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Michelle Obama: $600 Stimulus Check Was Only Enough For A Pair Of Earrings

Maybe…if you buy the sort of earrings the wife of a US Senator who makes a big salary because her husband got her boss a big, fat earmark would wear.

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama’s wife, Michelle, complained the government’s $600 economic stimulus check was only enough to buy “a pair of earrings” while stumping for her husband.

“You’re getting $600 - what can you do with that?” Mrs. Obama said in Pontiac, Michigan last week. “Not to be ungrateful or anything, but maybe it pays down a bill, but it doesn’t pay down every bill every month. The short-term quick fix kinda stuff sounds good, and it may even feel good that first month when you get that check, and then you go out and you buy a pair of earrings.”

Kind of hard to campaign as the people who represent the little people when you’re talking about your $600 earrings and your husband is going about Iowa bemoaning the price of arugula.

All joking, and evidence of the Obama’s family complete lack of common sense, aside I actually agree with what Michelle Obama was getting at here.  The rebate checks were a one-time thing.  You spend them, and they’re gone along with any stimulus they may or may not have done for the economy.

If we want long term economic stimulus we need tax cuts, which would put more money in the pockets of Americans by letting them keep more of their paychecks every single pay day.  The stimulus from that money would be robust and lengthy, though somehow I don’t think that’s quite what Michelle was getting at.

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Out of touch liberal.  $600.00 earings on a whim with a government check that they railed against…

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atease on July 15, 2008 at 10:07 pm
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I was hoping this would get attention here!
‘Preciate that, Rob
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Her equating a $600 stimulus grant to merely a pair of ear rings just chaps my hide!
It’s like the Katrina “victims” that got caught buying extravagances with their emergency living expenses grants.
I hope this get’s driven by the media.
/Hey! I used “hope” twice!

RebTex on July 15, 2008 at 10:15 pm
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here are a few non lethal ways to shoe congress your disapproval if they break in august without getting a few things taken care of. all methods are non lethal but do constitute assault so be willing to accept responsibility for your actions.

1. rotten eggs and tomatoes (the old classic)

2. water balloons filled with permanent dies (go for the face)

3. mace and pepper spray

4. tasers you have to be close and bear in mind they can shut down a pacemaker (they are considered non lethal)

5. beanbag cannons

6. flash bangs (it will get there attention)

7. tear gas (can be flammable but considered non lethal)

8. super glue i’m sure you can think of something 1001 uses.

submit some of your own be creative ideas lets get the point across to them words don’t work with these people.

CPU Maggot on July 15, 2008 at 10:21 pm
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If you’re suggesting an assault on a Congressperson or a Representative or any of their property, PLEASE count me out!

RebTex on July 15, 2008 at 10:28 pm
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Don’t even get me started on the stimulus checks…. we should have taken that money, divided it up among governors and let them put it into the states infrastructure. Ask any governor what project(s) they have on the backburner and then put those construction crews to work. For years. Not a day, or a week. Years.

THAT would stimulate the economy.

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Don’t even get me started on the stimulus checks…. we should have taken that money, divided it up among governors and let them put it into the states infrastructure.

I don’t think that’s a very good idea.  In my state, for instance, we have massive budget surpluses and a record-setting treasury balance.  Our state government doesn’t need the money.

What we need are tax cuts, which would actually drive up tax revenue in the states as people spent their extra money and paid things like sales taxes, etc.


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Can you imagine this out of touch liberal as her husband, the President’s closest adviser.

O’blurry: Gee Honey! Do you think the peasants need their taxes cut?

Michelle: Nah! They’ve probably got enough earrings already!


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Can you imagine this out of touch liberal as her husband, the President’s closest adviser.

O’blurry: Gee Honey! Do you think the peasants need their taxes cut?

Michelle: Nah! They’ve probably got enough earrings already!


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Not to be ungrateful or anything, but maybe it pays down a bill, but it doesn’t pay down every bill every month.

Is she suggesting:
a) it didn’t help because it wasn’t enough
AND
b) it should be every month

If my question is viewed as an attack on her person I heartily apologize and revoke it.  I know both Mr and Mrs Empty suit can be very sensitive and even the appearance of criticism is verbotten.

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Can you imagine this out of touch liberal as her husband, the President’s closest adviser.

O’blurry: Gee Honey! Do you think the peasants need their taxes cut?

Michelle: Nah! They’ve probably got enough earrings already!


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Michelle: Nah! They’ve probably got enough earrings already!


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Can you imagine this out of touch liberal as her husband, the President’s closest adviser.

O’blurry: Gee Honey! Do you think the peasants need their taxes cut?

