Measure To Require ND Lawmakers To Read Bills Approved For Petition Circulation

I posted about this measure previously here, and the organizer of the petition movement Jerrol LeBaron will be on my radio show tonight at 8:00pm on AM1100 WZFG to talk about it.

BISMARCK, N.D. (AP) A proposed ballot measure says North Dakota legislators must read bills and post them on the Internet before any final votes are taken.
Retired Bismarck businessman David Wolfer (WOL’-fur) is chairman of the initiative’s sponsoring committee. He says the idea will ensure legislators are more familiar with state laws they’re putting on the books.
The measure also says the Legislature must post bills on the Internet for at least four days before a floor vote is taken in the House or Senate.

Critics of this measure have said that it’s unnecessary. That ND’s legislation is already posted online, and much of it is simple enough that there’s little question that most of the legislators vote on it have read it. Critics have also suggested that the time requirement for posting the bills online would be too burdensome in the state’s short bi-annual legislative session and would force legislators to begin the practice of combining more bills together for passage. Something that would be a move toward less transparency.
I don’t buy these concerns. I’m generally in favor of anything that makes the legislative process more arduous. I think most of our problems these days spring from the government doing too much. Not the government doing too little. And with news of late of legislators embedding so-called “trigger” spending in larger bills the concerns that this measure would spark a move toward decidedly non-transparent omnibus-style bills seem unfounded.
The legislators are already doing that.
I’m for this. Because though the legislative process in North Dakota is already very transparent, there are few statutes guaranteeing that it will stay that way. Something the “trigger spending” I’ve already alluded to would illustrate.
Though, granted, this is coming from someone who has been less than satisfied with the job performance of our legislature over the last sever legislative sessions.

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  • http://Array sayanything-7715

    It wouldn’t hurt to slow legislation down. Imaging how many more laws will be on the books in just another 50 years when every legislator it seems has an agenda to pass something personally when they head to Bismarck. This way only bills necessary for the running of the state have time to be dealt with and all the” do good, feel good” bills get lost in the shuffle.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Suppose the tide turns and Democrats take over the ND legislature again. I
    don’t mind them having to follow certain reasonable steps in order to pass
    legislation.

  • brenarlo

    I’ll bet anybody a dollar that legislators don’t read most of the bills that they sponsor.

  • sayanything-15427

    Government was INTENDED to work slowly, and besides; if you force them to read every bill then maybe we will stop getting 2000 page monstrosities that are impossible to get through let alone understand in a single sitting. Why is it the very founding documents of this country (Constitution/Bill of Rights) only needed a small fraction of that? Hell the unamended Constitution is less than 5,000 words!

  • sayanything-4141

    If Mr. LeBaron thinks this is such a great idea, he should use his own state as the guinea pig and test it out there.

  • sayanything-43

    Where are we going to find legislators who can read.

    They at least need to read Say Anything.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    A whole dollar?

    What’s controversial about having them read what they’re voting for?

    Will it really shut down the government?

  • sayanything-1317

    You still don’t get it. You continue to spout inanities.

    It isn’t to make me feel like government is my friend, or make me feel warm fuzzies inside.

    It’s to make it harder for bad bills to pass. And, no matter what nonsense you spout, this does that. It puts a waiting period on passing bills, and gives the public more of a chance to read and object to bills. And it makes it impossible to run a bill through without public scrutiny.

    So again, you ask the stupid question “Why don’t you just let them do their jobs?” Because I don’t want them passing bad bills that affect my life…that are virtually impossible to rescind. I don’t know how to explain it any simpler to you. And I don’t really understand why you keep telling me I can vote them out in two years…when this allows me to stop them NOW.

    You make no sense, and make me shake my head.

  • sayanything-4642

    yes, we have and the anit-government rhetoric is tiresome. heaven forbid we let people do their jobs……

    there is nothing stopping you from calling, emailing, writing letters or visiting them EVERY HOUR right now. nothing at all. to hear you is their job. if they suck at it, vote them out.

