MSNBC Hopes Connecticut School Shooting Will Create “Political Capital” For Gun Control

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“One would hope that there will be some political capital to reform the way in which we handle gun and gun violence in this country,” said MSNBC’s Alex Wagner while covering the tragic story of a school shooting in Connecticut.

This, of course, is the norm for these sort of stories. The gun control fanatics latch on to some high-profile incident inolving guns to perpetuate their drive to disarm Americans. Because never let a good crisis go to waste, right?

But I don’t get the logic. We know that gun control laws only keep guns out of the hands of people who are inclined to follow those laws. Criminals have no such inclinations. In fact, the reason why the criminals who perpetrate these mass shootings tend to pick places like schools and universities is because the people there are unarmed.

The gun control zealots would respond to these tragedies by forcing all of America to be as disarmed and vulnerable as these enclaves of no gun zones which are the chosen targets of mass-killers.

It makes no logical sense.

Rob Port is the editor of SayAnythingBlog.com. In 2011 he was a finalist for the Watch Dog of the Year from the Sam Adams Alliance and winner of the Americans For Prosperity Award for Online Excellence. In 2013 the Washington Post named SAB one of the nation's top state-based political blogs, and named Rob one of the state's best political reporters. He writes a weekly column for several North Dakota newspapers, and also serves as a policy fellow for the North Dakota Policy Council.

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  • whowon

    These horrible people don’t have souls. God Bless all who died.

  • RCND

    Executive order coming out… just wait

    • $8194357

      Barry already tearfully promised assault rifle bans comming.
      In Kenya…Machettes and fire were used to drive the point home that
      Barrys cousin Odinga and his communist/islamic alliance needed a larger slice of the political pie…every totalitarian state since Islam started confiscating weapons after caliphate conquest back 1400 years ago want a civillian populace unable to defend themselves…
      A cause to hide statist tryanical agndas is nothing new to factual history, huh….

      • Neiman

        When he replaces a justice or two, it will be the super legislative Court amending the 2nd amendment

        • $8194357

          International law justices already sittin
          and waiting their colleques..

  • camsaure

    This is a “false flag” operation orchestrated by the obuma admin through Eric Holder with help from SEIU and other unions. Hillary already made and signed the the UN arms deal but needs to get the public on board. What better way than by harming children? Remember the unions said “there will be blood”.(the union officals know they will be among the “elite” and not be disarmed. The planning for all this started way back during the OWS movement and Wisc. teachers strike. They have done a good job keeping it secret until now, but still hope to until they can further “change” the constitution. The Fed judge declaring certain gun laws in ILL(obuma’s homey turf) was the last straw. They needed to act NOW. Look for more such acts in the future until their victory. NOW, before you think I am nuts and went off the deep end, this is sarcasm. BUT, this is a perfect example of just how the left media spins all news in favor of the Left/progressives and against the right.

    • Onslaught1066

      It’s just Dr. obama finishing up 27 botched abortions.

      • dakotacyr

        Clearly you are an ass!

        • RCND

          I am rarely with you, but I am on that.

          • Onslaught1066

            Who cares.

        • Onslaught1066

          Clearly, but you are an asses by product.

        • Onslaught1066

          Besides which, I thought you were on board with obama’s policy of “No child left alive”.

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      Wait,are you suggesting Obama had something to do with the shooting?

      Because that’s an insane conclusion.

      • RCND

        Agreed

      • camsaure

        C’mon Rob read the post!!! I stated clearly in it that it is sarcasm. It’s a demonstration on how the yellow media tries to portray conservatism. Remember how they try to portray the tea party? Problem is they get away with it and we don’t. Actually the conservatives are too honest to try to portray their opposition in such manner. I am merely demonstrating tha absurdity of the left which we are certain to witness in the coming days. By the way God bless those inocent people, my heart is out to them.

        • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

          I’m glad it was sarcasm.

          Probably should have been a little more clear about that, because it wasn’t at all clear to me.

    • dakotacyr

      time to up your medications, dude!

      • Onslaught1066

        Time to up the number of burr holes in your head.

      • camsaure

        Cryer, You liberal creeps can’t stand it whern someone illustrates the absurdity of the progressive/liberals with a little sarcasm.

        • Guest

          Your argument is so profoundly retarded it hurts. You make up a convoluted story about Unions orchestrating this massacre as tantamount to uncited liberal spin. I think your retarded post speaks for itself, thanks for making your side look bad though!

  • SigFan

    What a horrible tragedy. The guy – they say maybe two guys – that did this should rot in hell for it. The one that killed himself already is I’m sure.

    I agree Rob – gun free zone is simply another way of saying you can kill here without too much worry about resistance. If one or more of the teachers or school staff were armed then they may have been able to stop this sooner and with less loss of innocent life. If they want real gun control then the law should say that if you are convicted of a crime involving use of a firearm in which people died or were wounded it’s an automatic death penalty. No appeals, no years on death row. Conviction to execution in the same day.

  • yy4u2

    Only in libtard utopia will there be no guns and no more violence. Why? Because they said no one will get them except perhaps law enforcement and military. Then they can go back to singing Kumbayah, not shower, and demand someone take care of all their other needs and wants.

    • VocalYokel

      In the former USSR the strict ‘control’ of guns lead to an increased number of homicides…of cops.
      They were killed in order to procure their weapons.
      Those who doubt the logic of this tactic should research the history of the SP-45 ‘Liberator’ pistol used in WWII.

  • LibertyFargo

    If we follow the logic of MSNBC here… we should outlaw knives too…

    http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/385705/man-stabs-22-children-in-china-authorities#.UMt6ptPjlU4

    • LibertyFargo
    • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

      And the wheel … and isn’t a knife just the wedge-form of inclined plane? Let’s get to the root of these matters.

      • $8194357

        Machettes and the sword have killed millions..
        Its not the tool…
        Its the fool using it…

        • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

          Reading The Great Big Book of Horrible Things will definitely give one some perspective on these matters. Being knifed, hacked, and chopped has a frisson of terror to it not achievable by a gun. As is said: “Charge a gun; flee a knife”—and not just because you might be able to outrun the knife. A knifer is likely to act more quickly and reflexively, while an amateur shooter will hesitate. It is amazing what a skilled knife-wielder with a quality weapon can achieve in seconds in an unarmed crowd. You might run out of bullets, and you might miss a few shots, but you don’t run out of knife—and you are unlikely to miss. Check out “mass knifings” and “running amok.”

