Just What The Economy Needs: EPA To Begin Regulating Carbon Emissions Soon

Because nothing says “stimulate the economy” like a massive government bureaucracy regulating a “pollutant” that every sing one of his exhales while we breathe.

The Environmental Protection Agency is expected to act for the first time to regulate carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases that scientists blame for the warming of the planet, according to top Obama administration officials.
The decision, which most likely would play out in stages over a period of months, would have a profound impact on transportation, manufacturing costs and how utilities generate power. It could accelerate the progress of energy and climate change legislation in Congress and form a basis for the United States’ negotiating position at United Nations climate talks set for December in Copenhagen.
The environmental agency is under order from the Supreme Court to make a determination whether carbon dioxide is a pollutant that endangers public health and welfare, an order that the Bush administration essentially ignored despite near-unanimous belief among agency experts that research points inexorably to such a finding.

I know the idea of this “accelerating” the progress of energy legislation, and making the bureaucrats at the UN love us again, is appealing to liberals. But the problem is that compliance costs that come with new, sweeping regulations like this will be essentially a new tax on domestic industry. And one that our domestic businesses can ill afford in this time of recession.
I know that Obama’s “stimulus” wonder bill will supposedly feed the hungry and employ the unemployable and make everything better again, but maybe we shouldn’t tempt fate with heavy new government regulations on top of the burden of massive new government spending programs and bailouts.

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  • Kay

    Not to worry. Obama will wave his magic wand and all will be right with the world. Either that or another miracle stimulus plan.

  • dawneyr

    It is a preconceived lie to defraud the people and transfer power away from what we've known. We wouldn't buy into it without fear mongering tactics (dissent to this propaganda is newly called a "mortal sin" haven't ya heard?), enforced pseudo-science that is made to appear as consensus, and money carrots that are almost tempting enough for even decent businesses to concede.

    Who is on board? What kind of a history do they have? Honest or slimy? Do these same people stand to make a fortune and gain control at the expense of others losing money and control/freedom? All in the name of "rights" and "helping the poor" and saving "Mother Earth." It has nothing to do with rights, except for taking away freedom and hurts the world's poorest. The "Mother Earth" propaganda is a story in itself which is best deciphered by reading and believing the Bible which anyone who has a mind and heart to can read for themselves. We have a city bus here in our little red state town that tells us to ride the bus to save the planet. The kook train has pulled into supposedly red state Smallville in more ways than one.

    According to this kind of mentality, if Obama only "succeeds" in cutting off US-owned and operated business at the knees (aka leveling the international playing field yet CEO and board types have long invested internationally seeing this coming…screw the bulk "little" investors and workers), further reduces the rate of population in the US and in developing nations, and has the EPA implement a carbon tax, then in their eyes, he will have done smashingly well that which he was placed here to do.

    How may stores are McDonalds and Wal-Mart opening overseas this year?

    The most "honorable" endeavor in his preplanned job description would be to further partition the land that God gave to Israel or convince her that it would bring peace to give up more. He and Witch Hillary would probably receive a Nobel award for such mastery of deception. Worked for Gore.

  • http://www.willisms.com/ Zsa Zsa

    I heard the Gov of Mass wants to install chips in everyones car to be able to keep an eye on drivers consumption of gas for Tax reasons. Kinda creepy!

  • dawneyr

    It is creepy, Zsa Zsa.

    The "green" propaganda wouldn't bother me quite so much if people of position, especially those in the UN, weren't bowing so to Saudi Arabia, whose flag is solid green with the following inscription:

    "There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is his Messenger"

  • http://www.valleydeals.com/cgi-bin/board2/YaBB.pl Kevin

    "Green" must be the new "black" as in "the future looks black."<img src='http://i34.tinypic.com/148bhs.jpg'&gt;

  • http://www.willisms.com/ Zsa Zsa

    dawneyr, The Radical Environmentalist's are bowing down to that same flag of Saudi. America really needs American oil to be free of foreign oil dependence. BUT the Enviro Nuts keep getting in the way. I guess it is just a part of Socialism. I think it is important to take care of our world too. I just think there is a way to do both without screaming radical fanatics imposing their radicalism in an effort to stop progress for our country. The oil companies have perfected techniques recently that protect the environment We all accept that oil spills are tragic and preventing those in the future is important. BUT when accidents happen the oil co's are able to clean and restore those areas to sometimes better environmentally than before.

  • http://suitepotato.blogspot.com/ sayanything-4808

    Keep fighting the future ladies and gentlemen. Keep fighting the future.

