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I used to think that was a given, Kevin . . . but the Repubs have moved farther and farther away from that, and we are all the worse for it.

I listen to Mark’s radio show all the time he is fed up with the empty suits that have filled out congress and senate. Mark like many of us are not happy with the Republican parties nomination for president and are waiting to see who he is going to run with for president. IF McCain doesn’t pick a good conservative candidate I am as well as many other conservative are going to stay home and not vote, or we could leave the spot open. I don’t like Ron Barr either so maybe I will write in Rob.

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Back when the GOP was swept into power in 1994 Americans thought they knew what they were getting.  Low-tax, limited-government, lower-spending, transparent-politics, pro-liberty leaders.  What they got was politics as usual, and now Republicans are being punished for it.

To be fair, for quite some time, the GOP DID actually give what they promised. Lower welfare rolls, lower taxes, etc. Bush helped turn the GOP around to what we dislike nowadays.

Which they’ve almost assuredly done now with Barack Obama.

I’m still convinced Hillary will pull it out.

When the RNC-GOP has been infiltrated and subornated to the extent that it is the false choice for Conservatives, e.g. they are in fact, RINO’s, then I fully agree that it is time for a free, reborn Conservative Party.

As for me, I am voting for Barr, come hell or high water.  I will be damned if I will vote for McCain—not when he shows no signs from deviating from his Amnesty for Illegals and Rah Rah Global Warming Legislation schtick.

ADMIN NOTE:  Sorry folks, for being away so long—work in the Real World has been keeping me very busy lately.

...for great justice

To be fair, for quite some time, the GOP DID actually give what they promised. Lower welfare rolls, lower taxes, etc. Bush helped turn the GOP around to what we dislike nowadays.

Bush has spent money like a druken sailor and now because of his unpopularity we run risk of being a minority party for a very long time.

Check out:
Goon’s North Dakota Red Neck
Goon’s World

A vote for Bob Barr is a vote for Barack Obama.

...And a vote for McCain is a vote telling the GOP leadership to continue compromising on their principles and values because in the end the conservative base is just too afraid of the “other” guy to demand better candidate.

If that is the case, why should they even bother to listen at all?

Ken McCracken on May 15, 2008 at 12:34 am

I whole-heartedly agree.

Everyblog I go, I read/receive the same comments:

“… not voting for McCain is a vote for BO.  You’d be a traitor to your party[/the country]!”, “BO will destroy the country - by his SCOTUS picks, the laws he’ll ask for, ... [etc]” are a fair sample.

My favorite was when, on supplying links to McCain video, along with links to credible sources like the Congressional Record, I was told: “You are an extremeist[sic] faux-conservative!  If you were really a Conservative, you’d quit your sh**y whining because your candidate lost!  You’d realize that McCain is really a mainstream Conservative!  You social conservatives disgust me!  You’d realize that the Republican Party isn’t here to be your puppet, we have to support our leaders decisions!  The Islamofacists will come here because the Dems will pull out of the M.E.!” This remained posted for 4 days after my post was deleted w/o comment 12hrs after I posted it.

I won’t mention the blog, excet to say that it is a major “Rightwing” blog.  I do notice that a lot of thoughtful anti-McCain pieces disappear, while the looney-tunes ones are kept and ridiculed by the blog owner.

I’m not posting this to point fingers, just to provide background for my comment later on.

Having thought about this, putting my emotions aside, I have decided that one point they raise has merit:

Not voting for McCain may mean the end of the Republic.

While I’ll grant that point, I feel compelled to point out that, if we are on such shakey ground, voting for McCain will end the Republic.  The views the 3 candidates operate under lack enough differentiation to produce a discernable difference in outcome.

And I have other obligations.  I am a man who after an active 25yr search, found God.  I know that I will be called upon to justify my actions after this life. 

Because of these 2 items I will not cast a vote for McCain.

- martin.musculus

Dear Host:

I am on a PDA, if you decide, for whatever reason, to delete my post, please let me know so I might ask someone w/a PC to get a copy.  It’s your home - your rules, but please, I like to keep copies of my thoughts in order to refine them when I am able.