          • $8194357

            The sword/knife has been the islamic jihadist weapon of choice since alla gave mo the decree to smite at the neck of “all” unbelievers…

          • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

            In Indonesia & Malaysia the knife is virtually worshiped. I believe that all adult male Sikhs wear one, and a dagger is standard with Scottish male traditional dress. Of course, blades are also venerated in Japan, and I recall that one of the famous mass knifings took place there a number of years back. Such goings-on are not rare in China as well. Personally, I’d rather stick with guns. More of an equalizer.

          • $8194357

            Yup

          • two_amber_lamps

            All the lip-service the left pays to equality, yet they’d strip all of their right to own that device that truly makes those who own one equal. Just goes to show they’re perfectly content with bullies… the biggest being an authoritarian government, who incidentally would hold all the guns in their great utopia of tomorrow.

          • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

            Yet who rises up and rants on the “bullying” issue? Practically every moral/ethical issue the Left pushes is something they themselves are most guilty of. Is it simply projection, or their private hotline to the Devil? It sure works for them.

  • dakotacyr

    You are damned right, when you can’t go Christmas shopping, can’t go to a movie, can’t send your babies to school, you bet we damn well better have a conversation.

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      Uh, right.

      I’m going Christmas shopping and to a movie with my wife later today. We’ll be perfectly safe.

      Your hysterics are laughable.

      • dakotacyr

        tell that to the people who went Christmas shopping in Clackamas and a movie in Aurora and don’t forget to kiss those kids on the way to school, cuz you just never know.

        • Onslaught1066

          You don’t have a gun, do you, crier?

          Cuz you’re starting to sound all young and 20 y.o. and depressed and anti-depressed and paxil-ly.

          • Guest

            Oh onshat1066, you’re such a sh*thead!

        • $8194357

          What happens when crazy young home grown wackos aren’t enough to accomplish the agendas for the left?
          Islamic sleeper cells? Russia got a taste of what jihadist think of their children didn’t they.
          How can you keep being so dang useful to the idiots of anti-American agendas?

        • camsaure

          Cryer, You liberal jerks don’t believe in Christmas anyway.

  • Thresherman

    It takes a pretty low form of a human to look at blood and loss and see only political opportunity.

    • $8194357

      The name is liberal…
      As Rahm said:
      A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.

  • Davo

    What’s the conservative plan to cut down on spree killings like this?

    • RCND

      Make sure the good guys are not restricted from being able to shoot back

      • Davo

        Should teachers keep shotguns next to their desk?

        • RCND

          Nice try with the strawman.

          • Guest

            Teachers aren’t good guys?

        • matthew_bosch

          Maybe not shotguns next to desks, but offer conceal carry, EMT, self-defense training to teachers. EMT training should be a mandatory credit for public high school students.

    • camsaure

      C’mon, we are trying, we are trying to defeat Liberlism/progressivism along with all it’s inherent evils such as these guys who come with it.

    • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

      We could start by allowing concealed carry in all public buildings and on all public property.

      • two_amber_lamps

        Because everyone knows you don’t bring guns to “gun free” zones… it’s like kryptonite for criminals!!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7pGt_O1uM8

      • Neiman

        Please tell me where in the Second Amendment there is even a hint of any such restrictions being possible: “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

        Infringed: to encroach upon something in a way that violates the law or the rights of another.

        If I cannot bear arms wherever I go, then should my freedom, perhaps just to live, be unconstitutionally threatened in a public building, if I am prevented from having my gun with me, is not my right infringed?

        Nonetheless, please do not be fooled, with Obama and a bunch of really old farts on the Supreme Court, the Second Amendment will suffer serious infringement, not by Congress, but the Judiciary, now a super legislative branch.

        • Mike Adamson

          Check the third word in the Amendment.

          • Neiman

            Oh, I don’t doubt you liberals will use that crap to end the 2nd Amendment; but just for the record, when it was written practically every man had a gun and they were not formally in any reserves or national guard, but expected to get their gun and come running when there was trouble. Also, you should note this, although you will not “right of the people to keep and bear arms.”Get it “the people” not a militia, not the state military, “the people.” So, if honesty were to prevail and with liberals it never will, it is “the people,” average citizens right.

          • Mike Adamson

            Do you know why the right of the people to keep and bear arms must not be infringed? It’s because a well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state. Americans have the right to keep and bear arms but try to think about why that is and how it is best accomplished i.e. is there a way to keep your nation safe without so many gun related deaths which have no connection with state security?

          • Bat One

            Mike, That “well regulated militia” argument you and others cite in arguing for more stringent gun control was pretty well obliterated in the Supreme Court’s decision in Heller v. District of Columbia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller), and in McDonald v. Chicago as well.

            I can understand how Heller and McDonald make liberals cringe with rage, but try to think of the frustration you feel as a small taste of what most Americans have come to feel about the Roe v. Wade decision. The difference, of course, is that while “the right to keep and bear arms” is right there in the Constitution, word for word, the “right” to abortion is hidden behind some murky penumbra.

          • Mike Adamson

            I think that the quantity of guns floating around America is absurd but I’m realistic enough to understand that cultural quirks are difficult to change and that gun control will never exist in America as in other nations. I understand the legal logic behind your two cases but I reject the idea that massacres like this one are part of the price of defending against tyranny. I think the starting point is addressing the folly of people with mental illness enjoying access to weapons. That is the practical issue to be solved since most people can own a gun or three without trying to kill someone and I think America can remain free even if individuals at risk of firearm misuse face more restrictions than do saner Americans. It will cost money in terms of identifying those who really shouldn’t have access to guns and the lack of financial incentive means that the State will likely have to do it but I’d be surprised if a majority wasn’t in favour..

            It’s not easy but it’s important to think and talk about it IMO.

          • Neiman

            It says “the people” not a militia have a right to keep and bear arms. If you feel that is wrong and your safety is more important to yo than your liberty, please take the issue to the people and try and amend the Bill of Rights. But, until then, it is unAmerican to allow the Congress to pass any laws of any kind infringing upon those rights in any manner, or for the Judiciary to read exceptions into it that do not exist in the actual words or for the Executive to enforce any unconstitutional laws in that regard. It is also not American for the states to infringe on those rights or any community, in any manner, shape or form, which they do daily in this country in violation of that Constitution.

            Go ahead, ask the people to amend it and I will vote against it, but applaud your honesty in changing those rights by the only right constitutional corrective. If your side, the Left chooses any other course to change those clear words, to infringe in the smallest way, the people should rise up and by force overthrow such a government.

      • dakotacyr

        Really? Let’s arm kindergarten teachers. Gees, how utterly ridiculous. Is that what we have come to in this country that we have to arm kindergarten teachers around our babies.

