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Friday, August 08, 2008

Left Wing Group To Threaten Republican Donors With Legal Action And Public Disclosure

This sounds pretty sinister...

Nearly 10,000 of the biggest donors to Republican candidates and causes across the country will probably receive a foreboding “warning” letter in the mail next week.

The letter is an opening shot across the bow from an unusual new outside political group on the left that is poised to engage in hardball tactics to prevent similar groups on the right from getting off the ground this fall.

Led by Tom Matzzie, a liberal political operative who has been involved with some prominent left-wing efforts in recent years, the newly formed nonprofit group, Accountable America, is planning to confront donors to conservative groups, hoping to create a chilling effect that will dry up contributions.

“We want to stop the Swift Boating before it gets off the ground,” said Mr. Matzzie, who described his effort as “going for the jugular.”

The warning letter is intended as a first step, alerting donors who might be considering giving to right-wing groups to a variety of potential dangers, including legal trouble, public exposure and watchdog groups digging through their lives.

So if you, as a private citizen, make a contribution to a group these guys don’t like they’ll come after you.  They’ll sue you.  They’ll try to embarrass you.  And they’re telling you this ahead of times in the hopes of coercing you into not supporting political groups with your money.

Does this sort of thuggery and intimidation really have a place in American politics?  Outside of the obvious chilling effect it would have on free political speech (and yes, political contributions are an extension of free speech) if these guys have any sort of success all it’s going to do is drive currently relatively transparent political contributions underground.

Rather than openly supporting candidates and political causes big-money donors will instead try to hide their support.  I don’t think that’s something that benefits any of us.

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I’m not in a position to be “eligible” to receive such a letter, but I think that if I did, I’d be tempted to dig deep and make SURE that those who would expose the hypocrisy of the left got the funding they needed to do so.

Come to think of it, maybe.....I’ll see what I can do.

And the idiocy to think that sponsoring political speech opens one up to legal liability....the only liability being opened here is for the counter-suit to bankrupt Mr. Matzzie and his group.

Bike Bubba on August 8, 2008 at 09:22 am
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You would hope this kind of stupidity would be roundly denounced by the mainstream Democrats.

But you know they won’t.


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Rob on August 8, 2008 at 09:24 am

Rob… maybe you should have checked the Recent Reader Entries first.


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pparets on August 8, 2008 at 09:29 am

It’s a guise used by nearly every 2-bit dictatorship worldwide.
THe ironic thing is that the left exclaims that it’s the right that uses jackbooted tactics......


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RebTex on August 8, 2008 at 09:31 am

Sadly, this is the tactic of choice of the left these days.

They have to limit debate,regardless of topic, because they are incapable of arguing on the basis of the underlying facts.

Carrick on August 8, 2008 at 09:34 am

This is just another gift to the American people from McCain/Feingold.


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on August 8, 2008 at 09:43 am
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In other words, they’re just like labor unions!

WhatTha? on August 8, 2008 at 09:50 am

This is just another gift to the American people from McCain/Feingold.

How are unethical tactics of the left a “gift of McCain/Feingold”?  Connect the dots there for us.

Carrick on August 8, 2008 at 10:24 am

I think what 108 is getting at here is that campaign finance law lists the names and occupations of donors on publicly available documents, creating the database by which they can be harassed. 

I’m not quite sure it was started with McCain-Lenin-Feingold, but 108’s got a decent point that the practice overall allows donors to be harassed for their views.

A good spanking at the polls, or a harassment lawsuit, will hopefully cure these clowns of this foolishness.

Bike Bubba on August 8, 2008 at 10:34 am

This is just another gift to the American people from McCain/Feingold.

R108- My thoughts exactly. With the ways to express our preferences in candidates and parties and issues limited by the inane McCain Feingold restrictions, it was only a matter of time before some deranged leftie would come up with something like this. And I should vote for him? F*** that noise.

Good Ol Boy on August 8, 2008 at 10:37 am

BB: That’s part of it, but the worst of it is that the sixty day limitation spawned the creation of the 527 groups, which allowed Soros to get his fingers in our political pie, big time, and also empowers the MSM, which is not limited by McCain/Feingold.  As we know, Soros has lots of influence in the MSM.
McCain/Feingold is a constant finger poked in the eye of the American public.
It is ironic, IMO, that his own legislation might help defeat McCain, since the leftie domination of the public political discourse is set to begin in less than thirty days.  McCain/Feingold is bad for America, in many ways.


