Thanks, ellinas. I have talked with several people who have had their time wasted by the “ralph nader” solution to tire pressure. Once again, personal responsibility and intelligence would have solved this problem, but Noooooo…

but because the suffering of the people is necessary for them to be victorious, and for them to stay in power.

And we can always count on the republicans to bring the people that suffering. That’s what we’re about to see in the coming years after 30 years of conservative dominance.

Do enjoy. Tell your kids to enjoy their diminished future too.

1984. We have always been at war with ________ (fill in the blanks). They have trouble with math since “everyday math” has been introduced to government schools.

Nor was I aware that we are talking about the “New Deal” or the Great society.

And that’s very telling!

Now you may continue to go on blaming Republicans for the increasing spending (and to be sure, they can legitimately be blamed for a lot of it), all the while blindsided as to what most of the spending is.

Forgive me for being current.

You weren’t being current.

The alternative is to bankrupt the country, and if we don’t force the politicians to do the right thing, we are fucked.

*shrugs* That’s what your side of the political aisle wants. America’s enemies are cheering it all on. Surprise*surprise – they wanted Barack Obama. How about that?

Don’t blame me. I’m not the one who endorses massive government Ponzi Schemes and then blames everybody else when it is shown not to work. That’s you and your side.

Now sit and tell me how much more I need to pay for your ideological mistakes. Be sure to heavily lay on some of that infamous guilt trip. It’s all you’ve got left.

No “change in tune”, e liar!

robert108 on January 25, 2009 at 03:08 pm

Sure there is a change in the tune.
Because a simp like you is denying it, does not make it so.
When our economy started crumbling, and people were pointing at the obvious you had your head buried deep in the sand, arguing with everybody that it was only the housing market and that market was only a small part of our economy.
You sir cannot distinguish your head from your ass, much less talk about the economy.
Again, you demonstrate your ignorance.

The last seven out of eight years were decent economically with an average 3.5% growth annually. It took a lot of mistakes made by government, especially congress and a couple past administrations to get us where we are now. The private sector did not create the economic meltdown, government meddling did. Capitalism is not the demon. Americans want a balanced play field, not government mandated mediocrity.

Obama’s stimulus package is all about re establishing power back into government hands and not the public sector.

The Republicans should hold their ground with the goal of taking back some seats and hopefully killing any hope for Obama’s re election in 2012.

It’s all a moot point anyways. It doesn’t seem like you care. It’s all a partisan game to too many of you.

likwidshoe on January 25, 2009 at 03:52 pm

An assumption about me not based in reality.

Ah Mickey. Dreaming again!

The growth was like taking out 100 charge card accounts with nothing to pay them off with.

That’s how republicans run an economy.

because they squandered an opportunity to pay down the national debt:

moot point. The debit will double with the $800 billion bail out plan.

Clinton also shifted funds that traditionally went to the military to pay down the deficit. Robbing Peter to pay Paul is typical state style management which explains why so many states now have multi billion dollars deficits.
Clinton also was the benefactor of the Regan economy.

The retro Hoover and FDR policies will flop just like they did the first time around.

Wow…

overcompensating lousy rodent elinas and the winy bitch and “…pathetic old homosexual” and NAMBLA supporter share an understanding of economics a mile wide and a quarter inch deep.
What else they share we just don’t want to know.

Rodney Graves on January 26, 2009 at 08:31 am

We would like to share with the rest of the readers and bloggers here at SAB that you are a racist.
We would also like to share with the rest that youare a bully, and when you fail to get your point across you threaten people with physical harm.
But you already knew that, Rodney “Weasel” Graves. Didn’t you?

Assistance???? I don’t want or need any assistance from the Socialist programs & world you so deeply desire, Dino. You are the one who wants My assistance and My Tax$$$$$$ dollars to support your lazy worthless self. I am a giver, not a taker. It is such a worthwhile feeling to be able to support yourself and be able to give to charities. You should try it sometime. Big Govt. is NOT Charity. We don’t need bigger Govt. Our country needs businesses to prosper so people have the ability to work. We don’t need another corrupt Socialist Program that takes from the hard working individuals in our country. We have plenty of them as it is. AND we certainly don’t need another Bail Out filled with Socialist Pork.

The major damage to this country was done from 2000-2007 while bush ruled with a republican Congress. Bush took the worst ideas of reagan and made them viral. Even before that, all through the 90s, the republicans crowed about the elections they won, how they dominated the agenda, how the democrats were disappearing, how the country was then firmly conservative. So they pursued a very conservative agenda set up by reagan’s “conservative revolution”.

Are you going to tell me that we pursued any form of liberalism in the past 30 years? We haven’t had a liberal leader sincve LBJ!

