Miss USA Pageant Officials Trying To Strip Miss California Of Her Title

I’ve thought the whole controversy over Carrie Prejean is a little stupid. On one hand, why are the gay rights people flipping out over one woman stating respectfully her personal feelings about marriage? Seems to me that the thuggish behavior of gay activists and celebrities like Perez Hilton in response are doing a lot more harm to their cause than to Prejean and the cause of people who feel as she does on the issue.
On the other hand, social conservatives lifting this girl onto a pedestal over the matter seems a little absurd too.
The latest development is a movement by some to try to strip Miss California of her title for exercising her free speech and not disclosing that she’d once posed in her underwear.

BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. (AP) – Officials of the Miss California USA pageant have strongly criticized titleholder Carrie Prejean (pray-ZHAN’) but say it’s not their decision whether she should be stripped of her crown.
Co-executive directors Keith Lewis and Shanna Moakler told a Beverly Hills press conference Monday that only Miss USA pageant owner Donald Trump can make that decision. …
The state pageant has been investigating whether she violated her contract by making public appearances with groups opposed to same-sex marriage. Prejean also failed to reveal that she once posed in her underwear.

All the other issues aside, am I the only one a little shocked at the hypocrisy of pageant officials who hold events where women walk across stage in bikinis getting upset about one of the participants posing in her underwear?
This is Prejean, on-stage at the pageant:

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This is the photo of Prejean that has pageant officials so worked up (a second one has been released and is currently being reported on breathlessly by the Huffington Post, if you care):
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What’s the big deal?
Frankly, I find the whole notion of beauty pageants to be a little absurd. It’s like livestock judging, only with questions and a swimsuit competition.

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  • http://Array carrick

    Carrie Prejean needs to go. I volunteer to strip Miss California myself. Gay marriage will not be discussed.

    Video at 11.

  • Hawk

    This isn’t a free speech issue because the government has not limited anybody’s speech. It is a contractual work issue.

    BTW, as a model, best thing that ever happened to her. She will get far more work because of this.

  • Hannitized

    The latest development is a movement by some to try to strip Miss California of her title for exercising her free speech and not disclosing that she’d once posed in her underwear.

    Her free speech is limited when speaking in public, as a public figure. As Miss California, that is the contract she signed and is obligated to.

    You are making this a free speech issue, when it is not.

    Further, she was no in her underwear, she was in her panties only. The Miss California pageant doesn’t do that.

    Her photos aren’t that offensive. But her lies are.

  • http://kingdomofidiots.blogspot.com/ Paul L.

    Hannitized/Headward
    Double Standard: Why Doesn’t Anyone Care About Miss RI’s Topless Photos?
    BTW being a public figure does not limit her free speech.
    Progressives may believe that argument based on how they reacted when Joe the Plumber dared to question B.H. Obama.

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    Kenny is tooo dumb:

    Btw, I HAVE posted the standards to which the various Miss (States) are held, which contradicts you.

    You are wrong.

    As always.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    The word “hypocrite” is still to be found under the letter “H”.

    Along with “Heh” and “hoist” as in, on one’s own petard! Heh.

  • Hannitized

    Btw, I HAVE posted the standards to which the various Miss (States) are held, which contradicts you.

    You are wrong.

    Tell that to the Miss California Directors, who say you are wrong. I just go by the fact of the pageant Miss California goes by.

    They spoke this morning on her two violations. How can you argue that?

  • Hannitized

    Seriously, if she broke the rules the official should be able to do what they feel is right. If she didn’t break any pageant rules then leave her the hell alone.

    She broke the rules, lied and failed to respond to requests by the Miss California Directors by hiding out with the NOM people who were encouraging her to violate her contract obligations.

  • Hannitized

    Oh, and by the way. Kenny got owned.

  • sayanything-2407

    At a press conference addressing Carrie Prejean’s disputed title in the Miss USA competition, pageant owner Donald Trump compared Prejean’s stated views on gay marriage to Obama’s.

