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Sunday, November 20, 2005

Murtha’s Resolution Did Call For Immediate Withdrawal Of Troops From Iraq

Ever since the House vote on Friday that overwhelmingly rejected a resolution calling for the immediate withdrawal of troops from Iraq Democrats and their sycophants have been trying to spin the issue by saying that Murtha was not really calling for the immediate withdrawal of troops from Iraq.

They're wrong. To me it is clear that he was.

Here's the full text of Murtha's resolution:

Whereas Congress and the American People have not been shown clear, measurable progress toward establishment of stable and improving security in Iraq or of a stable and improving economy in Iraq, both of which are essential to "promote the emergence of a democratic government";

Whereas additional stabilization in Iraq by U, S. military forces cannot be achieved without the deployment of hundreds of thousands of additional U S. troops, which in turn cannot be achieved without a military draft;

Whereas more than $277 billion has been appropriated by the United States Congress to prosecute U.S. military action in Iraq and Afghanistan;

Whereas, as of the drafting of this resolution, 2,079 U.S. troops have been killed in Operation Iraqi Freedom;

Whereas U.S. forces have become the target of the insurgency,

Whereas, according to recent polls, over 80% of the Iraqi people want U.S. forces out of Iraq;

Whereas polls also indicate that 45% of the Iraqi people feel that the attacks on U.S. forces are justified;

Whereas, due to the foregoing, Congress finds it evident that continuing U.S. military action in Iraq is not in the best interests of the United States of America, the people of Iraq, or the Persian Gulf Region, which were cited in Public Law 107-243 as justification for undertaking such action;

Therefore be it

1) Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in

2) Congress assembled,

3) That:

4) Section 1. The deployment of United States forces in Iraq, by direction of Congress, is

5) hereby terminated and the forces involved are to be redeployed at the earliest practicable

6) date.


7) Section 2. A quick-reaction U.S. force and an over-the-horizon presence of U.S Marines

8 ) shall be deployed in the region.

9) Section 3 The United States of America shall pursue security and stability in Iraq

10) through diplomacy.


Note the bolded sections.

The resolution calls for the removal of troops from Iraq at the earliest time practicable. That, to me, means that the troops should depart as soon as they can be made ready for shipping out. How is that not a call for immediate departure?

Also, this resolution would seem to hinder our abilities to wage war in Iraq. It calls for the pursuit of security in Iraq "through diplomacy." Diplomacy with who? Zarqawi? How do we get in touch with him? And even if we could, do you think he's up for negotiations?

That monster has made it clear that he will not stand for a free and democratic Iraq. How can we negotiate with that? Do we hand him Falujah and Mosul and tell him that he can establish his Islamic theocracy there as long as he leaves the rest of Iraq democratic?

As you can see, the idea that we can defeat the terrorists in Iraq through diplomacy is nonsense. As is Murtha's resolution. But that's not how the Dems are spinning it. Suddenly Murtha's resolution was not about immediate withdrawal. They're revising history again, just like they've revised it on pre-war intelligence.

There's not a lot of room for equivocation on this issue. Either you are for staying in Iraq until the country is stable and capable of defending itself (a/k/a: "victory") or you are for immediate withdrawal. There's nothing in between, though that is the ground Democrats are trying to occupy.

Comments

Avatar for WOOF

5 Republicans voted for it.

Questioning Iraq policy is on the table now.
Before the 2006 elections we will be hearing
the Administrations withdrawal plans.
Nobody is going to run on “stay the course”.

WOOF on November 20, 2005 at 02:11 pm
Avatar for robert108

Woof: Right. It was designed to expose the Dem girlie-men for what they really are:  all mouth and no action.  It worked.

robert108 on November 20, 2005 at 02:11 pm
Avatar for WOOF

Immediate withdrawal is the Republican resolution, the one the House voted on.

RESOLUTION

Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that
the deployment of United States forces in Iraq be terminated immediately.

Resolved, That it is the sense of the House of Representatives that the deployment of United States forces
in Iraq be terminated immediately.

Murtha’s

forces involved are to be redeployed at the earliest practicable date

WOOF on November 20, 2005 at 02:11 pm
Avatar for 2Hotel9

woofie? When are we going to withdraw from Germany,Japan,Italy, and Korea? What is your timetable, Babe?

2Hotel9 on November 20, 2005 at 02:12 pm
Avatar for robert108

When Iraq relocates to the North Atlantic(Treaty Organization).  Geography, anyone?

robert108 on November 20, 2005 at 03:11 pm
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We are going to run on victory.

robert108 on November 20, 2005 at 03:11 pm
Avatar for WOOF

When Iraq joins NATO.