Michelle: Nah! They’ve probably got enough earrings already!


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Just wait till she says “Let them eat cake”
/It shouldn’t be too long

RebTex on July 16, 2008 at 08:43 am

Class envy republicans/conservatives aren’t y’all.
I wonder what the old Mr McCain and Cindy did with their check.

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Just wait till she says “Let them eat cake”

Great minds, RebTex! Over on my blog, I called her Michelle “Let them eat cake” Obama!

And the “change” O’blurry is looking for is “chump change”! Heh.


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Just wait till she says “Let them eat cake”

Great minds, RebTex! Over on my blog, I called her Michelle “Let them eat cake” Obama!

And the “change” O’blurry is looking for is “chump change”! Heh.


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Proof!
Neat!
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ellinas
THere’s no class envy.
While the Office of the President is the highest in the land, it’s STILL a public servant position.
In her, I see a very un-appreciative & domineering person.
Her various statements serve only to bolster this idea.
Show me where I’m wrong

RebTex on July 16, 2008 at 08:57 am

ellinas
There’s no class envy. In my book the Obama’s have no class what so ever. End of story.


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Anna on July 16, 2008 at 09:20 am

RebTex.That is your perception, I cannot change,nor do i desire to change it. If you can judge her character over a $600.00 pair of earings, you certainly are better at analyzing ones character than I. Kudos to you.

ellinas on July 16, 2008 at 09:52 am

Anna. All the critcism over a $600.00 pair of earings is class envy. A lot of women have earings costing more than $600.00. And I bet you great number of women have clothes and jewlery that exceeds their means. I call that champagne taste on beer income.
By the way, I’d love to read “your book”

ellinas on July 16, 2008 at 10:02 am

A lot of women have earings costing more than $600.00. And I bet you great number of women have clothes and jewlery that exceeds their means.

ellinas,

What you say is true… but only one out of all those women, Michelle Obama, is personally campaigning for her husband to be the next president by telling everyone, women in particular, how terrible their economic situation has become in the past 7 years.

It is not “class envy” to note the “audacity” of hypocrisy in a candidate… and his family.


“Capitalism is optimism monetized.”

Bat One on July 16, 2008 at 10:23 am
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“If you can judge her character over a $600.00 pair of earings, you certainly are better at analyzing ones character than I. Kudos to you.”
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My post stipulated that the attitude of hers about the value of $600 ALONG with her various other statements helped me form my opinion.
And Thanks for noticing !

RebTex on July 16, 2008 at 10:38 am

It would be nice if more people were able to utilise the bully pulpit. I guess some are luckier than others. Whether one’s financial situation has worsened in the last seven years, depends on one’s financial reality. A lot of people will say it has not and a lot of people will say yes.
The devaluation of the dollar has done IMO done a lot of damage to a lot of peoples finances. When I go abroad for vacation it shows that my financial situation is not what it was seven years ago.

ellinas on July 16, 2008 at 10:41 am
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Whoa there!
You’re talking something completely different that I was!
You wanna talk about devalued dollars?!
You need to go all the way back to 1971.
Nixon screwed that pooch.

RebTex on July 16, 2008 at 10:50 am

It would be nice if more people were able to utilise the bully pulpit. I guess some are luckier than others. Whether one’s financial situation has worsened in the last seven years, depends on one’s financial reality. A lot of people will say it has not and a lot of people will say yes.
The devaluation of the dollar has done IMO done a lot of damage to a lot of peoples finances. When I go abroad for vacation it shows that my financial situation is not what it was seven years ago.

ellinas on July 16, 2008 at 10:51 am

Whoa there!
You’re talking something completely different that I was!
You wanna talk about devalued dollars?!
You need to go all the way back to 1971.
Nixon screwed that pooch.
RebTex on July 16, 2008 at 10:50 am

You mean to tell me that among other crimes Nixon was a practitioner of bestiality?

ellinas on July 16, 2008 at 10:56 am

I don’t wear earings so I used my $600 stimulus check to buy 200 NOBAMA bumper stickers.

Mickey on July 16, 2008 at 12:57 pm

Pooch told me it was the other way around.

Nixon screwed that pooch

Checkers enviously confirmed.

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I gave my stimulus check to several “clingers.”

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By the way, I’d love to read “your book”

Especially if it has pictures!


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I didn’t buy anything with my stimulus check, per se, it was direct deposited into my account.
However, flush with cash and confidence in the economy, I did recently purchase the NRA Commemorative Ruger Mark II, which did not exceed the size of my stimulus check. Perhaps another firearm to polish off the balance?

Stimulate your local gunshop!


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I used my $600 on a Kimber.

