Nancy Pelosi Won’t Answer Question About Osama Bin Laden Being Mirandized

A throw-away question, or an important point about the stupidity of trying enemy combatants in civilian courts?


This isn’t a silly question, and our political leaders shouldn’t be blowing it off.
Remember that, in civilian courts, a failure to have Mirandized the accused before interrogating him/her is the sort of transgression that can get cases thrown out of court. As can interrogating the accused after they’ve requested the presence of a lawyer. And those are just two basic rights afforded the accused in our court system amidst a mountain of legal precedent that restrains law enforcement officers and prosecutors and requires them to meet certain standards in making their cases.
I doubt that the US military, which is not a law enforcement agency and obviously thought they were capturing the enemy as opposed to arresting criminals, followed many of these precedents. And that’s….going to be problematic.
Because now that we’ve pushed these cases into the civilian courts, what do we do with the fact that none of the usual procedures for arresting, detaining and interrogating criminals was applied to them? Do we just ignore that in these cases?
Allowing our courts to just set aside certain rights when they’re inconvenient is a dangerous precedent to set.
Throughout the history of our country we have not tried enemy combatants in civilian courts because enemy combatants are not civilians. And arresting, detaining and trying them on the field of battle while affording them all the rights our civilian courts require is problematic for a myriad of really, really good reasons.
This was a stupid move by the Obama administration, and the repercussions from it could have serious consequences.

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  • http://Array sayanything-9974

    Botox Nancy secretly yearns for a life under the Burqa. A culture where the women are kept uneducated and sold as part of the marraige arraingment.

    She does not want her hero to be caught and executed. Heavens no, She wants him to be on stage and come before the world in a trial – and blather on about the Great Satan and our allies.

    She hates America more than she can express herself – She wants Obama bin Laden to speak for her. That way she won’t ruin her re-election chances.

  • sayanything-287

    This morning it was reported that at least one defendant will plead not guilty, though all had pled guilty while at GITMO, his lawyer said so they could put America on trial. Which may have been Holder’s intent from the beginning, to put a country he hates on trial.

  • I don’t like today’s GOP

    Isn’t she an empty suit? Isn’t she a troll? Isn’t she on her knees? Shouldn’t she stfu?

    Shouldn’t you get some new lines, or at least try to have some content in your posts?

  • sayanything-15427

    What?

    Are you saying we put her in a position of power? Nope
    Are you saying we blame her for not prosecuting them at Gitmo? Nope
    Are you saying that making her “sheriff” means we are holding her responsible for getting them a fair trial? Nope

    I just cannot understand what your post was supposed to mean… Bush took too long prosecuting them in tribunals they way they should have been and having them sumarily executed if the verdict was guilty. But giving them a trial in civilian courts is more idiotic than anything Bush ever said or did, unless the point is to put the Bush Admin on trial and not KSM/Enemy Combatants.

    Which is the point…

  • AKA WOOF

    After 8 years conservatives have pinned
    the star to Nancy and made her Sheriff.

  • sayanything-9974

    It is not a crime to stupid – I just don’t think the rest of us should pay the price.

  • http://fu.com/ robert108

    It goes to how she thinks about terrorists who want to destroy this country. Duh.

  • AKA WOOF

    Why ask the Speaker of the House this legal question?
    Not her venue.

  • lock’em’up

    Hey, I agree, at least for the guilty ones. If they were tried, and not guilty, I don’t think they should have been executed.

  • sayanything-106

    Pelosi is a moron and has no credibility and listen to the crap that comes out of her mouth, she is disgusting. I am sick and tired of this buffoon.

  • sayanything-15427

    I did have a concern letting them sit in Gitmo. They should have been tried and executed already.

  • sayanything-7939

    She didn’t answer the question because she believes America is now a banana republic. It matters not whether mirandizing Osama is the right policy or not. To Pelosi it only matters that the policy of the prior leadership is vilified.

  • sayanything-342

    Stupid move either way. If he is committed the Islamo freaks will revolt because they will perceive the trial as rigged. If he wins the Americans will revolt because they will perceive the trial lawyers as incompetent.

    Chalk it up as just another STUPID move by the boy president. How many have there been this week? I lost count.

  • sayanything-15427

    Just another bullet point in the plan to put America on trial not the enemy combatants.

  • lock’em’up

    Rob, I think, I hope, you answered your own concerns. “the US military, which is not a law enforcement agency”. Have they actually been arrested yet?

    Now, I do wonder about your other “concern”, “Allowing our courts to just set aside certain rights when they’re inconvenient is a dangerous precedent to set.” Did you have that concern when the Supreme court did that by allowing them to stay in gitmo, unrepresented and worse?

  • sayanything-3444

    IMO – Obama and company are hoping that the courts will throw out the case on a legal technicality to further make the previous admin look bad, and to give an excuse to go on a witch-hunt against Bush, Cheney and the CIA. They are not stupid enough to think that a trial in civilian courts will work, but they are this deranged enough to not care if they can tear down the country even more.

  • sayanything-453

    You know all this and haven’t taken the wench to court yet?
    You are lagging young man……..

  • sayanything-453

    His name is Goon. He has an image to live up to.
    For a goon he is doing well.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Have they actually been arrested yet?

    They’ve been detained, so yes.

    Did you have that concern when the Supreme court did that by allowing them to stay in gitmo, unrepresented and worse?

    They were, and still are to my mind, enemy combatants and their treatment was not historically unprecedented.

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