Let General Motors Go Bankrupt

Michael Levine makes the case in the Wall Street Journal for letting General Motors (and presumably other auto makers too) go bankrupt:

Consider the costs of tackling GM’s problems with some kind of bailout plan. After 42 years of eroding U.S. market share (from 53% to 20%) and countless announcements of “change,” GM still has eight U.S. brands (Cadillac, Saab, Buick, Pontiac, GMC, Saturn, Chevrolet and Hummer). As for its more successful competitors, Toyota (19% market share) has three, and Honda (11%) has two.
GM has about 7,000 dealers. Toyota has fewer than 1,500. Honda has about 1,000. These fewer and larger dealers are better able to advertise, stock and service the cars they sell. GM knows it needs fewer brands and dealers, but the dealers are protected from termination by state laws. This makes eliminating them and the brands they sell very expensive. It would cost GM billions of dollars and many years to reduce the number of dealers it has to a number near Toyota’s.
Foreign-owned manufacturers who build cars with American workers pay wages similar to GM’s. But their expenses for benefits are a fraction of GM’s. GM is contractually required to support thousands of workers in the UAW’s “Jobs Bank” program, which guarantees nearly full wages and benefits for workers who lose their jobs due to automation or plant closure. It supports more retirees than current workers. It owns or leases enormous amounts of property for facilities it’s not using and probably will never use again, and is obliged to support revenue bonds for municipalities that issued them to build these facilities. It has other contractual obligations such as health coverage for union retirees. All of these commitments drain its cash every month. Moreover, GM supports myriad suppliers and supports a huge infrastructure of firms and localities that depend on it. Many of them have contractual claims; they all have moral claims. They all want GM to be more or less what it is.

Exactly.
Letting General Motors, and other corporate giants that can’t remain solvent whatever industry they may be in, go bankrupt is what is called “creative destruction.” That which is old and unworkable gets destroyed, and in its place that which is new and workable gets created.
Of course, there are a lot of people getting rich off of the status quo. Politicians getting paid to maintain it, for instance, and labor unions who don’t want to take a hit in member enrollment. But is that really enough justification to prop up companies with business models that don’t work?

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  • http://Array Richard Romano

    One of the main problems are the unions — they have made it impossible for a company like GM to succeed…restructuring of each and every facet of the business seems in order, including bloated unions who protect all workers, even if their workers don’t deserve such protection.

    Chapter 11 will help make GM more viable — this means a stronger contribution to the economy, and not the burden to the economy it is now.

  • Puzzlefeet

    Di, they’re not squealing now because the company got all their money up front to bring the plant to bama. If you give the Big three the money, the workers will be happy too, Di.

  • Puzzlefeet

    Di,here is an article how MB is doing so well on your tax dollars:
    http://www.cfed.org/focus.m?parentid=34&siteid=46&id=177

  • Puzzlefeet

    Di, here’s how Alabama got Honda:
    http://www.siteselection.com/ssinsider/incentive/ti9906.htm

    So I guess there’s not much difference giving a bailout to Detroit!

  • Mickey

    Rezistik

    Mickey who are you to say that there is no factory worker worth the amount of money they’re paid?

    If anyone can do it why do they have such high wages?

    Because of unions.

  • dragon poker

    Will it end with GM? Are not Chrysler and Ford close behind in failure? It would take alot more than 25 billion.

    Are we prepared to allow the entire American Auto Industry to fail? Are these so called American Auto manufacturers still really American companies or are they international conglomerates? Should this matter? Is it about American companies or is it about American jobs?

    Are the big three worthy of consideration in terms of national security? Do we need the capacity in case of large scale conventional warfare, as we had available in 1941? Is this an obsolete notion, that the auto industry could mass produce war machines again if required?

    What will this country produce in the future? Isnt the auto industry the last large scale manfacturing base we have?

    We are fucked in so many ways.

  • LoadTheMule

    Rezistik,

    Not 20 minutes ago I heard the head of GM say that the predicament they’re is not the fault of any their stakeholders, it was brought on by the global economic crisis. Talk about heaping, steaming, piles of bullshit.

    I don’t want the Big 3 out of business either. What I want is for them to either be viable businesses with successful business models or be out of business. Chapter 11 reorganization is specifically designed for cases like this–shoving my tax money at them isn’t.