    “It’s the same answer that the president of the United States gave,” Trump said. “She gave an honorable answer. She gave an answer from her heart.”

    In her own remarks moments later, Prejean echoed Trump’s statement, telling reporters: “The president of the United States, the secretary of state, and many Americans agree with me in this belief.”

    In the final round of the Miss USA pageant, Prejean told judge Perez Hilton: “I think in my country, in my family, I think that I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman. No offense to anybody out there, but that’s how I was raised.”

    Link

    By the way, she will KEEP the crown.

    NEW YORK (AP) – Miss California USA can retain her crown even though she failed to reveal she had posed in her underwear as a teenager, pageant owner Donald Trump said Tuesday.

    Carrie Prejean appeared by Trump’s side as he made the announcement at New York’s Trump Tower.

    ….

    “We are in the 21st century. We have determined the pictures taken are fine,” he said, adding that “in some cases the pictures were lovely.”

    After Trump spoke, the 21-year-old Prejean, who was accompanied by her parents, took her turn at the lectern, defending herself against what she described as vicious attacks.

    She talked about getting thousands of letters and e-mails from people supporting her and said, about the marriage question, that Hilton had asked her a “politically charged question with a hidden personal agenda.”

    “I stated my honest belief,” she said.

    Hilton, whose real name is Mario Lavandeira, is best known as a celebrity blogger but has also branched off into gay rights advocacy.

    Link

    It is done, the decision made.

    Now, the question is, will the witch hunt continue?

    Start contrasting her views and Obama’s and watch how fast this dies.

  • patricia

    There is no reason to strip her of the crown just because her point of view is unpopular with some in the media. In fact the majority of us agree with her that marriage is only between a Man and a Woman, there states have passed that decision and only for errant have different opinion. We should boycott those four.

  • robert108

    I hope they strip her of her crown. She’s a lying, pompous opportunist who fits right in to the conservative mold.

    Translation: She used her free speech rights to support real marriage, and should be silenced for doing that. More hateful and mean-spirited leftie squealing.

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    I don’t care what anyone says about Miss Cali I love her I think she is great and I like her views.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    By some strange twist of fate, Carrie Prejean was this last week’s Friday Night Babe!

  • Hannitized

    She was a Playmate 6 years after winning the crown, and was under no obligation.

    She never criticized Prejean for the photos, only lying about them.

  • sayanything-2407

    Personally, I think this is nothing but a witch hunt.

    This was not brought up as a way to try and strip her crown until after the whole ‘controversy’ of her speaking what she thought marriage should be between a man and a woman.

    Witch Hunt

  • andophiroxia

    Hannatized, you make a fool of yourself here regularly, but this one takes the cake. So your brilliant position is that when asked a question, her best approach would be to – lie ?

    That is too amusing when they mock her morality when she told the truth about her beliefs, but then they want her to lie.

    How twisted.

  • Headward

    I think that she should be stripped of the title if she violated her contract, not because what she stated about marriage. But make sure that standard is in place for all the contestants because I’m guessing some of did some modeling that they did not disclose.

  • ollie-B

    I hope they strip her of her crown. She’s a lying, pompous opportunist who fits right in to the conservative mold.

  • Hannitized

    Note that in no way are they making a moral statement about her POV. She was the one who made the moral statement, they’ve not rebutted it

    Thats because this is not a free speech issue. She has the right to her opinion, and nobody denies that.

    It is her lying that she took the photos when she was 17. It is her contract violation of becoming a spokesperson for NOM. It is her half nude pictures that she did not admit to taking and pretending to be a Christian that is the issue.

    Don’t you guys get it?

  • Bat One

    Re-reading this entire discussion, I am simply amazed to learn just how much importance those on the “progressive” Left, such as Hannitized, place on the inviolability of contracts. Truly amazed.

    Of course it wasn’t always so. In fact, just a few short months ago, he was leading the chorus of indignant harridans up in arms over the AIG retention contracts and the “bonus” payments that company had obligated itself to pay to those specific individuals who were in fact working themselves out of a job by trying to unwind the CDS trades on the company’s books.

