It looks like the common thread is extremism.

Abortion protestors aren’t “extremists”; it’s natural to want to defend innocent life. Abortion is an extreme method of birth control, promoted by extreme eugenicists.

Its just too bad all you Democrats hate Jews and Negroes, like your poster boy Von Brunn. Now, tell us again why you anti-American, racist fucks should be allowed to continue your occupancy in my country?

108 The protester let his passion get the best of him. He took an exteme approach by taking the ‘law’ into his own hands. I willing to put abortion on the extemist list.

Kevin: The Steppenwolf lyrics Monster/Suicide was basically a war protest song.
“Police are watching the people and the people just don’t understand.” War protesters and crazy hippies were on the radar along with SDS under a conservative (Nixon)administration. Although Kent State was in 1970 I don’t know if this album came out before or after Kent State.
Now the pendulum has swung way to the left and the conservative and right wing nutters are being watched. Same song could be applied today just a differant focus. The more things change the more they stay the same.

It was a guerilla war which we couldn’t figure out how to fight. 

WTF? I have Vietnam combat vets in my family and know several other Nam combat vets. They will all tell you they knew how to fight the war and won pretty much every engagement with the VC and the NVA.
Problem was, once they won a battle they went back to base and the enemy just took their previous position. Then a week later our soldiers went back and took the same hill or valley, this repeated itself throughout the conflict.
It had nothing to do with “figuring out how to fight”.

no question we won almost every battle. I wrote above it was the liberal press that manipulated what the people saw weakening there resolve. There were two native populations and one got its ass kicked because there resolve wasn’t there. Was it because the gov’t in the south was put in by us not chosen by the people” Perhaps.
As far as knowing how to fight yes we could kick there ass in heads up fight but where we got body count they were able to win the war of attrition. North VIetnam had more people and were willing sacrifice them and they out of patriotism were willing to lay down there life.
Grant did this in the civil war. The north could lose more men and material because they could be replaced. The south couldn’t match . In this aspect we didn’t know how to fight the war.
Ando if you don’t thing there were atrocites please think again. My Lai being one of the most documented. It was a war and there was atrocities on both sides. Just because the other side does doesn’t make right that we did. The influence of VIetnam is of course being felt in todays wars.

Tet was one of the reasons that the press was controlled in the last wars. Vietnam was the first war that was played out almost as it happened. The public saw the horrors of war. The images seen were manipulated by the liberal press to get us out of an unpopular war. The buddhist monk, the girl running down the road after being napalmed took over the publics imagination. This war was a political war in a quest to stop communism. It was doomed because of a native population fighting on their soil for their freedom. It was a guerilla war which we couldn’t figure out how to fight. Gee it sounds like the revolutionary war. Yes we won TET battle but lost the war. The gov’t spied on US citizens because their views differed from the gov’t

Ok Kenny, here is your big chance. Say something nice about Democrats. Because we all know they are only criticized on this blog as dope smoking smelly hippies.

Considering this wasn’t me, I expect a full apology.

Not that I’ll get one, but still.

The real “conundrum” is why you continue to spin and deny what you originally did.

So pro life is not conservative plank or because he used violence he isn’t a pro life conservative.

Again, you argue dishonestly by making things up. I very clearly stated the murder is not part of being conservative. Any moron could then draw the conclusion that, while this guy claims to have murdered in the name of “pro-life”, and while you want to brand him as a “conservative” in your attempt to smear pro-lifers and conservatives, he is obviously not “pro-life”, since he committed murder. Too complicated for you?
Like the abortionist he killed, this guy is a vicious killer. One killer killed another. That’s the reality, but you try to twist and exploit it to smear people who aren’t even remotely like either of those killers.
Shame on you!

“That guy murdered someone so he wasn’t really a conservative but a liberal in conservative clothing.”

Not a quote from me, so you lie again. Are you capable of honest discussion?

From what I can gather from Rush, Hannity, Levin, Hennen, they feel they could tear apart anyone willing to come on their show.

They aren’t responsible for what’s inside your twisted mind. You are simply projecting your values on others.