Thank you.

- martin.musculus

I am on a PDA, if you decide, for whatever reason, to delete my post, please let me know so I might ask someone w/a PC to get a copy.

Posts/comments aren’t deleted here as long as they’re not a) spam or b) porn or c) illegal somehow (threats, etc.).

If you want to post more of your thoughts, get a reader blog (link on the sidebar) and post away.

Also, are you using the mobile version of the blog on your PDA?

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

Rob’s recently listened-to songs:

I was using the mobile SayAnything the other day and it works great.  Thanks for making that available.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

Yeah, the mobile version is a real nice feature. I use it a lot on my wife’s iPhone. Loads up so much quicker (especially since I’m stuck using the “Edge” rather than 3G).

Join my “thanks!” too for providing the mobile verson.

I do have an acct @ sayanything, but I can’t access my acct on from my LifeDrive.  I enter the log-in and it doesn’t know me.  When I do it from a PC, it’s fine.

I sometimes use the mobile version of SayAnything.  2/3 of the time it cause a reset of the Blazer 2x browser.  I know the LifeDrive is misbegotten & unsupported by Palm, but I have what I have… until a solid linux unit comes out, or my LDrv explodes I’m making the best of it.

Thank you again.  Oh, time to go!

- martin.musculus

It’s probably Rob’s fault.

What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.

IF McCain doesn’t pick a good conservative candidate I am as well as many other conservative are going to stay home and not vote, or we could leave the spot open.

Good, I completely agree.  I also listen to Mark on a regular basis and will not vote for McCain unless he picks a solid VP running mate. I will vote but will probably leave the president open or write in someone.  As a conservative before being a republican I will not just get in line and follow someone who is only slightly better than the liberal democrats.

A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.

IF McCain doesn’t pick a good conservative candidate I am as well as many other conservative are going to stay home and not vote, or we could leave the spot open.

We need to vote.  Local races through the state level will help to solve the problems of the type we Conservatives find ourselves in.

BTW:
Please don’t leave the “President” space blank.  I remember during Florida 2000, empty spaces were often interpreted as a vote for Gore — regardless of the other votes on that ballet!

McCain has issues… there is no doubt about that… but he is nowhere near to the most liberal member of the senate, Barack Obama, or his potential running-mate, John Edwards, the second most liberal.

McCracken said it right:

A vote for Bob Barr is a vote for Barack Obama.

Sitting home does the same thing. 

... Unless you could look forward to George Soros and Eli Pariser sitting at White House dinners.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

… Unless you could look forward to George Soros and Eli Pariser sitting at White House dinners.

Well.....

For those who haven’t figured out that there has long been a McCain-Soros connection…

and

John McCain: George Soros’ Useful Idiot?

and

John McCain Gets Soros Cash

and

Through The Weeds; John McCain, George Soros and the Reform Institute

and

John McCain funded by Soros since 2001

A vote for Barr is a vote for Barr.

A vote for McCain is voting for Soros and his Leftist coterie. 

But ya know what?  I will vote for McCain, under two conditions:

1) he select as running mate either Ann Coulter or John R. Bolton, and;

2) upon being sworn in, have his debilitating heart attack.

See.  I can be reasonable.

...for great justice

Rob - Posts/comments aren’t deleted here as long as they’re not a) spam or b) porn or c) illegal somehow (threats, etc.).

One more - duplicate comments.

I usually erase those as I see them.

Move_Zig:  That’s just crap!  You’ve said it all before - over and over - meanwhile Obama is steamrolling toward the White House.  Is that what you want?

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

Let’s examine this point-counter-point…

PP say…

Sitting home does the same thing.
... Unless you could look forward to George Soros and Eli Pariser sitting at White House dinners.

MZ posts links showing McCain has been dancing to Soros’ tune since about 2000.

PP responds…

That’s just crap!

Dude, you’re out of ammo. 

You do what you want.  That’s your prerogative.

But don’t tell piss down our backs and tell us it’s raining.  McCain is a stealth-Leftist.  Others can vote for him, but I will not.  I am sick to death of a GOP which has steadily crept Left and has more in common with Gloria Steinem and the ACLU that its own constituency. 