    There was this,

    I don’t think ($)300-600 is unreasonable.
    In fact I think anything above ($)350k is too much.

    And this,

    NOBODY at AIG should be making millions of dollars this year, or next when they are only in business because of the US Taxpayer.

    And this,

    The Obama administration is doing exactly the right thing by making this a public embarrassment that prevents the bonuses going out in the degree they are…

    And finally this rich defense of contract inviolability,

    People receiving a 1 million dollar “retention” bonus, is still a bonus. It is still an undeserved amount of money.

    To be sure, there were plenty of people making assorted arguments against those AIG retention bonuses back a couple months ago. But no one else who argued against honoring those contracts is now trying to have it both ways by arguing that the wrath of God and the entire free world ought to fall down upon Miss California, and that the public indignation being disingenuously stirred up by the Left against her has nothing to do with her stand against gay marriage and everything to with the violation of the terms of her contract.

    Indeed, H’s defense of the sanctity of contracts in this specific case is nothing more than rank, political opportunism, and has nothing whatsoever to do with any principles, or respect for contractual agreements. It is the expediency of the Left writ large.

    The word “hypocrite” is still to be found under the letter “H”.

  • HG

    What the hell kind of question was that for a beauty contest in the first place… “do you support gay marriage”?

    Ridiculous.

  • deadrody

    You have GOT to be kidding me

    If she had just said it is a states right to determine, she would not be in this mess.

    Hannatized, you make a fool of yourself here regularly, but this one takes the cake. So your brilliant position is that when asked a question, her best approach would be to – lie ?

    What is so god awful about the girl telling the truth. That is her opinion and she should not have to carefully consider her answer. You are ridiculous.

  • Hannitized

    She;s still in power. Huh. Your evidence fails.

    It’s the Donald’s call. He likes controversy, he might give her a pass. He probably would appreciate her standing up for what she believes, but will give her a slight penalty for violating her terms and he will smack down NOM for pushing her to violate her contract.

    She didn’t pose topless. She said she didn’t pose topless. The lie is…where?

    They are supposed to inform the pageant if they took semi-nude photos. She didn’t, she lied about taking them. Then she lied about her age when she took them. Then she continue to lie about them afterwards.

  • http://verizonwireless.com/ ND in MD

    I hope the Officials of the Miss California USA pageant take a hard look at themselves too. Why was the flaming butt-f**ker Perez Hilton allowed to be a judge and why was he allowed to ask such a politically sensitive question in this venue? Why didn’t the pageant board review and approve of his questions before hand? If Ms. Prejean can be censored, why can’t Perez? Besides, based on the results of last November’s gay marriage vote in CA, her response reflects the majority view of those who voted.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    Well, it’s already been pointed out that the reason Leftards are calling for blood are not the reasons they are giving.

    Her big sin was simply, and rather meekly, reasserting a Christian belief that marriage was between one man and one woman.

    The homos are beside themselves in a whites-of-their-eyes hissy fit.

    I’m actually kinda glad this is still out there. Their vitriol is hitting a whole new demographic who might otherwise be on their side, or at least ambivalent about opposing so-called Gay Marriage.

    Hilton Perez’s homo hate is out there for the world to see, front and center.

    This is going to do for the homo movement what the Si se pueda marches did for Amnesty for Illegals.

    Keep it up you bung-holing putzes — you are your own worst enemies.

  • 2keyboards

    Why are all the liberals and gay rights activists saying that it’s up to the states to define the “right of marriage”, and yet are fighting so very hard to overturn the vote of California? Obviously, if Miss California had answered that the right belongs to the states she would have been lying. Those that want gay marriage are the only ones capable of making that choice, no? At least, that’s what they want you to believe from all their protests in California.

    And, as precedents for losing your crown:http://tinyurl.com/o37ksu

  • http://www.fileitunder.com/ Hoodlumman

    ollie-B, Perez Hilton is NOT a conservative. Stop spinning.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/america_is_back/#c397018 Dino2

    I just watched O’Reilly berate two women for not rushing to Miss Cali’s defense over free speech. Both women just laughed at old BIlly while he huffed and puffed like a wounded buffalo. Seriously, they were laughiing at him. He’s trying to shame them with some bizarre idea that the delicate young flower needs to be rescued and that liberals should all be up in arms over something so trivial.