Where in the Fairness Doctrine does it say it will only be used on conservative media outlets?

Study up; you’re humiliating yourself with your obvious ignorance.

Your “analysis” of media omits the 800 lb gorilla in the room, which is the dominant MSM.
You accuse conservative talkers of things they don’t do.
We are fortunate that there is any exposure of real American values in the media at all.
During the Vietnam War, the media lied about the outcome of the Tet Offensive, which resulted in our losing the war, and the loss of tens of thousands of American and Vietnamese lives. Again, we are lucky that the other side of leftie propaganda is now available.
Too bad you don’t know that.

Like Rush and Hannity and Levin.

Nice try, but wrong again; as Hillary shrieked to us, dissent is OK in America. Why the double standard?(Again)
In fact, conservatism is not ideologically based; it’s based on the Constitution, our founding principles, personal freedom, economic freedom, religious freedom, political freedom and individual independence. Ideology is basically inhuman, as it places ideas above people; conservative principles are based on human nature and the innate human desire for freedom.
When so-called Republicans embrace statist, collectivist ideology, they deserve to be called on it.
Only a left-wing extremist like you would seek to silence one side of the argument.

there was no generalization except they were extremists.

Exactly! You generalized about all abortion protestors on the basis of one man’s actions, but didn’t do the same with the muslim soldier murderer. Why the double standard?(Again)

So you do not believe that the killing of the Abortionist was an extreme act and the killer was no more then a nut job with conservative leanings.

Wrong again! I said no such thing, so you’re just making that up. He had no “conservative leanings”, since he used violence; that’s what you lefties ultimately do, when people opt out of your totalitarian ideology. Any murder is obviously an extreme act, but what I’m smacking you for is making a false equivalence between this deranged act and the pro-life movement. Furthermore, I’m smacking you for lying about conservative spokespeople for having a fraction of the time that you lefties have in public discourse. Finally, I’m smacking you for lying about any conservatives wanting to inhibit free speech; that’s what you lefties want to do with your “Fairness Doctrine”.

I would think you would want the Fairness Doctrine.

Why? I’m not a totalitarian like you. I support free speech, no matter who’s doing the speaking.

There are so many more liberal outlets that would have to be opened up for dissenting opinions.

Another lie from you; the so-called “Fairness Doctrine” would apply to only outlets for conservative ideas and opinions, and you know it.

I support free people making free choices in the marketplace. Let the consumers decide by voting with their dollars.

Let’s see if they mention the fact that he felt comfortable among Islamic anti-semites

And I kept telling you that you guys had more in common with the terrorists we are fighting than you thought.

Now you are going to act surprised???

Oh Rob……you aren’t very bright……are ya?

Interesting postulate, Jack. How about honest, hard working people who value life. The liberals attempt to smear good people while shielding criminals, and mass murderers like Muslims who murdered 3,000 innocent civilians. Can you imagine flying an airplane, fully loaded with fuel into a building? They are mind bombs and racist.

108 The protester let his passion get the best of him. He took an exteme approach by taking the ‘law’ into his own hands. I willing to put abortion on the extemist list.

A gross overgeneralization on your part from one insane person.
What do you make of the Muslim convert who murdered the soldier?
Again, people who naturally wish to protest the wholesale slaughter of innocent babies are not “extremists”. The real extremists are those who take those lives, in the name of “choice”. Pure obscenity.

lets see extremist racist, extremist muslim, and extremist abortion protester. It looks like the common thread is extremism. Logic swept away by passion. Hate being promoted. Is this really the way we want this country to go.

These are the words I wrote and everything is singular, One extreme racist, One extreme muslim and one extreme abortion protester. Are you just feeling guilty by association. My point on this is you cannot blame a group for one person ‘extreme act’.
Extremism is the common thread. These murderers let there passion take over.

When so-called Republicans embrace statist, collectivist ideology, they deserve to be called on it.
Only a left-wing extremist like you would seek to silence one side of the argument.
Which is what Levin, Hannity, and Rush want to do. Paraphrasing , The people that do not want to think, speak, act the way this trio wants you to. should shut up, change there way of thinking, or get out of the republican party. Thats why Steele had to back up.