        • Onslaught1066

          No, Mr, Retard, this country has come to the point where any deranged liberal with guns can just walk into a shooting gallery and win hisself a Kewpie doll by killing 20 or so children, with no opposition whatsoever.

          Don’t that just make make you all warm and squishy inside?

          Knowing that the only thing that shooter had to fear was… Himself?

        • two_amber_lamps

          Adults take responsibility for children?? WHAT A CONCEPT!!

          No, you’re right… you may now return to your regularly scheduled burying of your head in the sand Comrade “Blame the gun” fascist. The reason deviants go to schools and colleges is precisely because of the silly sign you paste over the door allegedly denying admittance by those in possession of firearms. S$%tbirds don’t like it when bullets fly in both directions.

        • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

          Well, we know gun control doesn’t work.

          What have you got against self defense?

    • Onslaught1066

      Concentration camps for liberals.

      • Mike Adamson

        here here

        • Onslaught1066

          What? In Canada?

          • Mike Adamson

            nah…sarcasm

      • Spartacus

        Using the term “Liberals” and “concentrate” in the same sentence creates an oxymoron.

        • Onslaught1066

          I’m only using the definition that says they are squeezed together in a tiny space.

          If hanniturd has taught me anything, it is that I can ignore any other definition of a word that does not suite me or make up a definition if there is not one that serves my purpose.

    • Spartacus

      Since the shooter was a citizen of the Liberal hell hole known as New Jersey, the first part of any Conservative plan should be banning Liberals from owning, borrowing, stealing or even looking at pictures of guns.

      • $8194357

        Or children…..

    • DonnyB

      My plan is called the “Alienated and Twisted Young Man Ban” or the ATYMB for short. It would identify and incarcerate young men deemed to have no regard for human life and/or inability to determine right from wrong, and isolate them from society at large so they can do no harm, not with guns, not with knifes, not with automobiles, explosives, chemicals, household cleaning products, power tools, sharp pencils, cutlery, bows and arrows, rocks, pipes sections, bats, hockey sticks, tennis racquets, broom handles, beverage bottles, rope and other sundry potentially lethal objects.

      • Onslaught1066

        Ya gotta’ catch ‘em young and before they make presmadent.

      • two_amber_lamps

        Once they’re incarcerated, perhaps we SHOULD give them access to some of the implements you mentioned….

        Might cut down on the warehousing costs…..

  • Neiman

    It is not about guns, it is about the cheapening of life, which is the result of our becoming a godless society, with no fear of Judgment. After Liberals, Libertarians and Atheists (They are all the same thing) kicked Nature’s God out of the public square, we immediately had riots in the streets and many deaths, including assassinations and an orgy of baby murders started that has already exceeded 50 million, with life now being disposable and with no fear of the consequences. It is not about guns or no guns, it is about God or no God.

    • Mike Peterson

      I’m a Roman Catholic Libertarian… I’m not sure how you can throw me in the fire when our number one philosophy is liberty and the non-aggression principle. Ronald Reagan also said libertarianism is the heart of conservatism because in the end they both want the same thing – less government, less taxes and more individual freedom. But I appreciate the stones.

      • Neiman

        It is funny how people in this world, supposing themselves Christian, oppose themselves. It is odd to say Roman Catholic and Libertarian, until we realize most Roman Catholics laugh at their Church and do what the hell they want and say to hell with Church teachings. So, maybe not so strange at all.

        At the heart of Libertarianism is moral anarchy, they like their Liberal and Atheist brethren wanted separation of church and state, they did not want their legislators voting a Christian conscience, no that was imposing their moral values on others and once that imposing of values was gone only evil was left to fill the vacuum. That is not freedom that is moral anarchy and denying Christians their right to be free from the immorality of others, it is granting immorality freedom to oppress moral people.

        Either God and your Church are first in your life or something else will be first. In the case of most like minded people, you call yourself Catholic and Christian and serve Baal and Mammon, not God. This country was founded by and our Constitution was written to rule only a religious people (Christian) and it will serve no others, which is why it is falling apart at the seams. You and your fellow travelers chose to eject Nature’s God and now should have no complaints when you have sown a Libertine spirit in the land.

    • Guest

      But murder rates today are about the same as they were in 1950. And murder rates today are lower than they were in the 18th and 19th centuries, and drastically lower than they were in these middle ages. Don’t let these realities interfere with the past that you make up.

      • Neiman

        There were riots, assassinations, murders and a host of evil followed your kicking God out of the public square in 1962. Don’t tell me liberal revisionist, I was there.

        • Guest

          Well here are the facts http://www.bjs.gov/content/homicide/tables/totalstab.cfm if this chart went forward to today it would be 4.7 per 100000 compared to 4.6 in 1950. Oh no facts!! Don’t let those interfere with your pretend version of reality though.

          • Neiman

            You forgot the 50+ million murdered babies that are not in those statistics didn’t you? Statistics are not reality Christ hater, they are made up and manipulated by you liberal scum every day.

            Now get this straight stupid, right after 1962, the first SCOTUS decision against God, we had riots in the streets, assassinations and murders like we had not had in decades and add in the abortions and murder rates have soared. Now go somewhere else with your lies, you failed here.

          • Guest

            You literally have the maturity level of a 2 year old. The second
            comment you said has no basis in reality , look at the statistics and
            you will see no jump in those years. If you are calling my reputable
            source lies you can look a variety of other places and see the same
            crime statistics; they are reputable and factual. All you can do is
            revert to the abortion issue, but that is not directly related to what
            we are talking about. You were attributing events such as this to a
            continuing decline in American society. On the whole homicide and crime
            rates have been improving for well over a decade now. I do see how you
            do become angry when cold hard facts don’t match up with the fantasies
            that go on in your mind. When you respond please do not respond with
            some childish response like you love the devil, you are a liberal, you
            lie, or anymore childish things I see you normally come up with from
            what I have seen on this blog. Stick to what is being debated which is homicides such as the one above, not abortion policy which like you said has remained similar for the last 40 years.

          • Neiman

            A. I will reply any way I choose, I do not take orders from fools.
            B. You cannot be truthful and not include abortion in the murder rates and your damned statistics do not include them.
            C. Your statistics are lies without abortion being included.

            You are just a sorry Christ hater, a liberal revisionist and a damned fool.

