Journalism School Has Journalist Arrested For Engaging In Journalism Outside Of Journalism Event

USC’s Annenberg School of Journalism will brook no unauthorized journalism.

Link: Ziegler Arrest


What’s sad is that this will probably inspire little or no outrage among journalists. Because Ziegler isn’t the right kind of journalist.

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  • http://Array NClibertarian

    Socialism is an economic policy. Fascism is a policy of having a leader with absolute power, that uses force to suppress opposition. They can exist together or separate.

    And the Nazi’s were a socialist party. That would be the opposite side of the spectrum of conservatism.

  • dominic

    I can’t believe it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! im so maaaaaaad!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Ah, that one. That was the conversation where you pretended to be a law enforcement officer.

    Of course that was different but I’m not surprised you don’t understand why.

  • RationalGeezer

    Heil Offizier Heckelmann! Heil the return of the ObamaNazi Brown Shirts! Heil Obama!

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Wasn’t that at USC?

    Hardly private property.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Fascism is a policy of having a leader with absolute power, that uses force to suppress opposition.

    That would apply to any dictatorship from communist dictators to thugacracies dictators.

    Do you see why your definition doesn’t work?

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Socialism is an economic policy. Fascism is a policy of having a leader with absolute power, that uses force to suppress opposition. They can exist together or separate.

    No a dictatorship is having a leader with absolute power.

    Fascism is an economic/political system where the state controls economic activities while allowing people to retain “ownership” of property.

    It also has elements of nationalism, whereas communist states were supposed to be all one big happy family. (It didn’t work out that way.)

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    when during the reign of Bush it was shut your moth libtards.

    Hey libtard. I don’t suppose you have any examples that are comparable.

  • carrick

    Man Train, where is the overlap between conservative and nazi ideology?

    I don’t see it.

    If you’re going to spew arrogance, at least get some of it right.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    Why would homosexuals contribute and subscribe to a system that ultimately oppresses and/or murders people who are “different”

    Because they are idiots.

    Same thing went in the other leftist movement in the early 20th century. The Jews in Russia were strong supporters of communism for which all jews paid for for 70 years.

  • CorpulentMeatSack

    It is both funny and sad to read comments which conflate run of the mill, generic assholish police behaviour, which has been SOP for a quite a while now, with the current exective branch policies.

    Oh noes, the brownshirts! Fear the communist. Which is it, guys? Socialism or Fascism? Do you even know the basic definitions of these words?

    So much braying, so little actual content.

    When you read shit like this as satire, it ends up being funny… but the truth is the sad part. People are actually that retarded.

    The people have been assfucked by the political elite continually, Democrat or Republican, for ages. Your petty and shallow world views and manufactured outrage are a monumental joke… on yourselves.

    Keep grabbin’ your ankles, champs!

  • docdave

    This has nothing to do with his freedoms as a “journalist”

    whitey, even you should know that journalists typically and frequently go where they are not invited, and also typically the police do nothing to deter them.

    And oh Obama sucks..

  • diannem

    Ah yes, if it were code pink they would be allowed. Free speech only to those who share the same viewpoint.

  • goldmember

    Hey ashholsh: It’s private property. Get over it. When furer Bush was meandering aimlessly around the country, his thugs arrested hundreds of observers on PUBLIC property just for wanting to stand on a fucking public sidewalk and watch him go by, maybe wave a protest sign or two. you fuckers never stood up to that clear violation of our constitution, so shut the fuck up on this one, K? Universities are private property, that’s why your fuckwad nazi religious groups can’t parade around on them unchecked. Herr Ziegler is a fucking moron; if he had half a brain he’d be dangerous, but as it is, he’s just a fuckwith out to promote his own shit. If you think he’s right, buy his shit movies from him. Otherwise, stay on the fucking PUBLIC sidewalk.

  • bill-tb

    Free speech is fine with socialists, provided you are saying what they want to hear.

  • Man Train

    Move_Zig said, “But behind the scenes, the debauched homosexual leadership was pulling the levers and strings of control.”

    LOL! You are too fucking much! You’re just as bad as any hard core Conservative from Tennessee who blames the Jews for everything (are you this brand of Fundie/Con?). Fucking hilarious!