Hoth on July 16, 2008 at 03:36 pm

Especially if it has pictures!
Proof on July 16, 2008 at 02:09 pm

Did Anna buy a camera with he stimulus check?

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Did Anna buy a camera

I hope so! We need more than just the coy shot of her eye over on the Reader blogs!


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Did Anna buy a camera

I haven’t received my stimulus check. When I do, it goes straight into a planned investment.


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Anna on July 16, 2008 at 05:08 pm

I haven’t received my stimulus check. When I do, it goes straight into a planned investment.

Not yet?..my last 2 digits are above 70 and got mine 3 weeks ago. They’re going fast, get’em while they last.


At least when George Bush was reading My Pet Goat, he genuinely had no idea Manhattan was being terrorized. And it wasn’t by his own plane.

Spartacus on July 16, 2008 at 05:23 pm

Wow, just another example of you guys making things up.
She obviously said that after doing OTHER MORE IMPORTANT THINGS with the money like pays bills and the like that all that would be left is enough to buy something cheap, a new pair of earrings.

CatMow on July 16, 2008 at 05:50 pm

The short-term quick fix kinda stuff sounds good, and it may even feel good that first month when you get that check, and then you go out and you buy a pair of earrings.”

No CatMow, she said the above quote. Prior to that she suggested something, but then she went the earring route.


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Anna on July 16, 2008 at 05:58 pm

Nixon screwed that pooch.

Actually, Johnson did more to devalue the currency with his massive “War on Poverty” scam.  It’s still going on, as a matter of fact.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

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Wow, just another example of you guys making things up

Wow, just another example of you coughing up a hairball! Don’t let the door hit your furry little tail on the way out!


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PROOF!
I have the M-77 Mark 2!
It’s the cat’s meow!

RebTex on July 16, 2008 at 06:09 pm
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I was thinking along the lines of taking the dollar off the gold standard.

RebTex on July 16, 2008 at 06:11 pm

RebTex. You are mistaken as to how much of Nixon screwed that pooch. According to our in house expert Johnson screwd it more. You owe us all an apology for the misinformation you are spreding on this blog.
What the hell is wrong with you?
Shame on you.

Ps. If you are Christian of the Catholic persuation, 102 Hail Mary’s will do. No more no less.

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I conceede that that Johnson (pronounced ‘Jahw-Sahn’ this close to the Sabine) didn’t help with his stroke of brilliance.
I just feel that when the Fed Reserve quit backing each dollar in gold, we all begin to suffer.
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RebTex on July 16, 2008 at 06:23 pm

and the like that all that would be left is enough to buy something cheap, a new pair of earrings.

And like I bet those were union made earrings, ‘cause dude, she’s like a great American who only buys union made shit!!11!!!eleventy!!!11!


At least when George Bush was reading My Pet Goat, he genuinely had no idea Manhattan was being terrorized. And it wasn’t by his own plane.

Spartacus on July 16, 2008 at 06:23 pm

I just feel that when the Fed Reserve quit backing each dollar in gold, we all begin to suffer.

I disagree, but that’s a very long discussion.  We can’t have our money supply limited by the quantity of a metal.  It just doesn’t make sense.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on July 16, 2008 at 06:31 pm

^ I watched “Fast Times at Ridgemont High”...I’m somewhat fluent in “surfer dude”


At least when George Bush was reading My Pet Goat, he genuinely had no idea Manhattan was being terrorized. And it wasn’t by his own plane.

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I agree, Robert.
It’s a discussion for another time

RebTex on July 16, 2008 at 06:40 pm

I disagree, but that’s a very long discussion.  We can’t have our money supply limited by the quantity of a metal.  It just doesn’t make sense.

I agree R108. If you’re going to base currency upon a metal, why cheap shit like gold? Wouldn’t platinum make more sense? Hell, at nearly $2 grand an ounce why invest in a metal third world countries aspire to own a few pounds of yet sit upon huge deposits of, and yet can’t exploit themselves? We’ve probably got more platinum harbored in auto salvage yards and traveling our highways, locked up in catalytic converters, than the rest of the world has available as a commodity to back their respective currencies.


At least when George Bush was reading My Pet Goat, he genuinely had no idea Manhattan was being terrorized. And it wasn’t by his own plane.

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Cindy McCain: “In Arizona The Only Way To Get Around The State Is By Small Private Plane”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/14/cindy-mccain-in-arizona-t_n_112695.html

It’s the ONLY way to travel!  Her other private plane isn’t that small though.

android on July 17, 2008 at 08:08 am

Cindy McCain: “In Arizona The Only Way To Get Around The State Is By Small Private Plane”

THAT is a reasonable counterpoint.  The statements are of similar caliber and elitism.  Though I’d give her my copyrighted Forgiveness Points (TM) if it is a private plane and not guvmint paying for it.

