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Saturday, April 26, 2008


Male Stripper In Britain Prosecuted For Carrying Night Stick

Because a billy club is an “offensive weapon.”

Three judges have ruled that a male stripper who dresses as a policeman can use a real truncheon in his act.

Stuart Kennedy, a student whose stage name is Sgt Eros, was arrested on his way to an engagement in Aberdeen by two female police officers.

They watched his performance in a city pub to confirm his explanation for wearing a police uniform before he was charged with carrying an offensive weapon.

A sheriff threw out the charge at a lower court amid widespread criticism of the Crown for pursuing the case, but prosecutors decided to appeal against the ruling.

In America we battle over gun control.  In Great Britain they’re battling over whether or not it’s allowable for citizens to even carry a stick that could possibly be used to hit someone else.

What’s next?  Prosecutions for unlawful possession of a fork?  After all, those tines are pretty sharp.

On a related note, here’s a line from the British paper’s article on this story that you’d never seen in an American publication:

At the Court of Appeal in Edinburgh, it was suggested that if only his truncheon had been floppy, he could have avoided any trouble with the law.

Most of the time I’m pretty glad I’m not British.

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This merely reflects the mentality of blaming the implement rather than the person.

England bought into the theory of gun control after the Dunblane Massacre. 

So they banned guns and crime went up.  So they banned knives and crime went up.  Now they’re banning sticks.

It’s crazy but the lefty loser liberals will never admit they’re wrong so they’re stuck with this kind on nonsense.


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The Whistler on April 26, 2008 at 07:18 am

was detained by two female officers on his way to a job in Aberdeen.

He was wearing a uniform and carrying a mock CS gas spray and a side-handle baton.

The female officers did watch him strip,
for purely law enforcement reasons.
No report on the offenders personal stick ?

Don’t you know the crime rate is going up, up, up, up, up

WOOF on April 26, 2008 at 07:24 am

How far the once might British empire has fallen, from a nation of adventurwrs and inventors to a nation of wimps.  Blame liberalism/socialism for neutering society into a mass of mindless defenseless subservient robots.


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docdave on April 26, 2008 at 08:47 am
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What’s next?  Prosecutions for unlawful possession of a fork?  After all, those tines are pretty sharp.

Rob,

Ok, the day you can pick up a scoop of rice with two billy clubs, like you would using chopsticks you might have a point.

Until then, you are hanging your hat on a pretty thin reed.

How far the once might British empire has fallen, from a nation of adventurwrs and inventors to a nation of wimps.  Blame liberalism/socialism for neutering society into a mass of mindless defenseless subservient robots.

Hey, way to contribute.  “Liberals fault”.  Did you think of that one all by yourself?

Good thing you are here as the intellectual superior, and I am merely a lowly non-contributor.  Otherwise, how would i have learned something so substantial about this issue?

Hannitized on April 26, 2008 at 09:54 am

Hannitized, you’ve yet failed to demonstrate you’re capable of learning anything.


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Ok, the day you can pick up a scoop of rice with two billy clubs, like you would using chopsticks you might have a point.

Until then, you are hanging your hat on a pretty thin reed.

So…you’re saying you’re in favor of a ban on billy clubs?

Am I going to have to get a permit for my softball bats?


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I think it’s Hannitized “floppy truncheon” that distracts him from real learning!


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Proof on April 26, 2008 at 10:05 am
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So…you’re saying you’re in favor of a ban on billy clubs?

Am I going to have to get a permit for my softball bats?

Thats not much of an argument Rob.  The softball bat has another purpose, billy-clubs have only one.

When you see someone walking down the street with Billy-club, what crosses your mind?  Gee, that lad is off to have himself a great game of cricket?

I see no point in having a billy-club.

Hannitized on April 26, 2008 at 10:15 am
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Hannitized, you’ve yet failed to demonstrate you’re capable of learning anything.

Ok.  Talk to me about the nitrogen cycle.

Or how about virtualizing storage in addition to the server?  Got any ideas on setting policies that meet SOX compliance?

Hannitized on April 26, 2008 at 10:17 am

The softball bat has another purpose, billy-clubs have only one.

Normally I would say two, but in this case three.

1) Protection
2) Attack

and 3 in this special case: as a stage prop.

#1 is far more important than #2 and recent history in United Kingdom has pretty much proven that.


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The Whistler on April 26, 2008 at 10:18 am
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1) Protection : Beating Someone with a stick
2) Attack : Beating someone with a stick

Congratulations Whistler, you discovered nuance.  Don’t loose that skill when it is actually useful and necessary now.

Hannitized on April 26, 2008 at 10:26 am

Demonstrating your lack of knowledge again?  There are many other uses of a baton including blocking strikes as well as using in takedowns and restraints.

Or do you support the police carrying a tool that is only good for beating someone’s head in.


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The Whistler on April 26, 2008 at 10:35 am
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Demonstrating your lack of knowledge again?  There are many other uses of a baton including blocking strikes as well as using in takedowns and restraints.

