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Liberal Retards?

And you have the audacity to call others who use “LOL” childish?  What a fucking joke Rob.  I am embarrassed for you.

After nearly five years of the chicken-hawk argument I’m not sure anyone really takes it seriously any more.  After all, one need not be a police officer to oppose crime or be a fireman to think that fires should be put out.  It’s not logical.

Oh they take it seriously.  What you really mean by this statement is that after five years of knowing you are a chicken-hawk, you have become comfortable with that fact.

You further try to avoid the excellent point by comparing unnecessary wars to necessary policing. PATHETIC.

I am thoroughly enjoying watching you squirm your way out of this one like the slimy worm you are.

There is no question that those who promote the foolish arrogance and needless wars that arise from it should be the first to serve on the front lines, when our troops are having to serve 3-4 tours.

Support the Troops?  Liars!

Typing “LOLOLOLOL!!!!” is always childish.  Calling some a retard, however, is often justified.

And I am, and always have been, quite comfortable with the career path I’ve chosen.  My father fought in Vietnam (one silver star, four bronze stars, three purple hearts), and I’ve always admired his service...but the military has never been for me.

Make of that what you will, insult me if you must, but know that if you had the courage of your convictions you’d be over there serving as a human shield against this illegal war.  Right?

Isn’t that the proper way to apply the logic you’re applying to me to your situation?

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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Until you have a child who is “retarded”, Rob, then you’ll stop.  But I digress.

Rob writes: 

After nearly five years of the chickenhawk argument I’m not sure anyone really takes it seriously any more.

Like anyone should take seriously your postulations on Obama’s fainting schtick, or the Obama = Hitler allgations or the WSI is being wronged argument or even the Obama using a bracelett (sic) as a prop crap.  You’re right, noone should take you seriously.

*yawn*

And yet, I’ll go on having my posts read by millions every week.

You get the most flak when you’re over the target.  I can always tell when I’m the most right when people like you and Hanny are pissed.

It gives me a special feeling down deep inside.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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Rob,

That’s rich—Leftards ... spawn of the draft-card burning smelly Hippy of the 1970’s encouraging others to serve.  Evidently they suffer from overactive Gall bladders, as their gall knowns no bounds.

Service?  Most Conservatives have.  Leftists?  Prolly didn’t make it past the ENTNAC check, much less basic.

Nancy Boys of the Left unite! 

Hide behind the Real Men to keep your country free, while you use your freedom—purchased by the blood of men better than you—to spit on the land of your birth.

At least Leftists back in the day actually picked up a rifle and fought for what they believed in during the Spanish Civil War.

...for great justice

In the above comment, that should read “hundreds of thousands every week” instead of “millions.”

Haven’t quite hit that benchmark yet, but we’ll get there.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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Until you have a child who is “retarded”, Rob, then you’ll stop.

I actually draw a distinction between “retards” and the mentally disabled.  Failing to do so would make calling someone like, oh I don’t know, Hanny here a “retard” an insult to the mentally disabled people of the world.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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Actually, not pissed Rob,just LOL at the silliness of the last few posts. It is indeed interesting that Hillary is almost entirely off your screen and it’s all Obama 24/7.  Not too much on the republicans since they are imploding and can’t figure out how to get it together to back McCain. 

Careful now, you’re getting spittle flecks all over your computer!

We’ve actually posted a lot about McCain on the blog.  I’ve made no bones about my dislike of him as a candidate, and other contributors (mostly on the reader blogs) have voiced their support.

We’ve talked about the Republican situation at length, and we’ve also posted a good deal about Hillary as well (my post about Harold Ickes’ U-turn has gotten a lot of reads, if not a lot of comments).

I can only attribute your refusal to note these posts as a lie, though one made more to yourself than to me.  I think you need to convince yourself that we’re scared of Barack Obama more than you need to convince any conservatives posting on this blog.

As for subject matter, I actually don’t make conscious decisions about what to post on during the course of a given day.  I tend to follow what interests me at the moment, and for the last couple of days it has been Obama.

