More Women Commit Domestic Violence Then Men.

I don’t really have too much to say about this but I find it interesting in that popular culture assumes the opposite.

Regarding perpetration of violence, more women than men (25 percent versus 11 percent) were responsible. In fact, 71 percent of the instigators in nonreciprocal partner violence were women. This finding surprised Whitaker and his colleagues, they admitted in their study report.
As for physical injury due to intimate partner violence, it was more likely to occur when the violence was reciprocal than nonreciprocal. And while injury was more likely when violence was perpetrated by men, in relationships with reciprocal violence it was the men who were injured more often (25 percent of the time) than were women (20 percent of the time). “This is important as violence perpetrated by women is often seen as not serious,” Whitaker and his group stressed….
Of the study’s numerous findings, Whitaker said, “I think the most important is that a great deal of interpersonal violence is reciprocally perpetrated and that when it is reciprocally perpetrated, it is much more likely to result in injury than when perpetrated by only one partner.”

To reiterate, women are more than 2 to 1 more likely to commit domestic violence and the men were more likely to be injured.
On the other hand I’ll be prosecution of domestic violence doesn’t reflect these numbers.
I don’t find this surprising at all. I’ve never heard a man at work say he should hit a female coworker but I have heard women saying that a male coworker deserves to be slapped.

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  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/Anna/ Anna

    the guys almost always assumed wrong.

    Pff… perhaps because the guy IS wrong 99.9% of the time, it’s hard not to see him wrong in most all that he does?
    Mwhahaha…. ;-)

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I’m more fearful of the legal ramifications.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Alas, poor WOOF! He doesn’t have the skill it takes to pull off good humor! I scream for a good humor man!

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    If my wife was prone to violence (she’s not) I sure as heck would carry a mini tape recorder to protect myself.

    That’s because in a he said she said situation the guys almost always assumed wrong.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    They make a compact version.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    I’m more fearful of the legal ramifications.

    I used to carry a legal ramification! But I didn’t like what it did to the lines of my suit jacket!

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I provided a link to a study and you counter with the same old man hater stuff.

    More importantly is that the violence often starts with the women but it’s the women that can get hurt worse. What that shows to me is that treating it as a male-only problem is the wrong way to go.

    That is if you actually want to reduce domestic violence, which I don’t think is a higher priority than male bashing.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Italics for the slower
    of the audience Proof?

    Had you in mind, WOOF!

  • RoxanneAkimbo

    Women are totally pissed off and they’re not takin’ it any more!

  • http://www.fileitunder.com/ Hoodlumman

    Puzzle, why don’t you exercise your point finger and follow the links yourself. Dr. Helen has a link to the report.

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com/ Robert Perry

    The data came out this way; when police were required to make an arrest when a domestic violence call came in, they found that as often as not, the woman in the relationship was the perpetratrix. (even among homosexuals? j/k) It was one of those Clinton era “no tolerance” laws that prevented police from saying “nobody’s hurt, we’re going home.”

    The unexpected side result was that people learned that it ain’t always the Y chromosome that starts it. So it’s good data.