    If we disappear tomorrow and all we do shuts down, CO2 will continue to increase in the atmosphere as the natural weather cycles of the Earth continue, ice retreats, plant life advances, and decomposition of mulch releases CO2.

    If you think this is entirely about control, you're only partly right. The other seriously important part of all this is a deep seated dubiousness and in some quarters hatred for life itself. Many of these same people would prefer that even if no life of any kind is found to have ever begun on Mars, ever, that we should never terraform it and it should be left untouched by human hands.

    That's right, they don't believe life has any right to overtake a giant dead hunk of rock and use it for life's own purposes. The logical extreme of that is that they do not believe life should ever have arisen here on Earth. Most especially human life.

    Their capacity for hatred of humanity is something often missed, and we need to take into account how much estrangement they have from society in their hearts and minds. As I've said before, they see themselves as a small island of normality and everyone else is an extremist. They do not see commonality with others and do not see themselves as part of society, but above it, knowing more than it and its people.

    As long as that mindset continues to be reinforced subtly but unmistakably within their ranks, we aren't going to be able to make a dent in them with scientific proof. We can show the truth to the people at large but the truth isn't exciting or disturbing. It's plain and uninspiring. The lie that the left offers is exciting and makes them feel like they can make a difference even if they're doing nothing of any value, and even being counterproductive to their own existence.

    The more we try to take the common man away from their audience by showing the truth, the more the left gets frustrated and the more their estrangement strangles their sensibilities, and the more they try to escalate, the more outlandish their claims. Right now they are claiming that despite more than ten years of constant ratcheting down of human CO2 emissions that during that time human CO2 emissions somehow skyrocketed far more than anyone every thought possible.

    Oooh, how exciting. A mystery. All the guardians of the environment somehow were taken unawares and gigantic loads of CO2 were snuck past them and only you can help them stop the evil pollution.

    I guarantee you, given the empowerment angle, that if someone came up with a battery that was fueled with water and released O2 and helium after splitting the H2O and fusing the hydrogen, and could be mass produced as easy as flashlight and car batteries and involved no dangerous compounds, they'd try to ban it and tell us no, no no, we can't have it.

    If you present these people a future with mankind triumphant, ascendant, and prosperous with more energy than ten planets know what to do with, they will come up with a cockamamie reason we can't use it. Why we have to live short lifespans in squalor by comparison.

    Do not underestimate how much they look down on their fellow human beings.

  • bill-tb

    The environmental agency is under order from the Supreme Court

    This is just a lie, coming from the newspoaper whose share price is now less than the Sunday copy price. The Supreme Court did no such thing, nor gave no such order.

    The Supreme Court said that the EPA 'may' regulate CO2, it did not say it 'must' regulate CO2. Read the ruling here, (http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/06slipopinion.html) it's numbered 05-1120 in pdf form. In fact, the Supreme Court said the EPA could defer judgment, do nothing, because the science is complex. The science wizards on the Supreme Court must know how photosynthesis and cellular respiration works, even though very few in the public do.

    So does this mean the EPA must rid the atmosphere of all CO2? Why not? Who determines how much is too much? What the Supreme Court did was declare CO2 a pollutant, which it is not. Carbon life forms would cease to exist on Earth without atmospheric CO2.

    Now we have a Fascists as President, so CO2 must be controlled, because don't you all understand, it's destroying the planet. Which is total complete bunk. CO2 has been as much as 10 times what it is today, and lookey here, the planet is still here, so are humans, the plants and animals as well.

  • http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/ goon

    I am sick and tired of this crap already.

  • http://www.sayanythingblog.com/ electnixon

    This will give the gov't an excuse to "regulate" all activities now since everything can be tied to carbon emissions.

    Everything you do. Everything you own. They are all subject to scrutiny, regulation, and taxation.

  • http://www.ratesupermarket.ca/ S.Katie

    Obama everywhere lately. Hard NOT to know what is happening even if you don't watch nightly news or read the daily papers (online or off). Not that I want to tune it out, per se. I just think there's a lot of hype about it all. A lot of whinging and whining too. Personally I think Obama is a man trying to make a good go of the situation he's been in. How it all turns out, no one can truly speculate over. But they will anyway.

  • bill-tb

    S. Katie, Hitler was a good man just trying … Read the history of the thrid Reich, it's fill of good intentions.

    Obama is a Fascists, it's easy to tell by simply listening to him.

    Here is a short video refresher course about history from a history source… http://www.wimp.com/thegovernment/

  • dawneyr

    Zsa Zsa, I couldn't agree more.