Again, you make a false equivalence here; I’ve schooled you on that multiple times, and your bullshit continues.

Just to enlighten you: there are tens of millions of muslim extremists, and they have killed countless innocent people in their terrorist acts, all over the world. It is obscene of you to compare one nut to all of that, and to smear the pro-life movement as “extremist”.

Which is what Levin, Hannity, and Rush want to do.

An outright lie; those brave souls are only a few dissenting voices in an ocean of leftie lying propaganda. It’s you lefties who seek to eliminate any dissent from your ideology. Tell me about the “Fairness Doctrine”, hypocrite.
No conservative supports anything like that. We welcome the opportunity to expose and refute your arguments, as a matter of fact, just like I’m doing with you.
I will refute your lies, smears and false equivalences, but I have no desire to silence you.

rob, whether you want to believe it or not, your party is only about God and guns now. No matter how conservative they are, if God and guns are not in their speeches, they are not going past the primary. Any other con running will use G&G as a sledge hammer to destroy anyone not a palin clone.

This is nothing more than a comic book fantasy about what the Republican party is.

How do I know? I know alot of them in person, which you most likely do not.

Your portrayal of the Republican party is no more accurate than saying the Democratic party is nothing but dope-smoking hippies.

And I kept telling you that you guys had more in common with the terrorists we are fighting than you thought.

Rob Port has absolutely nothing common with ‘the terrorists’ and you goddam well know it, Hannitized.

You are an asshole for suggesting otherwise.

Set ‘em out, ride ‘em in
Ride ‘em in, let ‘em out,
Cut ‘em out, ride ‘em in Rawhide.

Don’t try to understand ‘em,
Just rope and throw and brand ‘em

So what the hell does that mean? The fact remains the Government was wrong to write and release their flawed DHS report. There are just as many nuts jobs from the left out there that the government should be watching but notice I have yet to see a report released about it.

Bob and others bring out the DHS report and try to link the 89 year old nut to the report as some form of vindication. They try to use the veteran angle. Let us see what it say’s…

http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/hsa-rightwing-extremism-09-04-07.pdf

(U//FOUO) Returning veterans possess combat skills and experience that are attractive to rightwing extremists. DHS/I&A is concerned that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to
boost their violent capabilities

A) The nut ball wasn’t a returning veteran unless you count 64 years ago as “returning”.

B) If he is to be believed he was a PT Boat Captain. This is a PT Boat. How useful were his combat skills and experience?

Here is what it was armed with…T two or four Mark 18 21-inch steel (53 cm) torpedo tubes launching Mark 8 torpedoes, two to four U.S. Navy Mark 6 depth charges in roll-off stern racks, or mine racks, twin 50 caliber machine guns, later PTS were armed with 40 mm Bofors gun aft and four launching racks, two on each beam, for 22.5-inch (57 cm) Mark 13 torpedos. Some PTs later received two eight-cell 5-inch (127 mm) spin-stabilized flat trajectory rocket launchers, giving them 16 rockets and as much firepower for a short time as a destroyer mounting five-inch guns. By war’s end, the PT boat had more “firepower-per-ton” than any other vessel in the U.S. Navy. One other addition US Navy PTs had was Raytheon SO type radar, with about a 25 nm range. Since PTs operated mainly at night, having radar gave them an advantage over the enemy in being able to locate and engage them even in zero visibility. Although radar is not specifically a weapon, its use by the PT boats made the other weapons much more effective. The did have small arms aboard but this did not include shotguns as they would not be useful for the type of combat anticipated by the crew.

Nut boy didn’t attack with torpedos, 50 cal machine guns, 40mm Bofors cannons, depth charges or a PT boat. He used a shotgun. I highly doubt his 64 year old weapons skills were of much use to any militia.

JACKoff

I admire your quick wit.

Sounds exactly like you liberals, EXACTLY!!!

