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Monday, April 28, 2008


McCain Pulls A 180 And Goes After Obama On Wright

Does this mean he’ll be apologizing to the NCGOP?

  Senator John McCain delved on Sunday into remarks made by Senator Barack Obama’s former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., saying it was “beyond belief” that Mr. Wright had likened the Romans at the time of Jesus’ crucifixion to the Marines and had suggested that the United States was acting like Al Qaeda under a different color flag.

  Up to now, Mr. McCain had largely avoided talking about the incendiary views of Mr. Wright, saying he wanted to run a “respectful” campaign. He has even called on the North Carolina Republican Party to pull an advertisement that focuses on Mr. Wright.

  But Mr. McCain took a different approach at a news conference here when he criticized Mr. Wright for, as the senator paraphrased him, “comparing the United States Marine Corps with Roman legionnaires who were responsible for the death of our Savior, I mean being involved in that” and for “saying that Al Qaeda and the American flag were the same flags.” …

  Mr. McCain said that he did not believe that Mr. Obama, Democrat of Illinois, shared those views and that he was still against the advertisement in North Carolina. But he suggested that Mr. Obama had made the subject fair play by declaring in an interview shown over the weekend on “Fox News Sunday” that questions about Mr. Wright were “a legitimate political issue.”

I’m glad McCain has opted to go after Obama’s connections to Wright, just as I’m glad McCain has brought up Obama’s ties to William Ayers.  These topics speak to Obama’s character, philosophy and state of mind.  They’re important, and McCain should shine a light on them.

But this turn of events makes McCain’s chastising of the North Carolina GOP seem bizarre.  And it also opens him up to obfuscations along the lines of “I thought you were running a respectful campaign” from Obama’s camp (which far too often includes the media).  McCain will be susceptible to that given his criticism of others who have gone after Obama in the way he himself is now going after Obama.

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Telling one lie or even consistently lying about one subject…doesn’t make you a liar…

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I think the thing is that this was John McCain saying it.


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The Whistler on April 28, 2008 at 08:38 am
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These topics speak to Obama’s character, philosophy and state of mind.  They’re important, and McCain should shine a light on them.

So, what does it say Rob?  Why not listen to the Senator, when asked?  Why pretend that you did not get an answer?

OBAMA: All I was saying was — is that the fact that I know somebody, worked with them, have interactions with them, doesn’t mean that I’m endorsing what they say.

And, Chris, I’m sure you’ve got people who you serve on a board with or have dinner with who, you know, you would never expect to somehow have that seen as an endorsement of their views.

Now, you know, Mr. Ayers is a 60-plus-year-old individual who lives in my neighborhood, who did something that I deplore 40 years ago when I was 6 or 7 years old. By the time I met him, he is a professor of education at the University of Illinois.

We served on a board together that had Republicans, bankers, lawyers, focused on education. He worked for Mayor Daley, the same Mayor Daley, by the way, who, when he was a state’s attorney, prosecuted Mr. Ayers’ wife for those activities in the ‘60s.

So the point is that to somehow suggest that in any way I endorse his deplorable acts 40 years ago because I serve on a board with him…

OBAMA: No, no, no, no, no. The point I was making was that I’ve got a lot of — nobody is saying, “You know what? Barack — he’s got a bunch of Republican friends,” or, “He’s got a bunch of people who are considered on the religious right who he gets along with, who he shares stories with, who he does work with.”

The focus is on this one individual whose relations — with whom I have a relationship that is far more tangential than it is with somebody like a Tom Coburn, who I’m working with all the time, and who I consider a close friend, and yet that’s the relationship that gets the focus

But the strangest thing about Robs many comments on Obama, because he is so desperate to know him, is…why doesn’t he look at the things Obama has actually done?

OBAMA: Absolutely. And so the question becomes how do — how do voters draw conclusions about my values? Do they talk about — do they look at the 20 years in which I have devoted my life to community service?

Do they talk about the work I did as a community organizer working with Catholic parishes and churches to bring people together to set up job training programs for the unemployed and the poor? That’s a reflection of my values.

Do they look at how I’ve raised my children, and how I speak about my family? That’s a reflection of my values.

I don’t think that the issue of Reverend Wright is illegitimate. I just think that the way it was reported was not, I think, a reflection of both that church that I attend and who I am. I don’t think — let me just use another example.

On flag pins, you know, I’ve worn flag pins in the past. I will wear flag pins in the future. The fact that I said that some politicians use flag pins and then aren’t acting in a particularly patriotic way, for that to somehow be translated into me being antipatriotic or antiflag — I think that is a distraction.

