Latest Sticker From Move On Dot Org

  •  July 11, 2009

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It says “Clean Energy for America”, but is it just my imagination, or do those wispy “clouds” in the sky at the top vaguely resemble Africa, India and Asia, maybe Australia stylized in there, left to right?
“We are the world”, right?
That’s a new sticker offered by Move-On dot org absotively free! Of course, they would like it if you contributed something, but if you’d like them to waste their money and send you something you won’t use, you can contact them here.
If you feel it encourages the poor buggers to get that much attention, then you can just sit this one out!
Still not quite sure how carbon taxes on coal are going to reduce our dependency on foreign oil, but I’m sure some nice man from the government would be happy to explain it to us!
Cross Posted at Proof Positive

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  • http://Array carrick

    pparets, you’re being a bit silly here: What you are showing is literally a bird’s eye view of the wind mills. If we had wings, this would be relevant.

    From shore, they are barely even visible.

    Spartacus:

    Which I’m just guessing =

    Yep. Exactly. This is a good reference.

    If Obama wanted to institute a national project akin to Eisenhower’s interstate system, a revitalized power grid would be a good start.

  • Pilgrim

    Proof,

    At forst I looked at that and said, huh? But tghen, I looked closer and I think you’re right.

    That’s far too similar to a stylized map of the world (keeping with the one world mindset of the left) to be coincidental.

  • carrick

    Spartacus:

    Can you explain the rolling blackouts?

    Antiquated and totally chaotically “designed” grid system.

    The problem right now for wind turbines is getting the power from them to the end user.

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    This is another form of visual polution we have propping up all over the Midwest. I am not a big fan of them and they are an eye sore.

  • carrick

    Here is an article discussing the 2007 NAS study on threats to bird populations.

    There are steps you can take to increase your wild fowl population. (However, I reject out of hand the obvious solution of genetically modifying birds to be smart enough to avoid running into stationary objects.)

  • http://www.willisms.com/ Zsa Zsa

    Is that Obama’s face I see behind the windmill?

  • carrick

    Hannitized:

    You don’t like windmills offshore, but you like the looks of oil drills in the middle of Alaskan wildlife????

    The oil rigs in a small section of frozen arctic tundra bothers me not a bit.

    As to “in the middle of Alaskan wildlife”… well, I think you need to do a bit of research here.

    You’d find the Alaskan wildlife amounts to maybe one large animal per square mile in that area of the world (that’s all it supports). Read: It’s a barren wasteland, and they are only talking of opening a fraction of it to drilling…

    The “protect the wildlife” meme is as silly here as it is with respect to bird populations and wind mills.

  • ellinas

    Is that Obama’s face I see behind the windmill?
    Zsa Zsa on July 10, 2009 at 02:37 pm

    No! That is Aeolus. The mythological Greek god of the winds.
    Go get your eyes checked lady.

  • carrick

    Pparets:

    From the shore, about a half-mile away in the background?

    Typically they are more like 8-km off shore. That shot has the shore a lot farther away than 1/2 mile.

    And of course, the shot is totally dishonest as I pointed out above.

    So your best argument really is NIMBA?

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Poofie picked on a person from YouTube, not me.

    So, you stole that quote without attribution or quotation marks or using the “quote” HTML code?

    How competent of you! /sarcasm

  • Hannitized

    Meanwhile, up in the right hand corner you see the “Conservative Blog Advertising” sign looking very identical. *shrugs*

  • sayanything-5371

    When we have our next record cold winter, which will be due to “climate change”, AKA the Great Liberal Scam, there will be some ferocious energy bills that all these liberals voted for us. What short sighted idiots liberals are.

  • Hannitized

    Here is a video of the Windmills of Livermore, CA. These have been there long before Obama was ever in politics.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFJjlj3iPlk

    And..

    In the middle of nowhere in the Southern California desert are thousands of windmills providing electricity to surrounding cities. It’s a magnificant sight against the beautiful mountains.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu3EyzOYpGY&feature=related

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    This is another form of visual polution we have propping up all over the Midwest

    Yeah. I saw a bunch of them when I was on Maui last month and I was less than impressed!