  • peter

    Hi rob I really do not think that you should play with words here, while it is true that any act of violence is a bad thing in most cases(cat’s dogs slap their disobident children and so did we Human’s once though if you were to do it nowdays you would be arrested. However when some one hit’s you it is an act of violence, let’s not mess around here with words “Oh” it’s a type of domestic violence, it’s alomost as if you are frightened of political correctness. I am so tired of seeing men becoming second class citezens are’nt you, let’s face it we still open doors for women, we still walk on the out side of the pavement so that we are more likely to get run over or splashed from the on comming car than a woman, when in a disarster it is still always “WOMEN” and children first out of the biulding to saftey. And when ever a man and a woman have an argument both Men and women take the side of the Woman, are’nt you just a little tired of being the under dog? Listern wake up a minute you can always go back to sleep later, did’nt women get liberated some time ago? Aren’t women driving our bus’e now? Working on our biulding sites driving our trains? Don’t you know that know days there are many women out there that have been trained by various Armys in the art of how to “KILL MEN” and to kill them in many different ways? We have women boxers and martial artist, we have women doormen and security officers, and are you not aware that IN PRISON THERE ARE MANY WOMEN MURDERS TOO? I am not trying in any way to belittle those genuine female victims of domestic violence but Men must be equel to women don’t you think not there under dogs, however these days it would seem that a man is exspected to sit back and take all and any abuse from a woman be it verbal or of violence and yet he is not allowed to retalliate back in the same manners of attack as that which he is being subjected to by a woman; so which part of that is equal rights? It is time that there was a male liberation, it’s time that “MEN” got out of this female yocke and stopped trying to be this pathetic new age sensative “manette” and look between his legs to see what he has there, hopefully he has’nt already cut it off. Stand up and be counted “MAN” are’nt you tired of seeing or hearing about how at the end of all male female relationships the Woman get’s to keep the car, the house, the money, and your kid and then they go and shack up with your best pal juat to spite you more I can tell you it’s not nice seeing your traitor of a best pal running around playing ball with your kid and your on visiting restrictions I know I have s? Don’t be a traitor “MAN” stand up and be counted stick by ypur brothers, Women” are all sticking by the “Women” what are we lesser BEINGS? I am not talking about apartide here just equality. Why I have so much to say about this matter tonight is because here in England a “Man involved in a domestic violence incident can be thrown out of his council house, though I do grant you that there are some very grosome cases of domestic violence perpartrated on Women by men we should not turn our eyes away from what is going on to Men in general just because she has got long legs or we will all become poupers. You should open up your eye’s brother because there are a lot of women out these days who are totaly about them selves, they are emersed in vainty and self centered(I have even heared Women say it) while it seem’e fashionable for most to be agrressive and so full of attitude, yeah remember seeing her walking around on your travels? Man if you did’nt then you have really been stunned. Listern do’nt you think this mating thing is costly enough as it is? It’s hard enough brother even just to talk to some dames and that will usualy cost you an arm and a leg too these days and i’m not talking about prostitues though one might wonder about that one some times because of how much it cost you to simply just take a woman out to get to know her it’s bankruptcy how come it don’t cost a Woman just as much to take a man out? Oh that’s it Women don’t take men out do they YET THEY TELL US THAT THEY LOVE US OH AINT THAT QUTE? But they doing the same jobs as we ta day an get equal pay now don’t they? And why is it that Men gotta get down on one knee and give this bloody expensive ring for anyway when you know they gonna be hocking it in just a few months down the road. Marrage these day’s for Women seems to be all about the pritty dress and the photos(vanity jane) and the reception and how many came was their wedding better than their neighbours weddding? Nothing about a lasting relationship and pledges made between the both of you and the God, in fact they even wish to change the wording of the christian marrage pledge. Man how many male secertarys have you seen,yet there so many men out of work now you know and they still got to pay the maintainece and all the rest of it yet after such a bust up life is suppossed to carry on, you supposed ta put it all down to life experiance and try go find another partner get back up ta life but.. it is even harder to try and find a new “FEMALE” partner when you are poor(Women don’t want pourpers Man) and they no longer need a handy Man because they now do that job(job themselves in