    It was a pathetic attempt at creating a situation which is about all O’Reilly and conservatives are capable of these days- feigned outrage.

    “We’re OUTRAGED over government spending and taxes!”

    “We’re OUTRAGED over flying a plane too low over New York!”

    “We’re OUTRAGED over the bailouts!”

    “We’re OUTRAGED over the treatment of Miss California!”

    “We’re OUTRAGED over Obama’s socialism!”

    “We’re OUTRAGED over yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada……………………..”

  • deadrody

    And while she is there representing California, the point of the Q&A is not to answer the questions according to how her home state feels – despite the fact that the majority agree with her – but to give HER HONEST ANSWER.

    You are unbelievably dishonest or stupid, your choice.

  • Hannitized

    If she did not report the photos, then she is in violation as well, but at least she is not lashing out at others like Miss California is doing with NOM.

    I have already stated it’s not the photos i take issue with. Its the lying, violation of contract obligations and moral hypocrisy.

  • robert108

    I don’t think someone who is successful in her chosen field is an “opportunist”, Rob. By that standard, ever successful person is an “opportunist”.

  • Hannitized

    Kenny is tooo dumb:

    You keep saying it but providing no evidence to back it up.

    These are the responsibilities of Miss Minnesota, which are directly taken from the Miss America guidelines.

    And seeing that the runner up is only (to my knowledge) obligated to become Miss America (and fulfill her obligations) if Miss America cannot do it anymore.

    Watch the news boy. She is in trouble for violating her contract terms by not reporting the photos prior to her competition. If she had, she would not be in this mess, except for her other violation of speaking for NOM without their permission.

    You really are a dim bulb Kenny.

    It wasn’t a lie. Unless the breasts are shown, it is not considered topless. As Paul pointed out, Miss RI isn’t under fire for IDENTICAL pictures. Because it’s not against the rules. Because it’s not a topless picture by any STRETCH of the imagination.

    She lied when she said she was 17 when she took the photos, and she lied when she failed to report them, by hiding them.

    If she had reported them, the photos themselves probably would not be a problem. It was lying about them, and hiding them and going to NOM that was the problem.

    No one says it’s a contract problem…but it’s a constract problem. O.o?

    You are too stupid for words.

    The photos dont violate the contract, more than likely. But not reporting them or admitting to them does. That is what the pageant is saying.

    So, in other words, if she had just shut up like a good little woman, she wouldn’t have had vicious little jackoffs like Perez Hilton trying to dig up dirt on her. You must be dizzy from all these 180s and spinning.

    I am saying if she answered that its the sates right to decide, and that is not a lie, it’s the truth, she would have won and would not have been in this controversy.

    I admit she had the right to answer her opinion, but what hurt her was defending it by going to NOM. She should have just said her opinion, then shut up and fulfilled her obligations and lost gracefully.

  • docdave

    It’s a sure thing that if she had come out for gay marriage all the lefties here would be praising her. There hate for things that are morally traditional are so transparent.

  • Neiman

    1. The question should never have been asked, but a wholly indecent flaming queer craving to be noticed didn’t care about how inappropriate it was.

    2. This epsiode demonstrates how intolerant those on the Left (Feminazis) and Homosexuals are and how they are willing to deny free speech and destroy people to get their way, like every other terrorist and cheap thug in the world.

    3. If they strip Miss California of her title it is wholly based on extreme left wing political correctness.

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    Watch the news boy. She is in trouble for violating her contract terms by not reporting the photos prior to her competition. If she had, she would not be in this mess, except for her other violation of speaking for NOM without their permission.

    She;s still in power. Huh. Your evidence fails.

    She lied when she said she was 17 when she took the photos, and she lied when she failed to report them, by hiding them.
    If she had reported them, the photos themselves probably would not be a problem. It was lying about them, and hiding them and going to NOM that was the problem.