    Peter Senge said, “Every business is perfectly designed to get the results that it gets.” In terms of the Big 3, no truer words were ever spoken.

  • ollie-B

    Are we prepared to allow the entire American Auto Industry to fail? Are these so called American Auto manufacturers still really American companies or are they international conglomerates? Should this matter? Is it about American companies or is it about American jobs?

    GM and Ford are global conglomerates. They have worldwide operations in Australia, the Far East and Europe. However, they continue to make cars that don’t sell well because of quality problems. The Holden, in Australia, is a joke. In Europe, Ford has a great reputation. When I was in England, Ford produced some of the most stylish and reliable cars on the road. I often wondered why they did not downsize and build these cars in the U.S. Chrysler is all about power with very little attention to reliability and style.
    If young executives working in the auto industry could come up with a good business model, I am sure they could resurrect the U.S. auto industry.
    And if anyone in the industry does not have a diploma, whose fault is that?
    We cannot go the route of British Leyland. They were nationalized and jobs were saved. But they continued to make junk that nobody wanted.
    When 6000 GM executives are given new high end cars every 6 months and then are allowed to write off the cost of gas and maintenance, something is very wrong.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I think that Puzzled is Puzzled again.

    I doubt that the workers are happy because Alabama gave a few bucks to the auto maker to come in their state.

    They are happy for the job even though the Big 3 are paying far more for their labor than the Japanese transplants.

    I think it shows how toxic the UAW is on the old line manufacturers.

  • Jerry

    I vote for voluntary chapter 11.

    Mickey, your whole post was perfect. Concise and to the point.

    There’s going to be pain. Why not place it where it belongs.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Rezistik – I never said it was Rob’s fault I was questioning his methodology of fixing the economy…

    That’s the problem with the manufactured debate about GM’s failures – it is not about “fixing the economy”.

    Fixing GM’s economy would be letting them fail.

  • sayanything-2407

    Bailout of the Automakers without a significant retooling of the companies and how they are run, makes me think of feeding money into the fire box of a train to keep it moving.

  • Mickey

    I vote for voluntary chapter 11. Then GM can restructure and break the strangle hold that the UAW has on the company. There isn’t an assembly worker alive today that is worth $50 to $75 an hour / benefits included. Retirees also outnumber working employees in the company. GM could restructure the retirement policy with these existing members and carry it over to the new workforce. The workers can unionize (and they will) but on new terms. Otherwise there are millions of Americans who can do the job just as well.

    Any bail out plan is just enabling bad business policies to continue.

  • di butler

    Puzzled,

    I’m sure they would be happy, but I am not sure that would help. I don’t know, I’ve never run a auto plant, so I can’t say for sure how the best way to fix production, make better cars, etc. I do know the unions have made a mess of the big 3, and some of those stupid standards are just tacking on too much extra for no real reason. If they can restructure that’s great! But, if like I read today, that GM will have to file regardless of any bailouts at some time soon….well, maybe they need to do it now, not punish the tax payers.

  • Puzzlefeet

    Di, it might be that the State of Alabama gave the Mercedes/Honda/Hyundai companies, some of your tax dollars to come to Alabama. Usually, it’s land, infrastructure, tax increment financing and other goodies to come there.

  • http://boyddrivefollies.blogspot.com/ Good Ol Boy

    We currently have a miniature version of the Big Three going up in Pembina ND. Motor Coach Industries’ American division, long the maker of Greyhound buses and innumerable touring coaches declared bankruptcy this summer. The last group of investors (are you listening, Cerebus?) took on too large a debt load from the previous owners, and has not been able to shake it off.
    They are still producing buses, albeit at a more deliberate rate, and paying cash as they go along, especially to their “critical suppliers”, those necessary to keep the line moving each and every day. They must have had a plan that some judge thought would work- why can’t GM et al do the same, albeit on a larger scale?

  • di butler

    How is it the auto plants in my native Bama are doing better? I know people working there, they are happy.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/author/realitybasedbob/ realitybasedbob

    Nice shot

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/ likwidshoe

    Rezistik – Letting GM die would leave a lot of people jobless, people who didn’t finish school…

    Pretty sure you need a high school diploma to be hired at GM.

    …and who would find it hard to find new work. How would that help the economy?

    Is GM a job program or a company?