all departments including the bedroom and I can tell you the things that the black strap on can do these days would put percy to shame) because you trained them to do it did’nt you in all departments. Ok I guess I know that im going on a bit things are happening fast around us and we have all got to slow some of this legislation down before it becomes law. Now my point is that many people have been involved in “FIGHTS” during the course of their lives, Men have fought with there best mates and though some people might not believe it because they think that Women are just things that play with Dolls it is so Women have fought with their best mates too, blood and hair to all; is it any suprice then that now and again Men and Women fight? It would seem the better the mates people become the bitter the fighting between them when it comes and while I believe that all conserned need to be protected from themselves at times I do not believe that this new bit of legislation that the united kingdom is about to embark upon is in the best intrest of Human Beings. For what we are talking about here after all is Human Emotions, now some people are nytho-maniacs, clapto maniacs, Alcoholics, drug addicts it’s all to do with “SKILL and EMOTIONAL CONTROL” now in life some people might be more skillfull than others some maybe better at controling things than others but it dosnt mean to say that a person who lacks control is a bad person, but this new bill of law that their trying to bring in penalises Humans Beings too harshly it’s too loose and yet final, for a cut or a bruse can and will heal up in a matter of weeks but the destruction of a persons life because of five minutes of lost emotion control is wrong and should not be so. For instance many men are out there dealing with violence every day such as soldiers, police persons, prison warders, and doormen; everybody today has more than likely seen an American film about the Vietnam war. Those who have will recall how hard it was for the veterans coming back from the war to adjust back to civilian life in fact some found that they could not reajust back at all and quite simply just blew their brains out. But what do we find today, we find that two studies found that at least 40% of Police officers familys experiance domestic violence (1-2) in contrast to a 10% of families in the general population. Officers found a rate of 24% (4) indicating that domestic violence is 2-4 times more common among police familys; and now if that survey were spread out a little bit further we might also see that the same would appear to be apparent in the familys of Prison wardens, soldiers and doormen, bodyguards, and other securitry personal, this then would also spread to other people in positions of control around violence or who just have a heavey load of stress to deal with, they maybe great people and fine at their jobs but it’s just that they do not know how to unwind quite so well and the people around them like their wives and parterners do not have the skills needed in order to help their Men unwind which is why there are so many explosions and so many people getting hurt because of them. And it is not just the Men this applys to either for many, many women are afficted with the same emotional complaint but all the punishment and hatred is being passed down upon the backs of MEN we are going to take the blame for all this and as a result with this new law coming in they are talking about following around for ever any man convicted of domestic violence. Further more what this intails I do not know if any of you are familiar with the term “SYNTHETIC TELEPATHY”(this information can be found on a google search,) well what it means is that your trackers will direct a radio beam into your inner ear and be shouting at and abusing you day and night 24-hours aday like an unruley drill sargent with a foul mouth in a very evil tone, they will issue you with very violent threats all of which could indeed happen, itm will be like you have got squatters in your head; both men and women will abuse you and you will have know were to hide and no one will believe you because they will say that they would not do such a thing and you can not prove it wand who is going to believe a person who say’s that he has voices in their heads? But I can tell you that many people who have already been subjected to this tortcher have acturly succeded in commiting suicide after hearing aggressive threatering voices of people “INSIDE THEIR HEADS” telling them that they are come around and braking into their houses that they are going to hold them down rip out their eye’s pour acid all over their faces and torcher them to death. In England only a few months ago now a group of vigilanties did just that to a piedophile and because he had to tell the Police where ever he was going to go to and this information was leacked out to the vigilanties because this man is nolonger alive and he died an horrific death. Once they make this legerslation become law then any Man who has been convicted of domestic violencer will have to inform the police where ever they go and the Police can inform their new employers and any new female parterners that they might be lucky enough to find. And having informed the