    She didn’t pose topless. She said she didn’t pose topless. The lie is…where?

    Fail two.

    I am saying if she answered that its the sates right to decide, and that is not a lie, it’s the truth, she would have won and would not have been in this controversy.
    I admit she had the right to answer her opinion, but what hurt her was defending it by going to NOM. She should have just said her opinion, then shut up and fulfilled her obligations and lost gracefully.

    Cause that makes everything else ok.

    Fail three.

    Strike out 7.

  • bill-tb

    Rob, I agree it’s all a bunch of crap. If it weren’t for the bathing suits, I doubt anyone would watch.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    That is too amusing when they mock her morality when she told the truth about her beliefs, but then they want her to lie.

    Ando,

    Exactly that.

    But more importantly, what you are seeing is the real face of Homosexual Rights. What it means in practice is the total suppression of traditional moral and religious values.

    It’s not just Carrie Anne they are going after. She is being made an example of. If they can show to others how she is given a figurative public execution for stepping out of line, it will intimidate all but the very most brazen.

    This is about punishment and intimidation.

    Nothing less.

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    It’s a sure thing that if she had come out for gay marriage all the lefties here would be praising her. There hate for things that are morally traditional are so transparent.

    Hannitized openly admits it.

    If she had just said it is a states right to determine, she would not be in this mess.
    If she did not go to be a spokesperson for NOM, she would not be in this mess.
    Personal responsibility. Deal with it.

    It’s not inconsistant with his later shrugging off of the fact that another contestant had done the same thing, and that no one was going after her:

    If she did not report the photos, then she is in violation as well, but at least she is not lashing out at others like Miss California is doing with NOM.
    I have already stated it’s not the photos i take issue with. Its the lying, violation of contract obligations and moral hypocrisy.

    Of course, the issue is different. Nobody is calling Miss RI a stupid bitch, impugning her character, or trying to drag up old photos to call her a whore and mock her religion. So it would be beyond bizarre for her to “lash out” at anyone. She didn’t get a question about gay marriage, and so we don’t even know how she feels about it. But he flat out admits, it’s not about the photos, but the stance. Miss RI isn’t his opponent, so he feels no need to lie about her, smear her, or defend those who are doing so.

    It doesn’t even matter that believing marriage is between a man and a woman has no bearings on one’s stand on modeling a pair of panties. It MUST be hypocracy….even if he can’t explain how.

    It has nothing to do with any sort of moral bearing, or principled standing. It’s about destroying the political opposition, by any means neccessary. There are no rules to destroying the opposition. One liberal destracts the ref, the other hits Prejean with a chair, then both act outraged when Prejean fans call foul.

  • Hawk

    Co-executive directors Keith Lewis and Shanna Moakler told a Beverly Hills press conference Monday that only Miss USA pageant owner Donald Trump can make that decision.

    Shanna Moakler was a playboy playmate. How is that for hypocrisy?

  • welder4

    The question should not have been ask it puts her on the defense and it is a political question and no one else had a hot button issue ask of them . as far as the showing skin I think she does have a double standard but not one that should strip her of her crown , being a Christian one would not reveal them selves like that in public that is for a husbands eyes only . I hope she is truly a Christian but if so she needs to work on her modesty . the whole deal is to show skin any way it is not about intelligence at all. The pageant should cease to exist if it is under the guise of modesty.

  • Hannitized

    Of course, if Miss California had said she supported gay marriage these self-same hypocrites would be falling all over themselves to make her the next American Idol winner,

    If she had just said it is a states right to determine, she would not be in this mess.

    If she did not go to be a spokesperson for NOM, she would not be in this mess.

    Personal responsibility. Deal with it.

  • Flickertail

    Ollie I think the same about Pelosi, she fits right into the liberal mode.

  • Hannitized

    I volunteer to strip Miss California myself.

