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		<title>By: caseydk</title>
		<link>http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/judicial_tyranny_in_the_united_states/#comment-265766</link>
		<dc:creator>caseydk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that a woman - as young as 12 in some cases - can make decisions about her body without involvement from anyone else but this boy can&#039;t do the same?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that a woman &#8211; as young as 12 in some cases &#8211; can make decisions about her body without involvement from anyone else but this boy can&#8217;t do the same?</p>
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		<title>By: Democritus</title>
		<link>http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/judicial_tyranny_in_the_united_states/#comment-265767</link>
		<dc:creator>Democritus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>caseydk,

What do you think of Oregon&#039;s &quot;right to die&quot; law?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>caseydk,</p>
<p>What do you think of Oregon&#8217;s &#8220;right to die&#8221; law?</p>
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		<title>By: Pilgrim</title>
		<link>http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/judicial_tyranny_in_the_united_states/#comment-265768</link>
		<dc:creator>Pilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marijuana? Diet? So what? Just what difference does it make to ANYONE outside of that family what course of treatment they decide on for that boy&#039;s illness? 

If they decide that to try a treatment that involves swinging a dead cat around their heads three times under the light of a full moon the ONLY one who should object to that should be the cat. 

Note to the government and any other busy bodies who take it upon themselves to force their medical morals and self righteous intrusions on others: Shutup, back off, and read the Constitution of the United States. Sheesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marijuana? Diet? So what? Just what difference does it make to ANYONE outside of that family what course of treatment they decide on for that boy&#8217;s illness? </p>
<p>If they decide that to try a treatment that involves swinging a dead cat around their heads three times under the light of a full moon the ONLY one who should object to that should be the cat. </p>
<p>Note to the government and any other busy bodies who take it upon themselves to force their medical morals and self righteous intrusions on others: Shutup, back off, and read the Constitution of the United States. Sheesh.</p>
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		<title>By: aNONOMISLY</title>
		<link>http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/judicial_tyranny_in_the_united_states/#comment-265769</link>
		<dc:creator>aNONOMISLY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>marty, are you refering to &lt;a href=&quot;http://sayanythingblog.com/2006/07/25/judicial_tyranny_in_the_united_states/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this blog post&lt;/a&gt;?

if so I don&#039;t get what you are trying to say because Virginia is a very much conservative state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>marty, are you refering to <a href="http://sayanythingblog.com/2006/07/25/judicial_tyranny_in_the_united_states/" rel="nofollow">this blog post</a>?</p>
<p>if so I don&#8217;t get what you are trying to say because Virginia is a very much conservative state.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherard</title>
		<link>http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/judicial_tyranny_in_the_united_states/#comment-265770</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funniest thing is that if this kid out and out wished to die (which he is effectively doing), you guys would be against THAT, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funniest thing is that if this kid out and out wished to die (which he is effectively doing), you guys would be against THAT, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. R.</title>
		<link>http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/judicial_tyranny_in_the_united_states/#comment-265771</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Funniest thing is that if this kid out and out wished to die (which he is effectively doing), you guys would be against THAT, too.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;re wrong. If someone with a terminal condition chooses to die, that&#039;s their business. The only problem I have with such cases is if a two-timing husband says his severly disabled wife would want to die under the circumstances and the state kills her without any documentation or evidence to substantiate that. While she may, indeed, wish to die, there needs to be some proof of that.

If signed paperwork is required to sell a car, signed paperwork (a living will) should also be required when withholding food and water from a disabled person.

As for chemo, do you know anybody who survived chemo, and who didn&#039;t take an immediate turn for the worse once they did? I don&#039;t. I&#039;ve know about a dozen people over the years (family members, friends, and acquaintences), and none survived more than a few short months once they started chemo. Another family member, however, refused it, opting only for surgery, and survived another ten years.