FlyOnTheWall on July 17, 2008 at 08:57 am

Cindy McCain has earned everything she has, by being a successful businesswoman; Michelle Obama profits from her husband’s political influence peddling.  Big difference.  Cindy has earned her stuff.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on July 17, 2008 at 09:06 am

Cindy has earned her stuff.

I would personally allow the criticism to stand (heh) if the plane was paid for through government funds.  I don’t have data but during a campaign that is a very real possiblility.

FlyOnTheWall on July 17, 2008 at 09:38 am

What part of “Cindy McCain has earned everything she has.” didn’t you understand?


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on July 17, 2008 at 09:46 am

flyonthewall thinks allegations without proof should stand.  That tells us a lot more about him than it does Mrs. McCain.


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As long as the aircraft isn’t too large,i.e. qualifies as a light aircraft by the FAA, the cost per statute mile is a fraction of driving.

RebTex on July 17, 2008 at 10:11 am

What part of “Cindy McCain has earned everything she has.” didn’t you understand?
robert108 on July 17, 2008 at 09:46 am

The inherited part.
If she started from zero and earned everything, kudos to her.

ellinas on July 17, 2008 at 10:15 am

flyonthewall thinks allegations without proof should stand.

Untrue.  For unknown situations I have a ‘Heisenberg Quantum Box’ esque category.  This cat is neither dead nor alive until I have some kind of observation.  I have sufficient proof that Mrs Empty Suit is elitist.  I have no proof either way on Mrs The Chin from Another Planet. 

HuffPo is insufficient to sway but IF Android’s quote is legit and IF it was done with Fed money, Android made a valid point.  Running a successful business does not preclude using federal funds.

(Welcome to my bizarre little mind. There’s a lovely nook to the left with Stuff On My Cat.)

FlyOnTheWall on July 17, 2008 at 10:19 am

...qualifies as a light aircraft by the FAA, the cost per statute mile is a fraction of driving.

Whoa, that perked the GasNazi up in me.  Makes sense given that flying generally follows straighter lines and has fewer stop lights. 

Long slow thought…  Nope, couldn’t even get an ultra light to take off from around my house.  Sigh.

FlyOnTheWall on July 17, 2008 at 10:24 am

The inherited part.

More leftie jealousy and hatred.  Whether or not she inherited any money, she is successful in business, whereas Michelle gets her salary from the taxpayers, bloated by her husband’s influence-peddling.
There is no valid comparison.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on July 17, 2008 at 10:26 am

First you ask: “What part of “Cindy McCain has earned everything she has.” didn’t you understand?”

Then when you get your answer you respond: More leftie jealousy and hatred.
robert108 on July 17, 2008 at 10:26 am

I think the only answer you will accept is the one that will come out of your brain. Nothing else will do.

ellinas on July 17, 2008 at 10:34 am

Keep pickin’ that nit, troll.  Michelle gets taxpayer money, increased by her influence-peddling husband; Cindy runs her own business, and buys her own stuff.
None of your bullshit can change that fact.  How much did Michelle inherit?  Unlike you, I’m not jealous of other people who have become successful by their own efforts.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

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FlyOnTheWall
Perhaps a gyro-copter?
. .
. On the fuel issue, it’s more than the straight line.
Take a 90hp Continental.
It closely resembles a VW engine….flat opposed 4 cylinder oil & air cooled.
It sips fuel.
Bear in mine that I don’t suspect McCain’s chick would be riding around in a C-152, but you get the general idea

RebTex on July 17, 2008 at 10:44 am

I think the only answer you will accept is the one that will come out of your brain. Nothing else will do.
ellinas on July 17, 2008 at 10:34 am

Yep I was right. Nothing will do unless it is hatched in your brain.

ellinas on July 17, 2008 at 10:47 am

It closely resembles a VW engine….flat opposed 4 cylinder oil & air cooled.
It sips fuel.

Thanks.  You just opened up a chunk of my mind.  Ironically, we just spent some of the morning discussing octane, compression, efficiency, cylinder cross section etc.  (Since nothing was being ionized I shut up and listened.)

FlyOnTheWall on July 17, 2008 at 10:54 am

e: That’s a good thing, since nothing seems to hatch in your brain.  Here’s what you can do to prove your point, even though it’s a nonsensical point:

How much did Cindy inherit(if any)?
How much is she worth now?
If she is worth more now than whatever she may have inherited, then she has made what she has now.
Even if she inherited more than she has now, it’s private money, not taxpayer money, like Michelle is feeding on.