          • Guest

            A. I thought I told you to not give a two year old emotion based response (note your childish conclusion as well) B. Abortions have been happening less each year and reached their peak level in 1979. Also any analysis before then is hard to say since it was illegal before. I have seen figures of an estimated 2 million in the 1890s and here is a statistic from a pro life group about abortion before Roe v. Wade which has 600,000 abortions in the year before the case, of course since it was illegal in most places much likely is not included http://www.rtl.org/prolife_issues/abortionstats_us.html maybe just maybe prohibition doesn’t necessarily work. I digress though. Your thesis, that murder has continually gotten worse with the deterioration of American culture simply is not true. Homicide rates, and abortion rates have been declining. Your disregard and anger towards cold hard statistics and realities is appalling.

          • Neiman

            You are all accusations and no proof, I am not angry, I just do not tolerate fools easily. Your liberal statistics and historical revisionism are of no interest to me.

            I told you that you are not man enough to tell me what to do, and your name calling only shows your juvenile mind and insecurities.

          • Guest

            They are not liberal statistics they are statistics from a non partisan government agency. You can search around for more statistics but it will simply be more of the same. What better evidence could I give you than the cold hard numbers? Non of it historic revision it is simple statistics and arithmetic. You can continue to try construct an alternative reality, but just so we all know the delusions you will be speaking of don’t have basis in the real world as you reject facts that don’t fit your opinions.

          • Neiman

            You have been proven wrong and now you are just blowing smoke out your anal orifice because you’re scared.

          • Guest

            Quite the contrary. You have not addressed any of the facts that I have shown you.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            S M A C K ! ! ! </B?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            10x

          • guest

            Speaking of 10x…she gives great head, and she enjoys taking it up butt.

          • two_amber_lamps

            I’m sure those rates have NOTHING to do with improvements in trauma management and emergency medicine…. Derp.

          • Guest

            Maybe that has to do with some of the decline in the last close to two decades, could be 5.4 per 100,000 today or something like that compared to 4.5 to 1950 if you figure that in all by itself. What we do know is this. Besides simply homicides, violent crime rates are generally all trending downward as well, look even Rob reported on it on this blog.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Nice backpedal pederast…. the true “boon” for trauma care occurred during the Korean and Vietnam conflicts, and much of the lessons learned translated back to care in the ER’s back here stateside during the 80’s and 90’s. What do you know about this? Nothing but the anecdotal information you read on the interwebz. Why don’t you shut up while you’re behind since all you can do is quote what you can regurgitate from your pathetic google searches? Derp!

          • Guest

            Well the murder rate has declined since 1994 if you look at the chart so most of your 80s and 90s still had very high homicide rates. Here’s the chart if you want to look at it again http://www.bjs.gov/content/homicide/tables/totalstab.cfm. When I do make comments I usually do go double check on the internet to make sure my facts are right. You wouldn’t know much about checking to make sure your facts are right? You just assume whatever thoughts go on in your mind are automatically correct because you say so, pretty accurate right. Please show me you can respond with a real response and not a bunch of childish gibberish/name-calling like the majority of response above and like your friend Nieman above.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Good job on glossing over the very FACTS I mentioned above that justify the very statistics you’re more than willing to admit you gleaned from the internet. What do you know about emergency medicine? What do you know about battlefield trauma management? An ashermann chest seal vs. an occlusive dressing? Can you answer to this? What about the PACKAGE the occlusive dressing comes in? What is the difference? YOU DON’T KNOW BECAUSE YOU ONLY KNOW THE PRECIOUS LITTLE YOU READ ON THE INTERNET AND THAT WHICH YOUR MOM LETS YOU READ ON THE INTERNET IN YOUR LITTLE BASEMENT WORLD YOU INSIGNIFICANT LITTLE LEFTIST TROLL PEON!

            No worries, Hank Aaron of the leftist idiocy will keep fanning on the fat pitches I keep throwing him because he’s a professed expert… OF THE GOOGLE SEARCH BAR.

            Ooops… almost forgot…. Derp!

          • Guest

            I don’t need to know how to do the job of a medic to state basic information. I know trends and then I use sources to back what I say. Would you get mad if you read an academic journal and the author cited sources. Are you against reading books to since they have info? Your comments above did match up with the dates in the data, and like has been stated along with the homicide rate, the violent crime has been decreasing each year as well. Medical innovations does nothing to explain the latter, and in the former your argument is total bunk. Your statement is that the number of homicides decreased because lives have been saved. This would mean that there should be greater incidents of violence that results in injury but not death. Unfortunately the incidents of non-fatal violence and especially gun injuries that don’t result in death have been falling off as well. So despite your use of capitals and rambling on with all kinds of nonsense you are wrong. Please stick to the topic and try not to be too incredibly immature in your response.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Thank you for once again proving that you’re nothing more than a regurgitator of google knowledge who knows nothing outside the cinderblock walls of your mom’s basement.

            “Medical innovations does nothing to explain the latter, and in the former your argument is total bunk.”

            PROVE IT.

            “This would mean that there should be greater incidents of violence that
            results in injury but not death. Unfortunately the incidents of
            non-fatal violence and especially gun injuries that don’t result in
            death have been falling off as well.”

            Would you like to know why?

            http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/crimes-underreported-by-police-include-robbery-rape-e567cu0-167448105.html

            In addition to the better medical care available it “pays” for major PD’s across the country to mis-report statistics since it helps keep Police Chiefs in office when they can artificially bend the numbers to look that “violence has gone down.” But then how would you know that? You might have to know something about law enforcement and political motivations re: such to make such a deduction…. And as you mentioned earlier, you don’t need to know about such things to make (baseless) conclusions….

            You remind me of the ivory tower idiots of Comrade Obummer’s administration who’ve made careers of college education and “research papers” who’ve got almost no real world experience in such matters but make broadstroke decisions on national policy, then gnash their teeth and howl that it’s not their fault when their conclusions are found to be categorically flawed.

            But you just keep googlin’ there ol’ boy! It’ll come to ya eventually!

            DERP!

          • Guest

            I did prove it non fatal gun injuries today are a third nation wide than what they were twenty years ago. It does not even mean that the gun injury was a crime just that someone was shot. Hospital records report similar rates as well. Nice try to construct a nation wide conspiracy. Even your conspiracy is flawed for one it is only based on one metropolitan area, it is based on the false assumption that none of this went on before, the subject in the article is not misreporting gun injuries it was misreporting crime, and even the margin errors in the article would not explain a shrink to one third of what it was before. Why don’t you just stop wasting my time, save some of your dignity, and admit that you are wrong.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Chief Richard Pennington, releasing an audit of police practices Friday,
            warned that Atlanta is the most dangerous city in America and
            criticized his department for routinely underreporting crime.

            http://www.bestplaces.net/docs/studies/crime6.aspx

            NYPD Police Tactic: Keeping Crime Reports Off the Books

            http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/31/nyregion/nypd-leaves-offenses-unrecorded-to-keep-crime-rates-down.html?pagewanted=all

            SF police underreport arrest rates for Latinos, Asians

            http://www.baycitizen.org/policing/story/sf-police-underreport-arrest-rates/

            Experts: Dallas undercount of assaults builds ‘artificial image’

            http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/dallas/headlines/20091214-Experts-Dallas-undercount-of-assaults-6330.ece

            And the VERY STATISTICS you hang your tiny little hat on….