So your entire argument is “I’m rubber and you’re glue.” Typical.

Tell me—why are conservatives so childish?

Rob Port has absolutely nothing common with ‘the terrorists’ and you goddam well know it, Hannitized.

You are an asshole for suggesting otherwise.

You guys doesn’t pertain to one person. it was lumping a group, or party.

You guys represents well more than 70% of you who justified the killing of the abortionist, by his terrorist, murdering killer.

YOU GUYS justified it. Looking at you liqwid.

You know damn well the term you guys is an expression.

And look at all the anti-gay hatred that exists on your side, the desire for religion to dictate government policy.

The similarities are many, compared to the left.

It was doomed because of a native population fighting on their soil for their freedom. It was a guerilla war which we couldn’t figure out how to fight.

Uh no, actually we WON Tet and it was the DEMOCRAT Congress that refused to give any sort of support for the SOUTH VIETNAMESE even if we pulled out of Vietnam. Also, it was our media that reported it as a loss and the supposed atrocities (John Kerry) that were perpetrated by our troops, thus eroding the resolve back at home.

That is how we lost the war.

As far as I’m concerned, people who commit violence as a way to advance their religious/political/philosophical agenda don’t belong to the “right” or the “left” but rather to a group all their own. They’re terrorists. Extremists. Murderers. Criminals. It doesn’t matter what their ideological beliefs are. If they’re willing to maim and murder for their cause, they’re in a league of their own.

I know,I know. Those pesky patriots that freed us from England’s tyranny Don’t count no more. All of whom fit that description.

I also understand that this guy was wrong to do what he did. I guess anyone can get turned to the libtards side.

I highly doubt his 64 year old weapons skills were of much use to any militia.

Tell it to the dead guard’s mother.

Tell it to the dead guard’s mother.

As usual you missed the point, his NAVAL skills were not in play, he used a shotgun.

Who was influenced by the poisoned minds of those who have collected together to share their poisonous viewpoints.

Oh geez, is Obama WHINING now?

Too bad it is Democrats that hate Jews. And is Rev Jeremiah Wright going to apologize for inciting this hate crime?

The muslim was an extremist murderer.

So, no generalization to all muslims? Why the double standard?

I don’t recall the DHS report mentioning anything about Holocaust denial or anti-semitism… or 89-year-old WWII vets.

And what right wing views has this guy espoused? I know he hates the Federal Reserve, but that’s because he sees it as a JOOOOO conspiracy to steal all our money… is he on record anywhere making a libertarian/conservative case for small government and free markets? I know he’s ranted about Obama, but he’s also ranted about Bush, and “Neocons”, and Bill O’Reilly, and on and on… he seems to hate pretty much everyone. Well, everyone but Adolph Hitler that is… and Hitler was a frigging socialist.

I wonder when the media will get around to pointing out that the killer was a journalist far more recently than he was a soldier. The headline of the story should be “Journo goes on shooting spree”, not “Vet goes on shooting spree”.

3,000:1 quite a large ratio. Where is the focus? On the 1. Or as Ann put it, 49,000,000:5

Sheppard Smith is an idiot.

there was no generalization except they were extremists.

Actually you lefties have more in common with terrorists and anti-semitism than anyone else. Virtually all violence against Jews including the extermination attempts during WWII were instigated by socialist/communist/Islamists. Even now there are repeated violent incidents against the Jews in socialist Europe and in Islamic nations.

You lefties here have repeatedly shown your incredible intolerance for anybody opposing your sick worldviews.

Thanks Rbby, thanks a lot.

“You can’t listen to Rush Limbaugh and get anything done.”

–Pres. Barak Obama

Well sure. Rush is terribly inconvenient for Obama’s agenda.

So are some churches…
Hannitized on June 11, 2009 at 01:18 pm

Agreed, the churches of Rev. Wright, Pfleiger and Farakhan have been very influential.

Who was influenced by the poisoned minds of those who have collected together to share their poisonous viewpoints
Hannitized on June 11, 2009 at 08:41 am.

Those mosques are obviously very influential.