Let’s Talk About Pirates. Argh.

Talk about a high yield, low risk business.
Get a few homicidal, soulless lunatics, give them some guns and RPG’s, put them in boats and let them board unarmed merchant vessels, take the crew and cargo hostage, then demand millionns in payment from whatever entity owns said boats and crews (governments, private businesses, etc.,) then release the boats and hostages (with minimum torture and murder) after getting the ransom so that you maintain credibility and keep the cash flowing.
Not bad. Not bad at all.
It’s an odd, almost Twilight Zone situation. Some of the mightiest governments in the world just don’t know what to do about a bunch of illiterate maniacs who are stealing their boats in the open ocean. Apart from a couple of recent incidents, one where the Indian Navy did the logical thing and actually killed some of them and sank their transportation in the process, and one where British Marines shot up a few after being fired on, much of what our wonderful civilized governments have done amounts to hand-wringing and useless protests from their politicians.
So, in that vein, I’d like to offer some suggestions about this.
First off, stop worrying about upsetting the various governments in the Horn of Africa if you do happen to blow some of those fine folks out of the water and into the arms of their waitng 72 virgins. Tell them to pound sand – of which they have plenty. What are they gonna do – get mad?
You could do the old style convoy escorts but all that would do would be to cause the pirates to lay low until the various governments got tired of that expense and hassle and stopped the practice, then they’d come aswarmin’ again. It would work for a while, but wouldn’t be the best solution in the box.
Or, how about this…..before the ships leave the Red Sea and into the Gulf of Aden, how about ferrying a squad of well trained, well armed soldiers aboard? A US Marine rifle squad would do niclely, complete with Dragon shoulder fired missiles that are more than a match for pirates in speedboats with RPG’s. The pirates approach and – SURPRISE! No ransom for you, Zippy. When the ships made it ouside the pirate’s area of operation the troops could be ferried back to the starting point. Simple, really, and a whole lot cheaper than paying millions in ransom for your ships and crews.
Then there are the old WW2 style Q ships. Those were merchant vessels with hidden guns mounted on their decks that were essentially bait for German subs. It didn’t work out too well, but these morons aren’t exactly U boat commandres now, are they?
Anyway, it’s Saturday morning and it’s cold outside (for down here in Louisiana, anyway) and I’m bored and I’m tired of hearing how a bunch like this has the whole shipping world in a tizzy, so I thought I’d offer my humble solutions: Kill them wherever you find them. Harsh? Maybe, but it’s the only form of communication those people understand.
Anybody with any creative – or just plain fun – ideas feel free to chime in.

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  • http://Array Jerry

    Kill the Thieves.
    Or, take what you get and quit complaining.

  • RebTex

    But then there’s the fact that the whole world cannot be approached in this manner.

    Funny…THe whole f’n world is expecting folks like us to solve the problem.
    It’s important for others to learn from the mistakes of these “few”.

  • 2Hotel9

    Guys, the trick is these pirates don’t come from small, isolated fishing villages, they come out of a population of 10s of thousands in each of the coastal cities. They are in fact a tiny group of people hiding among the innocent. Killing them at sea is the only effective option. Otherwise you are just making the shit worse.

  • 2Hotel9

    Not really. The ones you kill with eyes closed are the ones that haunt you.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Put a couple of .50 cals fore and aft, covered in loosely mounted crates marked “Whup ass”.

    When challenged by pirates, open up a crate or two…

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/some_hints/ AKAJOEL

    Update: Somali pirates negotiaing purchase of Citigroup. The pirates would buy Citigroup with new debt and their existing cash stockpiles most recently acquired from highjacking Saudi oil tankers. Hank Paulson said the Somali pirate equity is an investment and will pay off.

  • http://boyddrivefollies.blogspot.com/ Good Ol Boy

    Yeah, I’d say its nothing some well armed mercenaries couldn’t handle for the insurance companies that insure these ships and cargoes. Let the private enterprise system work!

  • Jerry

    Arming them is no solution because the crews are often just as illiterate and almost as criminal as the pirates

    John M., Pretty ssumptive of you to call the crews on oil tankers delivering oil to the western world criminals.

    Those in this world who choose not to protect themselves when needed, get their ass’s handed to them on a regular basis. Daily. All the time. By the minute. The second.
    Life just ain’t really fair. You better plan on some trouble some time, if breathing is what you like most.

    One of my favorite quotes. From the late Johnny Carson; If life was fair, Elvis would be alive, and all the Impersonators would be dead.