I think that that is not reflective of me or the love that I have for this country. Keep in mind, I came on the scene nationally at the Democratic Convention, giving what I would say was about as patriotic a speech about what America means to me and what this country is about as any speech that we’ve heard in a long time.

Hannitized on April 28, 2008 at 10:17 am

For several weeks the Left has been excoriating McCain for his “well-known” temper.  Now the liberals who make outrageous and defamatory claims about the US military get to experience a restrained version of that temper up close and personal.  They would do well to heed the implicit warning.

No doubt they will try this tactic again, thinking that by provoking McCain’s anger they can diminish his public appeal.  What the Left does not understand (obviously, given Obama’s foolish “bitter” remarks in San Francisco) is that the majority does not share either their testosterone-diminished world view or their self-serving condescension.  Most Americans will only applaud John McCain’s public outrage at leftwing disparagement of America’s heroes.

And as an added bonus, McCain gets a “two-fer”, reinforcing his Christian credentials in the process against Obama’s spiritual mentor, Wright, whose theology and sermons most on the Right regard as anything but Christian.


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Bat One on April 28, 2008 at 10:23 am

Unless I am mistaken, Senator McCain raised the issues surrounding Rev. Jeremiah Wright as a result of, and after  Senator Obama declared late last week that it was a legitimate campaign issue.

Since it is Obama himself who has finally legitimized the issue, it will be difficult for the DNC or Obama’s campaign to accuse McCain of doing an about face.

McCain’s ‘chastising’ of the NC GOP was a PR gesture at best since he had already been informed that the State party would continue to run the ad whether he liked it or not.


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pparets on April 28, 2008 at 12:00 pm

Pandering to the left by insulting conservatives.

Something we normally would expect from the Clintons.


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The Whistler on April 28, 2008 at 12:02 pm

Since when did objecting to a political ad for being in bad taste become pandering?

Presidential candidates are always piously objected to such ads, knowing that the ads will be aired regardless.  Bush did it.  Kerry did it. Gore did it.  Cinton did it. Dole did it. Reagan did it.  They all do it.

But, why do you think it is such a big deal because McCain does it too, hmmm?


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pparets on April 28, 2008 at 12:21 pm

Since when did objecting to a political ad for being in bad taste become pandering?

Since he hadn’t even see the ad I think pandering was on his mind.

I remember GWB coming out against the swifties but don’t recall your other examples.  Don’t imagine you’ll refresh my memory.

I would be particularly interested when those folks did it in a way that was insulting to members of their own party to the degree McCain’s out of touch comment was.


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The Whistler on April 28, 2008 at 12:33 pm

Kerry disavows NAACP ad showing black man being dragged by a truck in Texas when Bush was Gov.

Bush disavows anti-Kerry ad.

Dole condemns anti-Clinton sex ad.

Clinton slams ‘nuclear mushroom cloud’ ad.

Reagan condemns Dukakis-in-the-tank ad; disavows Willy Horton ad.

BTW:  John McCain did not insult the NC GOP. He just said he wished they wouldn’t run the ad.


“Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other vews.

William F. Buckley Jr.

pparets on April 28, 2008 at 12:47 pm

Reagan condemns Dukakis-in-the-tank ad; disavows Willy Horton ad.

I think Reagan ran against Carter and Mondale, but point taken.

BTW:  John McCain did not insult the NC GOP. He just said he wished they wouldn’t run the ad.

I disagree.

“They’re not listening to me because they’re out of touch with reality and the Republican Party. We are the party of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan and this kind of campaigning is unacceptable,” McCain told NBC’s “Today” Show.


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The Whistler on April 28, 2008 at 12:51 pm

Gore disavowed the Texas truck-dragging ad.  My bad.


“Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other vews.

William F. Buckley Jr.

pparets on April 28, 2008 at 12:52 pm

Whistler:  Thank you for the McCain comments on the NBC Today Show.  I wouldn’t have said that, but it doesn’t rise to the level of ‘pandering’ to anyone.


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Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other vews.

William F. Buckley Jr.

pparets on April 28, 2008 at 12:58 pm

No, saying that someone is out of touch with reality is insulting, not pandering. 

Of course I would considering insulting one side to possibly be pandering to the other.


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The Whistler on April 28, 2008 at 01:01 pm

Language bad. 

Try I would consider insulting one side to be possibly pandering to the other.


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The Whistler on April 28, 2008 at 01:03 pm
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But Mr. McCain took a different approach at a news conference…

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