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Tuesday, November 28, 2006

Judge Rules That Paper Money Is Discriminatory To Blind People

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By keeping all U.S. currency the same size and texture, the government has denied blind people meaningful access to money, a federal judge said Tuesday.

U.S. District Judge James Robertson said the Treasury Department has violated the law, and he ordered the government to come up with ways for the blind to tell bills apart.

He said he wouldn’t tell officials how to fix the problem, but he ordered them to begin working on it within 10 days. The American Council of the Blind has proposed several options, including printing bills of differing sizes, adding embossed dots or foil to the paper or using raised ink.

Can’t wait to find out how much this is going to cost taxpayers.

And no, I’m not being cold hearted.  America’s population is about 300,000,000.  Of that number, there are about 1.3 million people who are legally blind.  Of course, being legally blind doesn’t necessarily mean you cannot see at all (I once knew a guy who was legally blind who drove his own care, though not legally of course) so I don’t know how many of that number are totally blind.  But even if all 1.3 million are they still only represent 0.4% of our entire population.

Does anyone really think it’s a good idea to spend the hundreds of millions (if not billions) of dollars it will take to revamp our currency just to comply with this judge’s ruling in favor of less than one half of one percent of our entire population?

It’d be cheaper just to get all the blind people to use debit cards or something.

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(I once knew a guy who was legally blind who drove his own care, though not legally of course)

Rob,

You knew my grandfather?

HG on November 28, 2006 at 05:02 pm

Electronic devices are available to help blind people differentiate between bills, but many complain that they are slow, expensive and unreliable.

Wah wah wah.  It looks like they can do it themselves, but that’s not good enough for the victimcrats.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on November 28, 2006 at 05:09 pm

I know a woman who is blind, she sorts money for the local VFD bingo and youth dance fund raising group. She needs no one to tell her which bills are which, even worn bills.


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2Hotel9 on November 28, 2006 at 05:23 pm
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including printing bills of differing sizes, adding embossed dots or foil to the paper or using raised ink.

And then blind people who have no fingers will complain and a judge will rule in their favor…

And then blind people who have no finger and speak only spanish will complain and a judge will rule in their favor…

And this will go on until we get fed up with extreme liberalism/leftism/progressivism that divides western civilisation into a million victim groups and victim sub-groups
or
this will end when Islam takes over and people who complain will be imprisonned, beaten or simply hanged.

Judges like that are 99% liberals, and liberalism/leftism/progressivism is destroying western civilization.

Liberals want to accomodate every one, even those who want to kill us all.

Only a liberal/lefty/progressive would deny it.

Like only a drunk would deny he is drunk.

Friend of USA on November 28, 2006 at 06:05 pm

We certainly wouldn’t want to discriminate against anyone, would we?  Does that seem rather pompous of the judge?

Zsa Zsa on November 28, 2006 at 06:33 pm
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Change the currency, the present stuff sucks $50’s look like twenties , bills in general are poor looking,
Need a two hundred and 500 dollar bills.

Above all ,need a new design team. the new state quarters suck,
and this thing Yech.
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Maybe something by JSG BOGGS he draws his own currency and it is worth way more than the value he puts on its face,
That is his face on aSwiss note he created.

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WOOF on November 28, 2006 at 06:51 pm

Change the currency, the present stuff sucks $50’s look like twenties

woofie, here’s the secret.  The guy on the 50’s has a beard.  Don’t tell anyone I told you.


What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on November 28, 2006 at 06:54 pm
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It’d be cheaper just to get all the blind people to use debit cards or something.

That’s the problem though.  They can’t tell if the drive-up ATMs with braille on the key pad are spitting out the right bills when they use their debit cards.

kbiel on November 28, 2006 at 06:58 pm

Make each denomination a different texture. This would be a wonderful additional security enhancement as well as way for the blind to better tell the differences between the bills.

There...problem solved. It’s not like our currency doesn’t change with each new series anyways. It’s getting more colorful, those metallic strips came in about a dozen years ago, the face profiles became bigger and off center about six years ago, small print and symbols are hidden into nooks and crannies, and on and on. A subtly different texture woven into each denomination of our cotton/paper money would be a logical next security enhancement.

likwidshoe on November 28, 2006 at 07:05 pm
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Wouldn’t the point of the debit card be that they would use that instead of cash? We are already on our way to a cashless society as it is. I almost never have any cash on me except for the handful of coins at the bottom of my purse. Things that make you go hmmm, Braille on drive-up ATMs.

Samantha on November 28, 2006 at 07:07 pm

As far as the debit cards - some of us like to go through life relatively anonymous. We don’t like to leave digital money trails on every purchase. I’ll use cash, thank you very much. No need for Mastercard to know everything I buy. They’ll have that information soon enough when we have no choice but to use digital.

Some of us aren’t looking forward to a cashless society where the government can take away purchase rights at whim. Imagine the manipulation available to both criminal and bureaucrat when that day comes! It will be the IRS on steroids. It will be one more brick thrown at this idea called the “free market”.

Hard currency will be ruled illegal and only used for illegal goods. I can hear it now, “only terrorists and drug dealers are opposed to digital”. Don’t forget to add in those who enjoy a bit of privacy and those who look askance at a future of government manipulation and micromanagement of everything. Don’t believe me or think that the concern is overblown? New York City recently banned trans-fats in city restaurants. Now imagine the power of digital currency in the hands of government bureaucrats.

People laughed at me eight years ago when I talked of the coming cashless society. This was before the days of gas cards that tracked every gallon bought and every station visited, grocery store cards that track every pat of butter and turkey bought, even debit cards. I even told people how it would be sold: security, convenience, and speed. This was only eight years ago and look at how far American society has already come to accept the idea of a cashless society.

