Prove this citizen “harassed” those police officers.

I just watched that video again, for the 3rd time, and see no harassment by the citizen. I see clear and demonstrable harassment of the citizen by the police officers. And since they scuttled away, tails firmly between legs, they knew they had done wrong.

The SAB audience attempts to attack my character to lift themselves up in importance. I have become the symbol of blowback, after they have abandoned reason and logic for the sake of their desire to whale, whine and holler their partisan rants.

He was confrontational because at the end, because HE WAS RIGHT and they were wrong.

Hell I would be too if they came onto my property without any cause, tried and faield to make an issue out of my taping, and then left. No politely about it.

The police had nothing on the guy, and they left.

They should never have been there in the first place.

The police were wrong, but they showed respect and they left when they figured out there was no offense. The cameraman harassed the Police and goaded them, probably hoping for police abuse so he could sue.

You are assuming here as well.
This was not in the US, land of the court system. Not sure if the type of things you are assuming even are allowed or done as much as they are here.

The police left without saying a word, they knew they were wrong, adn while you state they left politiely there was nothing polite in ignoring the whole thing and just walking away after they figured out they were in the wrong. I would be a bit pissed that the police were acting that way too – and probably would have let them know I can print a copy of the law if they need it. I don’t think that is goading – I think it is slamming the point home the police should have known better.

What a fool. You parents would be proud…../sarcasm.

My parents are proud you doorknob. Well, my father was before he died – you want to talk about that too?

Is this what it takes for you to debate someone is to go after them personally and talk about thier parents?

Grow the fuck up.

Oh, and before you go on and whine about how others treat you – I don’t care, that is them, not me. Don’t use others actions to justify your own.

Look, you simply respect the law. Police deserve more respect than citizens filming them in order to egg on some kind of police abuse for the sake of entertainment or monetary gain.

Your assuming again. You have no idea what this was for or about – but you automatically choose to think this is for entertainment or money. He did not egg on the cops to come to him, the male cop saw him filming and approached him.

There was no egging on of the cops to get them to come over – the cops were wrong, you understand this, but seem to take the tact that because of how the filemer acted at the ned, it was for entertainment or monetary gain? How do you assume this? The cops came to him. The cops were wrong. And as far as I know, when you have done something stupid or wrong, it isn’t against the law to tell them to educate themselves.

That’s not how it went down. Re-read my fair analysis. Your is discombobulated garbage.

Fair only in how you state that the cops were wrong, but then turn it around and cast assumptions on everything else?

The main fact is, the cops NEVER should have been there in the first place. They took it upon themselves to approach the filmer, tried to get him to stop filming, the female tried to make an issue out of something the filmer stated and got called on what she was trying to do, and when they finally figure out they were wrong they left without any politeness of, sorry we were wrong, or sorry we were mistaken. So yeah, if I was the filmer, I would be a bit indignant about the whole situation also.

By the way, there is nothing wrong with asking for the name and badge number of any police officer.

Only in your mind would you think yelling to them to check out the law, or if they want he can supply them with a copy, and asking for thier names would be harrassment.

I probably wouldn’t have this big of a problem with them if they just acknowledged they screwed up. yet you go on and pretend they were polite about it – perhaps to a degree, but when they walk away after all that, and just ignore him and the situation – yeah, I would be a bit miffed at that.

It’s rather ironic, considering there are cameras on every utility pole in Great Britain.

Kevin does bring up an excellent point, there are more cameras in Great Britian than there is in places in the US.

Not sure how cops have it over there, but cops over here are filmed thru dashboard cams, specifically so they have backup of thier actiosn for review.

The officer was no ‘egged’ on, nothing was said to the officer to get him to come over to the citizen filming this. He noticed it and he and his partner came over and began questioning and then telling this citizen to stop filming.

The filmer instigated nothing, yelled nothing, and was well beyond any kind of obstruction of a peace officer.

Who is to say this was not a person filming for a blog about police officers in thier normal day to day lives? How is to say this person wasn’t giving props to the cops on a blog – we don’t know. Hell he could be denigating the cops on how they handle situations – BUT THAT IS HIS RIGHT.

I do not agree with the handling of thi by the cops, and since they KNEW they were in the wrong, (the female even tried to make a problem out of something the filmer remarked on and filmer called her on it and she dropped it), they walked away without even a sorry to bother you.

Most law enforcemnet have the TO SERVE AND PROTECT attitude, and they are good people (this is over seas so not exactly sure how they work thier, have to assume it is very similiar to us), but how were these two police officers serving or protecting the LAW and its citizens?

Watching that video made my BS detector go off with the cops. They were wrong, they knew it, couldn’t initimdate the filmer, and left.

Hannitize vomits another turd:

Rob is turning on the Police now???

Rob roots on civilians harassing the police.

Imagine Rob standing up for individual rights.