So it goes.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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Those idiots are still around? Good lord…

The “yellow elephant/chickenhawk” argument, at its core, is fundamentally dishonest. It’s an attempt (and a shallow one) to convert arguments about policy to arguments about the character of one of the arguers. It’s a concession; they are, in effect, saying “I can’t rebut your arguments, so I’m going to shame you into shutting up.”

Oh, and Rob, I will quibble with you over your use of “retards.” I have never met a retarded person who would put forward such a stupid and dishonest and mean-spirited case as this.

J.

Rob, please read carefully my post, all the attacks recently have been on Obama, when a few days or a week ago it was mostly attacks on Hillary. Just noting the turn in attack direction, that’s all.

or pajamas media or breitbart, or Drudge or Newsbusters.....

Did you notice yesterday when I posted that Obama isn’t as inevitable as he seems?

Probably not, because that doesn’t fit your narrative.

Are you ever right about anything you post here?

Oh, and Rob, I will quibble with you over your use of “retards.” I have never met a retarded person who would put forward such a stupid and dishonest and mean-spirited case as this.

You’re probably right.  I usually don’t name-call in posts, and only do so in comments to people who aim it at me first, but this email got under my skin a bit.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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I always have to laugh when liberals demagogue Pajamas Media as some sort of bastion of conservative thinking.  Yes, most of the people on board at Pajamas are conservative, but that’s only because liberals refused to join up.  There was no ideological litmus test when the group started, and there still isn’t.  Heck, people like David Corn were with me among the founding membership.

But I guess that’s what you liberals need to do in order to discredit anyone who might think a little differently than you do.  More of that famous liberal “tolerance” we’re told so much about.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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My favorite leftie lie on this subject is where they claim a website called “The Yellow Elephant” is “non-partisan”.
If you take the ridiculous “chickenhawk” argument to its logical conclusion, no leftie can legtimately criticize the President unless they have also served as the President of the United States.
It’s just another example of leftie fascism.  In our country, every citizen has the right to express his or her opinion on anything.  There are no speech requirements for US citizens.  It’s that First Amendment thing.
Lefties always seem to want prior restraint; wonder why?

"One must regard his leftist opponent as a parent regards his recalcitrant child. Don’t give an inch in a debate with a leftist, and you’ll soon frustrate him to the point that he falls back to his default position. He’ll gainsay your every point. He’ll even resort to calling you names and accusing you of having suspect parentage.”

Pot, meet kettle.

What a stinging rebuke(not).
BTW, P, quit lying; I never said Obama=Hitler(you did).  I simply pointed out the similarity in their no-content speeches designed to whip up their mindless fanatic supporters into an adoring frenzy.  In fact, I doubt that Obama will execute any Jews; he’ll save his hatred for white conservative men, just like you do.

"One must regard his leftist opponent as a parent regards his recalcitrant child. Don’t give an inch in a debate with a leftist, and you’ll soon frustrate him to the point that he falls back to his default position. He’ll gainsay your every point. He’ll even resort to calling you names and accusing you of having suspect parentage.”

he’ll save his hatred for white conservative men, just like you do.

Uh-oh, r-Gumby has a fear of the black man.
Maybe you could just invent a bus that only has back seats.

You’re gonna need a bigger fire hose, r-Gumby.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

R108 writes: 

His own speeches convict him.  He’s selling the same collectivist crap as Adolph, and so is “It Takes A Village” Clinton.  So are you, for that matter.

I think that is a direct comparison of Obama to Adolph.  You are the liar, R108.

If OPERATIONYELLOWELEPHANT is going to require military service as the basis for commenting on war, mass shootings, et al, they better buy up a whole lot of bandwidth, because ther list will run to about 250 million Americans, starting with Barack Obama and Ted Kennedy and endng with me.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

I suspect fraud with their inquiry, like the fake global warming site used to embarrass Rush Limbaugh.

There have been absolutely hilarious blog postings on the interwebs, made by guys who strung along phony Nigerian OIl Ministers for months at a time.

Liberals have no problems with using ruses and deception to acheive their goals, since their whole platform is built on lies, anyway.

For sites like the one Rob posted, someone should give them a taste of their own medicine.

How is Eric Wankerman of ‘operationyellowelephant.com’ able to identify who is heterosexual or not; does he have some secret power which enables him to peer into people’s bedrooms?