I’m not saying that I was particularly prescient at this coming future back in 1998, as the changes and the blueprint were already laid out for those who looked for it. What has surprised me is the speed and acceptance at which our society has accepted these changes.

End note: notice that there are literally no anonymous debit cards that I can exchange money for. If someone has a clue into where I can buy one, then point me into that direction. They certainly don’t advertise privacy in addition to these supposed new security and convenience attributes.

*funny...as I was typing up this comment, I reloaded the page on a seperate tab to see if new comments were added. Samantha ties into what I’m talking about.

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As far as the debit cards - some of us like to go through life relatively anonymous.

You’re kidding yourself if you think that’s even possible in today’s society.


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Rob on November 28, 2006 at 07:51 pm
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You need cash to bribe officials,
and officials need cash.
Stuff will be around for awhile.

American troops were not running around Iraq
distributing bags full of debit cards.

WOOF on November 28, 2006 at 08:18 pm

Debit cards are popular because people like to use them; it’s called supply and demand.  I used to use mostly cash at one time in my life, but now I use debit cards almost exclusively.  I don’t worry about someone knowing my purchase records, and I have nothing to hide. Nobody forced me to do this; cash just isn’t as convenient for me, and I made the choice for my own benefit.


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robert108 on November 28, 2006 at 09:34 pm

As far as the “problem” with blind people is concerned, just watch the movie “Ray” for one pretty simple solution.  This is just more “wag the dog” BS from the left.


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I saw another example of discrimination against blind people in the men’s rooms at Chicago O’Hare.

They had some nifty signs in English, Spanish and Braille, about 6-7 feet off the floor, on the wall behind the commode! I suppose, if you knew where to find it, you could read it by leaning over the commode with your hand outstretched. But, looking for arbitrarily placed signs with your fingers in a public restroom looks like a receipe for the disease of the month club!



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Proof on November 28, 2006 at 10:22 pm

Rob said, You’re kidding yourself if you think that’s even possible in today’s society.

Really? I went to the store today and bought a few items using cash. Can you tell me what those items are?

No, you can’t. Not unless you have personally taken a specific interest in me and are tracking me. But if I would have used a debit card and a grocery store card without the fake name I gave them, two more entities would know that much more about me and my buying habits.

The fact that these entities could find out these things if they really wanted to is beside the point of the reality that my purchases today were relatively anonymous.

No kidding.

likwidshoe on November 28, 2006 at 10:32 pm
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Likwid.

The ccamera in the store knows what you bought which I think makes the point.

And dude I need you powers for the lottery numbers tonight can you help me out or will I have to wait eight years for the numbers to work?

richard on November 29, 2006 at 03:25 am

richie, take your lithium. Then sit in a dark, quiet room for awhile and all will be well. Repeat after me, Calm blue ocean, calm blue ocean, calm blue ,,,,,,,,,


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2Hotel9 on November 29, 2006 at 03:32 am

i cant believe they didn’t switch when they redid the bills of late. i guess there were too many money slurping machines out and about that would have to be replaced.


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Sparkie Arbuckle on November 29, 2006 at 03:55 am

Of course, being legally blind doesn’t necessarily mean you cannot see at all

“Legally blind” is the point at which your eyesight is worse than a certain limit.  In fact, it can be correctable with glasses.

Many “legally blind” people drive cars legally.  In fact, there is a device that looks something like a periscope for legally blind people to use for driving.  It magnifies the view ahead so that the person can see the objects better.

This is just another knee-jerk reaction in our society.  We have become such namby-pambys that we can’t be honest with each other any more.  We do this in so many ways.  For example, we tell kids in school that they all need to go to college.  no, no, no, no, no.  Not all kids need to go to college.  Not all kids are equipped to go to college.  Unfortunately, we are too scared to tell them that.  Instead, we set many of them up for failure by convincing them to do something we know that they are not prepared to do.

This ruling does the same thing.  It makes the government bend over backwards to do something for someone where there are other solutions available.


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Steve L. on November 29, 2006 at 04:36 am

We need to get some blind people on here to defend the disability side of this story.

Hey maybe if they’re angry enough, they can spin this around and make it the Bush Administrations fault.

Dan on November 29, 2006 at 06:32 am

Why is a judge making public policy?

Kevin on November 29, 2006 at 10:52 am

Because that is what Democrat judges do?


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2Hotel9 on November 29, 2006 at 01:08 pm

Silly me; I was under the impression judges, judge and legislators, legislate.

Kevin on November 29, 2006 at 06:48 pm

Dan: Welcome to the wonderful world of Roe v Wade; 50 million dead babies and counting; and a constitutional right to abortion on demand without a constitutional amendment.  Great stuff, eh?


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robert108 on November 29, 2006 at 06:52 pm

Did anyone yet mention that Clinton appointed this judge?

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What’s going to happen to US industry when the global warming extremists like John McCain double the price of electricity?  I would think all these factories will close and set up in countries where they aren’t scared of technology.


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The Whistler on November 29, 2006 at 06:52 pm

richard said, The ccamera in the store knows what you bought which I think makes the point.

Of course the store knows what I bought. That’s kind of a given.

The point is that I still made my purchases relatively anonymous. (I emboldened the key word for you, since you seem to be having troubles.)

And dude I need you powers for the lottery numbers tonight can you help me out or will I have to wait eight years for the numbers to work?

It looks like you’re in the wrong forum.

likwidshoe on December 5, 2006 at 07:42 pm
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