  • pparets

    It’s a magnificant sight against the beautiful mountains.

    I wonder, Hannitized, if you will think its such a “magnificent sight” when they infest the coast line, mountains and beaches where you live? Of course, in Hawaii, they may put them off-shore in the water, hundreds and hundreds of them.

    Pretty, aren’t they?

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    We will spread our ideas of clean energy across the world……it’s a conspiracy.

    If you want a sticker for the back of your Big Wheel, Wankertized, click on the link and they’ll send you one!
    If you have trouble clicking on the link…I wouldn’t be surprised!

  • Spartacus

    In the middle of nowhere in the Southern California desert are thousands of windmills providing electricity to surrounding cities. It’s a magnificant sight against the beautiful mountains.

    That is truly awesome. You’ve convinced me that this is the way to go. Except for one thing. Can you explain the rolling blackouts? How do they work and why are they great?

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Here’s a timeline for you, Lying courtesan:

    I say, “Hey, that looks kinda like a map!”

    Ignorant troll who can’t tell his arse from a hole in the ground says, “it’s a conspiracy.”

    You say, I posted about something “nefarious”.

    For the ADD and reading impaired, follow this closely:

    It looks like a map!

    I will leave it to you Masters of Projection (or Hannitized, the Master of Baiters) to tell us all what that means. I think it means:

    It looks like a map!

    It’s a little strange to draw clouds that look like a map, but I think that’s what the artist was going for!

    BTW, Lying courtesan: When people start comparing the quality of your posts to those of Hannitized, you’re really in the crapper!

  • Rezistik

    Why does everything from recent liberal designers scream socialist propaganda from the twenties+?

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Here is a video of the Windmills of Livermore, CA.

    Nothing wrong with wind power…if it pays for itself! Many of the windmills in Livermore were built as little more than tax shelters back in the ’80′s…heavily subsidized by state and local taxes.

    It’s a magnificant (sic) sight against the beautiful mountains.

    Much like Hannitized’s spelling skills, the sight is not that magnificent!

  • pparets

    Proof…. I’m not seeing any link.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Why does everything from recent liberal designers scream socialist propaganda from the twenties+?

    Nostalgia?

  • Spartacus

    Carrick:

    The problem right now for wind turbines is getting the power from them to the end user.

    Which I’m just guessing =

    Antiquated and totally chaotically “designed” grid system.

  • http://www.dartemis.net/blog/ sayanything-42

    Rob,

    Be sure to return any SASE envelopes they send you stuffed full of the flyers and crap from the other leftards you receive mail from! It wastes their time and their money!

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    pparets: The word “here”. Second ‘graph.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    You post this thread claiming that their (sic) is some sort of nefarious motive based on your interpretation of the artwork.

    Boy! Talk about people that are none too bright! I posted this as an example of Moooove On dot org with their hand out again asking for money. I even gave them free publicity in case any of you brain dead libs wanted a sticker for your very own.
    I did think it curious that the stylized map of the world was there, but I never said there was anything nefarious or sinister about it. You kooks on the Left have been the only ones volunteering conspiracy squawking!

    “is it just my imagination, or do those wispy “clouds” in the sky at the top vaguely resemble” equals “nefarious” in what passes for your mind, Lying courtesan?

    Have you been taking vocabulary lessons from Hannitized? Are you completely clueless as to what “nefarious” means???

    You just assume that anytime the US is involved with the rest of the world it is bad.

    Wow! Now you’re just pulling stuff out of your ass! Why don’t you try analyzing what I actually said, rather than co-opting Hannitized’s mind reading act?

    You both really suck at it!

  • Hannitized

    We will spread our ideas of clean energy across the world……it’s a conspiracy.

    Some people have too much time on their hands.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Have fun showing everyone how petty you are Poofie.

    I have more fun pointing people to threads where you have your ass handed to you and you run away shrieking like a little girl.