police where ever they go they wil be subjected to these ultra sound attacks by the Police or their contracted bodys that they might employ to do the job for them; and on the back of these ultra sound waves they can piggy back subliminal hypnotic suggestions into their victims inner ear and their is nothing that the victim can do to block these suggestions(YOU CAN NOT PUT YOUR HANDS OVER YOUR EARS AS THEY ATTACK YOUR INNER EAR.) neither will the VICTIM KNOW that they are doing it or what is being done to them but at any time the victims controller might trigger their helpless convicted victim off, the convict under this program is rendered little more than a puppet or more like a zombie for they can import words and thoughts and images into the victims head to make their victims perform extreem strange behaviour trates,(this “EVIL” PROGRAM belonged to the U.S.MILITARY who developed it for the use of “SLEEPER- ASSASINS” HOWERVER THE MILITARY HAS NOW SOLD MANY COPYS OF THE SYSTEM TO MANY COUNTRYS AROUND THE WORLD.). In England of late we have heared a lot about people who have been arrested after killing a load of people and when asked why they turn around and say they heared voices telling them to do it, or others say God told me to do it. Thios is exactly how a U.S. Military Sleeper Assasin would act please try a google search and check it out for yourself “SYNTHETIC TELEPATHY”. A you will find a lot of the sights in fact most trying to claim that science has not yet fully advanced to the level where they can control the Human “MIND-AND -BODY” BUT IT IS A LIE THEY CAN CONTORL THE WHOLE OF YOU CENTRAL NERVUS SYSTEM, THEY CAN GIVE YOU HEART FAILER, GIVE YOU AN ERECTION PERHAPS EVEN MAKE YOU CUM TO OR GO TO THE TOILET IN YOUR PANTS, IT’S SERIOUS STUFF AND SO PLEASE LOBBY THIS LEGISLATION BEFORE IT GET TO BECOME LAW. The people behind this movement to make this legislation become law are a group of women who have been the victims of some of the most violent forms of domestic violence and thus have become right wing fanatical extremist some of them have become haters of men(which in some cases might be concidered to be quite understandable but it is not the kind of mind filled with hatred that should be making laws in a developed country that prides itself as being better than others because “IT DOES HAVE EMOTIONAL CONTROL WHEN IT MAKES IT LEGISLATION WHICH IS WHY IT CAN BEAR THE MEDAL UPON IT’S CHEST WHICH SAYS PRINTED UPON IT THE WORDS CIVILISED” and if this be not the case then you be no better than those that you now wish to punish in such an horrific way for their own MOMENT of LOSS of EMOTIONAL CONTROL. Be wise have some Widom and foster compassion my dear Brothers because any of you at any time could and might loose your own tempers some time in the future and be convicted of Domestic Violence and if you have done nothing to help your fellow “MAN” your fellow “BROTHERS” here and now and help them fight this new law with all your heart and with all your might then you to not too far off inn the near future might also be hearing voices in your heads too just take time a minute and think for a moment how unpleasant that might be it? The extra danger here is that these fanatical men haters are wholey backed by Lesbian feminest groups and even some Homosexual groups and they are surrounded by a moral standing of religious peoples who all mighht think what their doing is right but they might truely not know just what and how much is invovled. Some M.P’S who feel that they might become more popular if they back this action as it could advance their political careers and maybe also because they want to get the use of these(mind control weapons known as “Non Leathal Weapons” legalised which they hope will happen with the coming of this law which is one of the first of the laws that they hope to implament in order to bring about their dream of a “NEW WORLD ORDER” Which will start to come into effect around the year 2012, and anyone who is suspected might contest this “NEW WORLD ORDER” will be monitored with this equipment, with this equipment they not only can send a person bad hostle threaterning voices but they can also send pain and they can kill you too in many ways and most painfuly as well because they control the whole of your nervous system they can hurt you all over and you will not be able to get away from them but will be begging to die also make you tell them anything they wish to know because of that therefore beware of this law my Brothers for it is an evil thing; oh and as for Women I love every bit of them except of course their uptight tempers and even the Man haters if they knew would’nt agree to this new Law if they truely understood the wider meaning of it. Well anyway sorry I gone on a bit but I did think that is was relavant, I am even more sorry about my totaly awful spelling please do not laugh too long about it ; I am most deeply sorry but I did’nt recieve my fair share of education in afraid shame perhaps I could have been more interesting. However I do hope that you might find this all of some interest and do your best to speak out against it so that it dosnt get through. Thank you for taking the time to read this maybe I shall be hearing from you and we can talk more?