Imagine Hannitized getting his knickers in a not because Rob is opposed to totalitarianism.

You lefties are as worthy of taking seriously as Goofy from the Disney cartoons.

I consider that a compliment from a so-called Conservative who encourages people to “slap the shit out of their children”.

H,

I don’t recall any indignant commentary from you when fellow lefty Butch… erh… Buzz suggested a few weeks back that smacking women and children around was the way to get them to behave. Pretty selective with that anti-violence indignation, aren’t you?

The police came and entered his yard, and harrssaed HIM over filming they said was illegal which was not.

And then the citizen harassed the cops and showed them disrespect and Rob rooted on that type of disrespectful behavior to law enforcement.

The police had nothing on the guy, and they left. There was nothing to this video other than a cheap thrill to watch a citizen harass the cops.

Rob: H mostly lies about you and what you say. Welcome to the club.

The SAB audience attempts to attack my character to lift themselves up in importance. I have become the symbol of blowback, after they have abandoned reason and logic for the sake of their desire to whale, whine and holler their partisan rants.

Rob roots on civilians harassing the police.

Hannitized are you listening to the TWIST again, cause your doing alot of twisting here.

The police came and entered his yard, and harrssaed HIM over filming they said was illegal which was not. I do find it funny the person filming had to remind the police what the Law actually is and states.

If the police were in the right, they would not have left, essentially ignoring the situation like it never happened – because they got schooled essentially. So they ignored adn walked away – otherwise if it was illegal the person would have been arrested.

I couldn’t hear all of the phone conversation of the police – did they call to find out if it was illegal?

Sorry, I do not find anything wrong with filming at a distance, but if you are in thier face and you are intefering with the police in doing thier job, then I feel that would be obstructing an officer. This was not the case.

Obviously the first jury of the Rodney King officers saw it differently than those that watched the MSM version.

The police were harassed during their presence there and especially at the end.

Sanity misfires:

Law dictates if there is no problem you do not continue down the path of bothering the citizen. When they asked if there was a problem and he said no that should have been the end of it - in fact since there wasn’t even a need to ask if there was a problem, they should not have been there in the first place.

That’s not how it went down. Re-read my fair analysis. Your is discombobulated garbage.

Here is what I said, and it supports the facts:

But they didn’t “harass”, they asked if they could help with something, asked if he could turn off the camera, then mistakenly said it was an offense, called it in to check, found out it wasn’t, then left.

Look up the word Harass, and then recognize your failure.

They didn’t “continue down the path of bothering the citizen” when they determined there was no problem. THEY LEFT.

You make the mistake of forgetting the Police mistakenly thought it was as crime to film them. When they found out it wasn’t they left.

In America, you can get arrested for hassling Police like this guy did.

sanni? You have yet to prove that those “cops” were being harassed. Why is that, you lying assed cunt?

And you still have not proved those cops were harassed. Why is that?

No, people just consider you a moron.

I consider that a compliment from a so-called Conservative who encourages people to “slap the shit out of their children”.

Sanity has a cup of coffee and wakes up:

Ok so now you admit the police were in the wrong

I have always maintained they were mistaken. Re-read what I wrote.

The police were wrong, but they showed respect and they left when they figured out there was no offense. The cameraman harassed the Police and goaded them, probably hoping for police abuse so he could sue.

Now, you screw up again, but you are getting closer:

How is telling them to look up the LAW hassling?

Do you see the wordS that I used, “At the end of the tape”???? It was after the police realized that they were in the wrong that he started taunting them and hassling them. “can i get your names”, “Do you need me to read you the law”, the whole time he was confrontational with the police instead of telling them they were mistaken and being respectful…..that was all he needed to do…..”i print the laws out for you next time”,,,,,”i think you need to go and see those laws”….blah, blah, blah.

There was nothing polite in the polices manner, including the female police officer trying to make something out of a remark the filmer said, and the filmer calls her on it and she shuts up about it.

He said his camera can pick it up better than his ears, which is insulting and officer, which can get you arrested. They were being respectful to him, not insulting him and he insulted them.

He was confrontational.

Part of this though is that the public needs to react with understanding why cops behave in certain manners.

As much as anyone I react when I see a video of a cop doing wrong. On the other hand we have to put ourselves in their shoes when it comes to how they handle a situation.

Actaully no need for me to say more on this, you have been sufficiently schooled.

Actually, the cops were harassing a citizen who was exercising his Constitutional rights.

if your in public, youre game for pics or filming. the ability to do things like this, we would not have girls gone wild…. and wed never know what spitzers whore looked like naked.

I would be too. But they didn’t “harass”, they asked if they could help with something, asked if he could turn off the camera, then mistakenly said it was an offense, called it in to check, found out it wasn’t, then left.

Hannitized tries and fails again.