McCain has given us a documented track record of what he does and its a pretty good predictor of what he will do if elected.

He’s taking up the space better occupied by a real Conservative and if voted in, he will cause more damage than good.  In my posts I’ve given my theories supported by links, so I won’t repost them here.

You continue to shill for this Leftist, which makes me doubt your ability to assimilate outside data and particularly makes me wonder what you believe which makes you Conservative.

I need something to vote for.  I don’t see it in McCain.

...for great justice

Actually, Cal Thomas speaks cogently on this very issue in his recent GOP: GET BACK

In 1977, Ronald Reagan spoke of principles that transcend eras: ”We, the members of the New Republican Party, believe that the preservation and enhancement of the values that strengthen and protect individual freedom, family life, communities and neighborhoods and the liberty of our beloved nation should be at the heart of any legislative or political program presented to the American people. Our task now is not to sell a philosophy, but to make the majority of Americans, who already share that philosophy, see that modern conservatism offers them a political home .... The job is ours and the job must be done. If not by us, who? If not now, when? Our party must be the party of the individual. It must not sell out the individual to cater to the group. No greater challenge faces our society today than ensuring that each one of us can maintain his dignity and his identity in an increasingly complex, centralized society.”

For Republicans to win - and be worthy of winning - they need to get back to where they belong.

...for great justice

and

GOP in danger of becoming ‘Pelosi-lite’

A top House Republican yesterday said the leadership must steer disheartened rank-and-file members from adopting a centrist or “Pelosi-lite” agenda and instead reaffirm conservative principles, or risk deepening the political grave the party dug for itself under President Bush.

The job of the conference right now is to not allow us to slip into [saying] we’re going to just be like them. We’re going to go and just be Pelosi-lite and go with their solutions and try and slip by this election,” said Rep. Eric Cantor of Virginia, the Republican chief deputy whip.

Mr. Cantor, in an interview with editors and reporters at The Washington Times, acknowledged that too many Republicans willingly cast votes in line with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat.

And so on. 

Laura Ingraham gets it.

Rush Limbaugh gets it.

I don’t know if McCain gets it and I certainly don’t think that the RNC has gotten it.

Case in point, after the shooting down (twice) of the shambling corpse of Amnesty for Illegal Aliens, which McCain, Martinez and Bush pushed so hard for, and in defense of which, accused Americans who resisted that disastrous abomination of legislation, bigots and worse—appointed Mel Martinez to replace the failed Ken Mehlman.

Talk about not getting the message.

Then McCain, after getting pummeled by questions about Amnesty in Town Meeting after Town Meeting, hires a Mexican lobbyist for his his hispanic outreach staffer.

Think he has learned his lesson on Amnesty?

DUH!  Hell no.  This man is thick-headed and stubborn, which can be good if he is looking after America’s best interest, but in this instance, it is Mexico’s best interests he is looking after.

You want me to vote for the guy who has repeatedly signaled that he is poised to open the floodgates from a failed state whose major export to the US is a brown tide of humanity who hate America, love Mexico and kill 25 Americans a day?

Don’t hold your breath.

...for great justice

MZ,

Larry Kudlow certainly gets it:

Kudlow: Congressman Cantor, thank you for coming on, we appreciate your time. I want to start with you. The only thing worse that I can think of for the GOP, than having 100 Republicans vote for this farm bill – which is just an unmitigated disaster – is the fact that you all have not read Vito Fossella out of the caucus. That, I think, is even worse. One is a financial and political issue. The other is a moral and ethical issue. Both are undermining the Republican brand, Eric. What’s your response please?

Rep. Eric Cantor: Larry it’s good to be with you. Larry there’s no question right now that the public is questioning where Republicans are, and what we stand for. You mentioned the farm bill. I too believe that is probably one of the worst votes that anyone could take. There was so much pork in there. There was so much special interest politics at play. And frankly, when you’re giving farmers who could potentially make $2.5 million dollars as a couple, and still get government aid, while we have plenty of uninsured, real uninsured people out there who can’t get government assistance, I think there is a serious problem with Washington. But you know look, we have got a lot of challenges. We’ve only got six months before the general election. What the Republicans need to do, what we’ve got to do is get our message out.