This is the stupid about identifying sexual behavior into specific categories, everyone can be whatever they want if it serves the purpose of meeting a momentary need.

I never said Obama=Hitler(you did).

What a fucking liar you are.  Your whole Guess Who thread is about Obama being Hitler.

Lestat: Of course you are.  The lefties need another Hitler, just a “nicer” one.

pparets, will you clarify for me what you meant when you wrote:

because ther list will run to about 250 million Americans, starting with Barack Obama and Ted Kennedy and endng with me. me.

thanks

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

RRB: Sure!  The sarcastic premis of OYE is that only those who have served in the military should be allowed to comment on war. I was pointing out that the vast majority of Americans would not qualify, by OYE’s standards.

Looking back at my post, I didn’t state my case very clearly. I apologize for that.

"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

Even Ted Kennedy?

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

I hate to bring this up, but…

Ted Kennedy was in the Army, serving as an enlisted man at SHAPE in Paris.

He enlisted after he was expelled from Harvard for having another student to take a Spanish test for him. His father was furious when he discovered that Teddy had signed up for a four-year hitch and pulled strings to get it revised to two years—of which Teddy served 16 months before being discharged, still a private.

But he did serve.

J.

The sarcastic premise of OYE is that only those who have served in the military should be allowed to comment on war.

If taking the country to war is the supreme power of civilian leaders, maybe we should take that to its logical conclusion, as did R.A. Heinlein: Only Veterans should be allowed to vote!

For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.

Frederick W. Kagan

Lestat: The “Guess Who” thread was about Hitler speeches that sounded like what Obama is saying right now, which means he sounds like Hitler(there’s a difference).  I must point out, though, that Hitler accomplished a whole lot more than Obama has, in the field of mass persuasion.  They both depend on swaying a lot of gullible people with empty oratory, so there is a similarity in that respect.  Don’t you find that just a little bit creepy?

"One must regard his leftist opponent as a parent regards his recalcitrant child. Don’t give an inch in a debate with a leftist, and you’ll soon frustrate him to the point that he falls back to his default position. He’ll gainsay your every point. He’ll even resort to calling you names and accusing you of having suspect parentage.”

Rob:

After nearly five years of the chickenhawk argument I’m not sure anyone really takes it seriously any more.  After all, one need not be a police officer to oppose crime or be a fireman to think that fires should be put out.  It’s not logical.

Oh shit! Now you have to edit every post you’ve ever made about Al Gore!

(Oh wait… before that, can I hear you make an intellectually dishonest post on how conservatives criticizing Al Gore for flying a private jet is meaningfully different from liberals criticizing you for sitting on your fat ass intsead of fighting in Iraq?)

How is Eric Wankerman of ‘operationyellowelephant.com’ able to identify who is heterosexual or not…

Typical leftie hypocritical gay-bashing.

"One must regard his leftist opponent as a parent regards his recalcitrant child. Don’t give an inch in a debate with a leftist, and you’ll soon frustrate him to the point that he falls back to his default position. He’ll gainsay your every point. He’ll even resort to calling you names and accusing you of having suspect parentage.”

They both depend on swaying a lot of gullible people with empty oratory, so there is a similarity in that respect.

So did Raygun and he was creepy.

I guess you are right r-gumby, Osama is the new Hitler.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

I think that is a direct comparison of Obama to Adolph. You are the liar, R108.

Wrong again, P: you claimed I expressed an equivalence(use of the verb “to be"), while the truth is that I expressed a partial similarity.  You lied.
They were also similar in other respects, as they were both human, males, and walked upright on two legs. Those similarities are insignificant, but using almost identical oratory is significant.
It’s an intellectual thing, knowing the difference.

"One must regard his leftist opponent as a parent regards his recalcitrant child. Don’t give an inch in a debate with a leftist, and you’ll soon frustrate him to the point that he falls back to his default position. He’ll gainsay your every point. He’ll even resort to calling you names and accusing you of having suspect parentage.”

Oh wait… before that, can I hear you make an intellectually dishonest post on how conservatives criticizing Al Gore for flying a private jet is meaningfully different from liberals criticizing you for sitting on your fat ass intsead of fighting in Iraq?