Law dictates if there is no problem you do not continue down the path of bothering the citizen. When they asked if there was a problem and he said no that should have been the end of it – in fact since there wasn’t even a need to ask if there was a problem, they should not have been there in the first place.

There was no need for the cops to be there.

There was no need for the cops to ask him to stop filming – they were the ones intruding, not the filmer.

When flmer refused they cops looked confused as if they weren’t sure what to do next, they milled a bit, played with thier phones, and then reached a dispatch…and in that if they had to ASK fi they were in the right of what they are doing, well that is just a sad thing.

How many times have we heard, Ignorance of the Law is no excuse – it applies to law enforcement.

Like the cop that pulled me over not long ago, BS detector went off with me when he stated two things. He didn’t have me on rasar, he wsa TRAINED to look at a car and tell how fast it was going by eyeballing it. (BS #1) Then there was the fact he ddn’t know what the speed limit for wase area was in – he said it was 45, where in fact it was 50….it was 45 farther down the road past the next light. (BS#2)

Cops make mistakes – they are normal human beings like the rest of us and they take more than thier fair shar of crap from citizens – but in this case they were wrong, in the end they KNEW they were wrong, and they walked away without even saying sorry.

Navtechie leaves his education on the res:

It is illegal to hamper or obstruct a police investigation, yes.

It is NOT illegal to film police officers in public.

Brilliant! Now go back and read what I wrote, and try again.

I said a person can get arrested for “hassling” the police like this guy did. At the end of the video, he taunts and hassles the Police who had made a mistake, and politely left after realizing their error.

eunuchized you racist apologist, you have no character.

The SAB audience attempts to attack my character to lift themselves up in importance.

Not your character… your shallowness, your dishonesty, and your tiresome self-promotion at the expense of anything pertinent.

I have become the symbol of blowback…

That’s “blowhard” not “blowback”!

Heh!

Not even the racist fuck whom eunuchized offered oppologia for is coming to his defense!

Sanity,

Let me take a step back. I remember a while ago a discussion you and I had. I must apologize for my tone. I only want to discuss my opinion here.

He was confrontational because at the end, because HE WAS RIGHT and they were wrong.

I agree the police were wrong, but there is never a “reason” to be disrespectful to a officer of the peace. The police weren’t wrong on purpose.

The police left without saying a word, they knew they were wrong, adn while you state they left politiely there was nothing polite in ignoring the whole thing and just walking away after they figured out they were in the wrong.

Well, I give them an allowance because they were polite while he was being confrontational. The police might have been flexing, but they were politely flexing. When they realized they were wrong, they left.

So yeah, if I was the filmer, I would be a bit indignant about the whole situation also.

I just got a ticket for “jaywalking”…..that was for walking in the crosswalk, while the seconds were ticking. They let a woman off who walked 15 ft out of the crosswalk.

I checked the law on jaywalking, the law reads Jay walking is when you walk outside of the crosswalk. I confronted the policeman politely afterwards. That is how it is done. I will contest the case later.

There was no egging on of the cops to get them to come over – the cops were wrong, you understand this, but seem to take the tact that because of how the filemer acted at the ned, it was for entertainment or monetary gain?

They were filming an ticketing for what reason? My opinion is that they were hoping for some sort of abuse to sell to the news, and later tried to incite police into action.

The cops came to him. The cops were wrong. And as far as I know, when you have done something stupid or wrong, it isn’t against the law to tell them to educate themselves.

They weren’t wrong on purpose. When you make a mistake do you want to be harassed? Did you like it when I said your parents should be proud? No. I was wrong to say that, you were right to be angry. Why the double standard?

My parents are proud you doorknob. Well, my father was before he died – you want to talk about that too?

Is this what it takes for you to debate someone is to go after them personally and talk about thier parents?

A sincere apology is in order. Remembering back on a dicussion we had, you do not deserve that. I sort of get lost on who is attacking me and I become tone deaf sometimes.

I am truly sorry, and ashamed. You don’t deserve that.

The main fact is, the cops NEVER should have been there in the first place. They took it upon themselves to approach the filmer, tried to get him to stop filming, the female tried to make an issue out of something the filmer stated and got called on what she was trying to do, and when they finally figure out they were wrong they left without any politeness of, sorry we were wrong, or sorry we were mistaken.

That is not the proper time-line. The police were wrong, they came over agitated but addressed the man politely, he was confrontational and kept on, she responded when he insulted the police man. Be honest enough to admit that. Of course they left without apologizing, he was not being polite or respectful. Their lives are on the line. They deserve more respect. You know this.

Even if you have nothing to hide, that nothing is still yours and you have every right to hide it if you wish and the government and society no right to take it from you without good cause being shown. Not innuendo, not fear-mongering claims, but something actual and concrete.

The cops on the other hand are public SERVANTS and should be expected to be under surveillance while on duty outside of being in a bathroom. Off duty, their lives are their own to be as private or public as they themselves choose, just like me and the rest of society.