    Seriously, get a clue…

  • Hannitized

    Ziegler is a moron. This will really advance his career.

    What a dumbass. This is where conservatism is heading.

    How far the party of Reagan has fallen.

  • Whitey

    private property + asked to leave + refusal to leave = trespassing.

    This has nothing to do with his freedoms as a “journalist”

    Oh, and Sarah Palin is a ditz.

  • straightarrow

    In the first place the only difference between fascism and communism is in the ownership and management of the economic engine. In Communism the state owns all the facilities of production and therefore administers those facilities with political appointees. Because the managers seldom know anything at all except sycophancy communism fails miserably from the get go.

    In fascism, a partnership or shared ownership, if you wish, takes place between the management of the facilities of production and the state. Wherein the state leaves management teams in place at the production facilities and reaps the benefits of their expertise in their relative fields. However, just as in communism, all goals and policies are dictated by the state and under the total control of the state. Except, that fascism does work. The trains can run on time, power generation can be done, production levels can be maintained and even improved, because the people who know how to make it happen are left in place to do what they know how, so long as they obey the state.

    For the ordinary man, woman or child, there are no noticeable differences because both rob him/her of their liberty, their autonomy over their own lives and most often even those lives. Nothing gains as much contempt as a groveling subservient to the state,and both systems abuse them greatly.

    Both are socialist systems, the administration of the total power is just done differently.

    You people are supposed to be in college, or graduates of college. I sure couldn’t tell it, from the level of ignorance in your comments.

    You people are supposed to be Americans. I sure couldn’t tell it in some of the comments by people who thought the police acted properly in this case.

    Cowardice and ignorance are not traits I find attractive, but I couldn’t just leave this alone. How weak is the case for USC, the cops, or their supporters when they dare not allow a free(?) citizen to be asked a question absent any threat or misbehavior?

    I sincerely hope most of the commenters here are not wasting assets going to school.

  • http://magyartruth.blogspot.com/ Chief RZ

    Hawk. I stand corrected. I now wonder if any other private institution can arrest any person they disagree with in light of USC’s “free speech” policy.

    Where is Brett Bursey’s “America is a Free Speech Zone” cry?

  • http://sillytroll.com/ Man Train

    Well, we all know that wasn’t possible because y’ll can’t keep your mouths shut whether you have something to say or not.

    Projection.

    The dumbest things I have ever heard came from the mouths Nazis… uh I mean Conservatives.

  • waitingforsnark

    I love how you republicans are now advocates for free speech when during the reign of Bush it was shut your moth libtards.
    Funny how things have flipped like some mirror universe.Can’t wait for you to flip your thoughts back around when a repub is back in office.

  • http://sillytroll.com/ Man Train

    Hey libtard. I don’t suppose you have any examples that are comparable.

    Easy. Lets watch some cops rough up a woman journalist.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYjyvkR0bGQ

    The cops were being gentle with your melodramatic wimp by comparison.

  • docdave

    I love how you republicans are now advocates for free speech when during the reign of Bush it was shut your moth libtards.

    Well, we all know that wasn’t possible because y’ll can’t keep your mouths shut whether you have something to say or not.

  • Joel B.

    USC is a private university, so I would say they have every right to prohibit any kind of activity on their property no matter how arbitrary the reason. However, I do think the handcuffs were unnecessary in this case – Zieglar was obviously not combative. I also believe that even though they have the right to stifle a journalist on their property, this is not very good publicity for the USC School of Journalism, to say the least!

  • http://sillytroll.com/ Man Train

    Example of Dumb shit Conservatives say:

    Nazis were not Conservatives.

    They were Leftist homosexuals.

    Questions:
    1. Why would homosexuals contribute and subscribe to a system that ultimately oppresses and/or murders people who are “different” in favor of a master race (or master culture as with Conservatives)?

    2. Are you so trained by your Right-Wing Authoritarian Leaders that you are unable to identify complete BS if it supports your prejudiced dogma?

    BTW:
    dogma: A doctrinal notion asserted without regard to evidence or truth; an arbitrary dictum.

  • Do What?

    Private property.
    Designated area.
    Authorized media.
    Detained not arrested.

    And Zeiglar thinks this clip supports him?