What I dont understand is how you think this nuance makes a difference?  What are you going to say when your son or daughter comes home with a busted nose or some kind of injury because another person used a baton in a “defensive” action?

It’s going to be an intimidating device that is not necessary.  When an argument arises and some kid walks up with a billy-club to “argue” with you…that is sort of intimidating and it will eventually lead to trouble.

Hannitized on April 26, 2008 at 10:51 am

Nice bit of ignoring that you were way wrong about the use of such weapons.

I think most of the civilians that carry a “club” are people that are on the road a lot like truckers.  They aren’t looking for trouble but feel that they’ve got a chance if they get jumped by several guys.

I feel no safer having the police harass them because the actual criminals are going to be armed in some way as they go about their crimes.

And it’s proven that if you disarm the law abiding you take away the risks from criminals and get more criminal activity. 

The United Kingdom where this story is coming out of is a perfect example of that.


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The Whistler on April 26, 2008 at 11:12 am
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The softball bat has another purpose, billy-clubs have only one.

That still doesn’t justify a ban.

I see no point in having a billy-club.

So because you don’t see a point to owning one, even though other commenters have identified the reasons for owning one, it should be banned?

What are you going to say when your son or daughter comes home with a busted nose or some kind of injury because another person used a baton in a “defensive” action?

Well that depends. If it was truly defensive in nature, I’ll tell my son he got what he deserved for attacking another individual. If it wasn’t really defensive, or an overly excessive use of force, I’ll press criminal charges and file a lawsuit. What I won’t do is whine like a bitch and have everyone else’s club taken away just because one individual used their club unlawfully.

When an argument arises and some kid walks up with a billy-club to “argue” with you…that is sort of intimidating and it will eventually lead to trouble.

Yes it is intimidating. But banning a billy-club won’t do anything. That kid will just use a baseball bat or some other blunt instrument.

Andrew on April 26, 2008 at 11:13 am

Hannitized,

Why don’t you focus on the SayAnything surfing section where you might actually have something you can comment on about which you have the first clue?


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Rodney Graves on April 26, 2008 at 11:21 am

Ok, the day you can pick up a scoop of rice with two billy clubs, like you would using chopsticks you might have a point.

That is if you can buy rice.  Liberals great alternative fuels has already caused shortages and rationing is just beginning.

Ok.  Talk to me about the nitrogen cycle.

Talk to me about the Brayton cylce, or disassociation of exhaust gases after a standard combustion cycle.  See, I can do it too.  What does nitrogen have to do with British weapon legislation?

If guns continue to be demonized like they are and the Supreme Court doesn’t follow the Constitution and rule that people have a right to own guns this could be the U.S. in a couple decades.  Scary



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dougee on April 26, 2008 at 03:50 pm
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I think most of the civilians that carry a “club” are people that are on the road a lot like truckers.  They aren’t looking for trouble but feel that they’ve got a chance if they get jumped by several guys.

I believe the discussion is about walking around carrying a weapon in public.  Does it not?

Can you give me an example of when a trucker is in danger?  Are you talking about carrying a club in your truck?

If so, carry a bat, a golf club, A TIRE IRON.  There are countless alternatives.

I feel no safer having the police harass them because the actual criminals are going to be armed in some way as they go about their crimes.

So youre saying people should walk around carrying billyculbs in the event of a robbery?  If a criminal has a gun, a billy club isn’t going to help anything except for probably get you shot.

Nice bit of ignoring that you were way wrong about the use of such weapons.

It was still a violent use of a weapon.  What are you talking about?

Hannitized on April 26, 2008 at 04:07 pm

Can you give me an example of when a trucker is in danger?

If the world is such a safe place as you seem to state, why should anyone have to give you examples? Why don’t YOU prove otherwise by taking a cross country road trip and save money by avoiding H/Motel expenses by sleeping in your vehicle at rest areas? Willing to rise to your challenge? Myself, I didn’t when I was younger and more free spirited, I packed a S&W model 629 .44 magnum with me when I traveled. I still have that gun.


At least when George Bush was reading My Pet Goat, he genuinely had no idea Manhattan was being terrorized. And it wasn’t by his own plane.

Spartacus on April 26, 2008 at 04:20 pm
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If the world is such a safe place as you seem to state, why should anyone have to give you examples?

Did you land on your feet when you jumped to that conclusion?

I never said the world was a safe place.  The dude could carry a bat, a chain, a golf club.  Why does it have to be a billy club?

I mean, i don’t even care if anybody really has a billy club.  I just dont want people walking around in public with them.

shrug

Hannitized on April 26, 2008 at 04:27 pm
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You all that aren’t as SMART as I just don’t understand how SAFE everywhere in the world is and for that you dumb people think you need to carry protection in the form of a stick!  Ban sticks!  Ban anything I find unnecessary!  I am smart!  What type of stripper needs a billy club!?  A cop stripper? There is no such thing! Ban EVERYTHING!

Olbermanized on April 28, 2008 at 01:41 am
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“What’s next?  Prosecutions for unlawful possession of a fork?  After all, those tines are pretty sharp.”

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