I challenge you to make a cogent argument, for anything.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on July 17, 2008 at 11:01 am

Running a successful business does not preclude using federal funds.

“does not preclude” is the weasel phrase here. It doesn’t mean that she is taking any taxpayer money, it just implies it, which is an unsupported smear.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on July 17, 2008 at 11:05 am

The subject of this thread is about an elitist statement made by Michelle Obama, and the leftie smear machine starts cranking out smear against Cindy McCain.
They just don’t get that trying to distract doesn’t change the nature of Michelle’s elitism.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on July 17, 2008 at 11:07 am
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Yeah, but the topic drifted naturally to a valid comparison. 

You aren’t a successful person because you inherited a fortune.

Hannitized on July 17, 2008 at 11:40 am

Yeah, but the topic drifted naturally to a valid comparison.

Wrong!  Distracting by trying to smear Cindy with unsupported crap in no way mitigates Michelle’s elitist comments or the source of her money.
There is no valid comparison here.
Cindy is an achiever, Michelle is a parasite.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on July 17, 2008 at 11:45 am

I don’t have data…

Exactly.  It’s an unsupported smear.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on July 17, 2008 at 11:47 am
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.... to smear Cindy with unsupported crap in no way mitigates Michelle’s elitist comments or the source of her money.

Michele put herself through college and is a Lawyer, and accomplished woman.  People who make money are not elitists, they are successful.

People who inherit money are not successful, they are elitists.

There is no valid comparison here.

Amen to that!  Clearly Mrs. McCain is the elitist, not Michelle.

Michelle LaVaughn Robinson Obama (born January 17, 1964)[1] is an American lawyer and the wife of Illinois senator Barack Obama, the 2008 Democratic presumptive nominee for President. She was born and grew up on the South Side of Chicago and graduated from Princeton University and Harvard Law School. After completing her formal education, she returned to Chicago and went to work for the law firm Sidley Austin, on the staff of the Mayor of Chicago Richard M. Daley, and for the University of Chicago and the University of Chicago Hospitals. She is the sister of Craig Robinson, men’s basketball coach at Oregon State University.

There you have it.

Cindy is an achiever, Michelle is a parasite.

If you think that then you are a classless ass.  But we knew that already.

Hannitized on July 17, 2008 at 11:59 am

After completing her formal education, she returned to Chicago and went to work for the law firm Sidley Austin, on the staff of the Mayor of Chicago Richard M. Daley, and for the University of Chicago
and the University of Chicago Hospitals.

Taxpayer money, like I said.  What “programs” did she use to pay for her education?  What was the source of her recent pay raise?
You have yet to present any evidence that Cindy has any inheritance, how much it is, and how it compares to her current net worth.  In other words, you are simply trying to smear Cindy to distract from Michelle’s elitist remark.  Shame on you!
Michelle is the subject of this thread, not Cindy.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on July 17, 2008 at 02:24 pm

How much did Cindy inherit(if any)? How much is she worth now?
If she is worth more now than whatever she may have inherited, then she has made what she has now.
Even if she inherited more than she has now, it’s private money, not taxpayer money, like Michelle is feeding on.
I challenge you to make a cogent argument, for anything.
robert108 on July 17, 2008 at 11:01 am

I contacted the McCain campaign,her beer distributorship and IRS.
This is what I got: The beer distribution company called of Hensley & Co., she inherited from her father. (Like you didn’t know you lying old bastard)
She,her children, and Andrew McCain (old Mr McCain’s son)together control 68 percent of the company. As far as her assets,no one will release any figures.

You old fool. You think you are smart or something by shaping your questions like that? You think I would not notice that no matter what I answered you had your bases covered? What a moron you are.
Like I told you before: It was born at night. However it was not last night.

ellinas on July 17, 2008 at 03:14 pm

Like I told you before: It was born at night. However it was not last night.

Let us know when you wake up.  You still didn’t answer the questions.  This thread is about Michelle’s elitist comment, not about your pathetic smears of Cindy.  Try to stay on topic.  Michelle has been the beneficiary of taxpayer money almost her whole life.  Cindy has private money.  Big difference.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on July 17, 2008 at 03:32 pm

Ellinas:  Cindy McCain quietly runs one of the most effective international free health-care clinics for children in the world, and she and her husband adopted a hair-lipped Bangledeshi girl that she met while touring her clinics.

Add that, please, to the facts you gleaned about Mrs.John McCain.


“Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other vews.