So to state this 16-year-old is &quot;effectively&quot; opting to die because he is refusing the chemo is also a gross misstatement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Funniest thing is that if this kid out and out wished to die (which he is effectively doing), you guys would be against THAT, too.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re wrong. If someone with a terminal condition chooses to die, that&#8217;s their business. The only problem I have with such cases is if a two-timing husband says his severly disabled wife would want to die under the circumstances and the state kills her without any documentation or evidence to substantiate that. While she may, indeed, wish to die, there needs to be some proof of that.</p>
<p>If signed paperwork is required to sell a car, signed paperwork (a living will) should also be required when withholding food and water from a disabled person.</p>
<p>As for chemo, do you know anybody who survived chemo, and who didn&#8217;t take an immediate turn for the worse once they did? I don&#8217;t. I&#8217;ve know about a dozen people over the years (family members, friends, and acquaintences), and none survived more than a few short months once they started chemo. Another family member, however, refused it, opting only for surgery, and survived another ten years.</p>
<p>So to state this 16-year-old is &#8220;effectively&#8221; opting to die because he is refusing the chemo is also a gross misstatement.</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is just another example of the courts looking at &quot;OUR&quot; children as property of the state.

Plucky it isn&#039;t the method of his treatment that I find offensive be it smoking some hooter, screwing a sheep or praying to the moon. It is that the court is forcing their form of acceptable treatment upon him.

Forgive me but I missed the part about life, liberty and the pusuit of our pre-determined health care for your child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is just another example of the courts looking at &#8220;OUR&#8221; children as property of the state.</p>
<p>Plucky it isn&#8217;t the method of his treatment that I find offensive be it smoking some hooter, screwing a sheep or praying to the moon. It is that the court is forcing their form of acceptable treatment upon him.</p>
<p>Forgive me but I missed the part about life, liberty and the pusuit of our pre-determined health care for your child.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Whistler_ofnd</title>
		<link>http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/judicial_tyranny_in_the_united_states/#comment-265773</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Whistler_ofnd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It&#039;s for the Kiiiids&quot;

They can&#039;t force adults to do it, yet.  They create the precedents by using extreme action (kid with an infection that the parents won&#039;t allow treated with 100% safe antibiotics).

After that it becomes the social workers authority to order you around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s for the Kiiiids&#8221;</p>
<p>They can&#8217;t force adults to do it, yet.  They create the precedents by using extreme action (kid with an infection that the parents won&#8217;t allow treated with 100% safe antibiotics).</p>
<p>After that it becomes the social workers authority to order you around.</p>
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		<title>By: Plucky</title>
		<link>http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/judicial_tyranny_in_the_united_states/#comment-265774</link>
		<dc:creator>Plucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What your post goes through great pains to hide is the &quot;alternative treatment&quot; is marijuana. Unlike California, it&#039;s illegal to use it for medical usage. What do you expect the judge to do, authorize the kid to toke up? That would be judicial activism. By the same token, if the kid decided to take the natural cure of... say... sex with wild animals... are we going to condone that too? 

The social worker&#039;s comments show that she&#039;s a bit of a hardcase, but let&#039;s see this for what it is, the judge telling the kid&#039;s parents that they can&#039;t let the kid do illegal things. If you don&#039;t like this being illegal, change the law. It is what it is right now, and the judge has to apply it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What your post goes through great pains to hide is the &#8220;alternative treatment&#8221; is marijuana. Unlike California, it&#8217;s illegal to use it for medical usage. What do you expect the judge to do, authorize the kid to toke up? That would be judicial activism. By the same token, if the kid decided to take the natural cure of&#8230; say&#8230; sex with wild animals&#8230; are we going to condone that too? </p>
<p>The social worker&#8217;s comments show that she&#8217;s a bit of a hardcase, but let&#8217;s see this for what it is, the judge telling the kid&#8217;s parents that they can&#8217;t let the kid do illegal things. If you don&#8217;t like this being illegal, change the law. It is what it is right now, and the judge has to apply it.</p>
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		<title>By: caseydk</title>
		<link>http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/judicial_tyranny_in_the_united_states/#comment-265775</link>
		<dc:creator>caseydk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Funniest thing is that if this kid out and out wished to die (which he is effectively doing), you guys would be against THAT, too.&lt;/em&gt;

Uh, not quite.  If a person has a stated desire to die, they should be able to do so themselves however they want.

The government should not be able to:
a) make medical for someone based on heresay or
b) compel someone to get a procedure against their will *unless* they&#039;ve surrendered their rights to the state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Funniest thing is that if this kid out and out wished to die (which he is effectively doing), you guys would be against THAT, too.</em></p>
<p>Uh, not quite.  If a person has a stated desire to die, they should be able to do so themselves however they want.</p>
<p>The government should not be able to:<br />
a) make medical for someone based on heresay or<br />
b) compel someone to get a procedure against their will *unless* they&#8217;ve surrendered their rights to the state.</p>
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