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    If my wife was prone to violence (she’s not) I sure as heck would carry a mini tape recorder to protect myself.

    Gee! I’d have thought : Kevlar, knives, firearms, pepper spray, kubotan…
    You must really wield a mean tape recorder!

  • Steve L.

    The only time I have ever been in that type of situation, the woman was the aggressor. A girlfriend was mad at me and came to my house. When I opened the door, the came through swinging, trying to hit me. I managed to grab her by the wrists and pin her against the wall. While I was controlling her thusly, I got a little too close and she bit me on the arm (it left a nice circle of teeth marks.) With that, she calmed right down. Once she had inflicted some form of physical damage on me, she was fine.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Puzzled I added the link almost right after the original post.

    Sorry about that.

    Non reciprocal would be where one partner commits violence. Reciprocal would be where they both are involved, and domestic violence would include both types.

    Women are totally pissed off and they’re not takin’ it any more!

    I think it’s more in a lack of reasonable expectations.

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com/ Robert Perry

    Two quick questions for Julia Campbell:

    1. How do we differentiate between domestic violence and intimate partner violence? Keep in mind that domestic violence is not defined as violence that occurs in the home, as the word would indicate, but rather any violence between people who are romantically involved. Hence, differentiating between “domestic violence” and “intimate partner violence” is problematic at best.

    2. What is your source?

    The reality here is that in terms of initiating violence of any sort, men and women are fairly equal; the difference is that for obvious reasons, that initiated by men can tend to be somewhat more drastic.

  • Puzzlefeet

    Can you cite where the report is from and post a link. Also, the finding in the quote says “nonreciprocal partner violence.” Then you write that: “women are more than 2 to 1 more likely to commit domestic violence and the men were more likely to be injured.”

    So my question is: Is “nonreciprocal partner violence” the same as domestice violence in general?

  • WETBACK

    I’ve seen a few of these violent women with a mouth you would not believe. You really got to enjoy fighting allot to get with one of them. Not only do you have to defend yourself against this crazy chick but the 15 burly guys she decided to throw a bottle at and curse as well.

    It’s very rare that I’ve seen a woman with a mouth that would shock you, and enough anger to throw crap at someone. But it’s got to be one of the most funniest things I’ve ever seen. I kind of felt bad for their poor boyfriends, but hell they made their bed.

  • Puzzlefeet

    I cringed at your example Rob, when you started with your wife hitting you (an example). I think it is wrong for anyone to hit another adult whether man or woman and both should be prosecuted. Men should not be treated differently than women in this area ever.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/Anna/ Anna

    docdave… are you insinuating my personal opinion doesn’t account for proof of statistics? :roll:

  • http://www.transitionsfvs.org/ Julia Campbell

    Men do get battered and abused, but intimate partner violence is primarily a crime against women.
     In 2001, women accounted for 85 percent of the victims of intimate partner violence (588,490 total) and men accounted for approximately 15 percent of the victims (103,220 total)’
     While women are less likely than men to be victims of violent crimes overall, women are five to eight times more likely than men to be victimized by an intimate partner
     In 2001, intimate partner violence made up 20 percent of violent crime against women. The same year, intimate partners committed three percent of all violent crime against men
     As many as 324,000 women each year experience intimate partner violence during their pregnancy
     Male violence aganst women does much more damage than female violence against men; women are much more likely to be injured than men.
     Women are seven to 14 times more likely than men to report suffering severe physical assaults from an intimate partner. On average, more than three women are murdered by their husbands or boyfriends in this country every day. In 2000, 1,247 women were killed by an intimate partner. The same year, 440 men were killed by an intimate partner
     Women are much more likely than men to be killed by an intimate partner. In 2000, intimate partner homicides accounted for 33.5 percent of the murders of women and less than four percent of the murders of men.17
     Pregnant and recently pregnant women are more likely to be victims of homicide than to die of any other cause, and evidence exists that a significant proportion of all female homicide victims are killed by their intimate partners.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/Anna/ Anna

    Actually robert108 I think it’s safe to believe that in most cases who ever is at fault will accuse the other at being at fault even though the other person being accused isn’t at fault and the accuser is really at fault but there are time I am sure that the accused is actually at fault but the accused will deny being at fault. I am sure you agree on that right?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    This is old news. We men know that women are vicious and that it’s way underreported. Guys aren’t in the habit of admitting that some woman is kicking their ass. They’ll keep their mouths shut.