WOOF on November 20, 2005 at 03:11 pm
Avatar for 2Hotel9

Still waiting on that timetable, babe.

2Hotel9 on November 20, 2005 at 04:11 pm
Avatar for robert108

When are we withdrawing from freaking Bosnia?

robert108 on November 20, 2005 at 05:11 pm
Avatar for richard

Am I wrong here or did Murtha vote against his own resolution?

richard on November 21, 2005 at 03:11 am
Avatar for WOOF

The top U.S. commander in Iraq has submitted a plan to the Pentagon for withdrawing troops in Iraq, according to a senior defense official.

Gen. George Casey submitted the plan to Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. It includes numerous options and recommends that brigades—usually made up of about 2,000 soldiers each—begin pulling out of Iraq early next year.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/11/18/iraq.plan/index.html

WOOF on November 21, 2005 at 05:11 am
Avatar for Ryan G

Either you are for staying in Iraq until the country is stable and capable of defending itself (a/k/a: “victory”) or you are for immediate withdrawal.

Rational debate and compromise is for sissies.  There’s no room to equivocate on this issue - either you agree with me or you’re a terrorist.

How’s that whole “reaching across the partisan divide” thing going these days, Rob?

Ryan G on November 21, 2005 at 07:12 am
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woofie, Gen. Casey is one of the people who is supposed to make operational plans and decisions. You know. The people who know how.

2Hotel9 on November 21, 2005 at 10:11 am
Avatar for modern instances

Scott McClellan: Murtha is “endorsing the policies of Michael Moore and the extreme liberal wing of the Democratic Party.”

Dick Cheney: “I disagree with Jack and believe his proposal would not serve the best interest of this nation. But he’s a good man, a Marine, a patriot, and he’s taking a clear stand in an entirely legitimate discussion.”

Dick McClellan: Murtha is “a good man, a Marine, a patriot, and he’s taking a clear stand in an entirely legitimate discussion, endorsing the policies of Michael Moore and the extreme liberal wing of the Democratic Party.”

Gotta look for those flip-flops from last year . . .

modern instances on November 21, 2005 at 12:11 pm
Avatar for robert108

Well, Murtha is no flip-flopper.  He endorsed defeat in Somalia as well, and look how that turned out.

robert108 on November 21, 2005 at 01:12 pm
Avatar for likwidshoe

Ryan G said, Rational debate and compromise is for sissies. There’s no room to equivocate on this issue - either you agree with me or you’re a terrorist.

Why are you talking to us? Go try that “rational debate and compromise” with those who unequivocally want you dead.

How’s that whole “reaching across the partisan divide” thing going these days, Rob?

How’s that demonization of everybody who doesn’t want higher taxes going Ryan? You’re not on the high horse on this one so you can stop now.

likwidshoe on November 21, 2005 at 04:12 pm
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[...] This is a very simple concept to grasp, yet still we have Democrats (John Murtha, most recently) clamoring for withdrawal. As though ending the war, not winning the war, were the goal. Murtha’s resolution called for withdrawal from Iraq “at the earliest time practicable” with absolutely no mention of what objectives had to be achieved before the withdrawal could begin. In essence, his resolution would have had our troops coming home as soon as they could pack up and leave. Which would have left Iraq twisting in the wind. All the sacrifices we’ve made, all the hard work done by our soldiers, would have been for naught. [...]

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[...] Democrats have been telling Americans, almost since the beginning of this war, that Iraq is a “quagmire.” That we cannot win. That things are going terribly and we should just cut and run. Yet our troops, who are actually on the ground and dealing with the day-to-day realities of our occupation of Iraq, don’t feel that things are going terribly at all. They believe in their mission and feel that they’re making great progress. They are inflicting casualty ratios on the enemy that near 20 or 30 dead terrorists to every one dead American soldier. They are rebuilding schools and hospitals. They are watching as democracy they fought for takes root in a long-oppressed land. [...]

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[...] Pelosi is endorsing Murtha and his call for immediate withdrawal. Murtha is saying that we cannot win in Iraq. Pelosi is saying that what Murtha is saying is “great wisdom.” Pelosi also voted against immediate withdrawal from Iraq. [...]

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[...] The Dems cannot continue to say that they are against immediate withdrawal, or that they are for finding a plan for victory in Iraq, and still support Murtha. Murtha is saying that we cannot win. Murtha is saying that we should bring the troops home now. He is saying that our military is tired, worn out and that they’ve accomplished all they can in Iraq. [...]

Avatar for Say Anything - North Dakota’s Most Popular P

[...] Rep. John “Cut And Run” Murtha recently did a grave disservice to our military by telling America that he, a decorated war veteran, would not sign up to serve in today’s armed forces. [...]

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