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The unfortunate thing about Somalia is that we sent our soldiers there on a humanitarian mission, not a military one.  In that context, Clinton acted appropriately, but the overall mistake he made was to send in the military and not be prepared for a fight to victory.  I’m no Clinton apologist, but the mission, as originally planned, was a bad one.  Based on that, everything that followed was wrong.

If I recall correctly, the mission to Somalia was more than just “humanitarian” in nature.

It is also true that our troops there requested reinforcements, heavier armor and weapons, and more helicopters… all of which were denied them.  Clinton, whose wife is probably a more competent commander than he is, sent too few ill-equipped men on a faulty, ill-advised, poorly planned mission.  Then when things went bad, he hung them out to dry.

Almost sounds like Jimmy Carter’s botched Iranian rescue mission, doesn’t it?

Whatever is it about Democrats that they are so grotesquely incompetent at national defense and military matters?

Answer:  They loathe the military.
The precise mission was to oversee the distribution of aid in Somalia.  Clinton didn’t realize that would put our troops in direct opposition to the warlords, who regarded foreign aid as theirs to take and distribute.  In other words, they were sent in to do something that would get them into combat, without the requisite logistical support.  It was extreme stupidity on Clinton’s part, and our servicemen paid for it.

Murtha because of his Iconic military history carries weight others don’t.  That makes him doubly dangerous. 

HE is one reason we can’t let the Dems win in NOV.

Did you like Blackhawk Down?  Multiply that with the horrid retreat from Vietnam and extrapolate it times 150,000 military men and women and you have what the Democrat Liberals want for this country.  Some believe they are doing right.  But they would turn their back on the military and let everyone fend for themselves just to secure power for the left.  It would be a disaster.

This is an evil that must not happen.

I don’t know if I ever mentioned it before.  I don’t like Mr. Murtha much.  He was given much honor and is now abusing it.

“The precise mission was to oversee the distribution of aid in Somalia. Clinton didn’t realize that would put our troops in direct opposition to the warlords”

Robert: The troops sent over to aid in the distribution of food were sent by Bush 41. After Clinton became President, he changed the mission to one of nation building. At that point, ill conceived policy and inadequate logistical support (against the advise of his military commanders in the field)caused the Somalian debacle that occurred.

And, according to Osama bin Laden, encouraged him to escalate attacks against the “paper tiger” US that would cut and run after suffering a few casualties.

Gene,

That Murtha is held to be an “Iconic military” figure by the left, along with Kerry, is what’s so scary.  Kerry’s military fanatsy world is rather well known at this point.

Murtha trumpets his “37 year military career” but all but about 6 years of that was actually spent in the inactive reserves.  And his strategic judgment, as detailed here, is of a level of incompetence that would qualify him as Minister of Defense for the Duchy of Grand Fenwick.

What is truly fightening is the notion that so many people actually regard these two idiots as military experts, and would willingly follow their advice and their lead.

And you are certainly right about electing Democrats.  Truman managed not to win in Korea, Kennedy lost at the Bay of Pigs.  LBJ had Vietnam, while Carter not only screwed up the Iranian crisis, but tried to give away our nation’s strategic military advantage to the Soviet Union.  Clinton, of course, listened to Murtha, thus ineptly messing up in both Somalia and the Balkans… never mind what was not done about Islamist terrorism or his policy of “benign neglect” toward the UYS military over his 8 year presidency.

Indeed, Democrats are about as inept and lethargic about national security and military affairs as they are enthusiastic about taxing everything that moves.

BAt One: Nice reference to Grand Fenwick! The main difference there is that the Duchy actually won their war! But, since it was their intention to lose, the incompetancy analogy is apt!

Proof Prof,

Merci!

There’s definatly a parallel between Clinton’s Somalia and Dubai Bush’s Iraq:

We went into both for a novel cause but our troops were sent indadequatly prepared and with an iffy plan

We went to both as humaneterian and liberators with the porpose of freeing the populace in both countries from their brutal oppresors.