  • Spartacus

    ^ can we burn dirty coal too?!

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Again, for those with short memories, one of the problems with wind and solar power is that you need to duplicate your generation capacity for when the sun doesn’t shine and the wind doesn’t blow. That raises your costs significantly.

  • Spartacus

    ^ and why does China get to burn bituminous coal to generate electricity while clean coal is not an option here? can we burn dirty coal too?

  • sayanything-5371

    Might as well have a hammer and sickle for their logo. Scratch a Green, find a Red.

  • Hannitized

    I wonder, Hannitized, if you will think its such a “magnificent sight” when they infest the coast line, mountains and beaches where you live? Of course, in Hawaii, they may put them off-shore in the water, hundreds and hundreds of them.

    I lived in Fremont, it was just a hop, skip and jump from Livermore and I was out there all the time. They weren’t in anybody line of sight.

    Also, I didn’t write that bit of info regarding LA’s windmills…that was a cut and paste from YouTube.

    Poofie picked on a person from YouTube, not me.

    And it windmills are far out at sea, it certainly is no more of an eyesore of all the condo and apartment complexes here in honolulu.

    I prefer to keep them down to a minimum, but the power plant out in Nanakuli isn’t any beautiful sight. Neither are nuclear power plants.

    What is your point?

  • carrick

    Goon:

    I am afraid that we are going to have all of these god awful wind farms and they are going to have a negative impact on my water fowl that is migrating throw the state.

    Do you realize you are channeling ecowhackoism here?

    There may be good arguments against wind mills, but their affect on wild fowl is not one of them.

    A tree is as dangerous if not more so (it doesn’t have visibly moving parts) as a wind mill (and yes you do lose ducks to tree-bird collisions, they just are that stupid).

    The wind mill=Cuisinart argument has been long ago debunked. If you want to reduce the loss of wild fowl, take steps to curb your feral cat population.. that is a much bigger threat.

  • pparets

    What is your point?

    Here’s my point.

    You would the defend the Black Plague if it was a democrat initiative.

  • carrick

    Hannitized:

    Not as bad as the power plant on the beach in Nanakuli!

    Well, exactly.

    Not nearly as ugly or smelly or hazardous as any polluting industrial plant located along a waterway either.

    I could come up with what I think would be salient arguments against windmill power, but my only real objection is the misapplication of federal pressure to get it adopted without addressing power transmission and storage issues.

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    Yeah. I saw a bunch of them when I was on Maui last month and I was less than impressed!

    I am less than impressed with them here in ND as well. I am afraid that we are going to have all of these god awful wind farms and they are going to have a negative impact on my water fowl that is migrating throw the state. I am sick and tired of this false sciene being force fed to us.

  • pparets

    From shore, they are barely even visible.

    From the shore, about a half-mile away in the background?

    Pretty, aren’t they, Carrick?

    I see them frequently about 600 feet away on the Pennsylvania Turnpike. Ghastly.

  • Neiman

    I don’t like to think about Altamont Pass, I had life-and-death experiences up there twice; but, in all these years since I cannot recall hearing any outrage about problems being caused by their existence. It is or at least was the world’s largest with 4900 windmills and producing 125 MW of power, 1.1 terawatt-hours (TWh) yearly.

    So, a non-polutting, relatively cheap source of power that doesn’t cause many problems to anyone but liberals like Ted “I kill my date” Kennedy.

  • Hannitized

    PP,

    You don’t like windmills offshore, but you like the looks of oil drills in the middle of Alaskan wildlife????

  • Hannitized

    So, you stole that quote without attribution or quotation marks or using the “quote” HTML code?

    Yup, I burrowed it and linked to it. Now what? Cry some more?

  • Hannitized

    From the shore, about a half-mile away in the background?

    Pretty, aren’t they, Carrick?

    Not as bad as the power plant on the beach in Nanakuli!

  • Hannitized

    No. Just wanted to point out to everyone what an asshole you are. Mission accomplished!