    Is that one of those, “gone too far” jokes we have been discussing?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/Anna/ Anna

    Well gosh, as long as we include her beautiful body image every time then I think it’s worth countless posts … again and again and again ;-)

    Seriously, if she broke the rules the official should be able to do what they feel is right. If she didn’t break any pageant rules then leave her the hell alone.

  • Bodhi

    She broke the rules, lied and failed to respond to requests by the Miss California Directors by hiding out with the NOM people who were encouraging her to violate her contract obligations.

    So were you upset with Clinton lying under oath regarding his affair with Monica Lewinsky?

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    She has contractual obligations she agreed to that limit her public speaking with organizations such as NOM.
    She violated her terms of contract. Just as I told you before, when you screwed it up by getting it wrong.

    You keep saying it but providing no evidence to back it up.

    These are the responsibilities of Miss Minnesota, which are directly taken from the Miss America guidelines.

    And seeing that the runner up is only (to my knowledge) obligated to become Miss America (and fulfill her obligations) if Miss America cannot do it anymore.

    Furthermore, no one from the contest is providing any justification other than the pictures.

    Nobody has a problem with the photos from a contractual context. She never reported the photos and that was also a lie and contract violation, just like I told you earlier, and just like you screwed up by not understanding earlier.

    It wasn’t a lie. Unless the breasts are shown, it is not considered topless. As Paul pointed out, Miss RI isn’t under fire for IDENTICAL pictures. Because it’s not against the rules. Because it’s not a topless picture by any STRETCH of the imagination.

    Oh, and this doesn’t make sense btw:

    Nobody has a problem with the photos from a contractual context. She never reported the photos and that was also a lie and contract violation,

    No one says it’s a contract problem…but it’s a constract problem. O.o?

    She is supposed to represent all of California, NOM does not.

    Yes, NOM DOES. All of California (see the majority) voted to ban gay marriage. Ipso facto, NOM represents California. Or, in shorter, easier words, you’re full of shit.

    Thats because this is not a free speech issue. She has the right to her opinion, and nobody denies that.

    Yet you admit it IS a free speech issue:

    If she had just said it is a states right to determine, she would not be in this mess.
    If she did not go to be a spokesperson for NOM, she would not be in this mess.
    Personal responsibility. Deal with it.

    So, in other words, if she had just shut up like a good little woman, she wouldn’t have had vicious little jackoffs like Perez Hilton trying to dig up dirt on her. You must be dizzy from all these 180s and spinning.

    Oh, and by the way. Kenny got owned.

    We’ll add “owned” to the words Hannitized doesn’t understand.

  • andophiroxia

    Bat One:

    Of course, if Miss California had said she supported gay marriage these self-same hypocrites would be falling all over themselves…

    I have a feeling they hate her because she broke the illusion that that California is a solid liberal bastion. They are fearful that not everyone in California is as left as they are and this is the reality of the situation.

  • Bat One

    The paradox of having those on the Left going into orgasmic fits of outrage over “standards of behavior” or broken rules or contract violations is almost too funny.

    Of course, if Miss California had said she supported gay marriage these self-same hypocrites would be falling all over themselves to make her the next American Idol winner, the next Governor of California, Jim Press’ replacement at Chrysler, and the next Secretary of Domestic Relations in the Obama cabinet, all rolled into one!

  • Hannitized

    Kenny……….boy you are dumb:

    So it IS a freedom of speech issue. People don’t like her stand, so they’re trying to strip her of her crown. That simple.

    She has contractual obligations she agreed to that limit her public speaking with organizations such as NOM.

    She violated her terms of contract. Just as I told you before, when you screwed it up by getting it wrong.

    No Miss America contestant has ever had issue with photos like this taken. Why? They don’t violate the rules.

    Nobody has a problem with the photos from a contractual context. She never reported the photos and that was also a lie and contract violation, just like I told you earlier, and just like you screwed up by not understanding earlier.

    You were just flat wrong then, and wrong now.

    It’s not that you take issue with anything other than her politics. And as such, you’re ok with any attempt to destroy her.

    Disgusting little troll.