Not that you’re here for honest debate, but I’ll oblige in explaining how the situations are different.

See, in order to be successful in the war in Iraq we needn’t all go there in fight.  But according to Al Gore, in order to be successful in the war on “global warming” we all have to make “sacrifices.”

That Gore preaches sacrifice while touring the globe in a private jet and renting SUV’s just to drive his luggage around makes him the grand-high-poobah of hypocrites.

Follow that, or was it too logical?

My decision not to serve in the military is really nothing more than a career choice on my behalf.  About a year and a half ago I thought seriously about signing up with the Army, but another career path opened up for me so I chose that.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

-- Thomas Jefferson

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Uh-oh, r-Gumby has a fear of the black man.

Another lie from you, Master Baiter; but it’s understandable, since you have amply demonstrated a fear of the truth.

"One must regard his leftist opponent as a parent regards his recalcitrant child. Don’t give an inch in a debate with a leftist, and you’ll soon frustrate him to the point that he falls back to his default position. He’ll gainsay your every point. He’ll even resort to calling you names and accusing you of having suspect parentage.”

Just imagine how loud these silly child-minded twits at yellowelephant would cry if our established government were exclusively managed by and for the military elite only. Does he expect the rights of citizenship to be based on a military record of service? This idiot needs some civics and history lessons. Too bad we can’t send him and his crew to North Korea for a year of exchange nitwit training.
He could learn fascism 101 the hard way.

So did Raygun and he was creepy.

Another lie from you, Master Baiter; President Reagan accomplished a lot, so what he said was the opposite of “empty”, and it wasn’t “rhetoric”, either.  It was the truth.  He restored our economy and national defense from the ruin of Carter, he finished off the Soviet Union and restored America to a respectful place in the world(despite the lies of you lefties to the contrary).  The proof of this is that the Iranians handed over the hostages, who Carter was impotent to rescue.

"One must regard his leftist opponent as a parent regards his recalcitrant child. Don’t give an inch in a debate with a leftist, and you’ll soon frustrate him to the point that he falls back to his default position. He’ll gainsay your every point. He’ll even resort to calling you names and accusing you of having suspect parentage.”

...Osama is the new Hitler.

Freudian slip, Master Baiter?  You are now one with Teddy Kennedy.  Good going!

"One must regard his leftist opponent as a parent regards his recalcitrant child. Don’t give an inch in a debate with a leftist, and you’ll soon frustrate him to the point that he falls back to his default position. He’ll gainsay your every point. He’ll even resort to calling you names and accusing you of having suspect parentage.”

Typical lying hate filed rightie revisionist propaganda.

It was all rhetoric, r-Gumby.

Did he increase the size of our government?
Did he negotiate with terrorists?
Did he give protect our boarders with blanket amnesty?
Did he lower our debt?
Did he break our laws?

October surprise, r-Gumby, you’re claim victory with the October surprise?

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

October surprise, r-Gumby, you’re claim victory with the October surprise?

Another leftie lie from you, Master Baiter; it never happened.
What has Obama accomplished?

"One must regard his leftist opponent as a parent regards his recalcitrant child. Don’t give an inch in a debate with a leftist, and you’ll soon frustrate him to the point that he falls back to his default position. He’ll gainsay your every point. He’ll even resort to calling you names and accusing you of having suspect parentage.”

And one doesn’t have to recycle/drive a hybrid car/reduce one’s carbon footprint to be opposed
to global warming.

Right.  Of course, preaching that for everyone else, while not doing it yourself is hypocrisy.
I don’t think anyone is preaching that you Yellow Donkeys should be fighting for your country; just don’t betray it by giving aid and comfort to the terrorists.

"One must regard his leftist opponent as a parent regards his recalcitrant child. Don’t give an inch in a debate with a leftist, and you’ll soon frustrate him to the point that he falls back to his default position. He’ll gainsay your every point. He’ll even resort to calling you names and accusing you of having suspect parentage.”