  • robert108

    I am sure you agree on that right?

    Do I agree that all things are possible? Of course, but what’s your point?
    I mentioned the fatality statistics because they avoid the usual squishiness.

  • docdave

    perhaps because the guy IS wrong 99.9% of the time, it’s hard not to see him wrong in most all that he does?

    You do have backup proof for that assertion, Anna, don’t you?

  • docdave

    docdave… are you insinuating my personal opinion doesn’t account for proof of statistics?

    Sorry, Anna, lost my head for a moment. It’s been over 20 years since I was last married and I forgot that the woman is always right.

  • robert108

    Men do get battered and abused, but intimate partner violence is primarily a crime against women.

    Not only is this factually inaccurate, but the truth is that in fatal domestic violence, the ration is about 50/50 male-female. Of course, according to the man haters, it’s always the man’s fault. They just want to avoid responsibility, which is typical of the left.

  • WOOFX

    Rob
    When you get hit by one of these
    Deere it lasts

    When you hit a deer

    or a Deere

    it doesn’t run so well

  • WOOFX

    How’s this for reciprocity?

    Nothing lasts like a Deere.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    So my question is: Is “nonreciprocal partner violence” the same as domestice violence in general?

    It means unilateral violence from one partner. Reciprocal violence would be one partner hits the other, and the other hits back. Non-reciprocal is just one beating on the other.

    It’s a type of domestic violence.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    That’s “Nothing runs like a Deere.”

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    There’s some lingering social biases here too. If I told you all that my wife had slapped me across the face the other night most of you would ask “What’d you do to deserve that?” But if I told you I’d slapped my wife in the face, I’m sure you’d all be denouncing me.

    And I’m the same way. I guess I wouldn’t think much of someone’s wife hitting them, but I’d come down pretty hard on a guy hitting his wife. Not sure if that’s rational or not, but that’s the way I feel.

    Really, though, nobody should be hitting anybody. And zero tolerance laws always suck.

  • WOOFX

    Italics for the slower
    of the audience Proof?

  • Kiss My Ass

    Only a wife-beater would post such a ignorant-sounding article. I'm sure you like to throw this "study" in your wife's face while you're kicking her ass and telling her what a stupid whore she is. I've been raped by no less than SEVEN different men and I've been physically abused by four men.

    One time, I slapped my boyfriend. He had been screaming in my ear and violently shaking me by my hair for about 20 minutes. He finally stopped, then he told me to leave. As I was leaving, he ran up behind me and shoved me down the stairs that led out of his apartment. Then he dragged me back in, threw me on the sofa chair, and was about to start shaking me again. That was when I slapped him, hoping it would snap him out of his rage. Of course, the abuse only escalated at that point and I never slapped another man again. I learned my lesson. Men are bigger and meaner than me and will kick my fucking ass. It doesn't matter whether I hit them or not. They'll still kick my ass. Jerk off to that, asshole. I know you want to. Men are assholes. They'll do anything to maintain the control they have over women and children.

  • sizzel

    It offends me when women pinpoint the domestic violence thing of relationships on men….Women are just as domestically violent as men and if I was domestically violent towards the love of my life, I'm sorry from the bottom of my heart and had no realization of that and no one is perfect, so keep that in mind and deal with it! :)

  • Hoch

    i think it’s a horrible act for a man or female to engage in domestic violelnce there’s no excuse for it, when u love someone u should respect them enough to keep your hands from hurting them. women are always have something to say about men hitting women, and yes it is very wrong it’s also wrong for a woman to hit a man, if a woman hits a man everyone thinks it’s funny and no one takes it serious until something goes wrong for the woman, i think women like that needs serious help and don’t need to be in any relationship until they can get their attitude together

  • Gretchen Elizabeth

    This is seriously a load of shit. You should check your facts.

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