATE WITH DEBT AVERAGING OVER $20,000.00.
ND STUDENTS ARE SECOND HIGH IN THE NATION IN NUMBER WITH INDEBTEDNESS.
TELL ND PARENTS AND RELATIVES ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES OF THESE MEASURES. EVEN OUR POPULAR GOVERNOR OBJECTS.

Clearly this information was intended to be handed out to students.
So what we have here is a department chair at NDSU using taxpayer resources to instruct his subordinates to distribute literature opposing two ballot measures to students.
That scenario implies a whole number of ethical and legal questions.

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  • http://Array Puzzlefeet

    Hey, Kevin, I don’t get any gov. benefits. Nice try.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    In the long run there might be a backlash. In the short run, no so much.

    Interesting that he’s concerned about tuition. I suppose so much so that they’d be willing to take pay cuts or in lieu of that teach more than 6 hours a week and catch up on their naps the 20 weeks of the year they don’t work.

  • GrampsWithCramps

    Rob, et al. – Dr. Nelson was not the first high-ranking official from NDSU to do this: last Saturday, athletic director Gene Taylor was interviewed on the radio broadcast of the NDSU-Northern Iowa football game. The interview occurred during halftime. In it, he railed against Measures 1 & 2, basically saying the same things as in this episode.

    Since NDSU broadcasts are now done “in-house” (i.e. they buy the airtime on WDAY in Fargo & various other stations and receive the ad revenues themselves) I believe this is also use of a public resource to express a political opinion. If it isn’t, shouldn’t the stations at least give equivalent time to the proponents of the measures during the broadcast this weekend or next?

  • Puzzlefeet

    What law is being violated here?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Feel your head up your ass. Feel your dreams of a “permanent majority” crushed.

    If you’re going to be insulting, it should at least have some truth to it.

    dannyboy, you need a timeout or something. Hang it up for tonight and come back tomorrow.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Do you really want to know or are you playing innocent? I thought being a ND employee’s union thug you’d know.

    It’s in Section 39-01-04 of the ND Century Code.

    The University system also has a policy which is found under 1901.2.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Sounds like a good way to get fired if you ask me.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    You mean policy setting bodies (Gov NDBOHE) have different powers than employees.

    Weird.

  • Puzzlefeet

    Whistler, are you seriously quoting a section on political activities that is found in the Motor vehicle section of the North Dakota Century Code? Would you like to try again?

  • http://www.valleydeals.com/cgi-bin/board2/YaBB.pl Kevin

    Hey, Kevin, I don’t get any gov. benefits. Nice try.

    What’s the point to having a government, then?
    Why am I paying an obscene amount of taxes for all these “government services” I’m told they go to pay for.

  • dannyboy

    By the way, when I talk to the university’s administration tomorrow do you really think they’re going to be happy about this?

    They won’t be. I can guarantee you.

    Having to listen to your porcine ass, I’m sure they’ll be downright sick. How do you talk on the phone while you have Karl Rove’s cock in your mouth?

  • HG

    (Taken from the email)

    We can hope that they vote self-interest.

    And there you have it. The mantra of the left. Vote your self-interest. Forget country first and put yourself first at the expense of your fellow citizen’s earnings.

  • 2Hotel9

    Thanks, Toot. I was running a google on that.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I hated it when Eddie got hired to do the Sioux games.

    It’s not that he used to be a big Bison mouth, it’s that he was so bad at it.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I’m a NDSU student

    Well nobody’s perfect.

  • patriot

    I’m a NDSU student

    Well nobody’s perfect.

    Hey, hey, now, none of that. We all know the smart people are Bison. UND people are……..well, what are you now? Besides you have to give us credit, those of us in the Football stands well before young dougee were the ones giving it back to the “Voice of the Bison” Eddie Schultz.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Lestat – That right there is the Republican philosophy.

    You’re completely backwards.

    put yourself first at the expense of your fellow citizen’s earnings.

    That describes the “redistribute the wealth” (Obama) “progressive” (the leftist spin) tax policy.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Gramps I read the first paragraph and thought, so what’s the problem. He’s got a right to his opinion.

    Then I scrolled down and saw the fact that this is an NDSU production. Clearly this is wrong.

    That’s shocking that they are so blatant in their use of state financed resources to advance their agenda of greed!

    Of course they don’t care. They’re out to screw the taxpayer so this is just one step.

  • dannyboy

    So when it gets too hot you just ban people? Guess it’s not SayAnything after all, huh?

  • Lestat

    put yourself first at the expense of your fellow citizen’s earnings.

    That right there is the Republican philosophy.

  • RebTex

    Liberal thinkers don’t use the same basis for ethics as a commoner would.
    It’s like…here in Texas, we don’t make it a habit to eat our horses but in other places, they relish the meat.
    Among the horse eaters, it’s just another meal.
    THey’re ignorant to the idea that it’s just ain’t right.

  • http://www.valleydeals.com/cgi-bin/board2/YaBB.pl Kevin

    He’s a typical lazy, greedy, tenured, pointy headed elitist!

  • http://www.valleydeals.com/cgi-bin/board2/YaBB.pl Kevin

    Puzzlefeet is worried about her fat government benefits not growing fast enough.

  • Puzzlefeet

    What I’m saying Whistler, is that there is a difference when talking about candidates and talking about initiated measures and referenda.

    And then’s there’s big bad Rob, going to call the administration and tattletale on a professor. Have at it, Rob.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Kevin, Puzzlefeet is a union leech, not a government leech.