The “Guess Who” thread was about Hitler speeches that sounded like what Obama is saying right now, which means he sounds like Hitler(there’s a difference).  I must point out, though, that Hitler accomplished a whole lot more than Obama has, in the field of mass persuasion.  They both depend on swaying a lot of gullible people with empty oratory, so there is a similarity in that respect.  Don’t you find that just a little bit creepy?

He also sounds alot like FDR.  Why don’t you compare him to FDR.  He also sounds alot like MLK, why didn’t you compare him to MLK?  Rhetoric is an artform.  He has it, FDR had it, MLK had it.  You use Hitler because you want the equivalence to Hitler.  You are a liar.  At this rate you will go off the deep end by October.

He also sounds alot like FDR. Agreed.  It’s the same fascist collectivist rhetoric. Why don’t you compare him to FDR. Why don’t you make your own post and write it the way you want?  I’m not here to do your bidding. He also sounds alot like MLK, why didn’t you compare him to MLK? Rhetoric is an artform. Not in the case of Hitler, Obama and those scoundrels you mention; it’s outright deception and lying. He has it, FDR had it, MLK had it. Agreed.  They’re all fascist collectivists.  Thanks for pointing that out, but they still share the same message Hitler was spewing.

I find it interesting that you lefties constantly refer to our President as Hitler, but you squeal like stuck pigs when the similarity of Hitler’s rhetoric to the rhetoric of your leftie politicians is correctly noted.  You should be proud of their rhetorical skills, but somehow you’re in denial of that.

"One must regard his leftist opponent as a parent regards his recalcitrant child. Don’t give an inch in a debate with a leftist, and you’ll soon frustrate him to the point that he falls back to his default position. He’ll gainsay your every point. He’ll even resort to calling you names and accusing you of having suspect parentage.”

Robert,

Glad to see you finally admit you are a fucking liar and you were comparing Obama to Hitler.  The other conservatives should be embarrassed by you, but I’m sure they are not.

See, in order to be successful in the war in Iraq we needn’t all go there in fight. 

I love it.  Just let them keep digging their own grave Puzzle.

It’s getting under their skin, so they have to misrepresent the point yellow elephant is making to justify their position.

Anybody who understands that our troops are serving 3-4 tours, sometimes more, in order to fight this war in Iraq, understands that it will require more than just our volunteers or current number of war fighters to continue down this road.

I, unlike Rob and half these Chicken-Hawks have always disagreed with the Iraq war.  But I have always advocated a draft.  I have been saying from the start that we needed more troops and a draft, but the right dodged that because they don’t want a draft, because they know they would loose the presidency in 08 if they did.

You see, if drafted, I would serve.  I encourage the draft.  It’s more than any of these chicken-hawks have done.  And I will wager none of them have ever suggested a draft.

They go about pushing for war with Iran every time they do something stupid, but who in the hell is going to fight that war on top of fighting the war in AF and Iraq? 

They certainly aren’t going to volunteer!  They aren’t even talking a bout a draft.  They just like to sit here and shoot spit-balls at the left, for any reason and most of the time no reason.

There just a bunch of little kids, thinking their making an argument when there just making a stink.

Pathetic little dweebs.

I’m off to go meet Obama’s campaign committee and talk with his sister for a bit.  I am really looking forward to hearing about the fainting strategy and how well that is working for us.  (chuckle)

Glad to see you finally admit you are a fucking liar and you were comparing Obama to Hitler.

Again you lie.  There is no comparison at all in the original post, only the question about who said those things.  I’m of the mind that your entire leftie fascist message is highly similar to Hitler’s, as I have already expressed to you, and that the American public should be informed of that fact.  You aren’t promising us anything we want, but you lie about it to deceive people.  You will be busted before November.  Of course, you could always come back to the founding principles of America.
Of course your union thug lied when she opined that I equated Obama with Hitler; the rhetoric is almost exact, but Obama hasn’t seized power yet, so it remains to be seen if he will implement the rest of the fascist collective agenda.

"One must regard his leftist opponent as a parent regards his recalcitrant child. Don’t give an inch in a debate with a leftist, and you’ll soon frustrate him to the point that he falls back to his default position. He’ll gainsay your every point. He’ll even resort to calling you names and accusing you of having suspect parentage.”