Kudlow: But Eric… I do not see how the Republican brand recovers when you have a chap like Vito Fossella, whom I’ve known for a long time, you’ve known him for a long time – who knew what he was up to? But now that we know what he was up to. Heavy drinker with literally two families – literally two families… I don’t see on ethical and moral grounds, how the House Republican caucus cannot take the sternest possible action to push him out of the caucus and send him a message you must resign. In other words, Vito has to go. This Vito Fossella story is becoming a national laughingstock…

Rep. Eric Cantor: Larry look, there’s no question this isn’t good for the brand. There’s no question that what had happened there is just, you know, unfathomable to many Americans. Vito’ s got some decisions to make. I believe he will make them quickly and we will be able to go forward. And frankly, we need a lot of work. And we’ve got very little time in order to repair our brand.

Kudlow: Jerry Bowyer, is it enough for Vito Fossella to make up his mind, or would it be better if the Republican leadership showed some real spine, principle, moral and ethics, and made a decision for Fossella?

Bowyer: They need to shove him out. He should make the decision right now to leave. And if he doesn’t make that decision, they should show him the door.

Kudlow: I mean, to some extent Eric, this is a rerun of what happened in 2006. It is. It’s a rerun of the whole business of the congressman in Florida and the pages.

Bowyer: Mark Foley.

Kudlow: And not just Mark Foley, but the way the leadership handled it. The way Mr. Hastert handled it. Slowly, haltingly – there seemed to be an undertone that he knew more than he was letting on. You’re in that kind of box, sir. And I think you’ve got to take stern action right now.

Rep. Eric Cantor: Well listen, I appreciate that Larry. And you know, it is symptomatic of the situation that we find ourselves here, that we’re even talking about this kind of stuff, which is exactly why the Republican brand is where it is.

So too does Donny Baseball:

The Republican Party’s basic problem is they have broadly abandoned their principles in a stunningly self-imposed destructive spiral downward. No one man could possibly achieve the level of cluelessness, denial, and cynicsm that has been the cause of Republican woes. It took a village...of idiots…

Drilling in ANWR. The Republican dominated Sausage Factory couldn’t push that through. Tax cuts. I’ve enjoyed them, but they’re expiring thanks to their squishiness. Now they’re scrambling to bail out people who made bad home-buying decisions. Still (still!) you want to spend billions on obnoxiously inefficient and distortionary farm and energy bills. All the while resisting any and every attempt to hold themselves to basic standards of accountability and transparency. Well, the ultimate accountability mechanism is in the offing - getting booted from office.

I, and many others like me, have been and would be ‘money in the bank’ votes for Republicans this November if it weren’t for the embarrassing and frustrating Republican congress of the last 10 years. These Republicans have sawed off the small government leg of the stool that Reagan built. If I could “hit replay” and redo the last eight years with either George W. Bush or the Republican congress, I’d cashier the bozos in the Sausage Factory and keep GWB.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Holy Fruitflies Batman!—You’re absolutely correct!

Yet another voice crying out from the wilderness:

“The reason [Republicans are] losing,” Shirley said, “is not because everybody in America has, all of a sudden, fallen in love with the Democratic Party. They’re losing because so (many members) of their own base are sitting on their hands or voting for the other guy in protest, simply because they’re so angry with their own party. They feel like their own party has abandoned them.”

-- House GOP Outlook ‘Worst Since Watergate,’ Says Rep. Davis, By Evan Moore, CNSNews.com Correspondent
May 20, 2008

If there is to be any hope for us, it will be that McCain steps aside and someone the likes of Bob Barr, Newt Gingrich or Fred Thompson steps up to bat as the pinch hitter.  Damn!  Talk about a sweeping change of fortune.

Unfortunately, I am far too realistic to hope against such hope.

Like someone’s tagline succinctly states: we are so screwed in this election.

...for great justice