Our leader tried to justify their proven incompetance and while doing so convinced me that they take us for fools: (10-30-30, greeted as liberators and than we’re out, we go to war with the army we have There’s definatly a parallel between Clinton’s Somalia and Dubai Bush’s Iraq:

We went into both for a novel cause but our troops were sent indadequatly prepared and with an iffy plan

We went to both as humaneterian and liberators with the porpose of freeing the populace in both countries from their brutal oppresors.

Our leader tried to justify their proven incompetance and while doing so convinced me that they take us for fools: (10-30-30, greeted as liberators and than we’re out, we go to war with the army we have <—Donald Rumsfeld trying to justify not equiping our brave soldier like they deserved to be equipped)

We got bogged down in both. Because of the gross mismanagement of both administration of their respective conflict.

Thing didn’t go as rosy as both administration led us to believe.

Many of the people we set out to liberate and bring freedom to are joining our opponents, actually FIGHTING us and/or tacitly supporting of our adversery by believing that its OK to kill our brave soldiers.

Final note,

What is currently happeniing in Somalia is yet another testament that while this administrations has made unacceptable mistakes in the way it has handled, grossly mismanaged, Iraq ..decinding to cut and run now is a bad option. Cutting and running would be an awful choise, irrigardless of the fact THE MISSION SHOULD HAVE HAD BEEN COMPLETED A LONG TIME AGO.

...our mission IN IRAQ should have had been completed a long time ago

The Iraq war has clarified the current world situation and debunked decades of pro-UN, pro-Communist, pro-socialist Europe, anti-Semitic, anti-American propaganda promoted by global elites.

The geniuses who think they could have done more faster in Iraq aren’t paying attention.

If it fails and Iraq can’t stand, we will finally be able to drill for oil in America and the American people will finally read beyond the MSM and “experts” to discover the history of their nation, the world, reality.

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“No one wants American troops to keep dying in Iraq and Afghanistan. I know, because I’m one of those troops and I would prefer not to die here. On the other hand, and this is what you won’t hear from most mainstream media, if I do die over here, I’ll do so with few regrets. I wouldn’t be dying for a lie, as so many minstrels of misery and mischief keep spouting.

Americans are dying in Iraq so Americans don’t have to die at home, or so that they can die of self-inflicted things like lung cancer and heart attacks instead of having a building blow up and crush them while they are inside it. Don’t kid yourself that things are otherwise. Keeping the fight in the enemy’s home court is exactly the right thing to do.” - ”>http://willtoexist.com/?p=331

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‘‘Jefferson’s war against the Barbary pirates was taken up after more than one million Europeans had been made slaves by Muslim traders. John Adams was opposed to the war, by the way, saying prophetically that if we fought these militant Muslims we’d be fighting them forever. ‘’
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MGIyZjU5NWI0MTJlNDQyMjUxZmRkMDkxODEyMTEyODk

For a few hundred years - from the shores of Tripoli onward - mainly Judeo-Christian businessmen with guns have inherited, built upon, lived by, kept and passed down the traditions and values and riches other brave men and women passed on to them.

Thank you.

mainly Judeo-Christian businessmen with guns have inherited

Judaism and Christianity are not one and the same, nor are they conjoined twins.  Jews do not acknowledge or accept Jesus Christ.  They reject him and worse.

Why people like you keep lumping them together has only to do with the fact that you are trying to pull the wool over the eyes of those of us who know the difference.

Judaism is unconditionally and diametrically and vehemently anti- Jesus Christ as who he said he was and what Christians believe.

Try again.

As for Muslims, they believe Jesus Christ was a great prophet and show him immense respect. 

Jews do just the opposite.

If this is not true, please explain why I am wrong with proof.

Pe: I stand corrected.

Anon: “Because of the gross mismanagement of both administration of their respective conflict.”

Not according to your boy Zarqawi.  The recently discovered documents reveal our plan is working quite well.  You need an update, boy.

Another leftie meme bites the dust.

Murtha sees this as his leg-up to a run at the White House. My God, how delusional can a politician be?

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WOW, do you really think so.  I know he wants to be speaker.  But White House.

WOW.

I never thought that.

THX

He is nearing the age at which he will have to make that last choice. This is his last chance.

Speaking of chances of that happening, snowball and hell come to mind!

I am not saying he has a chance, even of gaining the nomination. Only that this is his last chance to try.