Lestat: I never denied comparing Obama’s rhetoric with Hitler’s, because they are almost identical.  What I denied was that I ever said Obama was equal to Hitler, which was P’s lie.  He is not equal to Hitler.  He has yet to achieve that.

"One must regard his leftist opponent as a parent regards his recalcitrant child. Don’t give an inch in a debate with a leftist, and you’ll soon frustrate him to the point that he falls back to his default position. He’ll gainsay your every point. He’ll even resort to calling you names and accusing you of having suspect parentage.”

I never denied comparing Obama’s rhetoric with Hitler’s, because they are almost identical.  What I denied was that I ever said Obama was equal to Hitler, which was P’s lie.  He is not equal to Hitler.  He has yet to achieve that.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

But I have always advocated a draft.

Of course; as a fascist leftie, you oppose individual choice, and must “mandate” everything to force people to obey your agenda.  You hate what our volunteer military represents: individual independence.

"One must regard his leftist opponent as a parent regards his recalcitrant child. Don’t give an inch in a debate with a leftist, and you’ll soon frustrate him to the point that he falls back to his default position. He’ll gainsay your every point. He’ll even resort to calling you names and accusing you of having suspect parentage.”

Lestat: I never denied comparing Obama’s rhetoric with Hitler’s, because they are almost identical.  What I denied was that I ever said Obama was equal to Hitler, which was P’s lie.  He is not equal to Hitler.  He has yet to achieve that.

Bullshit.  By saying his rhetoric is the same as Hitler, you are saying that if we elect him we get another Hitler.

You are so scared of Obama, that you have to bring up Hitler.

You are a liar and by Godwin’s Law you lose the argument.

By saying his rhetoric is the same as Hitler, you are saying that if we elect him we get another Hitler.

I’m hoping that we can do better than him, obviously.
I’m glad that accurate comparison got your panties in a bunch, though; shows I’m right on target.

"One must regard his leftist opponent as a parent regards his recalcitrant child. Don’t give an inch in a debate with a leftist, and you’ll soon frustrate him to the point that he falls back to his default position. He’ll gainsay your every point. He’ll even resort to calling you names and accusing you of having suspect parentage.”

You are a liar and by Godwin’s Law you lose the argument.

I told the truth(which is why you are spitting hate), and according to your so-called “Godwin’s Law”, you lefties lost the argument when you called our President as Hitler.  You should be ashamed of yourself, hater.

"One must regard his leftist opponent as a parent regards his recalcitrant child. Don’t give an inch in a debate with a leftist, and you’ll soon frustrate him to the point that he falls back to his default position. He’ll gainsay your every point. He’ll even resort to calling you names and accusing you of having suspect parentage.”

Dumbass liar, Godwin’s law is what is invoked on this site to say that liberals can never compare Bush to Hitler because whoever invokes Hitler first loses.  It is conservative rhetoric.

Glad to see that you are a hypocrite as well as a liar, but I already new that.

Dumbass liar, Godwin’s law is what is invoked on this site to say that liberals can never compare Bush to Hitler because whoever invokes Hitler first loses. It is conservative rhetoric.

Keep spewing, hater, but none of your lies will change the fact that Obama uses Hitlerian rhetoric.  It’s a fact.  Read it and weep.

"One must regard his leftist opponent as a parent regards his recalcitrant child. Don’t give an inch in a debate with a leftist, and you’ll soon frustrate him to the point that he falls back to his default position. He’ll gainsay your every point. He’ll even resort to calling you names and accusing you of having suspect parentage.”

r-gumby, you are the hate filled hater rightie hater neo-con hypocrite enabling hater filled with hate and spewer of hateful lies of hate.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

r-gumby, you are the hate filled hater rightie hater neo-con hypocrite enabling hater filled with hate and spewer of hateful lies of hate.

Thanks for making my point, Master Baiter!  Your hatred is that of the liar when the bright light of truth is shined on him.

"One must regard his leftist opponent as a parent regards his recalcitrant child. Don’t give an inch in a debate with a leftist, and you’ll soon frustrate him to the point that he falls back to his default position. He’ll gainsay your every point. He’ll even resort to calling you names and accusing you of having suspect parentage.”