  • http://magyartruth.blogspot.com/ Chief RZ

    History repeats itself: Barbary Pirates. Send in the Marines!
    Not now, we will have to wait at least 4 years while Hillary “negotiates” and appeases.

  • http://www.dartemis.net/blog/ sayanything-42

    dworth (of dKos infamy), aka sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle the “pandering ninny” informs us:

    Its funny the “variety” of solutions you guys offer all center around killing.

    It’s amusing that dworth (of dKos infamy), aka sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle the “pandering ninny” doesn’t recognize that killing pirates and destorying their infrastructure is the most effective method of dealing with piracy in historical terms. One suspects he confuses Johnny Dep for real pirates…

    But then there’s the fact that the whole world cannot be approached in this manner.

    No one here is proposing that the historically proven method of dealing with piracy be extended to all situations world wide, except of course the fevered corner of dworth (of dKos infamy), aka sparkless-arse-fuckin-buckle the “pandering ninny” which he uses in the construction of straw men.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    Geez.

    I hate it when it does that.

    Lik,

    Cleanup on Aisle 4.

  • di butler

    I read a little background on these folks. The average Somalian only lives to 46. Children are lucky to make it to their 5th birthday. The shopkeepers love the pirates and offer credit to them, because when they do come in with the dough, they pay them extra. The pirates have brought in approx 30 mil this last year. Don’t get me wrong, these guys should be shut down, but part of me feels sorry that they live like this. I hate thinking of children starving. I also read that the pirates are living in big stone houses now, driving fancy rides, and marrying the pretty women. Hard to believe, but they are the rockstars of their world. I guess they are willing to take the risk of dying to possibly be hotshits in their little towns. This is so messed up.

  • docjohn52

    Makes them the most successful pirates EVER!

    Call disney, see if Johnny Depp is up for another movie, “Pirates of Somalia, Blow me down, English Navy.”

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    BLOW a few of these clowns out of the water and they will think twice about hi jacking ships.

  • 2Hotel9

    Toot, they are pirates, their actions are their trial.

  • tothestars2

    “To the shores of Tripoli”. Just do to the east side of Africa, what the marines did to the west side in 1805. Nuff said.

  • 2Hotel9

    “Killing them at sea is the only effective option. Otherwise you are just making the shit worse.” There you go, spark.

  • NoJelly

    A relatively simple and less expensive than tankers full of oil might be to dress up and old decommisioned hulk to look new, fill the holds with seawater (to give the impression of high waterline), radio control them back and forth in the sealanes until boarded by the unclean…Then put the bastiges out of our misery with a well-placed daisy cutter…

    THAT may be a deterrant…

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com/ Bike Bubba

    Let them swim home from miles out at sea? You’re so kind, Whistler. :^)

    And of course, I’d do the same. Much easier, mentally, to shoot at a boat than to hit people.

  • RebTex

    I’d suggest a frontal attack on their villages while the pirates are afloat.
    When they return to the razed remains a few times, they’ll get the idea.
    Worst case, you end the reserve personell for the pilferring roaches.
    /We should have actually finished the worthless bastards off when they $hit on us a few years back.

  • 2Hotel9

    Arming merchantmen is the actual best solution. Most commercial ships have decks that are rather high above the water, and a long slow climb up from the open boat to deck is the perfect time for the venerable 12ga pump, loaded with fletchettes, not mamby pamby 00 buckshot.

    And .50 cals are the hot ticket, though I prefer “Canned Heat” stenciled on the flak shields. Even a poor marksman can tear hell out of targets out to 2000 meters with a mounted Browning Heavy Barrel M2A1. Slap a state of the art aiming system on it and any idiot with a thumb can do the deed!

    Given that the best you are going to get out of an RPG or AK(and at 500m an AK rd ain’t gonna hurt anything but feelings), is 500 to 550 meters this is a total win/win scenario.

    As for captured pirates, again we have to fall back on the Geneva Accords, which dictate execution for Brigands/Bandits, and pirates fall within that nomenclature.

  • ollie-B

    The solution to this problem is no mystery at all. I would urge direct military action against the Somali territory. An air raid at the optimum time where most of these boats are kept in port would suffice. If they do not have a single port from which the raids are launched, then hit the spots where pirates are known to congregate. Blow up every ship there. I know some innocent lives may be lost. But we cannot allow this piracy to continue. A three pronged heavy firepower assault from air, sea and land will do quick decisive damage and destroy the morale of these cowards. Governments who have an interest in the area, which is just about everybody, should keep up marine and air patrols until the Somalis are brought to their knees. Go in; do the job and go home.