    Wrong. She can have her own opinion, just like we can have ours. Her problem is she didn’d say it is the states right and that she should not have gone and run to be a NOM spokesperson without getting it approved by Miss California Pageant.

    She is supposed to represent all of California, NOM does not.

    Sorry Kenny….epic fail on your part.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    They really should return to the tradition of the Miss Something or Other Contest and ask the young women what kind of tree they would be and why or besides Raygun, who has been the biggest influence on your life and are those real?

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    You are making this a free speech issue, when it is not.

    But later:

    If she had just said it is a states right to determine, she would not be in this mess.
    If she did not go to be a spokesperson for NOM, she would not be in this mess.
    Personal responsibility. Deal with it.

    So it IS a freedom of speech issue. People don’t like her stand, so they’re trying to strip her of her crown. That simple.

    I have already stated it’s not the photos i take issue with. Its the lying, violation of contract obligations and moral hypocrisy.

    No Miss America contestant has ever had issue with photos like this taken. Why? They don’t violate the rules.

    Normal people don’t consider these to be topless photos. The very first site on a yahoo search for “What is a topless photo?” Comes up with this (warning: not safe for work):

    http://www.topless-celebrity.com/

    Hmmm, that’s quite a bit different than Prejean.

    It’s not that you take issue with anything other than her politics. And as such, you’re ok with any attempt to destroy her.

    Disgusting little troll.

  • Stewartized

    “I want to strip Obamy of his crown because i don`t agree with what he says. And he`s back-tracked on numerous campaign promises so he`s a lier”. Seriously, as i`ve said before, Ms. Prejean is only creating attention because she wants to see if she can flip Hilton, Dino and Hanni to the straight side. But i doubt if even she can.

  • http://insanereindeer.blogspot.com/ Kenny

    Tell that to the Miss California Directors, who say you are wrong. I just go by the fact of the pageant Miss California goes by.
    They spoke this morning on her two violations. How can you argue that?

    She’ll retain her second place crown. Hmm.

    They are supposed to inform the pageant if they took semi-nude photos. She didn’t, she lied about taking them. Then she lied about her age when she took them. Then she continue to lie about them afterwards.

    The photos weren’t semi nude. And no one can prove when they were taken.

    You’re done.

  • Headward

    BTW being a public figure does not limit her free speech.

    I think they are just putting her under the microscope because of her beliefs and answer about marriage. But her contract does limit her on what she can and cannot do. Take a look at the NFL’s player conduct policy. They deam anything to be in bad taste(most just arrests) they will suspend a player.

    Contracts can limit your constitutional freedoms. She entered into the contract, now if they can prove she broke it – remove her. I think she would be better off without that title.

  • http://suitepotato.blogspot.com/ sayanything-4808

    bill-tb:

    Rob, I agree it’s all a bunch of crap. If it weren’t for the bathing suits, I doubt anyone would watch.

    Are you kidding? If they walked the runway without the bathing suits, MORE people would watch.

  • http://suitepotato.blogspot.com/ sayanything-4808

    So she poses in about as much as the pageant has every woman pose in and they want to have a cow about that?

    She speaks her mind publicly as a free citizen and they want to have a cow about that?

    oO?

    Uh, yeah…

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    I hope they strip her of her crown. She’s a lying, pompous opportunist who fits right in to the conservative mold.

    Opportunist, sure. But who can blame her? Fame is alluring, and everyone wants their 15 minutes.

    Pompous…I haven’t gotten that impression.

    And lying?

    Sounds like you just hate her for her politics.

  • http://suitepotato.blogspot.com/ sayanything-4808

    Note that in no way are they making a moral statement about her POV. She was the one who made the moral statement, they’ve not rebutted it with anything more than hate, slander, and “but, but, but, she can’t say that” responses.

    Which tells me that they know she’s right but that their support for gay marriage isn’t about morality or ethics or any sort of sympathy for gays but about their own need for something else. A something else that requires an unbroken illusion of righteousness that shatters at the first moral argument against it.

    Of course, it helps that she’s got a better bod than any of her detractors.

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