I am pure love, r-gumby.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

I’m off to go meet Obama’s campaign committee and talk with his sister for a bit.  I am really looking forward to hearing about the fainting strategy and how well that is working for us.

Now, H, tell the truth. The librarian is about to kick your ass off the computer to let someone else have a turn, and there’s some strange bag lady outside rummaging through your shopping cart.

“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Rob, Your blog does a great service to our country. By allowing Everyone the freedom to express their ideas it becomes clear where the Left and the Right are politically. The Left obviously wants to turn the USA into a Socialist society. The Right wants less Big Government involved in our lives. SA opens our eyes and ears to all sides. Keep up the good work and continue not allowing ignorant individuals who try to act like they no it all knock you down! Thanks Man!

I am pure love, r-gumby.

What’s fascinating to me is that none of you leftie haters have questioned or argued with the fact that Obama’s and Hitler’s rhetoric are highly similar.  Instead, your objection is to my exposing that fact.  It speaks volumes, Master Baiter.

"One must regard his leftist opponent as a parent regards his recalcitrant child. Don’t give an inch in a debate with a leftist, and you’ll soon frustrate him to the point that he falls back to his default position. He’ll gainsay your every point. He’ll even resort to calling you names and accusing you of having suspect parentage.”

So you are fascinated as to why people don’t believe what you write?

r-Gumby, you make stuff up, run them up your pole as facts and when no one salutes, you call them hate filled liars.

You are a far right loon, an ideologue zombie, a wing nut’s wing nut, you are unhinged, screechy, incoherent with fear, an anchor on the last gop ship sailing from the ’94 flotilla. You’re a tortilla.

I feel sorry for you r-Gumby.
I will pray for your soul.

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

So you are fascinated as to why people don’t believe what you write?  I gave you the facts, and the link to the speeches the excerpts came from.  No “belief” is necessary, just reading comprehension.

r-Gumby, you make stuff up, run them up your pole as facts and when no one salutes, you call them hate filled liars.  I didn’t make anything up; I gave you the link; go there and read for yourself.

You are a far right loon, an ideologue zombie, a wing nut’s wing nut, you are unhinged, screechy, incoherent with fear, an anchor on the last gop ship
sailing from the ’94 flotilla. You’re a tortilla.
Still no factual or logical counter-argument, just juvenile namecalling and hatespew.  I exposed your phony, and you hate me for it.  Typical.  Why do you want a guy who believes in the same ideology as Hitler as your Presidential candidate?

I feel sorry for you r-Gumby.
I will pray for your soul.  Pray for your own soul first, hater.

"One must regard his leftist opponent as a parent regards his recalcitrant child. Don’t give an inch in a debate with a leftist, and you’ll soon frustrate him to the point that he falls back to his default position. He’ll gainsay your every point. He’ll even resort to calling you names and accusing you of having suspect parentage.”

No no no r-Gumby, you cut and pasted sentences from your buddy Hitler’s speeches then made a lame attempt to bait us into one of your semantic finger traps, chastising us for not falling for it.

Jesus has taught me to serve others.
I will pray for your soul first.
I am pure love r-Gumby.

I love you r-Gumby.

(I will let poof or B O correct your spelling)

“If a conservative is still a republican after the last 13 years, he is blind to the fact that his party of choice has failed him utterly.” – Realitybasedbob

No no no r-Gumby, you cut and pasted sentences So, which is it?  First you claimed I made it up, now you admit I actually posted excerpts from Hitler’s speeches.  Why did you lie before?  If you want to know whose “buddy” he is, look at the guy who uses the same rhetoric. from your buddy Hitler’s speeches then made a lame attempt to bait us I didn’t “bait” you; you could have made some counter-arguments, but you didn’t have any.  The truth is that your candidate-in-waiting uses the same rhetoric as Hitler. The evidence speaks for itself. into one of your semantic finger traps, chastising us for not falling for it. The real question is: why don’t you find that creepy?  Is your lust for power so great that you don’t care how you get it?

Keep dancing, spinning, spewing and lying, Master Baiter; you can’t change the truth.