            The FBI’s crime reporting program is considered the final word on crime
            trends in the United States, but the agency rarely audits police
            agencies providing the information and when it does its reviews are too
            cursory to identify deep flaws.

            http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/fbi-crimereporting-audits-are-shallow-infrequent-cg5uvel-166665516.html

            Perhaps the FBI is too busy hunting up all those terrorists that Eric Holder allows to run amok? Or maybe they’re too busy being stymied by the Executive Branch over the Benghazi affair to check up on these stats being delivered by PD’s across the nation?

            I realize you have lots of time working the midnight shifts at the 7-11 and you have nothing better to do than suck bandwidth off the starbucks up the street, but perhaps you should go back to reading the ingredients label on that last box of hostess doughnuts you and your queer lover will use as c#ck rings later tonight….

            Derp.

          • Guest

            Everything I said before except now four cities. I am actually lookin at stats from the national safety council right now, same results for non lethal gun injury, every place says the same thing in the stats, hospital surveys whatever it does not matter. Give up on your conspiracy and save a little dignity and admit your wrong. Or keep being dumb and try to see you many times you can say cock or libtard or whatever your undersized brain can come up with. It’s up to you I don’t really care what you do.

          • two_amber_lamps

            Ohhh!!! I see… first it was everywhere but Milwaukee…. now it’s everywhere but the FIVE cities I mentioned.

            http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20090618/METRO/906180406

            Oh… how about Baltimore?

            http://davidsimon.com/dirt-under-the-rug/

            ANOTHER variable you don’t bother to take into account (thanks to your armchair 7-11 attendant experience with respect to the CJ system) is the fact that charges are ROUTINELY dropped to lesser offenses due to the fact that attorneys won’t charge what they know they (reasonably?) believe they can’t win. Therefore felony assaults/attempted murder are routinely reduced to simple assaults and misdemeanors. In states like CA, NY, FL…. charges are routinely reduced since there’s no SPACE in jails for said offenders. Net result? The crime statistics are ARTIFICIALLY adjusted downward.

            But Comrade 7-11 jailhouse attorney, please continue convincing yourself you know all the facts staring at your statistics. Also, please keep voting up your own posts…. lol!

            Derp!

          • Guest

            You miss the point my stat was not crime they were on non lethal gun injury.

          • two_amber_lamps

            But Comrade 7-11 jailhouse attorney, please continue convincing
            yourself you know all the facts staring at your statistics. Also,
            please keep voting up your own posts…. lol!

            Derp!

          • two_amber_lamps

            Let’s also address another lie of yours…. the one regarding the efficacy of hospitals and it’s effects on murder rates which you claimed

            “Medical innovations does nothing to explain the latter, and in the
            former your argument is total bunk. Your statement is that the number of homicides decreased because lives have been saved.”
            -Derpmeister

            For all the theoretical talk of ”broken windows” and ”zero
            tolerance” policing that has dominated the public discourse on crime during the past decade, research published this year suggests that the most significant factor in keeping the homicide rate down is something much more practical: faster ambulances and better care in the emergency room…. In ”Murder and Medicine,” a paper published in May in the journal
            Homicide Studies, Harris and three other researchers determined that the
            murder rate is being artificially suppressed because thousands of
            potential homicide victims each year are now receiving swift medical
            attention and surviving. –Ryan Liza NYTimes

            dEEEEERRRRRP!

          • Guest

            Yeah then there would be non lethal injuries because they survived unfortunately they are a third of what they were before.

          • two_amber_lamps

            But Comrade 7-11 jailhouse attorney, please continue convincing
            yourself you know all the facts staring at your statistics. Also,
            please keep voting up your own posts…. lol!!

            Derp!

    • Toaster Crisp

      Another
      20 yo male. The Giffords shooting, Batman, the mall in Clakamas, all
      done by young men in their early 20 who were clinically depressed and
      took anti-depressants at some point. If this turns out to be the case
      yet again, maybe Paxil, Zoloft, etc need a hard look at.

      Remember,
      the used to feed these same drugs to minors and stopped because of the
      high suicide rate among patients. Then it was deemed OK to give people
      after age 18. Maybe not so much.

      The truth however will cost the head doctors and Big Pharma BILLIONS.

      • TaterSalad

        The liberal way is to drugh everyone. Pot is the starter. Now the government gives SSI to kids for ADHD and anxiety and there is nothing wrong with them.

    • TaterSalad

      Exactly! Add the Godless nation perpetuated by the liberal society that portrays conservatism as evil, then mix kill & shoot video games into the mix….a free society has no means to defend itself when laws are changed to favor liberals. When society is not afraid to do bad things on society itself with no consequences of going to hell, this is the end result. I blame liberals …period!

      • Neiman

        I blame liberals too, but don’t forget the GOP amoral types and atheists among conservatives that allow the liberals to win through apathy.

      • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

        What about the Japanese? They don’t do this sort of thing, and they don’t believe in God. Your entire argument is just stupid. Even dumber than the argument Rob is trying to attack, which is most likely the way society is going to handle this thing. The 2nd amendment needs to be taken literally and we need to realize that it’s being misinterpreted. It is.

        • TaterSalad

          Your answer sounds kinda stupid also. You must be the typical left wing moron who wants to gut the Constitution. Go play your video games because I’m putting money on this one that this shooter was a video game freak that played kill & shoot games all day long.

        • TaterSalad

          Buddha!

        • Onslaught1066

          No, tiny fruitcake, I don’t suppose they do.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarin_gas_attack_on_the_Tokyo_subway

        • $16179444

          wait, ALL Japanese don’t believe in God? you are a fucking moron.

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            It was a general statement. Japan is not a Christian nation, yet they don’t have the same problem. Maybe they just don’t have hate-filled conservatives, maybe that’s why our country has this epidemic?

          • guest

            Says the scumbag who owns semi automatic weapons. Who are you planning to kill, nutjob?

          • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

            Less dumbass conservatives in our country, less gun violence. Same argument.