William F. Buckley Jr.

pparets on July 17, 2008 at 03:34 pm
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$600.. using “Earrings” as cost comparison??.. No wonder Barack is trying to keep her off the Campaign trail now.. Certianly show folks how far Blacks in the U.S. have come, when they become as “out of touch” and “elite” as anyone else who can climb to “Privilege”..

Jerry on July 17, 2008 at 04:21 pm
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Hey Barack, let’s blame the media, instead of you and Michele taking some responsibility for Michele’s low popularity. Maybe the public doesn’t like it when a potential first lady makes statements about America being mean, or not being proud of America until her husband is elected. Or, maybe it’s because you joined Barack in subjecting your small children to the likes of Anti-American racist Jeremiah Wright throughout their entire childhood.

Gina on July 17, 2008 at 04:39 pm

I contacted the McCain campaign,her beer distributorship and IRS.

You want us to think that any of those entities would give you personal info on Cindy?  Not credible.  You’re just making it up.
Shame on you!  This thread is about Michelle’s elitist comment, not Cindy McCain.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on July 17, 2008 at 04:51 pm

You old fool. You lying old moron. You asked this question on this thread:
How much did Cindy inherit(if any)?
How much is she worth now?
If she is worth more now than whatever she may have inherited, then she has made what she has now.
Even if she inherited more than she has now, it’s private money, not taxpayer money, like Michelle is feeding on.
I challenge you to make a cogent argument, for anything.
robert108 on July 17, 2008 at 11:01 am

And when one answers you, you come back with this:
Shame on you!  This thread is about Michelle’s elitist comment, not Cindy McCain.

What is wrong with you. Do you think you are dealing with your grand children?
Stop the lying.

ellinas on July 17, 2008 at 09:28 pm

I know I’m dealing with a shameful liar, who claims the IRS gave him financial information on another citizen.
I also noted your off-topic bullshit.
Your pathetic, unhinged namecalling shows me I put my ordnance right on the target.
Keep squealing!  Incoming!!!


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on July 17, 2008 at 09:33 pm

I said: As far as her assets,no one will release any figures.
ellinas on July 17, 2008 at 03:14 pm

You said: You want us to think that any of those entities would give you personal info on Cindy?  Not credible.  You’re just making it up.
robert108 on July 17, 2008 at 04:51 pm

You old flunky you.

ellinas on July 17, 2008 at 09:35 pm

Stop the lying.

It is you who lie; here’s title of the thread, since you are obviously unable to read it:

Michelle Obama: $600 Stimulus Check Was Only Enough For A Pair Of Earrings

Try to stay on the subject, moron.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on July 17, 2008 at 09:35 pm

I know I’m dealing with a shameful liar, who claims the IRS gave him financial information on another citizen.
robert108 on July 17, 2008 at 09:33 pm

I said I called IRS. Never claimrd to have gotten info from them.
I also said this:
You old fool. You think you are smart or something by shaping your questions like that? You think I would not notice that no matter what I answered you had your bases covered? What a moron you are.

Now have a good night.

ellinas on July 17, 2008 at 09:40 pm

It is you who lie; here’s title of the thread, since you are obviously unable to read it:
Michelle Obama: $600 Stimulus Check Was Only Enough For A Pair Of Earrings
Try to stay on the subject, moron.
robert108 on July 17, 2008 at 09:35 pm

You old fool. You lying old moron. You asked this question on this thread:
How much did Cindy inherit(if any)?
How much is she worth now?
If she is worth more now than whatever she may have inherited, then she has made what she has now.
Even if she inherited more than she has now, it’s private money, not taxpayer money, like Michelle is feeding on.
I challenge you to make a cogent argument, for anything. robert108 on July 17, 2008 at 11:01 am

And when one answers you, you come back with this:
Shame on you!  This thread is about Michelle’s elitist comment, not Cindy McCain.

What is wrong with you. Do you think you are dealing with your grand children?
Stop the lying.
ellinas on July 17, 2008 at 09:28 pm

Still going huh!

ellinas on July 17, 2008 at 09:43 pm

ellinas,

Both you and Hannitized before you were wrong to bring Cindy McCain into the discussion.

In the first place the thread is about Michelle Obama’s elitist condescension based on her public remarks about her stimulus check and her earrings.  Cindy McCain made no such remarks and offered no such complaint about the stimulus checks.

As for Cindy McCain’s finances, I would suggest that she is under no more obligation to disclose her personal finances than was Theresa Heinz Kerry some 4 years ago.


“Capitalism is optimism monetized.”

Bat One on July 17, 2008 at 09:45 pm
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Both you and Hannitized before you were wrong to bring Cindy McCain into the discussion.