  • http://www.dartemis.net/blog/ sayanything-42

    The seat of purpose is on the land.

    When the villages which support the pirates are reduced to smoking rubble the piracy issue along the coast of Somalia will vanish as did the piracy issue along the Straits of Malaaca following the Tsunami.

  • http://www.myspace.com/thekingscourt4u Gman

    Hell let them keep stealing the oil.

    They are charging 25 million for a tanker full of 100 million of oil.

    That’s .25 on the dollar.

    That would almost solve the oil price problem.

    Seriously,

    You don’t need to arm every vessel, just every other. Let the dumb bastards figure out which ones are armed.

    Can you say deterrent.

    I also like the Crate of Whup Ass idea…..

  • John M.

    I don’t think you guys understand the vast numbers of ships we’re talking about here. Thousands per week go through those waters. The entire US Marine Corp doesn’t have enough rifle squads to guard them all. Arming them is no solution because the crews are often just as illiterate and almost as criminal as the pirates. The vessel seizure rate would probably go UP as crews killed their captain and absconded with their own ships.

    While I agree this is irritating and probably overblown by the media, it’s still not enough to make an economic impact that justifies sending a bunch of forces down there.

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com/ Bike Bubba

    I’m with 2H9 on this one. If you destroy their villages, you’re back in Vietnam. If, however, you start deploying some light/medium arms on ships and ruining some pirates’ days at sea, you’ve sent a powerful message to the rest. Arming even 5-10% of ships would be a powerful deterrent.

    Another possibility; every water-displacing ship has a “hull speed,” and trying to go faster simply creates a bigger wake. It might be worth the diesel fuel to “nudge” the hull speed and make it more difficult to board.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    One would think that having a decent sized security force on the ship along with a radar system that would let you know when there’s another boat within a couple miles of you would be all you really need. Having some armed helicopters around as well would really seal the deal.

    I wouldn’t be so heartless as to execute them all. I’d just sink their boat and let them swim home. I’m sure they’ll learn their lesson.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    Does anyone remember the Tanker War in the Gulf of Hormuz? Silkworm missiles? Revolutionary Guards in Glastrons armed with AK’s, RPK’s and RPG’s?

    Eventually, we started flagging many of the vessels actually owned by American corporations, but flying under flags of convenience (e.g. Panama, Mauritius, Marshall Islands, etc.. ) with the US flag in order to give the US Navy authority to escort them and come to their aid if fired upon.

    I had suggested back then that contractors employing former SEALs and SBS types, piloting Fast Attack Craft, possibly slung for rapid deployment from davits, and armed with mini-guns would make short work of sea-going vermin.

    And in a variation of what someone has already alluded to, disguise armed ships as unarmed ships. The Brits used such with great success against the German Commerce Raiders and U-boots, and the Brits called them Q-Boats or Q-ships. Essentially, they were sea-going wolves in sheeps’ clothing, intended to take advantage of German U-boot vulnerability when they made surface attacks (that is to say, not all U-boot attacks were made by torpedo. Oftentimes, if the target was an unarmed commercial vessel, the U-boot would just surface and finish the hapless victim with its deck gun) .

    Either way, while it lacks Leftard nuance, there is a certain finality to a dead pirate, along with the salutory effects of pour encourager les autres.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    Does anyone remember the Tanker War in the Gulf of Hormuz? Silkworm missiles? Revolutionary Guards in Glastrons armed with AK’s, RPK’s and RPG’s?

    Eventually, we started flagging many of the vessels actually owned by American corporations, but flying under flags of convenience (e.g. Panama, Mauritius, Marshall Islands, etc.. ) with the US flag in order to give the US Navy authority to escort them and come to their aid if fired upon.

    I had suggested back then that contractors employing former SEALs and SBS types, piloting Fast Attack Craft, possibly slung for rapid deployment from davits, and armed with mini-guns would make short work of sea-going vermin.

    And in a variation of what someone has already alluded to, disguise armed ships as unarmed ships. The Brits used such with great success against the [url=h

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/sparkiearbuckle sayanything-81

    When the villages… are reduced to smoking rubble the piracy issue along the coast of Somalia will vanish…

    Its funny the “variety” of solutions you guys offer all center around killing. Groupthink, eh? I think when one views all these little incidents in isolation and thinks in terms of bandaids, well they seem convincing, plausible. But then there’s the fact that the whole world cannot be approached in this manner. A quandary for those with limited imaginations and a predilection for preserving cold war mentalities. Those… unthinking, anti-politics, anti-freedom idiots.

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