          • guest

            Dumb comment from Rob’s pet troll. Mean while, you’re the nutjob with a semi automatic weapon on the edge of a mental break down. We’ll be reading about your rampage through a school, or a republican office any day now. Will you kill off your mongoloid parents before you eat your gun?

          • Phil

            Since this tragic incident took place in Connecticut, more than likely the shooter was raised by democrats, which would account for his warped mind and his hatred for anyone not with the same mind set.

  • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

    Liberals get drunk on blood.

    • Neiman

      Quite true!

    • VocalYokel

      If only we could get them to drink each others blood and not ours.

      • http://flamemeister.com flamemeister

        Eventually (sigh …) they do.

    • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

      Howz Costa Rica these day?

  • JD

    If you outlaw guns, noone would have them, not even criminals. It is just like drugs. We outlawed those and noone had them. Right? Oops. Except the criminals.

    Gun laws keep guns out of the hands of people who follow laws.

  • Spartacus

    The shooting happened on ObamAA-‘s watch, which makes it his fault.

    • $8194357

      Bush did it…
      Evil NRA conservitives…

  • http://Sayanythingblog.com The Whistler

    Liberals have no shame. They can’t wait to exploit a tragedy like this.

    • mickey_moussaoui

      aka Jamie Foxx

    • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

      Benghazi……..

      Come again?

      • $16179444

        your president has blood on his hands.

        • Hannitized, Proofs obsession

          Romney and the rest of conservatards exploited Benghazi, and now you want to compare how much blood Bush and Obama have in their hands? Every president does.

          Holy crap, you are stupid.

          • guest

            Hello hanna. Rob’s SAB addicted pet troll makes his Sunday afternoon appearance to get his attention fix. No one mentioned Bush, but you. Your obsession wityh him is as great as your obsession with Palin. obama and his administration created the Benghazi murders, and coverup and the Fast/Furious murder. His hands are bloody.
            Holy crap, you’re pathetic.But, no one blames you, you’re the product of mongoloids.

  • nimrod

    To reduce carnage in school shooting situations, we should require several of the administration and teachers in each public school to be trained and carry concealed weapons. If you want to inflict mass casualties now, a school is the best place, because no one except law enforcement can legally carry in a school, so you can shoot until you run out of ammo without taking return fire.

    • Mike Adamson

      If the kids had been packing then they might have had a chance.

      • 308T

        He didn’t say kids, he said Admin & teachers. Should be armed & trained guards at all entrances to schools as well.

        • Guest

          There are about 7 million teachers in America, 1 in 4 Americans is said to have a mental disorder and 6% are said to have a severe mental disorder. What happens when some of these people who you are arming and training themselves turn out to be crazy, or what happens when your kids 2nd Grade Teacher forgot to lock the compartment in his desk where his hand gun was?

          • 308T

            I’d give you a cogent explanation but it wouldn’t penetrate your ignorant liberal skull.

          • Guest

            I take it you have no realistic answer. I simply made a very reasonable response to a radical, poorly thought out idea.

          • 308T

            I do, but like I said, common sense is lost on moose twits like you.

          • Guest

            Common sense is giving guns to your child’s teachers and having an armed guard at all entrances at schools? This is financially beyond stupid, turns our schools into prisons, and only makes the problem of gun violence in schools worse. It is evidence of your lack of common sense, not a show of you having it.

          • 308T

            Yea because not having armed guards & giving teachers the choice to carry guns has obviously been working great!

          • Guest

            There have been 100 some deaths caused by school shootings in the history of the United States and that includes Virginia Tech the deadly college shooting. In context there were 15,000 murders in the United States last year alone and over 30,000 deaths by firearms in the past year. There are about 100,000 schools in the United States. Now I don’t know how many armed guards are you gonna need to cover every entrance in a school (go drive by a school building there are a lot of exits) But lets use a small number so three guards a school. That means we will need to employ about 300,000 guards nation wide. Now you are gonna have to pay these guys, let’s say we pay them a middle wage, 40,000, if you did this it would cost tax payer dollars about $12 billion. But of course this is just the cost of labor and does not include overhead and only includes public schools. By the time it would be all said and done your ridiculously short sighted program would likely cost close to half a trillion dollars to the tax payer. More people would die from misallocation of resources even if that saved kids from school shootings. Of course that is all just in theory that it would save lives. We have over 7 million teachers in America and like I said about 25% of Americans have a mental disorder and 6% are severely mentally ill and most the shooters kill themselves in the end anyway so they are not afraid to die. You are not gonna catch all of them and some unstable people are gonna have a gun around them every single day at school, and your also going to have to make sure that these are stored away so kids don’t have an accident with firearms and injure or kill one another. None of this mentions the harm it would do to the learning environment. I can’t believe I spent so much time typing to such a ridiculous set of statements. I take it you either put no thought into the things that you have been typing or you are trying to make some type of joke.

          • 308T

            Nice theory you have there, not much in the way of proof though. Quit wasting your time with your anti-gun BS it isn’t convincing anyone but your gun hating buddies. I wonder why no kids have been killed at this school by any of your “psycho armed” teachers? go lay down by your dish http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/state&id=6321483

          • Guest

            I wonder why no kids were killed at this school before this policy, I wonder why North Dakota has not had any school shootings, I wonder why 99.999 percent of schools in America have not had school shootings. They adopted a policy to allow a few teachers to have guns in a school with like 100 kids and they have had no school shootings for a couple years, wow. If you drove a car drunk once and didn’t get in an accident would that be proof to you that drinking and driving doesn’t have increased potential to do harm. If you are trying to show that you lack common sense please keep going with your comments.

          • 308T

            Yea ND!, high gun ownership,dominated by conservative political beliefs & bottom of the barrel homicide rate. But wait, I thought when lots of guns are present with easy access to them people automatically get killed at an astonishingly high rate? At least that what lying libtards would have us believe. GFY “guest”, your arguments hold as much water as a jug peppered with a 30 round AR magazine. Your common sense is on par with Joel Heitkamps perfect teeth.

          • Guest

            Nice insults from the guy who proposed that we have armed guards at all entrances in our schools, and give our teachers guns for a pronlem we dont have in our state. Wasting money was supposed to be a liberal thing according to people like yourself right? Guess you are the most liberal person I know because I couldnt think of a dumber idea that would waste more money than what you proposed above. How many guns do we have in our schools that have prevented these incidents from occurring in ND schools?

          • 308T

            I don’t believe paying trained ,armed guards to protect our kids to be a “waste” of money. ND is top 5 in gun ownership, why isn’t our gun homicide rate in the top 5? You are truly an ignorant fool.