No we weren’t.  If your side is going to move from taking a quote and discussing it to using it to bash a candidates wife about other things, then we are going to do the same thing.

This post isn’t about being “objective” or about making a fair criticism, it’s about slander.  And you should feel lucky that at least we were respectful about it, unlike your folks.

Hannitized on July 17, 2008 at 09:52 pm

If your side is going to move from taking a quote and discussing it to using it to bash a candidates wife about other things, then we are going to do the same thing.

H,

Your childishness gets tiresome.  “...do the same thing…”, Huh?  So which quote from Cindy McCain were you discussing?  What exactly did she say that was elitist or condescending?  Where’s the citation listing the quote?

This post isn’t about being “objective” or about making a fair criticism, it’s about slander.

Oh, stop your godawful whining!  I’m no more interested in your determination of what is “objective” or what constitutes “fair criticism” than I am the conjugation of verbs in Swahili or Farsi.  If you think its slander, get a lawyer.  Hawk should be around tomorrow afternoon.  Talk to him.  I’m sure he’ll be most sympathetic.


“Capitalism is optimism monetized.”

Bat One on July 17, 2008 at 10:23 pm

And when one answers you, you come back with this

You gave no answers, only lies, and you were off-topic, to boot.  Wrong, wrong, wrong!

Keep squealing!


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on July 17, 2008 at 11:12 pm

I said I called IRS. Never claimrd to have gotten info from them.

Exactly, and I have exposed your deception.

Keep squealing!


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on July 17, 2008 at 11:13 pm
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Bat,

In the first place the thread is about Michelle Obama’s elitist condescension based on her public remarks about her stimulus check and her earrings.

Michelle never said that she would buy a pair of $600.00 earrings….period.  They could easily be a 100.00 pair of earrings and the rest spent on something else.  Who knows?

The point is $600.00 isn’t a lot of money.  It isn’t.

To move the conversation to her job and then using her career choice to label her a “parasite” is going farther than debating her remark.

If you are too childish to admit that, I don’t really give a crap Bat.

Attacking Obama’s wife by calling her a parasite opens pandoras box. 

If you are going to attach Michele’s career choice, then we can attack Cindy’s because Michele’s career choice has NOTHING TO DO WITH HER COMMENT!!

Got it?

Hannitized on July 17, 2008 at 11:40 pm

H,

If you feel that something that was said abut Michelle Obama was out of line, then you should say so and argue that point.  Instead you are using someone else’ misstep to rationalize your own.  In essence you are saying, “He threw a tomato at my school bus, so its okay for me to throw one at his.”

That’s childish, and its reasoning unworthy of an adult.

Got it?

Finally, watch your personal pronouns!  I didn’t “attack Michelle’s career choice” as you’ve implied.

If you are going to debate me, as you indicated you wished to do two days ago, you’ll have to be a lot more precise with both your thinking and your diction if you have any hope of being successful.


“Capitalism is optimism monetized.”

Bat One on July 17, 2008 at 11:57 pm

H: I referred to Michelle as a parasite, because she has always lived off the taxpayer, and her present position and salary is due to her husband’s political clout.  In light of this, her elitist remarks about the amount of the stimulus check are particularly hypocritical, since she is totally dependent on the govt giving her taxpayer money.  There is no valid comparison to Cindy McCain, who works for a living, and as Bat and I have already pointed out, telling the truth about where Michelle’s money and privilege comes from is neither attack, slander or an excuse to smear Cindy.

Keep squealing!


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on July 18, 2008 at 12:39 am
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Instead you are using someone else’ misstep to rationalize your own.  In essence you are saying, “He threw a tomato at my school bus, so its okay for me to throw one at his.”

True.  Good point.  You are right.  That is why I like you Bat, you make valid, reasonable points.

That said, your argument is only half as reasonable as it could have been.  If you are going to be so considerate of going after those who have committed an offense, you should have told Robert that he was out of line as you did to me.  That way, at least I would know you have principles as opposed to emotional reactions.  Until you can call out your own, your criticism is only half-hearted.

That’s childish, and its reasoning unworthy of an adult.

Show me your principles and your adult behavior Bat, or stop displaying your lopsided standards.

Hannitized on July 18, 2008 at 09:44 am

Still distracting from the topic of the thread, I see!
This thread isn’t about you and your feelings, H, any more than it is about your juvenile smears of Cindy McCain.

Keep squealing!


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on July 18, 2008 at 09:54 am
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Robert,

You are unworthy of debating, because you can never meet your opponent half way.

That said, my responses to you, aren’t for your consideration.  They are for others to read to apply logic where you abandon it.

Now, let’s parse this puppy.