    What this means is that she sucks money out of the worker in a more direct fashion.

    Just ask her. She is quit proud of her leeching. She believes it to be admirable or some other such shit.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I’m sure that the University administration will take this very seriously.

    After all after the last legislature raised higher education spending around 20% the Board of Higher Education gave UND and NDSU Presidents massive raises amounting to over six figures (at least as far as UND’s salary of which I am more familar).

    So you can see that the NDSU administration has every reason to take this seriously and not hush it all up.

  • Puzzlefeet

    Very proud of my union work, lik!

  • Puzzlefeet

    Poor poor, Kevin, just can’t get anything right tonight! Maybe you need to loosen that bow tie!

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    dannyboy – How do you talk on the phone while you have Karl Rove’s cock in your mouth?

    This is called “Hope” and “Change”, folks.

    Feel the love. Feel the tolerance.

  • 2Hotel9

    90% of college students have to mental capacity of a dried up dog turd, and they get worse as their “education” progresses.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Kevin, we don’t know his hat size.

  • 2Hotel9

    Oh, and exactly who got banned? I missed that in this thread.

  • HG

    That right there is the Republican philosophy.

    Yeah right. ‘Cause republicans are always voting themselves taxpayer monies. Just because some “republicans” are not conservative doesn’t mean it is a republican philosophy. However, the democrats have all but universally practiced and promoted self-interest.

  • dannyboy

    Feel the love. Feel the tolerance.

    Feel your head up your ass. Feel your dreams of a “permanent majority” crushed.

  • gilbyguy

    2hotel9 why the dried up dog turd hate?

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I think we also have to look at the ND State University system policy as well. I’m pretty sure this violates the rule.

  • http://dougeefargo.blogspot.com/ dougee

    I’m a NDSU student and this really ticks me off. I hate it when professors try to tell you how to vote although my engineering professors have never done that.

    In my thermodynamics II class this past spring we started talking about global warming and our professor said that it wasn’t his job to try to convince us either way. He said that it was his job to teach us engineering principles and the course work and not to indoctrinate us with any political view. I gained a ton of respect for him for that.

  • Puzzlefeet

    Let’s see Rob, the state board of higher education holds a meeting using state resources and comes out against the measures. They send info to their staff and faculty using state resources.

    What you and Whistler don’t understand (and both of you would if you actually read the century code) is that initiated measures and referenda are not considered politcal. It is considered different than advocating for a person running for office.

    The governor uses state resources to advocated against the measures. It is legal. That you don’t like it is irrelevant.

    typical rightie, thinks the law should be ignored because your side doesn’t like it.

  • Tom

    You should ask ATR to send you the attachment.

  • 2Hotel9

    Gilby, we are house breaking a new puppy, and it has reacquainted us with Democrat mentality.

  • Puzzlefeet

    Once again, Rob, you might actually read the section you are quoting. Look at the definition of “political purpose” then come back and tell me it is applicable to an initiated measure. I’ll be waiting…..

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    And it’s not just the using of the email system. It’s a department chair telling his subordinates how to feel about a political issue (and it is a political issue, you dunce).

    How do you think this email became public? Maybe because some underling is a little pissed about his/her boss is trying to dictate what people’s politics should be?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/sparkiearbuckle sayanything-81

    using your leverage as a professor and department chair to indoctrinate students?

    that usually leads to backlash. as any dogmatically-based indoctrination does.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Well before we talk about laws, how about ethics? How about not using your leverage as a professor and department chair to indoctrinate students?

    That’s a double wammy here. A department chair instructing his subordinates to take a specific political action. And then those subordinates instructing the students.

    Not good.

    As for the law, well there is:

    N.D.C.C. § 16.1-10-02

    No person may use any property belonging to or leased by, or any service which is provided to or carried on by, either directly or by contract, the state or any agency, department, bureau, board, commission, or political subdivision thereof, for any political purpose.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    This situation, where we have government employees using taxpayer’s resources to lobby in their own interests (more funding, bigger government, higher taxes), has got to stop.

    Government employees getting political on their own time? Sure. But don’t make me pay taxes so that some professor can sit in his ivory tower and use the resources I paid for to oppose measures I support.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    I’m working on it, but I did get confirmation on the email from Nelson himself (per the update).

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    that usually leads to backlash. as any dogmatically-based indoctrination does.

    You give far too much credit to college students for being independent thinkers.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    So, you’re ok with this because campaigning against an initiated measure on the taxpayer’s dime isn’t, for some unknown reason, in the definition of “political purpose?”

    Typical liberal. Can’t just admit when her own side is wrong.

    For the record, I wouldn’t support this baloney if some professor was using the taxpayer’s resources to advocate for Measure 2. And I certainly don’t support educators indoctrinating students.

    But you, clearly, do.

    *shrugs*

    You’re incapable of admitting when you’re wrong.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    The governor uses state resources to advocated against the measures. It is legal. That you don’t like it is irrelevant.

    A an elected official, taking an official position on policy, is different from a government employee using taxpayer time and resources to advocate against policies he personally opposes.

    If you weren’t such a blinkered partisan, you’d realize that professors using their tax-funded positions of influence to advocate politics is wrong.

    So Dr. Nelson didn’t violate the letter of the law. He violated the spirit of it, and then there are the ethical questions.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    By the way, when I talk to the university’s administration tomorrow do you really think they’re going to be happy about this?

    They won’t be. I can guarantee you.

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