          • Guest

            It’s a solution looking for a problem. Zero gun deaths in ND schools why hire hundreds to thousands of guards on the tax payer dime? Tell you what, go to your local school board and propose you idiotic plan and see what they say? On the second part yeah, most of those are hunting rifles. Also if you look at society in ND we don’t have so many of the issues as other states have that make crime in general as likely.

          • 308T

            You’re right we don’t have many of the criminal issues of other states. Because the majority of our residence have CONSERVATIVE beliefs NOT liberal/socialist beliefs like crime infested liberal dominated states. Wake the hell up!!!

          • Guest

            Conservatives states actually have a considerably higher rate of gun violence per capita. http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state

            Keep making facts up though, it’s funny watching you flail as all your arguments collapse.

          • 308T

            That’s funny, ND is in the 1-10 category & that liberal utopia of gun control(California) has the highest gun crime rate. thanks for making my point you useful idiot. Try & keep up libtard.

          • Guest

            That’s funny, your argument was conservatives values would lead to less violence but that’s demonstrably not true since conservatives states have higher rates of violence. Keep ignoring the evidence and clinging to your discredited beliefs though, conservatard.

          • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

            That can be misleading, though. Conservative states also have much lower populations, and much higher rates of gun ownership. That’s like pointing out that North Dakota has a higher rate of automobile accidents per-capita without pointing out that North Dakotans also drive more miles, per-capita.

            Another phony statistic that floats around is that conservative states have more divorces per capita. Of course, they also have more marriages.

          • Guest

            If you bothered to think through your analogy, the lower density of conservative states makes the statistics much worse since the average person will see many fewer people per day as well. The fact that they manage to have a higher per capita violent crime rate despite the fact they are less densely populated makes the statistics even more concerning.

          • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

            You are in serious need of a course on statistical analysis.

          • Guest

            You need a course in keeping your lies straight. You try to explain higher rate of gun violence in conservative states by arguing they have more guns, while not 24 hours ago you argued argued more guns lead to less violence. http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/lets-remember-that-violent-crime-in-america-has-been-trending-down-even-as-gun-sales-skyrocket/ Can’t keep you lies straight or explain bad facts so the best you can do is ad hominem attacks. Thanks again for demonstrating the depths of your hackery, Rob!

          • http://sayanythingblog.com Rob

            You’re talking specifically about gun crimes per capita, not overall crime, genius.

          • 308T

            Oh no- I just lost the argument. Maybe if I just lie and say I have defense for my bat-shit crazy idea but refuse to provide it I can still be credible. Derp.

        • Mike Adamson

          He didn’t but there’s no doubt that armed children could have fought back. It’s probably time to recognise that the occasional massacre is part of the price Americans pay for their freedom.

  • Stuart

    With the idea or philosophy of humanism that states there are no absolutes nor is there objective truth, what more an you expect from a society ? Abortion is CIVIL while the second amendment is not civil enough. We have alowed this to transpire in our Republic and degenerate the REPUBLIC into a Democracy with the society having the moral value equivalance of Intellectual disordered fools

    We have kept out the God of love and rath and made putty out of His Commanments and have evolved into this lowly humanistic form.

    Actually we’re have become mutated.

  • Guest

    First off it is a bad time to politicize events and point fingers and hopefully our thoughts and prayers are with those passed.

    That being said in the United States we have twenty times the homicide rate in comparison to other similarly wealth and industrialized nations. The United States also has by far the least restrictive gun ownership laws compared to all these nations and we own far more guns. The United States if you are going to attack liberal social and economic policies is far less liberal than these nations.

    Now none of this justifies acts and no single act can ever be tied directly to government policy. Policies in the aggregate make certain behaviors more likely than others. This does not mean that the assailants are in anyway made less responsible for their horrendous actions.

    This idea that if only we allowed everyone to have a gun and we would be so much more safe is bunk and the idea that liberal policies lead to this is totally ridiculous.

    Unfortunately actual policy action would be very difficult to implement and if done wrong such as the Chicago hand gun ban could be more burdensome than helpful

    • $8194357

      (First off it is a bad time to politicize events)
      And MSNBC along with Barry already have, huh…..
      This isn’t our first rodeo, guest…
      We know the method of operations from leftists…

      • dakotacyr

        BS, by not talking about it, it is being politicized and the politics is that we don’t every deal with mass gun violence by our government.

        • $8194357

          BS…
          Barry Soreto
          has done enough damage to the Constitution already.
          Don’t FFFF with number two…

    • dakotacyr

      Politicize events? that is simply code word for “we can never talk about sensible gun reform” ever in this country. As Ezra Klein wrote, if terrorists had attacked would we not be talking about what had to happen, or if a bridge crashed and killed people, would we not be talking about what had to change? Of course we would, and this is no different.

      • 308T

        This country had a conversation about gun control for the last 30-40 years & your side lost, start dealing with it A-hole!.

    • tony_o2

      I don’t like the idea of everyone having a gun. If they have committed a crime with a gun, they should not be allowed to have one. If they have a history of violence, they should not be allowed to have one. If they have mental disorders that alter their ability to control their actions, they should not have one.

      But we already have laws that prevent these types of people from owning guns. So what’s next? How do we prevent people (who have not yet demonstrated a threat, but will become a threat) from obtaining a gun while not infringing on the rights of those who will not use a gun to kill innocent people?

  • Stuart

    Has anyone read the letter of safety protocol this school’s administration sent out to the parents? Was it just rhetoric or did they follow protocol? If they didn’t follow protocol lawyers will swoop down on that place like buzzards on a dead carcass. No pun intended.

    This is the second occurrence in this state or have I been misinformed?How much money will the state tax payer have to dole out to these buzzards?

    I’m sure Connecticut can afford this. What a shame! And these children never had a chance. Think what could have been if a teacher had had a concealed weapons permit and defended these children and the other teachers!

    • dakotacyr

      oh, now it is the teachers’ fault because they weren’t carrying a weapon. Unbelievable.

      • camsaure

        No, Cryer it is the fault of liberalism.

  • fred

    …these same outraged liberals will go ahead and teach these kids that killing babies (i.e. abortion) is a wonderful freedom/right to have

    • Neiman

      Quite true that.

  • WOOF

    NRA goes to the mattresses.
    Tweets:
    “They’re trying to take our guns. Send money.”
    Fish search barrel for wallets.

    • mickey_moussaoui

      send jamie Foxx to kill all those NRA crackers

      • two_amber_lamps

        Hail Obama, our lord and savior!

