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I hate to nitpick but Rob says that

Just so you have this straight, La Raza - "the largest national Hispanic civil rights and advocacy organization in the United States" - feels that "patriotism" and "traditional American values" are "dangerous" to hispanics living in this country.

but the original passage quotes La Raza staffer as warning that

“while it doesn’t overtly mention assimilation, it is very strong on the patriotism and traditional american values language in a way which is potentially dangerous to our communities.”

The staffer appears not to say that patriotism and traditional American values are dangerous but that the way that they are presented is dangerous. I don’t know where Rob got his quote so i can’t read the whole thing but this may be an unfair characterisation of the memo. 

Sorry Mike, forgot to link the source.

The whole memo isn’t available, but the details on the law are there.

The war against illegal plunder has been fought since the beginning of the world. But how is… legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime. Then abolish this law without delay … If such a law is not abolished immediately it will spread, multiply and develop into a system.

Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

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The staffer appears not to say that patriotism and traditional American values are dangerous but that the way that they are presented is dangerous. 

So wait, who’s nitpicking here?  Sounds like the same sh*t to me.  Let’s face it, La Raza is not an American advocacy group, it’s a racist group.

I just hope it they keep advocating mass demonstrations the like we have already seen.  Because if they keep that up, there won’t be an honest American alive who would sympathize with their situation.

MikeA: You leave out the part where becoming Americans is called "assimilation".  I thought that was the idea behind immigration;  to assimilate into the country one immigrates to.  I think the memo is quite clear that they regard "assimilation" as "potentially dangerous" to "our communities".  It seems obvious to me that they have no intention to become part of the US.

My question is why is the FBI not treating"The Race" in the same way they treat the KKK or Black Panthers? Why are they allowed to be a racist, criminal organization while Blacks and Whites are prosecuted for the same activity? Just curious.

Assimilate? Americans are not the Borg, we are a stew of people swimming in a roux of spice.

They are only interested in yours and mine tax dollars.  A free ride.  So long as we’re drivin’ they are ridin’.

 A short list of La Razas radical supporters

The Allstate Corporation
Bank of America
The Coca-Cola Company
Citigroup
Fannie Mae
Freddie Mac
Ford Motor Company
General Motors Corporation
MBNA Corporation
PepsiCo Foundation
The PMI Group, Inc.
State Farm Insurance Companies
UPS
Univision
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.

WOOF,

Supporters?  How are these corporations "supporters" of La Raza?

Also, exactly what is the point you are trying to make?  That large US corporations are interested in marketing their products and services to the largest minority group (Hispanics) in the country?  That’s not exactly news, now is it?  In case you weren’t aware of this, even liberal Democrats are allowed to buy Cokes, Ford Expedition SUV’s, and shop at WalMart stores. 

They give La Raza money, that’s how they support.

How much? Break it down by individual donations.

Pepsico,,,say no more!

r108 said

I thought that was the idea behind immigration; to assimilate into the country one immigrates to.

Not necessarily...it depends on the society. 

Well, Mike, here in America that is necessarily what it means. The Great Melting Pot and all, you know.

TH9...I hear you. Interesting editorial in the WSJ this morning.

Have notbeen there yet, had a busy morning so far.

Well written, though I would put more credence in it if they put their name to it. One more time, I do not have a problem with people who come here and want to become Americans. I have a major problem with those who come here and want to make America into where they came from. Just can’t make it any plainer than that.

Mike, do you subscribe to WSJ or just go to opinionjournal? Don’t know how your finance situation is, WSJ is certainly worth the $100 bucks a year. David Rogers has an excellent piece on this issue in Policy&Politics. My custom homepage lists Op-Ed at the bottom of my to read list.

I used to subscribe to WSJ but I let it go...I used it for investing purposes rather than editorial content but I still get a summary of articles each morning.

I kept getting refered to articles from it and could only get the summaries, not entire piece. So I broke down and subscribed. Now I get the crude oil qoutes for a friend, one of those evil, rich, oil tycoons. He’s an older guy who owns a bunch of oil and gas wells in the area I live, he does not do the computer thing and the WSJ comes to him in the mail 2-3 days delayed so I print out pages for him.

MikeA: To what societies are you referring?  I was specifically dealing with US society, which is the subject of this thread.  You aren’t distracting, are you?

Woof: Like Jesse Jackson’s Push Coalition, La Raza is a political shakedown organization.  So what else is new?  Like a typical leftie, you imply that anyone who gives money to someone else is expressing support.  The problem with that is most of political contribution is shakedown, so you are wrong again.

I was specifically dealing with US society, which is the subject of this thread.  You aren’t distracting, are you?

Not by design but I have noticed an increase in claims of distraction on the threads so perhaps it’s something to keep in mind. As for an example of a society, I was of course thinking of my native Canada...the land of the cultural mosaic and balanced budgets.