    It’s private property. They have the right to plan for how many people show up. Without authorizing media representatives, they could get too many unplanned reporters to deal with or they could get too few to make the event worth holding.

    Even so, they designated an area for unauthorized reporters — again, on their private property. They didn’t have to do that, but coming onto their private property he had to follow their rules.

    By the way, what was that petty, self-serving sneering of “I understand what you think the rules are” all about?

    Speaking of self-serving, the only sense in which Zeiglar was arrested was the dictionary definition “to stop.” He wasn’t arrested, and the cops made every effort to keep from actually arresting him despite trying to explain why he needed to move and still having to cuff him and drag him off the sidewalk while he tried to employ passive resistance — also unsuccessfully.

  • Man Train

    Covering your ears and shouting might drown out the truth for you, but does not change the truth.

    Projection.

    You’ve just described every Reich-Wing media outlet in existence. Get a clue.

  • http://magyartruth.blogspot.com/ Chief RZ

    USC. Both the California and the South Carolina logos, are public institutions, supported by taxpayer funds.

    A private institution that does not accept public taxpayer funds would be Hillsdale College in Michigan.

  • docdave

    The cops were being gentle with your melodramatic wimp by comparison.

    Which only proves that cops can be real a-holes at times. Unfortunately they often overreact when challenged so it’s best to be polite and avoid them if you can.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    Nice try, cretin.

    Nazis were not Conservatives.

    They were Leftist homosexuals.

    Ooooooo.

    Betcha that fucks with your worldview.

  • http://sillytroll.com/ Man Train

    Nazis were not Conservatives.

    Conservatism is try #2 for the same goals as Nazis. The only difference between Nazis and Conservatives is that Conservatives realized that genocide does not work (so far). I thank you for that.

    But, Ok… Sure… I’ll patronize you. Conservatives are not Nazis, they only play them on TV (and on radio, in books, newspapers, magazines, blogs etc.)

    You apparently don’t read much of what’s posted by our resident lefties e.g. dino, han, buzz. Anyone is capable of saying stupid things, even you and me.

    I don’t deny that people can say dumb things, but I said that the DUMBEST things I have ever heard came from Conservatives. You you must pay attention to the quantifier in a sentence so you can derive the intended meaning of the speaker/writer.

  • ellinas

    I believe the instance you’re talking about was the Kerry event where the guy was disrupting the event.
    This guy wasn’t disrupting anything.
    I’m not surprised Ellinas is too dense to see the difference.
    The Whistler on April 16, 2009 at 03:27 pm

    No. The one before that. The guy without a library card.
    I’m surprised Whistler forgot that one.

  • Hawk

    USC. Both the California and the South Carolina logos, are public institutions, supported by taxpayer funds.

    Southern California is a private institution.

  • jimmypop

    Wasn’t that at USC?

    Hardly private property.

    thats why they called him a protester, not a guy trying to get a story. i will be interested if the liberal lawyers at the aclu will want to take this one up.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    Incidentally, you should know that the Pink Swastika was a shock to me and a revelation very late in life — yet, it seems to make sense and appears to be thoroughly researched.

    It attacks some of my worldview, since my concept, and indeed, a LOT of people’s concepts of the German soldiers of WWII was that no one could be more hard-edged and straight than the Germans.

    This may yet be true, since the German Army has long held itself separate and distinct from politics. Their duty (Pflicht) as German soldiers was unquestioning obedience, later criticized as Leichegehorsamkeit (Zombie-like obedience)

    The ruling political class knew this and seized upon this quality of the professional German soldier and wielded it as a weapon against them, ultimately making every German soldier swear an oath of obedience to Hitler himself. Hitler became Germany, and disobedience to him became treason against Germany itself.

    I swear by God this sacred oath, that I will render unconditional obedience to Adolf Hitler, the Fuhrer of the German Reich and people, Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, and will be ready as a brave soldier to risk my life at any time for this oath.

    Thus, on the surface, the Germany presented as its face, the face of the unyielding German soldier. But behind the scenes, the debauched homosexual leadership was pulling the levers and strings of control.

    Moreover, their were separate and distinct German military units. The first echelon units were the shock troops (Stosstruppen) and their kind. These were the ones to make first contact with enemy troops and civilians. Their job was to locate and destroy enemy troops and they did so with great precision.