  • sayanything-4642

    yes, i do. you just dont like my answers because they dont agree with your world view.

    and trust me, neither of us is going to convince the other they are wrong. i think making more laws is foolish to cure an ill that does not exist is stupid. you think its dandy.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    I don’t like your answers because they’re usually knee-jerk and poorly thought out.

    But whatever. As Kenny points out, your suggestion that this law is unnecessary is laughable. It’s not easy to undo bad laws.

    Let’s make the bar for passing them higher.

  • sayanything-4642

    why do this half-assed? i think we should all get to vote on every bill. every 6 months we hold a state wide vote on everything.

    as i said before, this is more fluff and ‘i hate my government’ crap…… i hear everyones pain, but this kind of stuff is stupid…. if they are doing a bad job, burn them in the press and FIRE THEM when they come up for re-election. if we cant find ‘good’ people……. as well know there are lines out the door to run for office in this state…. /sarc…. pay them enough to justify their time.

  • sayanything-1341

    What a novel concept, read before you vote!

  • sayanything-1317

    This “let people do their jobs” rhetoric is the only thing I find tired.

    If I fail in my job, I can be replaced. Immediately. I am immediately accountable for my poor decisions on the job. My company can do damage control if the mistakes were bad. If politicians do a bad job and pass a damaging bill, it may not EVER get undone. Even if we replace them. And every two years, or four years, depending on the position, is not a realistic time limit to replace someone. If a politician does something awful, two years is an eternity. Four…even more so. Holding someone accountable for bad decisions years after the decision is no kind of damage control.

    See, this is the difference. A politician’s votes affect my life. They can take away my money, make my life harder, limit my freedoms, or even criminalize something trivial that lands me in jail. So, I’m not all about “let them be”.

    I’m sorry, I see no logic in your comments. Period. And I don’t think you do either.

  • sayanything-4642

    so, youre saying elections mean things? got it.

    as i told rob, if you think his bundle of joy is going to cure your anti-governemnt paranoia, youre kidding yourself. even if you make them post a bill on line and they sign a memo these people you dont trust will still screw you 6 ways from sunday. and when you replace them…… the next lady will do it as well….. according to you. maybe we should make them pinky swear on their moms graves? that would make ‘em super-sorry they lied to you……. again. let them do their jobs or run for office yourself and show us how its done. heck, i bet id vote for you!

    and if you want, i think you can still fire a government worker……
    “North Dakota became the first state to recall a governor when voters turned Lynn Frazier out of office in 1921. Frazier was recalled after an economic depression hit the area and a grassroots movement ousted him from office.”

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    I don’t think Jimmy spends much time thinking before he comments.

  • sayanything-4642

    if you dont trust them to do their jobs, remove them or you better start advocating for us to vote directly.

    face it, you are anti-government. you dont trust law makers to do their job. you never will. end of story. lets say your piece of fluff and hugs passes, they can EASILY lie about reading the bill. if you dont trust them now, how will you trust them later? and posting a bill online for another couple days will make the difference? please. if people care, they care now. and buying the folks that dont another day or even a month to read the bill wont change it.

    an example; how many times have you or the staff that work for you directly read the last published rendition of the health care bill? 5 times? 6? or none. maybe we need it online for another month….. im sure more folks will jump right online and read it.

  • sayanything-1317

    We’ve been over this before.

    It’s much easier to gum up a bad bill and keep it from being passed than it is to revoke it once it’s been enacted.

    Heaven forbid we want to keep bad bills from being passed.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    yes, we have and the anit-government rhetoric is tiresome. heaven forbid we let people do their jobs……

    So transparency, and requiring that they actually read the bills they pass into law, is anti-government?

    Again, maybe try thinking about what you’re saying.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    To hear some of the complaints I got last time I posted about this, you’d think it would cause our legislature to seize up completely.

    I think some of the concerns are valid, but really I don’t think this hurts a thing. If it makes the legislators grumpy, so what. They hate most every initiated measure anyway.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    why do this half-assed? i think we should all get to vote on every bill. every 6 months we hold a state wide vote on everything.

    No, for all the same reasons why the founding fathers opposed that sort of direct democracy.

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