    Suite-potato, the same people on board piggy backing off the hyper-environmentalism momentum are those who support abortion, sterilization, and mandating with law and popularizing with social engineering any population control practice such as those that don't reproduce and rendering illegal any and all opposition falsely in the name of "rights" and "diversity."

    Kevin, Absolutely. They are horribly misusing a group of people to make it look like they are doing something positive for people when population reduction is ultimately a big name of the game.

    All immigrant women between the ages of 11-26 are required to be injected with Merck's drug, Gardasil, mandated by the Department of Homeland Security. A drug that contains aluminum which is known to cause swelling. It's probably a coincidence that swelling and scarring around the fallopian tubes can cause sterilization.

    But I'm probably just a right wing nut conspiracy theorist, dontcha know. The little group of green men and Witch Hillary and Pelosi probably care very, very deeply about women, their reproductive "rights" and the health and "choice" of women in developing countries contrary to UN practices. They probably do care about the "rights" of those who are in same sex relationships that don't reproduce. No mind that other groups are pushed aside and criminalized in the name of "rights." They would never, ever, ever piggy back off all the money that AIDS awareness generates to validate a population control agenda. And they wouldn't even think about inducting gullible (Rick Warren) and not so gullible (Tony Blair) types to appeal to those whose Biblical values are directly being criminalized by their population control efforts. Right?

    I agree, suite-potato. It isn't ALL about money.

  • Kramer

    …here's a nickel, I just farted…

  • http://suitepotato.blogspot.com/ sayanything-4808

    It's probably closer to say it's all about mentality. While most people have an idea of misanthropy as loners who don't mix well socially, people who were picked on and now hate mankind back, those are just the visible examples of misanthropy. If you look at the effects of leftist ideals and the attitude they put them forth with, you can only see an adversarial mindset of them versus everyone else.

    dawneyr is correct. The very same people tend to have influence across multiple areas of oppression against the common man.

    If you wish to correct and limit the behavior of your children, and you love them, you attempt to show them alternative paths that are even better and more fulfilling, reason with them as to why the behavior you are correcting is wrong, and you do not patronize them so much as speak to them the best way you know them to be capable of absorbing based on your experience. Love, positive affinity, they become apparent by how you do it.

    These sorts preach to everyone else constantly, tell them in general terms what horrible people they are, and lambaste them endlessly with accusatory broadsides and generalized changes they need to make which all boil down to "don't worry how, just do whatever I tell you to do and don't question me" answers.

    There's no love, no positive affinity. Just condescension, arrogance, cold loathing. These are not how you'd want to raise your own kids, and not the sort you'd want watching your kids, and for that reason above: there's nothing positive and loving about these people.

    Now, we conservatives look down our noses all the time, but do we have a sense of any love for these people? Yes, because we offer them concrete alternatives to their lunatic ideas and ways. We point out step by step exactly where their ideas and ways fail and destroy THEM. We then ask, if you're going to destroy yourself never mind us, what in the world justifies it? How are you making yourself never mind any one else better off or at least not worse?

    Tough love is still love. I'd rather see all the Dinos and WOOFs and so forth running loose but kept from running things beyond their own self-destructive lives. They'd rather see us under solid fine-grained control at every step of the way. They don't love, they fear, and what humans fear, they hate. We conservatives fear tyranny, an abstraction, so we can hate it because it is an abstraction. Liberals fear their fellow man, and hate their fellow man.

  • docdave

    good and accurate video, bill. No question where we are now in the political apectrum, is there?

  • dawneyr

    Suite-potato, There is no love without honesty. Sometimes love is shown in the absence of positive affinity. Love tells the truth. Happy-go-lucky, feel good lies may make people feel mushy gushy, but often times love requires negative or heard to hear honesty. We don't hear much about that in our PMA society that has a hard time even discerning right from wrong much less having the courage to stand for what's right. The Bible talks about wounds from a friend are better than kisses from an enemy.

  • http://www.rabidamerican.net/ Rabid American

    It's all part of the Neo-Marxist plan to destroy our country.

    Laugh if you must, but pay attention…..

    Wreck the economy, ruin the banking system, ruin Wall street, pit the people against each other, propose reintroduction of the "Fairness Doctrine", redistribution of wealth through HR-1, finish ruining industry through the EPA……

    It's all a wealth grab….. ruin us all to make us "equal"….. equally ruined…..

    Excepting, of course, the uber-smart political Over-lord wannabes that are currently dominating our government…..

    <img src='http://i44.tinypic.com/jtnm0n.jpg'&gt;

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