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on August 8, 2008 at 10:38 am

This is a typical leftie tactic: when you don’t have the truth on your side, try to win by intimidation.


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on August 8, 2008 at 10:47 am

Carrick: I thought it was obvious, but hope that my explanation, and that of others, has satisfied you.  I was preparing a longer article on the subject, because it will become a big factor in less than thirty days, but maybe this will be enough to bring it to our attention.


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on August 8, 2008 at 10:50 am

McCain/Feingold, warts and whatnot, is unrelated to what amounts to dirty tactics.  They did the same thing in the last election (tried to suppress the SVBT adds via legal threats), but it is unrelated to McCain/Feingold per say.

The only point in favor of a connection relates to whether “open donor” requirements enable these sorts of dirty tactics.  While that is true, that sort of legislation did not start with McCain/Feingold (see the Federal Election
Campaign Act of 1971).

Overall this is a very weak argument.  You can’t legislate moral behavior, but blaming legislative attempts to do so for immoral acts is really quite bizarre, IMHO.

Carrick on August 8, 2008 at 11:01 am

Overall this is a very weak argument.

That might be due to the fact that you stated it incompletely.  The real problem is not so much the empowering of groups that do this sort of thing, but the disempowering of groups that are able to fight it.  As you should know, when the criminal(and terrorist) element knows that it won’t face opposition, it grows stronger and bolder.  This is what McCain/Feingold has produced for us.


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on August 8, 2008 at 11:09 am

The real problem is not so much the empowering of groups that do this sort of thing, but the disempowering of groups that are able to fight it.

This isn’t a restatement of what BB said, it’s a completely different argument.

How does McCain/Feingold “disempower” groups that can fight this sort of thing?  They are all on the same footing legally.  Indeed, the success of the SVBT campaign indeed seems to be a counter example to your argument.

I would say that sunshine laws have a place in politics.  The problem isn’t with them (inc. MF), or with the limits on special interest groups, but the free pass that liberal groups get with our MSM when they employ despicable tactics such as these.

Carrick on August 8, 2008 at 11:14 am

Does anyone else find it more than a little ironic that attacks on the sanctity of our political process like this, or attacks on the sanctity of a private ballot such as the so-called “Employee Free Choice Act” are condoned and sponsored by people so presumptuous as to call themselves “Democrats”?

Of course, Eric Hoenecker headed up the People’s Democratic Republic of Germany and Kim Il Sung was the dictator who ran the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea, and both of those monsters were proud to call themselves democrats too.


“Poverty of goods is easily cured; poverty of the mind is irreparable.”

Bat One on August 8, 2008 at 11:21 am

Bat: Sometimes, “guilt by association” is really “birds of a feather flock together”.  Good call.


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on August 8, 2008 at 11:28 am

This isn’t a restatement of what BB said, it’s a
completely different argument.

And I offered it as such.  I never claimed it was a restatement of something I stated in the first place.
My original statement that this was a consequence of McCain/Feingold is accurate as stated.  Trying to nitpick the details doesn’t change that fact.  McCain/Feingold changed our political landscape for the worse in many ways.  An incomplete list of those changes isn’t a counter-argument to original truth.


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on August 8, 2008 at 12:05 pm

We’re back to the futility of trying to discuss anything with you again.

Carrick on August 8, 2008 at 01:42 pm

Most wealthy individuals already practice caution in their lives. These leftys are rank amatures.

Mickey on August 8, 2008 at 03:01 pm

We’re back to the futility of trying to discuss anything with you again.

It is futile to try to limit me to your parameters in this discussion, I agree.

If you want to discuss the effects of McCain/Feingold on this election, please go ahead.  If you want to snipe at me, good luck.


Leftie political philosophy, from a DU commenter:

It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH. The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet: Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

robert108 on August 8, 2008 at 04:07 pm
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How is this a surprise? Fascism is Leftism, and mostly vice versa.

Anonymous on August 8, 2008 at 08:53 pm
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