H,

If you came back with 20 of the same business cards what would have happened..? Or 3 appointments with the same individual..?

Oh, and yes they do get compensated for the amount of signatures.

atease

And sometimes we would go back a few weeks later to collect that same card because it was on the front desk.

Nobody got called on it and/or fired? Sounds like you worked for a poorly managed company. Does that company still exist?

I have a question and I’d seriously like an answer.

I realize that your masters have declared ACORN the Agents of Goldstein du jour, but when did you first hear about them?

Just wonderin’ is all.

If you came back with 20 of the same business cards what would have happened..? Or 3 appointments with the same individual..?

It’s not that I would come back with 20 of the same cards. But my office had at least 20 guygs doing the same thing. And many of us came back with the same cards. And sometimes we would go back a few weeks later to collect that same card because it was on the front desk.

Sometimes you take short cuts. I can imagine Acorn doing the same thing.

H,
If you want to learn the proper use of reason and logic as it applies to debate, don’t bug me about it, get your ass back into school. Start with Critical Thinking 101.

Thanks for…sharing, though…

I’m sure this will ruffle some feathers but who cares?. Why not in the areas that the voter registration pool is being investigated for contamination by questionable orgs like ACORN just revert back to the 2006 list of registered voters except for those individuals who registered through state validated agencies?

That shows what you know. It wasn’t the activity of the sales people that was the problem. It was the ineffective approach to the marketplace that was the problem.

Actually, han, what you said clears management and places the onus on sales. I asked Nobody got called on it and/or fired? Sounds like you worked for a poorly managed company. Does that company still exist? Isn’t sales responsible for training their sales professionals, not management? Or is it the consumers fault for not being receptive to the product your sales team is selling?

Unfortunately I would have to agree with Han. If their incentive was to get as many sigs as possible to get paid, I could see this happening. All the more incentive for government to shut down an organization that implements this system for registration. It just begs corruption.
Right Han?

If you want to learn the proper use of reason and logic as it applies to debate, don’t bug me about it,

So speaketh the guy who had to plagiarize Wikipedia to make an argument. Yeah, don’t think I didn’t notice.

And further, the entire story is anecdotal you genius. You can debate anecdotal evidence with anecdotal evidence.

You are not that bright dude.

In this case, fraud hasn’t been proven, only feared and suggested.

If you walk into a 7-11 and find the cash register drawer missing and the clerk on the floor with a bullet hole in his head, it is a pretty safe assumption that there has been an armed robbery… although that hasn’t been “proven” either.

ACORN and Obama’s “progressive” defenders would have us believe that these are merely isolated incidents to be explained away as greed, stupidity or over-exuberance. But we are now up to a dozen different states, and this is not the first election in which these voter registration anomalies have come to light.

Given the Obama campaign’s illicit $832,000 payments and the attempt by congressional Democrats to slip tens of millions of taxpayer dollars to ACORN in the recent bailout bill, it would take the willing suspension of disbelief, to coin a phrase, not to recognize this as a nationwide attempt to subvert our electoral system in favor of radical Left candidates… such as Barack Obama.

The ONLY appropriate solution is a RICO investigation and prosecution. If it was good enough for the Gambino family, its good enough for ACORN.

Spartacus,

In the case of ACORN, didn’t Barack Obama train their people?

Bat, no indication as of yet that HE trained them, but it is a question worth looking into.

^ actually, I’d be more willing to believe that the O-man learned from the likes of ACORN

there is no crime in registering to vote 72 times, from the same address. It will only count once

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Cleveland -Ohio:

“Barkley is one of at least three people who have been subpoenaed by the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections as part of a wider inquiry into possible voter fraud by ACORN. A third subpoenaed voter, Freddie Johnson, 19, filled out registration cards 72 times over 18 months, officials said.”

The major risk of fraud growing out of mass canvassing like this involves the possibility of ineligible voters filing absentee ballots, and thus avoiding checks at polling places.

Registering 72 people at the “same” address is illegal and is one of the many accusations against ACORN.

As I said. There is nothing illegal with asking a guy to register to vote, over and over and over and over. Unless he registers fraudulently in an instance.

Actually, knowingly submitting multiple applications for a person is considered fradulant and IS therefore illegal. The rules are essentially the same for voter registration, signing petitions, and other similar activities. You are not allowed to knowingly sign up more than once, or knowingly sign someone else up more than once. There’s a reason they ask “are you registered to vote?” If the answer is yes, they are to back up. Doing otherwize is fradulant.

Google for “Cloward-Piven Strategy” and you will understand that ACORN is NOT engaged in traditional ballot-box stuffing. They know many, even most, of their bogus registrations will be thrown out. They even know they will be raided, investigated, indicted, jailed, etc. They don’t care about all that.

What ACORN and their allies are about is CLOGGING THE SYSTEM. NOT making elections more “democratic,” but making elections suspect and eventually impossible.

Giving mortgages to poor or otherwise unqualified people was NOT about improving the lives of poor people. It was always about destroying the banking system.

Tax increases are NOT about balancing the budget, but ruining the economy.

Someone has said that a Democrat/Marxist first breaks your legs, then offers you a “free” wheelchair.

Obama’s agenda is BREAKING everything he can get his hands on, and then taking it over because it has “failed.”

But my office had at least 20 guygs doing the same thing. And many of us came back with the same cards.
Hannitized

The use of anecdotal evidence is a logical fallacy and is sometimes informally referred to as the “person who” fallacy (“I know a person who. …) It shouldn’t be used to try to prove a point in a debate.

But, thanks for sharing….

Some of you can’t see the forrest through the trees.

Han, if it had been an organization tied to McCain would you feel the same way?

To a degree I think you have a point mplsbob. I can’t speculate that the intention of ACORN is to destroy the democratic process, because I have no evidence.

But I do agree that there is potential for people to cheat the system, if the system is set up where there is no punishment for cheating, only rewards.

As I said. There is nothing illegal with asking a guy to register to vote, over and over and over and over. Unless he registers fraudulently in an instance.

Isn’t sales responsible for training their sales professionals, not management?

Spartacus,

In the case of ACORN, didn’t Barack Obama train their people?