So now we sit in economic ruin and the same bragging republicans want to blame the people they claimed had no power over the time the bubbles were building.

Disingenuous at best.

People like Zsa Zsa refuse to read the facts about who led us down the path of ruin, who destroyed the economic system, who promoted bad loan practices. It’s profound ignorance and denial all rolled into one.

The real culprit is the American people who voted republican all those years. There should be a way to direct any assistance AWAY from those people and let them fend for themselves, let them beg for help and not get it.

First it’s revision history, both Europe’s and the United States…ie Hilter good, Reagan bad, communism and socialism both worked/capitalism never worked, just a lot of cow turds from a bunch of liberal scumbags.

Tax receipts normally go up during good to normal times due to the growth in the economy so your data is meaningless. But if you follow that line of reasoning, Federal receipts went up even more when Clinton RAISED taxes. Like Ellinas said, look at how that debt DOUBLED and tell us how good the bush fiscal policies were. With a straight face, if possible.

But hey, if you want to try and convince people that we just came off a good 8 year run for the economy, the debt and budget deficits, go for it.

I think it might be a hard sell.

Ellians, I actually do know a little German. I just am not in it fluent though.

Exposing the unsound practices with liberal encouragement to make sub standard loans for decades to people who had no way of paying them is what GW Bush is most guilty of. Interesting how liberal Dems such as Barney Frank etc… are off the hook. Instead we have the idiotic, mindless rants of individuals like Dino, who have swallowed the obsessive liberal media spin and lies that it is all the ” Conservatives fault.” Unfortunately this house of cards tumbled on GW Bush’s watch. When in actuality these careless practices should have been stopped decades ago. Now that Fannie and Freddie have been exposed for what they are accountability should be taken. BUT as usual the liberals crawl under their rocks and slide down into their holes and will emerge as blameless victors. AND as usual the liberal media still has yet to point the finger at the Liberals who encouraged this mess.

Centrists. Republican-lite.

Southern democrats are not liberals.

Your economic illiteracy astounds.

Rob on January 25, 2009 at 02:45 pm

Your economic illiteracy astounds. Since the we did not rein in spending, the tax cuts were ill advised, and the result was a national debt that has surpassed even Reagan’s.
No amount of propaganda from simps will change that fact.
As you have said before the republicans under Bush were not good stewards of our economy.
I wonder why you are changing your tune now?

No “change in tune”, e liar! Cutting marginal tax rates helped the economy grow, and reducing spending would have made it even better. Pandering RINOs obviously thought they could play both sides, when they should have followed the tax rate cuts with cuts(real cuts, not decreases in the rates of increase) in wasteful social spending.
Deficits are always about overspending, and PBO promises to eclipse even the former Spendocrats in that respect, without the relief of marginal tax rate cuts.

Again, you demonstrate your ignorance.

Borrowing to facilitate tax cuts…

That’s not the way it works, idiot! Deficits are always about excessive spending, or as you might be able to understand it, “living beyond your means”, which is what greedy govt does.

More ignorance from you, liar e.

They did this same thing with Reagan, Bush Sr., and Bush Jr. now. Remember when actual recorded materials surfaced of JFK, the liberal idol and demigod the new messiah elect is supposed to be the reincarnation of, that JFK was a low tax low spending small government sort and hit upon nearly every point Reagan would years later, how the left howled, “how dare you even mention his name?! What gives you the right?!”

It made me recall that episode of Star Trek: Next Generation, The Drumhead, where Picard quotes a judge regarding the legal rights of the individual and his daughter playing the absolute psycho witch leading the proceedings takes the same attitude. “How dare you?!”

How dare we? How dare you, you lying sniveling leftist twits? How dare you constantly sell what you yourselves know to be a lie, just to further yourselves? How dare you refuse to face the hard numbers recorded robotically and unemotionally by bean counting automatons? You lie about everything. About how economics works in the face of human nature recorded for more than six thousand years. About how physics works in the face of scientific experiment and mathematical formulas recorded in millions of books and journals. About pretty much anything and everything in your fanatic desire to be right.

The economy is right now, not in any danger other than that of doomsayers like yourselves, encouraging all and sundry not to engage in the economic flow that is the essence of the economy. It’s very lifeblood you would have choked off, in order to be right. In order to get your way, you would see people unemployed, homeless, hungry, disaffected, estranged, angry, frustrated, and hopeless.

The left are slime not different from Nazis, Communists, Islamic Supremacists, and all the others who would gladly subject the people to hardships not only to get their way, but because the suffering of the people is necessary for them to be victorious, and for them to stay in power.

A rot in the body politic, truly.