    I am an asshole because I cut and pasted what the author of the video I linked to wrote? Ok, what ever.

    Good thing you aren’t a woman, because I would be home alone tonight, like you instead of getting picked up by my stunning girl friend, who wants to take me to dinner tonight, and then for a night out in Waiks.

    I think i will wear the new shirt she bought for me. Have fun showing everyone how petty you are Poofie.

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Yup, I burrowed it and linked to it. Now what? Cry some more?

    No. Just wanted to point out to everyone what an asshole you are. Mission accomplished!

  • Hannitized

    Nice pic, but I would rather these things not be right on the beach.

  • Hannitized

    I could come up with what I think would be salient arguments against windmill power, but my only real objection is the misapplication of federal pressure to get it adopted without addressing power transmission and storage issues.

    Exactly. And, I rather not see anything at all. Not windmills, not oil drills, not power plants. I rather we harness energy miraculously, but we have to do something.

    Also, i think wind mills in hawaii could create an artificial reef, and that could do the island of Oahu a tremendous amount of good.

  • robert108

    You don’t like windmills offshore, but you like the looks of oil drills in the middle of Alaskan wildlife????

    The windmills are a waste of time, space and taxpayer money, whereas the oil platforms produce something we need, generate massive amounts of revenue, and produce real, self-sustaining jobs.
    Big difference.

  • carrick

    Here’s a beautific picture of from New Jersey.

    Note: This isn’t a consequence of those ugly windmills.

  • Hannitized

    Fair enough Carrick.

    I used to live in Santa Barbera, and a daily visit to Goleta Beach, or any beach in that area usually meant a dat putting gasoline on your feet to get the tar off. Tons of tar, from oil spills in the middle of the ocean.

    Im not saying I am environmentalist, I don’t give money to Greenpeace and i argued with them abut the idea of windmills being a “replacement” to other types of energy. I see it as a supplement.

  • robert108

    Tons of tar, from oil spills in the middle of the ocean.

    All of it from natural seeps offshore(not”the middle of the ocean, the platforms only go out about five miles from shore); the local Indians used it to caulk their canoes long before there were any drilling platforms. If you had really ever lived in SB, you would know that.

  • Lioncourt

    Boy! Talk about people that are none too bright! I posted this as an example of Moooove On dot org with their hand out again asking for money. I even gave them free publicity in case any of you brain dead libs wanted a sticker for your very own.
    I did think it curious that the stylized map of the world was there, but I never said there was anything nefarious or sinister about it. You kooks on the Left have been the only ones volunteering conspiracy squawking!

    Bullshit.

    The first paragraph you write about is the pictures.

    You aren’t even honest enough to admit your motive for this post.

  • robert108

    However you parse it, that sticker is bullshit. Windmills will never supply enough energy for a vibrant, prosperous economy. In fact, they drain capital needed for real energy needs.

  • Lioncourt

    I have more fun pointing people to threads where you have your ass handed to you and you run away shrieking like a little girl.

    Probably because you aren’t bright enough to do anything else. You post this thread claiming that their is some sort of nefarious motive based on your interpretation of the artwork. But even if your interpretation of the artwork is true, you don’t explain what the nefarious plot is. Because you don’t know. You just assume that anytime the US is involved with the rest of the world it is bad.

  • Hannitized

    At least I’m not a wanker obsessed with my shirts!

    Meh. Well, you got the not obsessed about your shirts part right. You got a little ahead of yourself on the wanker part.

    What did you do tonight?

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    I think i will wear the new shirt she bought for me.

    At least I’m not a wanker obsessed with my shirts!

  • http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/ proof_positive

    Ok, what ever.

    No, you’re an asshole because you took what someone else wrote and made it look like your own. That’s what “without attribution” means!

    Plus, it’s not that hard to make you look like an asshole, Wankertized. Basically, I just have to quote you!

  • http://sayanythingblog.com robport

    I always sign up for all the liberal mailing lists so they waste money sending me stuff.

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