    Somewhere along the fifth echelon or so were the political troops. Gestapo (GeheimesStaatsPolizei) would show up to start political control over the occupied civilians. It is from these units that the German Schrecklichkeit (frightfulness) occurred. The public executions and hangings, arrests and tortures. It is with these troops you would get atrocities, and very likely the homosexuals, since it was a branch of the SchutzStaffel (SS) that were given the mission to guard and administer the KZ Konzentrazionslager (death camps)

    Those who have studied the pathology of homosexuality indicate that homosexual murders tend to torture, even cannibalism of their victims. It makes sense then, that the homosexuals would gravitate to the political troop units.

    Check out the Pink Swastika, you might learn something.

  • http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/homosexuality_is_wrong_-_a_compendium move_zig

    Well Mr. Man-Train (or stinky-line-of-homos-playing-choo-choo)

    Try clicking on the link and reading a passage, any passage, of the Pink Swastika.

    I can afford you the opportunity to broaden your mind and actually learn something, but if you refuse, well that is your business.

    Covering your ears and shouting might drown out the truth for you, but does not change the truth.

    Click, read and learn.

  • http://sillytroll.com/ Man Train

    It looks and sounds to me like he was arrested for public drunkenness (or he’s just a melodramatic wimp).

  • http://www.dartemis.net/blog/ sayanything-42

    Fascism and National Socialism were both outgrowths of the LEFT. Benito Mussolini (who coined the term fascist) was a Socialist. So too was Corporal Schicklegruber.

    It was the Communists who insisted that fascism was a creature of the Right, and that because they refused to acknowledge any ideology to their left.

  • GRShaner

    DoublePlusUngood think.

  • docdave

    The dumbest things I have ever heard came from the mouths Nazis… uh I mean Conservatives

    You apparently don’t read much of what’s posted by our resident lefties e.g. dino, han, buzz. Anyone is capable of saying stupid things, even you and me.

  • http://sillytroll.com/ Man Train

    Betcha that fucks with your worldview.

    It does not. Your pet Reich-Wing meme only further proves to the world that absolute morons (as opposed to partial morons) exist.

  • RationalGeezer

    To CorpulentMeatSack,

    National Socialism was/is facism, fathead.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I guess you could say that’s a journalism free zone.

  • Claude

    Ahh… just wait for Obama’s brown shirts to start policing the streets this way. They’d better wear armor. Ooooh, was that too extremist for gay Dino?

  • CorpulentMeatSack

    To CorpulentMeatSack,

    National Socialism was/is facism, fathead.

    RationalGeezer on April 17, 2009 at 11:27 am

    I forgive you for posting such a mind-numbingly stupid comment because you are old (at least it gave me a chuckle).

    Now grab those ankles, gramps.

  • Hannitized

    What an obnoxious jagazzz.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    I believe the instance you’re talking about was the Kerry event where the guy was dusrupting the event.

    This guy wasn’t disrupting anything.

    I’m not surprised Ellinas is too dense to see the difference.

  • Hannitized

    This type of behavior is representative of Ziegler’s work.

    This demonstrates that he is is obnoxious to the point of trespassing on private property by trying to harass people because he disagrees with their reporting.

    He was disrespectful to the law enforcement officer who was giving him his options to leave peacefully.

    Ziegler had to be confrontational on every issue challenging authority about how they manage their private property.

    What a douche.

  • http://SayAnythingBlog.com The_Whistler_ofnd

    The question is why didn’t they want coverage of the event?

  • ellinas

    Police asked him to move, leave the premises, and the asshole refused. Should have tased him.
    It was not long ago that you guys were cheering when police tased someone in a library for not moving fast enough after orders were given for him to leave.
    He is provoking the police. The guy is an idiot.

  • Uncle Joe

    Yes, how dare that prole assume he has a right to free speech. He exists only to report what the Party tells him to. Anything else is thought crime.

    /sarcasm

  • http://suitepotato.blogspot.com/ sayanything-4808

    I loved how he kept a smile through the whole thing. The look on his face was one of total incredulity and not that of someone who intended to get that reaction. It should be repeated as we draw closer to the midterms as just another example of the left’s intolerance of anything but their own ideas right to the point of shitting on the first amendment.

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