    By cutting out both the top and the bottom you fix it?

    Because Rob doesn’t want to bail out bad business practices, he’s at fault? Way to shift the blame there!

  • http://www.sayanythingblog.com/ electnixon

    Pretty sure you need a high school diploma to be hired at GM.

    Perhaps now you do, but there are current employees there who don’t. UAW nepotism: yes, diploma: no.

    ..And to reiterate from my fellow commenters: bankruptcy is not death. Ditching the unrealistic union expectations would bring a much needed correction to the US labor market.

    NPR did a show yesterday on Dayton, OH which stands to lose big from a GM plant closing. It described UAW membership as a club of the privileged, who bought new trucks every two years, among other things. Then it talked about how some of them don’t even have high school diplomas.

    Economic Darwinism indeed.

  • Rezistik

    Letting GM die would leave a lot of people jobless, people who didn’t finish school and who would find it hard to find new work. How would that help the economy?

    By cutting out both the top and the bottom you fix it?

  • di butler

    It wasn’t a shot, I was truly asking. I also don’t live in Bama, hence the native Bama part. I just grew up there. I live just outside of Atlanta. In any event, it seems to be making the workers happy, and I never have heard/ read of any of the townpeople complaining about the tax burdens from the plant, so whatever. Just wondered why they weren’t squealing for a taste of the money trough.

  • Doug

    Retire the over 55.
    Close all the Chrysler except Jeep, Dodge Truck.
    Close all the Pontiac, Buick, and Saturn and GMC.\
    Ditch Ford Taurus, Chevy Cobalt
    Keep Chevy and Ford Trucks
    Keep Caddy and Hummer and Corvette.
    Keep Linclon cars and SUVs
    Keep Suburban and Explorer and Mustang.
    Keep all Chevy and Ford Commercial Vans/Trucks.
    Retool the rest to procude hybrids and electrics.

    Make one vehicle that runs on nothing but the gas
    coming out of Washington DC. he.he.

  • Rezistik

    Mickey who are you to say that there is no factory worker worth the amount of money they’re paid?

    If anyone can do it why do they have such high wages?

  • Pfeh

    For the benefit of Rezistik, let’s make sure the differences between Chapter 11 and Chapter 7 bankruptcy are understood.

    Chapter 11 – Bankruptcy protection while re-organizing. A company emerges from Chapter 11 with more efficient business practices, re-negotiated debts, etc. This is generally a good thing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapter_11,_Title_11,_United_States_Code
    Chapter 7 – Liquidation of a bankrupt company. The company ceases to exist after this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapter_7,_Title_11,_United_States_Code

    To continue talking like GM going into Bankruptcy means that it would go chapter 7 is nonsense. Letting GM go bankrupt means that it will go Chapter 11, the courts will evaluate the re-organization plan, and when the company emerges from bankruptcy protection it will be stronger as a result.

    GM has far too many assets to be forced into Chapter 7.

  • Rezistik

    I’m not saying a restructure isn’t in order but to simply allow such a large company to go bankrupt would hurt the economy more then helping the company.

    Living in the Detroit Metro area, I can guarantee that a lot of people working in Ford, GM and other auto plants lack diplomas.

    I never said it was Rob’s fault I was questioning his methodology of fixing the economy, seeing as neither of us are in a position to *actually* see that things are done our way it is more of debating what would be best overall.

    Bailing them out would salve over the wound that is the Detroit Automobile Industry, it certainly wouldn’t fix the problem but combining the Bailout with an economic restructure would do worlds better then simply letting them fail or throwing money at them.

  • http://bullwinkleblog.com/ Bullwinkle

    GM has far too many assets to be forced into Chapter 7.

    Here’s an idea that seems to be ignored:

    Maybe, just maybe, they should either sell off some of those assets and bail their own inefficient, bloated asses out or fail.

    Just like everybody else in business. Sink or swim.

  • HG

    Letting GM die would leave a lot of people jobless, people who didn’t finish school and who would find it hard to find new work. How would that help the economy?

    I read this an think why do some people expect something business cannot provide — a market for their product, much less a market in spite of their failures. Let them fail, it’s what makes the market better. Jeez, it’s as if government is responsible for sustaining markets. This is just crazy thinking in a free market.