"One must regard his leftist opponent as a parent regards his recalcitrant child. Don’t give an inch in a debate with a leftist, and you’ll soon frustrate him to the point that he falls back to his default position. He’ll gainsay your every point. He’ll even resort to calling you names and accusing you of having suspect parentage.”

Proponents of the Chicken Hawk slur are despicable.

Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

Now, H, tell the truth. The librarian is about to kick your ass off the computer to let someone else have a turn, and there’s some strange bag lady outside rummaging through your shopping cart.

Ha ha.  You’re not that far off....there was a lady pushing me to get off my MAC, there was some rummaging through bags and if you saw my truck you would see some similarities between it and a homeless persons shopping cart.

And by the way the gathering was a bit lame at times.  I do see how you can make the argument that his campaign doesn’t really discuss specific issues as much as pie in the sky language that is directed as fixing our status in the world stage.  Barack himself wasn’t speaking, mostly local Congressmen, supporters and his sister.  But there were some issues discussed.

What’s fascinating to me is that none of you leftie haters have questioned or argued with the fact that Obama’s and Hitler’s rhetoric are highly similar.  Instead, your objection is to my exposing that fact.

Rob,

Nobody cares to respond to that type of lunacy because we have too much respect for ourselves to respond to it in a serious manner.

We could say the same thing about Bush.  But where does that get us, you guys just get all fired up that were a bunch of loons who compare Bush to Hilter. 

Now you are making the inverse argument and you think you are winning it, even though you are the same guy who criticizes people for making comparisons between Bush and Hitler.

This type of discussion gets us nowhere, fast.

But the more you go about “debating”, the more I find less of a reason to challenge you.  You defeat yourself half the time you open your mouth.

Holy Sheepshit!

I’m away for a bit and it looks you folks have spent the better part of Sunday going back and forth.  Looks like the Left are dragging my buddies into the weeds over petty arguments.

Guys, don’t you know that arguing with the average Leftist is akin to arguing with a retard or drunk—aside from the facts that retards and drunks have good and valid excuses for their condition?

Leftists don’t.  They do, however, suffer from the DoubleThink* mania which makes arguing law, logic, history and stats an exercise in futility.

That being said, what Leftards are missing when they make a Yella-Phant argument is also disqualifying themselves from discussing foreign policy.

Like the Italians who rebuked the Pope for advocating no birth control: you no play-a da game—you no make-a da rules!

And so it is with their Yellaphant argument.

We don’t have a draft.  We haven’t had one for some time.  Domestic commies don’t serve.  They’d never pass the pee test, or the no-homos test or the have-you-ever-been-a-criminal test. 

They are hairy and smelly and stupid for good reasons.

What the US does overseas does not concern them.  It doesn’t affect them.  No one has asked and non one is compelling them to serve.  Why oh why do they then bleat bring the troops home? when, given the chance, they would rather just spit on the Corporal just returning to the World with some hash marks on his sleeve, a combat infantry badge on his chest and a seabag on his shoulder.

They could give a rats’ ass about the health, safety and welfare of the individual fighting man.

Hypocrisy writ large.

The logical fallacy of the Yellaphant / Chickenhawk argument completely escapes their bong-addled minds.  Is that a surprise to anyone?

Then to add to the mix, they will, from time to time, trot out a ‘disgruntled veteran’ whose credentials are unassailable, because he has been there and done that.  Yet, upon closer scrutiny we often find that these guys are complete shams.

We have learned to distrust any sort of arguments posited by the Left because they have been caught lying so many times (e.g. Gun Control, Bellesiles, Battered women - Superbowl spike, endangered species , planted fur, and so on and so on....)

Do you Lefties ever feel any shame? 

How pitiable it must be to be you.

*

The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them . . . . To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies — all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth.

...for great justice

Move_Zig,

Well said.

See also my reader’s blog post on the matter.

What a bunch of despicable Quislings.  We should gift them with a case of Perrier re-labled with the original company name.

Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destroyed.”

That being said, what Leftards are missing when they make a Yella-Phant argument is also disqualifying themselves from discussing foreign policy.

Cute, changing the arguement in order to make one. 

The issue isn’t that you can’t discuss foriegn policy issues, ya twit.  It’s that you shouldn’t be pushing for more wars or supporting existing ones, if we don’t have the man power