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Monday, May 05, 2008

Leno Slams Democrats On ANWR

The truth hurts:

I wonder how long the Democrats are going to be able to play populist on gas prices - promising to try and lower prices - while simultaneously promoting punishing new taxes for the oil industry that will only make the price of gasoline go higher.

You can’t have it both ways.  If we want lower gas prices the government needs to get out of the way of the oil industry.  More taxes and more regulations aren’t going to do anything but exacerbate an already bad situation.

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Maybe now something will be done on ANWAR.  Liberals can not stand jokes against themselves.


Communism is evil

Chief RZ on May 5, 2008 at 12:33 pm

The first step would be to get liberal Democrats to acknowledge that they don’t know squat about free market economics.

Contrary to Democrats’ talking points, the answer to each and every problem is not more regulation and more taxation and more government control over the economic activities of Americans.  Usually, the correct answer is less government… not more.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on May 5, 2008 at 12:45 pm

Chief: Liberalism is its own joke! Any jokes about them are thus redundant!


No matter the age or state of health, for a military man it is always glorious to tilt at windmills, rescue a fair Dulcinea and be a gallant knight in armor in a glorious cause.

Neiman on May 5, 2008 at 12:50 pm

Neiman.  I agree, but they take themselves too seriously and one way to “crack the nut” (no pun intended) is by humor--in this case, directed at them.


Communism is evil

Chief RZ on May 5, 2008 at 12:59 pm

Sorry, guys, but the dems aren’t the only skunks on the Anwar debacle.  From 2001 to 2006, the GOP had a majority in congress and controlled the White House. No proposal to drill in Anwar ever made it to first base. 

What is it about Anwar that makes it impossible to get anything done there?


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

pparets on May 5, 2008 at 02:34 pm

pparets,

I believe ANWR drilling bills made it to the Senate and then died of filibuster during that time frame.


Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destoyed”

Rodney Graves on May 5, 2008 at 02:40 pm

RGraves:  Interesting. One wonders why there weren’t enough votes to envoke cloture?


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

pparets on May 5, 2008 at 02:46 pm

pparets,

RINO’s.


Out Here
Rodney G. Graves

Ceterum censeo Parthia esse delendam
Latin: “Furthermore, Parthia (Persia aka modern day Iran) should be destoyed”

Rodney Graves on May 5, 2008 at 02:52 pm

One wonders why there weren’t enough votes to envoke cloture?

60 votes to invoke cloture.

There were not enough Republicans to push it through. Democrats and a few idiot RINOs are against drilling in the ANWR wasteland.

likwidshoe on May 5, 2008 at 02:53 pm

Likwidshoe & RGraves:  ... which brings us back to my original question…


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

pparets on May 5, 2008 at 03:07 pm

Accounting for the RINOs, who vote like Democrats yet call themselves Republicans, there was no “Republican majority”.

A cloture vote was impossible on this subject. We never had 60 people in the Senate.

likwidshoe on May 5, 2008 at 03:29 pm

Sorry, Likwid:  My original question was:

What is it about Anwr that makes it impossible to get anyhting done there?

Do you have any idea?


"Here lies, in honored glory, an American soldier, known but to God.”

The stakes are high. Whether the issue is the economy, or energy, or the federal courts or national security, the right answers are coming not from the Democrats, but from the Republicans. The surge of operations that began a year ago is succeeding. The only way to lose this fight is to quit. Richard M. Cheney, Vice President, 30 May, 2008

pparets on May 5, 2008 at 03:33 pm

Do you have any idea?

I believe so.

ANWR has been sold to the public as belonging to “the people”, which means that nobody can do anything on the land. It is effectively off-limits.

Just listen to the arguments against drilling. When you get past the misguided albeit altruistic environmental concerns, you’ll run into talk of how the oil companies are stealing “the people’s” resources and how this nation shouldn’t allow exploitation because a “greedy” company would profit.

likwidshoe on May 5, 2008 at 03:38 pm

What is it about Anwar that makes it impossible to get anything done there?

A lot of it has to do with the fact that nobody knows what the hell tundra is. When most people hear ANWR, they think of Yosemite or Yellowstone.

Anybody who’s actually spent time in tundra, like my wife, says go ahead and drill.

Wing Chun Geologist on May 5, 2008 at 06:24 pm

Let me guess who those RINOs were that voted against ANWR: Snowe, Collins, Chaffey,....am I warm.


""That’s the problem with you lefties, you’re not willing to get your hands dirty. I’d suggest you roll up your sleeves.”

-Jack Bauer

Hoss on May 5, 2008 at 06:45 pm

The only sacred frozen tundra is Lambeau Field.

Mickey on May 5, 2008 at 07:05 pm

How’d all that oil get in ANWR anyway?  I mean… what organic stuff would grow in the tundra… unless it was warm and fertile there at one time… but without President Bush, how could it have been warm there?

Not trying to hijack the thread, but… ummm… had to be said… sorry?

Paulie B on May 5, 2008 at 07:19 pm

Paulie, the traditional ‘oil only from decayed organics’ has lost much of its steam with every oil discovery in areas that are unlikely to have decayed organics.

No wonder the non-organic theory is slowly gaining wider acceptance as an alternative to the organic theory. Robert O. Russell, a wellsite geologist at the first well in North America (at Fort McMurray, Alberta, Canada) drilled into crystalline basement granitic shield rocks for the express purpose of commercial hydrocarbon exploration, has pointed out that there are more than 400 wells and fields worldwide, both off-shore and on-shore that produce or have recently produced oil from igneous rocks7. This fact alone indicates that many aspects relating to the origin of petroleum need to be revised. Thomas Gold8, a distinguished proponent of the non-organic theory, has expanded the application of the non-organic theory to all hydrocarbons, including coal.


The Supreme Court is a bunch of black robed tyrants

docdave on May 5, 2008 at 07:57 pm
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I mean no offense to “pparets” when I say that it was like talking to a brick wall prior to the 2006 election when pointing out the simple fact that legislation that would allow drilling in forbidden locations like the ANWR was being denied cloture in the Senate because even if all 55 Republicans voted to end debate, all 44 Democrats and Sanders did not and cloture requires 60 votes.  Instead the response was “throw the bums out” every time.  And now how much chance does such legislation have?  None.  Momentum went the opposite way, in fact.

The Authority on May 6, 2008 at 01:54 am
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