  • $8194357

    Luke 17:1-3
    New King James Version (NKJV)

    Jesus Warns of Offenses

    17 Then He said to the disciples,
    “It is impossible that no offenses should come,
    but woe to him through whom they do come!
    2 It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck,
    and he were thrown into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
    3 Take heed to yourselves.
    If your brother sins against you,[a] rebuke him;
    and if he repents, forgive him.

    Mark 9:41-43
    New King James Version (NKJV)

    41 For whoever gives you a cup of water to drink in My name,
    because you belong to Christ, assuredly, I say to you,
    he will by no means lose his reward.

    42 “But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble,
    it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck,
    and he were thrown into the sea.

    43 If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off.
    It is better for you to enter into life maimed,
    rather than having two hands, to go to hell,
    into the fire that shall never be quenched—

    Matthew 18:5-7
    New King James Version (NKJV)

    5 Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives Me.

    6 “Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin,
    it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck,
    and he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

    7 Woe to the world because of offenses!
    For offenses must come,
    but woe to that man by whom the offense comes!

  • Davo

    How about we start requiring gun insurance? All gun owners are required to pay insurance premiums to own a gun–we can adjust the premiums by the type of gun, the type of person buying it, location, stated purpose, etc.

    It would 1) make it more difficult for crazy people to buy guns (as they’d be more expensive), and 2) Provide a greater incentive for people to take care of the guns they already do own.

    • Onslaught1066

      Your Idea presupposes you have a functioning brain, please demonstrate this alleged brain of yours by telling us where the Clackamas shooter “bought” his gun.

      • Davo

        That would only demonstrate that I have an internet connection.

        What’s your argument against Gun Insurance?

        • Onslaught1066

          Devo, let me type this slowly so you don’t miss anything.

          You said:

          “we can adjust the premiums by the type of gun, the type of person buying it,”

          I asked you to tell us where the Clackamas shooter “bought” his gun, and right on cue, your brainless A.D.D kicked in and you totally did not tell us where he “bought” his gun.

          We have some lovely parting gifts and thanks for playing.

    • 308T

      Lets require insurance on free speech too. Because when people speak their mind it has & will cause violent confrontations, even murder.

      • $8194357

        Leftist unionists would need moocho coverage, huh..

      • Onslaught1066

        Devo has a better idea, shoot people who say things he don’t like.

  • nimrod

    This shooting shows exactly how gun control does not work. No one is allowed to legally have a gun in a school except for law enforcement, so if someone wants to inflict mass carnage, an unarmed school would be one of the easiest places to do this. I suspect the number of dead would be much lower if some of the administration, teachers, and janitors were allowed (or required) to be armed.

  • $8194357

    Sure takes the “blazing hot media eye” off of Bengahzi, huh..
    (Extreme sarcasm……)

    written by Col. William Bauer, USMC …..

    The Battling Bastards of Benghazi

    We’re the Battling Bastards of Benghazi,
    no fame, no glory, no paparazzi.
    Just a fiery death in a blazing hell,
    defending the country we loved so well.

    It wasn’t our job, but we answered the call,
    fought to the consulate, ‘n scaled th’ wall.

    We pulled twenty countrymen from the jaws of fate,
    led them to safety, ‘n stood at th’ gate.
    Just the two of us, ‘n foe by th’ score,
    but we stood fast to bar th’ door.

    We called for reinforcement, but it was denied,
    so we fought, ‘n we fought, ‘n we fought, ‘n we died.

    We gave our all for our Uncle Sam,
    ‘n Obama didn’t give a damn,
    just two dead SEALS, who carried the load,
    no thanks to us, we were bumps in the road.

  • TaterSalad

    This nutcase could have used grenades or rocket launchers. The real
    problem is kill’em & shoot’em, violent video games that kids and
    young adults play hours at a time, day after day. They don’t go out and
    play baseball, there are no fields. Attacking guns legislation is not the problem.
    Attacking these types of video AND movies produced by the liberal media
    is the problem . Blaming guns is the easy way of attacking the 2nd.
    Amendment that is not the problem. Now, add a Godless society into the equation where people believe that there they will have to never pay for their consequences after death, adding these two mention tangibles to the equation is now what we are experiencing.

  • Neiman

    Bloomberg the bastard:

    Today, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, an ardent gun control advocate, moved to politicize the monstrous school shooting in Connecticut, issuing the following statement:

    With all the carnage from gun violence in our country, it’s still almost impossible to believe that a mass shooting in a kindergarten class could happen. It has come to that. Not even kindergarteners learning their A,B,Cs are safe. We heard after Columbine that it was too soon to talk about gun laws. We heard it after Virginia Tech. After Tucson and Aurora and Oak Creek. And now we are hearing it again. For every day we wait, 34 more people are murdered with guns. Today, many of them were five-year olds. President Obama rightly sent his heartfelt condolences to the families in Newtown. But
    the country needs him to send a bill to Congress to fix this problem. Calling for ‘meaningful action’ is not enough. We need immediate action.We have heard all the rhetoric before. What we have not seen is leadership – not from the White House and not from Congress. That must end today. This is a national tragedy and it demands a national response. My deepest sympathies are with the families of all those affected, and my determination to stop this madness is stronger than ever.

    Liberals never have a word to say in defense of the Constitution, because they hate that damn illiberal document and they are not willing to wait for any damn amendment process, because they do not trust the people.

    • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

      You killed those babies, Neiman.

      Your hands are bloody tonight.

      • Neiman

        Prove it or shut your lying mouth. You got nothing, whatever you say I’ll make a fool out of you, wait everyone knows you are a lying fool, I’ll just add more evidence.

        Satan is your father, lying is your game – its all you got – lies.

  • mickey_moussaoui

    Look at all those sad crackers…Jamie Foxx must be celebrating

  • sbark

    1970’s Israel……terrorists targeting schools……….wail and cry for gun control same as the Left is doing once again.

    Israel armed the teachers………….nutcases went after easier targets.

    Always remember Liberalisms 100% failure—-why would anyone take any of their suggestions on any issue—-their goals are anti USA society, their loyalty does not have the USA in its top 5.

  • H76065

    Perhaps the number of shootings has more to do with the 20 watt focus of our leader on jobs instead of his agenda? Perhaps more people are getting desperate.

  • sbark

    Yup, need more laws……….ironic that an author already shows how the ave. professional person already committs 3 felonies per day due to the asinine number of laws and regulations on the books…….(Amazon: 3 felonies a day)

    I guess the only non-criminal in this country is Obama and his cadre of radical leftists at this point.

  • Hillary Clinton

    abortion kills more children & babies than guns

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