  • http://www.myspace.com/thekingscourt4u Gman

    Will it end with GM? Are not Chrysler and Ford close behind in failure? It would take alot more than 25 billion.

    I heard today that you could buy all three of the ‘Big Three’ for about 30 billion dollars total.

    Why the hell are we thinking of pouring 25 Billion into companies that will fail anyway.

    There is no way to keep them going when it cost’s them $2000 per car just for retired union pukes health care.

    Why can the Jap companies do it for $300 per car, and the workers are much happier than the ones at the ‘Big Three’.

    I have friends that work at both, and all the ones in Detroit can do is bitch about how the management is screwing them, when the ones that work for Honda in Tennessee, love their company and their managers.

    The whole Car industry in the US is a propped up cluster f*ck and should be let to die a slow and painful death along with the stupid Democrats in Michigan, and elsewhere, who keep perpetuating the myth of Union workers.

    I have worked many jobs along side current and former union employees. Not one of them knew the meaning of the word work. Many times they were getting paid double what I was just for being in the f*cking union, but they would sit around waiting for a union electrician to come and plug in the cement mixer so we could go start for the day’s LABOR.

    I was a non-union block tender, and was working my ass off to supply 5 brick layers with cement and bricks. I brought one of them a bucket of mud, when his board was about half empty. I came back about 20 minutes later to see if he needed more, and he was sitting there smoking a cig, with the full bucket of mud sitting next to the empty board.

    I asked him what was up, and he said “It’s a tender’s job to dump the mud on the board.” and that if he got injured dumping the mud onto the board, that his union insurance and disability policy wouldn’t pay for the injury.

    This was a guy that weighed about 450LBS and smoked. Guess who gets to pay his damned medical policy for the rest of his life. All you other stupid union bastards.

    The best you can hope for is a heart attack at about 45 so you don’t have to keep the fat f*ck alive.

    This is the shit that goes on at the car companies.

    Story 2,

    My wife worked as a rehab counselor in the Twin Cities, and had a client who was injured by slipping on ice getting out of a truck that he had driven from the end of the line to the yard.

    He had a 4th grade education and couldn’t read, but was making $32 an hour for doing a check list as he drove the truck out onto the lot.

    He couldn’t read the check list, and someone needed to teach him what all the points on the check list meant, but when he got injured, he was getting paid the difference between the minimum wage job that he could get after the injury, and the $32 per hour that he was earning pre-injury by the state of Minnesota.

    This is what the Libs have wrought.

    DON’T BAIL THEM OUT. MAKE THEM RESTRUCTURE AND GET RID OF THE UNIONS.

  • http://www.rabidamerican.net/ Rabid American

    Chapter 11/Reorg/F$%^ the UAW/End CAFE standards…..

    That’s the only bailout plan that would make any sense.

    Get the union leaches off the payroll. Quit letting them run every freaking thing! They have long outlived their usefulness!

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I see NO excuse for bailing them out unless they drastically restructure.

    Just giving them the money is a transfer of money to people that are undeserving.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Doing any kind of bailout without massive restructuring is just dumping money in a black hole.

    They aren’t talking about doing what needs to be done so therefore why bail them out.

    I agree having our auto makers go into bankruptcy is a less than optimal solution. But the auto makers and the UAW should be coming up with a plan to head that off.

  • di butler

    I saw somewhere today where GM will have to file bankruptcy with or without the bailout. So why prolong the inevitable, at the cost of everyone else? This is ridiculous union rules, CAFE standards, and environmental policies. So unless you change these things, nothing gets better.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    Letting GM die would leave a lot of people jobless, people who didn’t finish school and who would find it hard to find new work. How would that help the economy?

    How does it help the economy to make the jobs those people work at a burden on the rest of the nation?

    Also, what impetus would those workers ever have to improve themselves, and move into better jobs, if we just keep propping up the status quo?

    I mean, where do we draw the line? Should we just bail out every failing business in the nation so that nobody ever has to lose their job?

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    they have made it impossible for a company like GM to succeed

    And through their cronies in Congress, with this bailout they’re hoping to make it impossible for GM to fail too.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    GM has far too many assets to be forced into Chapter 7.

    Undoubtedly true, though I don’t really care what form of bankruptcy GM goes into. Some economic Darwinism needs to take place. The old and busted needs to go, the new and workable needs to take its place.

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