I referred to Michelle as a parasite, because she has always lived off the taxpayer,

Always is a word you don’t understand, apparently.  Sidley Austin is NOT a government entity, you dope!

Sidley Austin LLP, formerly known as Sidley Austin Brown & Wood LLP, is one of the oldest law firms in the world. It is the sixth-largest U.S.-based corporate law firm with over 1,800 lawyers, annual revenues of more than one billion dollars, and offices in 16 cities worldwide, with the most recent addition of Sydney, Australia, in May 2007. It is a full-service law firm, with broad experience in transaction and litigation matters. Its original predecessor firm was founded in 1866 and had Mary Todd Lincoln, the widow of President Abraham Lincoln, among its earliest clients.

Got it?

Let me reiterate:

Following law school, she was an associate at the Chicago office of the law firm Sidley Austin where she first met her husband. At the firm, she worked on marketing and intellectual property.[2]

Are you getting it???

In 1996, Obama served as the Associate Dean of Student Services at the University of Chicago, where she developed the University’s Community Service Center.[23] In 2002, she began working for the University of Chicago Hospitals, first as executive director for community affairs and, beginning May, 2005, as Vice President for Community and External Affairs.[24] She still holds the position, though is working part time in order to devote more time to being a mother.[25]

She rocks.  Compared to Cindy….she is a rock star.

..and her present position and salary is due to her husband’s political clout.

So what!  She is still a incredibly successful and talented individual.

There is no valid comparison to Cindy McCain, who works for a living,

Serving on a board is not “work”.  Further, the only time she “worked” was for a non-profit….....and…you guessed it….NON PROFITS ARE SUCKING OF THE TAXPAYER TEET!!

You are an idiot.

Hannitized on July 18, 2008 at 10:05 am

H,

Okay… briefly, ‘cuz I gots other stuff to get done today:

First, while I appreciate the compliment, I think you misapprehend my motives.  I am not here to hold myself out as a paragon of objectivity and fairness.  I don’t read every post or every comment here, nor do I offer criticism of every statement I find objectionable or with which I disagree.

Your remarks were directed to me.  Robert’s were not.  I responded to you… not to him.

I’m not the owner of the site, nor it’s Pooh-Bah of principles and protocol, and I have no pretense of being “fair and balanced” ... just reasoned and rational.  If you think of me as being more than what I’ve acknowledged, you are mistaken however honored I may be by the compliment.

Okay?


“Capitalism is optimism monetized.”

Bat One on July 18, 2008 at 10:19 am
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Your remarks were directed to me.  Robert’s were not.  I responded to you… not to him.

Nope!  My initial remarks were directed at Robert, you intervened as the self-appointed fairness referee.  THEN, and only then, did I engage you when I made my argument to defend myself, from your attack.

I’m not the owner of the site, nor it’s Pooh-Bah of principles and protocol, and I have no pretense of being “fair and balanced” ... just reasoned and rational.

Then your argument is lopsided and unworthy of consideration if you aren’t going to stand for principles.  Period.

Hannitized on July 18, 2008 at 10:28 am

You are unworthy of debating, because you can never meet your opponent half way.

Apparently you don’t know the meaning of the word “debate”, either.

You have finally given some counter-arguments, which is what debate is really about, and I will consider the points you made, which is also what debate is really about, and get back to you.

Unfortunately, your puerile personal crap detracts from what might have been a discussion based on facts and logic.

She rocks.  Compared to Cindy….she is a rock star.

This is just partisan nonsense, and has nothing to do with debate.
You concede my point that Michelle’s present position is both taxpayer-supported and due to her husband’s political influence, and then say “So what?”
This foolish nonsense has nothing to do with debate, either.
Cindy’s money comes from the private sector, while the taxpayers pay for Michelle’s “success”.
Get the difference?

The bottom line here is still that this thread is still about Michelle’s arrogant, elitist pronouncement, not about Cindy McCain at all.  You are distracting, not debating.

Debate requires a “pro” side and a “con” side, not childish hitback.
Here’s an example:

Pro: Michele’s statement is arrogant and elitist.
Con: Michele’s statement was not arrogant and elitist.

See?  Nothing whatsoever about anyone else.
That would be a real debate.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on July 18, 2008 at 10:29 am

...to defend myself, from your attack.

Your narcissistic self-absorption is noted.  Refuting your bullshit is not an “attack”; it’s an exercise in basic logical thinking.


If govt control of the economy were the way to go, the Soviet Union would be the richest, most powerful nation in the history of the world.

Thanks to Obama, America remains the only country where it is illegal to drill our own oil!

robert108 on July 18, 2008 at 10:32 am
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